Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unboundedness
--- rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the answer was: yes, I could do that but it would take 10 strong men to hold you down (presumably because the force of the stress release would be so intense). I think this response of MMY's is nonsense. I don't know why he's saying it. I remember hearing it many years ago and within the context of the waking state model of development, it makes sense. But once consciousness awakens to itself to any degree, this assumption that we make (ahhh...think I just found the answer) is wrong. We need to hear MMY's exact words. This is probably guru speak stuff that means something other than what most people hear. -Peter If anyone ever offered something like that to me I would have to decline. __ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unboundedness
On Apr 10, 2005, at 8:06 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote: --- rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the answer was: yes, I could do that but it would take 10 strong men to hold you down (presumably because the force of the stress release would be so intense). I think this response of MMY's is nonsense. He's probably talking about sadyo-mukti -- instant liberation -- which is extraordinarily rare, as opposed to krama-mukti, gradual enlightenment where elements are slowly assimilated into Self over time. One of the reasons sadyo-mukti is deemed so rare is that most individuals would not be capable of handling it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unboundedness
---I think a good example of someone who experienced a drastic change in her experience of unboundedness was Susan Segal.She clearly had alot of difficulties intergrating this state.Kevin In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 10, 2005, at 8:06 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote: --- rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the answer was: yes, I could do that but it would take 10 strong men to hold you down (presumably because the force of the stress release would be so intense). I think this response of MMY's is nonsense. He's probably talking about sadyo-mukti -- instant liberation -- which is extraordinarily rare, as opposed to krama-mukti, gradual enlightenment where elements are slowly assimilated into Self over time. One of the reasons sadyo-mukti is deemed so rare is that most individuals would not be capable of handling it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unboundedness
--- shanti2218411 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---I think a good example of someone who experienced a drastic change in her experience of unboundedness was Susan Segal.She clearly had alot of difficulties intergrating this state.Kevin A sudden drop into the absolute is extremely difficult for the mind. There are long standing mental habits that create suffering. We don't know how attached we are until we disappear and the mind is still working with nobody home. Very uncomfortable, as Susan clearly articulated in her excellent book. -Peter In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 10, 2005, at 8:06 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote: --- rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the answer was: yes, I could do that but it would take 10 strong men to hold you down (presumably because the force of the stress release would be so intense). I think this response of MMY's is nonsense. He's probably talking about sadyo-mukti -- instant liberation -- which is extraordinarily rare, as opposed to krama-mukti, gradual enlightenment where elements are slowly assimilated into Self over time. One of the reasons sadyo-mukti is deemed so rare is that most individuals would not be capable of handling it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unboundedness
And the answer was: yes, I could do that but it would take 10 strong men to hold you down (presumably because the force of the stress release would be so intense).If anyone ever offered something like that to me I would have to decline. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
