[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Dear Cyn, won't you come out to Play?'

2009-04-13 Thread Duveyoung
"Robert" wrote: 
> Lennon was not perfect, and was born into a very dysfunctional situation. 
> Most people remember him, for his genius.  [snip]
> R.g.

Genius?

Genius?

I remember a Saturday Night Live skit in which Eddie Murphy (who is driving a 
car in the skit) says that "if Stevie Wonder wants to impress me, let's see him 
take this wheel."  Some words like that -- only you know, funnier.

It is absolutely the easiest thing to convince others that one is a genius. 
Take a coin out of a four year old ear, and you're a genius.  Sing a song with 
about six notes that catch someone's fancy, and  you're  a genius.   

Then there's all those geniuses that made lamp shades from human skin, came up 
with the torture devices of the Inquisition, and found a way to legalize all of 
Dick Cheney's actions.

Fuck genius.  Give me heart.

Edg




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Dear Cyn, won't you come out to Play?'

2009-04-13 Thread Kirk
Prudence and her two chilluns were fixtures at MIU in the 80s.

- Original Message - 
From: "Robert" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 1:33 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Dear Cyn, won't you come out to Play?'


"Kirk"   wrote:
> I met Prudence Farrow and she told me the real story.

Yeah, but did you get her phone number?
And if so, could you let me know it?
I always wanted to meet at least one of the Farrows.
Oh, well, guess I'll have to let go of that dream.
R.G.






>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Robert
>   To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 4:58 AM
>   Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'Dear Cyn, won't you come out to Play?'
>
>
>
>
> From Cynthia Lennon's biography...
>
> The Beatles publicly renounced drugs (although never completely) 
> after their initial meetings with the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in London, and 
> took a train to Bangor, in Wales, to meet him again in the summer of 1967. 
> A policeman stopped Cynthia from boarding the train as it was pulling out 
> (not knowing who she was) with Lennon calling out of a window after her, 
> "Tell them to let you on!".[72] She broke down in tears, and later said 
> that it symbolised where she felt their marriage was heading, with Lennon 
> speeding into the future and herself being left behind.[73] Epstein had 
> previously agreed to travel to Bangor to join them after the August Bank 
> Holiday, but died of a drug overdose on 27 August 1967, which was a 
> massive shock to both her and Lennon.[74][75]
> India
> The Beatles were scheduled to fly to India to visit the Maharishi 
> for two or three months, but before that she found letters from Yoko Ono 
> that made it clear that Lennon had had contact with her over a period of 
> time. She had previously met Ono when Ono asked for a lift in Lennon's car 
> after a meeting with the Maharishi in a London suburb.[76] Lennon denied 
> that he was involved with Ono, and said that she was just some "crazy 
> artist" who wanted to be sponsored, although Ono kept up a stream of calls 
> and visits to Kenwood.[77]
> In February 1968, she flew to India with Lennon and the other 
> Beatles and their partners.[78] She had taken pens and paper with her, so 
> was able to draw, meditate with Lennon every day, and for the first time 
> in her life she started to write poetry.[79] "Magic Alex" (Greek-born Alex 
> Mardas who was part of Apple Electronics) was also with them, and smuggled 
> in alcohol from the nearest village as it was not allowed in the ashram. 
> After two weeks Lennon wanted to sleep in a separate room from her, saying 
> that he could only meditate when he was alone.[80] She found out much 
> later that Lennon walked down to the local post office every morning to 
> see if he had received a telegram from Ono, who sent one almost daily.[79]
> Divorce
>
>
> Cynthia and Julian at Kenwood in 1968, after Lennon had left.
> She had suspicions of Lennon's infidelity over the years, and 
> people had told her that he had had numerous affairs as far back as their 
> time together at the art college in Liverpool, but she decided to ignore 
> it, unless there was definite proof.[81]
> After returning to Kenwood from India, Lennon got very drunk on 
> scotch and coke and confessed that there had been other women during his 
> time with her. He detailed every groupie, friends of hers (such as Joan 
> Baez, and Maureen Cleave) and told her about "thousands" of women around 
> the globe.[82] She was totally taken aback at the time and simply replied, 
> "That's OK".[83] Two weeks later, in May 1968, Lennon suggested that she 
> take a holiday in Greece with Mardas, Donovan and two friends. Lennon said 
> that he would be very busy recording The White Album and that it would do 
> her some good to take a break.[83]
> The beginning of the end for the Lennon's marriage came when she 
> arrived back at Kenwood one day early from Greece on 22 May 1968, to 
> discover Lennon and Ono sitting cross-legged on the floor, staring into 
> each others eyes, and then found Ono's slippers outside their bedroom 
> door.[84] She gathered a few things and asked Jenny Boyd and Mardas if she 
> could spend the night at their apartment. At the apartment Boyd went 
> straight to bed, but Mardas got Cynthia drunk and tried to convince her 
> that they should both run away together. After she had been sick in the 
> bathroom she collapsed on a bed in the spare bedroom, but Mardas joined 
> her and tried to kiss her until she pushed him away.[85]
> Lennon see

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Dear Cyn, won't you come out to Play?'

2009-04-12 Thread Robert
 "Kirk"   wrote:
> I met Prudence Farrow and she told me the real story.

Yeah, but did you get her phone number?
And if so, could you let me know it?
I always wanted to meet at least one of the Farrows.
Oh, well, guess I'll have to let go of that dream.
R.G.






>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Robert 
>   To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 4:58 AM
>   Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'Dear Cyn, won't you come out to Play?'
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From Cynthia Lennon's biography...
> 
> The Beatles publicly renounced drugs (although never completely) 
> after their initial meetings with the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in London, and 
> took a train to Bangor, in Wales, to meet him again in the summer of 1967. A 
> policeman stopped Cynthia from boarding the train as it was pulling out (not 
> knowing who she was) with Lennon calling out of a window after her, "Tell 
> them to let you on!".[72] She broke down in tears, and later said that it 
> symbolised where she felt their marriage was heading, with Lennon speeding 
> into the future and herself being left behind.[73] Epstein had previously 
> agreed to travel to Bangor to join them after the August Bank Holiday, but 
> died of a drug overdose on 27 August 1967, which was a massive shock to both 
> her and Lennon.[74][75]
> India
> The Beatles were scheduled to fly to India to visit the Maharishi for 
> two or three months, but before that she found letters from Yoko Ono that 
> made it clear that Lennon had had contact with her over a period of time. She 
> had previously met Ono when Ono asked for a lift in Lennon's car after a 
> meeting with the Maharishi in a London suburb.[76] Lennon denied that he was 
> involved with Ono, and said that she was just some "crazy artist" who wanted 
> to be sponsored, although Ono kept up a stream of calls and visits to 
> Kenwood.[77]
> In February 1968, she flew to India with Lennon and the other Beatles 
> and their partners.[78] She had taken pens and paper with her, so was able to 
> draw, meditate with Lennon every day, and for the first time in her life she 
> started to write poetry.[79] "Magic Alex" (Greek-born Alex Mardas who was 
> part of Apple Electronics) was also with them, and smuggled in alcohol from 
> the nearest village as it was not allowed in the ashram. After two weeks 
> Lennon wanted to sleep in a separate room from her, saying that he could only 
> meditate when he was alone.[80] She found out much later that Lennon walked 
> down to the local post office every morning to see if he had received a 
> telegram from Ono, who sent one almost daily.[79]
> Divorce
>  
> 
> Cynthia and Julian at Kenwood in 1968, after Lennon had left.
> She had suspicions of Lennon's infidelity over the years, and people 
> had told her that he had had numerous affairs as far back as their time 
> together at the art college in Liverpool, but she decided to ignore it, 
> unless there was definite proof.[81]
> After returning to Kenwood from India, Lennon got very drunk on 
> scotch and coke and confessed that there had been other women during his time 
> with her. He detailed every groupie, friends of hers (such as Joan Baez, and 
> Maureen Cleave) and told her about "thousands" of women around the globe.[82] 
> She was totally taken aback at the time and simply replied, "That's OK".[83] 
> Two weeks later, in May 1968, Lennon suggested that she take a holiday in 
> Greece with Mardas, Donovan and two friends. Lennon said that he would be 
> very busy recording The White Album and that it would do her some good to 
> take a break.[83]
> The beginning of the end for the Lennon's marriage came when she 
> arrived back at Kenwood one day early from Greece on 22 May 1968, to discover 
> Lennon and Ono sitting cross-legged on the floor, staring into each others 
> eyes, and then found Ono's slippers outside their bedroom door.[84] She 
> gathered a few things and asked Jenny Boyd and Mardas if she could spend the 
> night at their apartment. At the apartment Boyd went straight to bed, but 
> Mardas got Cynthia drunk and tried to convince her that they should both run 
> away together. After she had been sick in the bathroom she collapsed on a bed 
> in the spare bedroom, but Mardas joined her and tried to kiss her until she 
> pushed him away.[85]
> Lennon seemed absolutely normal when she returned to Kenwood the next 
> day, and maintained his love for her and Julian.[86] Lennon went to New York 
> with McCartney shortly after and told her she could not go with them, so she 
> went on a trip to Italy with her mother.[87] Mardas appeared during the 
> holiday in Italy and broke the news that Lennon was planning to sue her for 
> divorce on grounds of adultery, seek sole custody of Julian, and send Cynthia 
> "back to Hoylake".[88] She said in 2005: "The mere fact that ‘Magic Alex’ 
> [Mardas] arriv

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Dear Cyn, won't you come out to Play?'

2009-04-12 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  
wrote:
>
> Robert wrote:
> > From Cynthia Lennon's biography...
> >
> Well, Robert, a 'biography' is usually written
> in the first person. But by all counts John
> Lennon was not a very nice guy. He was a liar
> and a profligate of the worst kind, and a
> hypocrite. Patti Boyd doesn't have any good 
> things to report about the rascal either.
> (snip)
Well, many biography's are written on many people.
An autobiography is written by the person, on his or hers own life.
This was taken from Wikipedia, so I labeled it as a biography.

Lennon was not perfect, and was born into a very dysfunctional situation.
Most people remember him, for his genius.
Many genius' live on the edge, so this is not so much a surprise.
Perhaps if he had not come into contact with Yoko, things might have been 
better.
Particularly if he had stayed on with Maharishi a bit longer, and not ever 
decided to live in NYC.
It is obvious that Cynthia Lennon loved him then, and still loves him now...
It's a shame he didn't stay on with Cynthia.
But that's just my opinion.
I think Yoko was a 'draining' kind of gal, draining John of energy, and 
confidence.
In case you can't tell, I'm not a big fan of Yoko Ono.
R.g.





[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Dear Cyn, won't you come out to Play?'

2009-04-12 Thread Richard J. Williams
Robert wrote:
> From Cynthia Lennon's biography...
>
Well, Robert, a 'biography' is usually written
in the first person. But by all counts John
Lennon was not a very nice guy. He was a liar
and a profligate of the worst kind, and a
hypocrite. Patti Boyd doesn't have any good 
things to report about the rascal either.

Read more:

'Wonderful Tonight'
by Pattie Boyd
Three Rivers Press, 2008

'The Lives of John Lennon'
by Albert Goldman
Chicago Review Press, 2001