[FairfieldLife] Re: please help me make up my mind!
More Barry in Fantasyland: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: If anyone has any lingering doubts that ed11 is really Jim in drag, here's the proof. Remember back when Jim tried to convince us that the Backstreet Boys were great artists He never said they were great artists. He said he'd seen them on TV once and enjoyed them thoroughly, even though their music wasn't his personal preference. No attempt to convince anybody of anything, just expressing his opinion. (The context was the limitations of Barry's musical elitism.) and that Iron Man was the best film of the year and deserving of an Oscar He never said that. He said it was the best of the superhero flicks that he'd seen and that it oughta win some Oscars because it was so well-made (Barry agreed that it was well-made). and that the TV show American Idol was full of immensely talented performers? He never said that. He did mention American Idol once, but only as an example (among several) of how the materialism of American culture negatively influences the rest of the world. (Nothing about the performers at all.) That's the kind of settle-for-the-lowest-common-denominator, uneducated, anti-intellectual and arrogant approach he had to the arts, and to life in general. And now here is ed11, trying to make a case for TM by quoting **Entertainment Weekly** as if it were the Encyclopedia Britannica. :-) She wasn't trying to make a case for TM by quoting Entertainment Weekly, of course. Here's ed11 saying that he'll toss my bag in with Paul and Ringo and Sheryl and Eddie and the others. All that ed11/Jim needs to help him decide any issue like whether TM is appropriate for teaching in US schools is whether aging rock 'n roll stars think it's OK. Not what she said or what she meant. And oh, BTW: I do not admit the possibility that any point of view can be 'right.' What I would acknowledge is that your point of view is just as valid as mine. --Barry Wright, 3/28/09
[FairfieldLife] Re: please help me make up my mind!
If anyone has any lingering doubts that ed11 is really Jim in drag, here's the proof. Remember back when Jim tried to convince us that the Backstreet Boys were great artists and that Iron Man was the best film of the year and deserving of an Oscar and that the TV show American Idol was full of immensely talented performers? That's the kind of settle-for-the-lowest-common-denominator, uneducated, anti-intellectual and arrogant approach he had to the arts, and to life in general. And now here is ed11, trying to make a case for TM by quoting **Entertainment Weekly** as if it were the Encyclopedia Britannica. :-) Here's ed11 saying that he'll toss my bag in with Paul and Ringo and Sheryl and Eddie and the others. All that ed11/Jim needs to help him decide any issue like whether TM is appropriate for teaching in US schools is whether aging rock 'n roll stars think it's OK. Now think back to where this mindset *comes from*. Maharishi first popularized it back in the late Sixties, by hitching his star to the stars. He hitched a ride on the popularity of the Beatles and the Beach Boys and Merv Griffin and Clint Eastwood and many others. And many of us BOUGHT THIS CRAP. Being young and stupid, we actually *believed* that there was some relationship between what some popular-in-the-media person thought and Truth. Jim/ed11 STILL BELIEVES THIS. For him/her, the ONLY thing he needs to help him make up his mind about an issue is how many aging rock stars are lined up on one side of the issue. It's a good thing for him that the Backstreet Boys and the most recent winners of American Idol aren't on the other side of the issue, and against teaching TM in the schools. If that happened, Jim/ed11 wouldn't know WHAT to do. :-) :-) :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: i can't figure out which to pay attention to, the huge upcoming concert for TM on April 4th in the big apple with the biggest names in the music business, or John Knapp and the other TM bashers whining about TM and how unsuccessful snicker the practice and the TM cult is... (hmmm...Knapp even posted a comment at the link below, and uh, no one objected because no one even noticed... poor guy reminds me of those nuts in the cartoons carrying a the end is near sign...) i think i'll toss my bag in with Paul and Ringo and Sheryl and Eddie and the others. now there's a group of rabid TM TBs i can hang with, putting their money where their mouth is! from Entertainment Weekly (http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2009/03/paul-mccartney.html): Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr will be headlining an upcoming benefit show -- and yes, they'll be performing together. The Charity Begins Within concert, benefiting the David Lynch Foundation for Consciousness-Based Education and World Peace, will also include Sheryl Crow, Donovan, Eddie Vedder, Ben Harper, Moby, Paul Horn, Bettye Lavette, and Jim James. The April 4 show marks the first time McCartney and Starr will perform together since 2002, and the first time I've ever really considered spending $80 on a concert ticket. The David Lynch Foundation promotes transcendental meditation in schools. According to the foundation's website, the practice is a simple, natural, effortless, easily learned technique practiced silently for 15 to 20 minutes twice a day, sitting comfortably in a chair with the eyes closed. During the practice, the mind settles down, experiencing finer levels of thought, until it transcends the finest level of thought and experiences the source of thought, pure consciousness -- the unified field -- the source of the unlimited creativity and intelligence expressed in human life and in nature. No word on how it affects ones strange meteorology tweets, but the organization says that transcendental meditation is not a religion or philosophy and does not involve concentration, control of the mind, or change in lifestyle. McCartney and Starr helped popularize transcendental meditation in 1968, when they studied under Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.
[FairfieldLife] Re: please help me make up my mind!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: i can't figure out which to pay attention to, the huge upcoming concert for TM on April 4th in the big apple with the biggest names in the music business, or John Knapp and the other TM bashers whining about TM and how unsuccessful snicker the practice and the TM cult is... (hmmm...Knapp even posted a comment at the link below, and uh, no one objected because no one even noticed...poor guy reminds me of those nuts in the cartoons carrying a the end is near sign...) i think i'll toss my bag in with Paul and Ringo and Sheryl and Eddie and the others. now there's a group of rabid TM TBs i can hang with, putting their money where their mouth is! I'm not a knapp fan but it's revealing that tmers think that this concert means that tm and the tm org are successful. The teaching of tm has been dead for decades. The mov't big recert enlightenment centers plan wasted about $11 million from my reading of the public books. Of course tm either did or didn't work well whether this concert happened or not. The concert should pick up initiations a little for awhile but the infrastructure is gone from decades of culty mismanagement. Anyway -- why is it that the tmo org is so addicted and obsessed with PR events??? Also consider that if lynch and the performers were not active tm promoters then they would be considered negative loser unenlightened smokers and tamasic rock stars by rank and file tmoers.
[FairfieldLife] Re: please help me make up my mind!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: i can't figure out which to pay attention to, the huge upcoming concert for TM on April 4th in the big apple with the biggest names in the music business, or John Knapp and the other TM bashers whining about TM and how unsuccessful snicker the practice and the TM cult is... (hmmm...Knapp even posted a comment at the link below, and uh, no one objected because no one even noticed...poor guy reminds me of those nuts in the cartoons carrying a the end is near sign...) i think i'll toss my bag in with Paul and Ringo and Sheryl and Eddie and the others. now there's a group of rabid TM TBs i can hang with, putting their money where their mouth is! from Entertainment Weekly (http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2009/03/paul-mccartney.html): Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr will be headlining an upcoming benefit show -- and yes, they'll be performing together. The Charity Begins Within concert, benefiting the David Lynch Foundation for Consciousness-Based Education and World Peace, will also include Sheryl Crow, Donovan, Eddie Vedder, Ben Harper, Moby, Paul Horn, Bettye Lavette, and Jim James. The April 4 show marks the first time McCartney and Starr will perform together since 2002, and the first time I've ever really considered spending $80 on a concert ticket. The David Lynch Foundation promotes transcendental meditation in schools. According to the foundation's website, the practice is a simple, natural, effortless, easily learned technique practiced silently for 15 to 20 minutes twice a day, sitting comfortably in a chair with the eyes closed. During the practice, the mind settles down, experiencing finer levels of thought, until it transcends the finest level of thought and experiences the source of thought, pure consciousness -- the unified field -- the source of the unlimited creativity and intelligence expressed in human life and in nature. No word on how it affects ones strange meteorology tweets, but the organization says that transcendental meditation is not a religion or philosophy and does not involve concentration, control of the mind, or change in lifestyle. McCartney and Starr helped popularize transcendental meditation in 1968, when they studied under Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Does that mean you have tickets and will be there ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: please help me make up my mind!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_li...@... wrote: I'm not a knapp fan but it's revealing that tmers think that this concert means that tm and the tm org are successful. That boggles my mind as well. I mean, Jim used the word huge to describe this concert. When was the last time that filling a hall with 6000 people for a rock concert was considered large, much less huge? :-) Add to that the fact that most of the attendees are probably going to be in their Fifties or older (just like most of the performers), and I'm not sure what they are thinking. Personally I think all of this is based on their OWN longing for the good old days of the TM movement, back when people were stupid enough to line up to learn TM just because some rock star or movie star did. Yeah, I know that some people in the world are still that stupid, but it's strange to me that 30-year meditators are still that stupid, while talking incessantly about how TM improves their mental clarity. :-) I'm sure it'll be a fun concert. I hope that the music is neat and that people enjoy themselves. But huge? Can you say self importance? I think you can. The teaching of tm has been dead for decades. The mov't big recert enlightenment centers plan wasted about $11 million from my reading of the public books. Of course tm either did or didn't work well whether this concert happened or not. The concert should pick up initiations a little for awhile but the infrastructure is gone from decades of culty mismanagement. Anyway -- why is it that the tmo org is so addicted and obsessed with PR events??? As I said earlier, replying to the same post, I think it's because no one in the organization is smart enough to think of anything new, and as a result is trying the same approach that Maharishi used back in the Sixties. **He** rose to fame by tying his star to rock stars and movie stars. So a lot of these aging TMers are still under the impression that they can do the same thing. Also consider that if lynch and the performers were not active tm promoters then they would be considered negative loser unenlightened smokers and tamasic rock stars by rank and file tmoers. Tell me about it. Have you seen photos of Paul lately? And most TM prudes and clean livers would cross the street if they saw David Lynch coming down the sidewalk at them smoking a cig and they didn't know who he was. :-) The thing I've been wondering about is how smart David Lynch really is about making sure that all of the money being raised remains under his control and does not go to the TMO *except $600 at a time, every time someone is instructed*. If that is NOT the case, it strikes me that there is a possibility that the TMO is repeating its own proven history and is *using* David Lynch to raise money for a program that it *knows* will never be fully implemented. In other words, I'm wondering if the whole plan is a scam to raise the money and then just KEEP it? I mean, think about it. They have the New Jersey court case in front of them as a legal precedent, so any attempt to teach TM **IN** school systems is likely to find itself in the courts, and very likely lose. Even a scumbag lawyer like Bill Goldstein must realize that. So WHAT IF it's a rerun of the old Let's talk the meditators into donating money to build a TM center, and then when they do, sell it out from under them for a profit scam? WHAT IF the TMO's intention in all of this is to **USE** David Lynch and Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr and Sheryl Crow and the others to raise a bunch of money that is *theoretically* for the purpose of teaching kids to meditate, but is REALLY for purposes of stashing in TMO bank accounts when the whole program goes to the courts and fails? WHAT IF the whole intention all along has been to do to David Lynch and Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr and Sheryl Crow what they've done over and over and over and over again to indi- vidual meditators for decades? This is just a speculation on my part, and may be baseless, but I hope that Lynch was smart enough to have thought of it, too, and thus has set up his organization so that the TMO has no rights whatsoever to any of the money *except for individual instructions*. If that's true (and I hope it is), then even if the school program goes South as a result of court action, he can use the money to sponsor and subsidize TM instruction *outside* the schools, for whoever wants to learn. And, as I've said before, I have no problem with that at all. My main objection to the TM in the schools thing is that it's *in the schools*. I think that's unconstitutional in the U.S.
[FairfieldLife] Re: please help me make up my mind!
just drawing the obvious contrast. besides it is at least a three hour drive for me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: i can't figure out which to pay attention to, the huge upcoming concert for TM on April 4th in the big apple with the biggest names in the music business, or John Knapp and the other TM bashers whining about TM and how unsuccessful snicker the practice and the TM cult is... (hmmm...Knapp even posted a comment at the link below, and uh, no one objected because no one even noticed...poor guy reminds me of those nuts in the cartoons carrying a the end is near sign...) i think i'll toss my bag in with Paul and Ringo and Sheryl and Eddie and the others. now there's a group of rabid TM TBs i can hang with, putting their money where their mouth is! from Entertainment Weekly (http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2009/03/paul-mccartney.html): Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr will be headlining an upcoming benefit show -- and yes, they'll be performing together. The Charity Begins Within concert, benefiting the David Lynch Foundation for Consciousness-Based Education and World Peace, will also include Sheryl Crow, Donovan, Eddie Vedder, Ben Harper, Moby, Paul Horn, Bettye Lavette, and Jim James. The April 4 show marks the first time McCartney and Starr will perform together since 2002, and the first time I've ever really considered spending $80 on a concert ticket. The David Lynch Foundation promotes transcendental meditation in schools. According to the foundation's website, the practice is a simple, natural, effortless, easily learned technique practiced silently for 15 to 20 minutes twice a day, sitting comfortably in a chair with the eyes closed. During the practice, the mind settles down, experiencing finer levels of thought, until it transcends the finest level of thought and experiences the source of thought, pure consciousness -- the unified field -- the source of the unlimited creativity and intelligence expressed in human life and in nature. No word on how it affects ones strange meteorology tweets, but the organization says that transcendental meditation is not a religion or philosophy and does not involve concentration, control of the mind, or change in lifestyle. McCartney and Starr helped popularize transcendental meditation in 1968, when they studied under Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Does that mean you have tickets and will be there ?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: please help me make up my mind!
TMO is about PR because it shapes world opinion and the war of religions and converts is fought as based upon it. - Original Message - From: boo_lives boo_li...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 9:08 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: please help me make up my mind! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: i can't figure out which to pay attention to, the huge upcoming concert for TM on April 4th in the big apple with the biggest names in the music business, or John Knapp and the other TM bashers whining about TM and how unsuccessful snicker the practice and the TM cult is... (hmmm...Knapp even posted a comment at the link below, and uh, no one objected because no one even noticed...poor guy reminds me of those nuts in the cartoons carrying a the end is near sign...) i think i'll toss my bag in with Paul and Ringo and Sheryl and Eddie and the others. now there's a group of rabid TM TBs i can hang with, putting their money where their mouth is! I'm not a knapp fan but it's revealing that tmers think that this concert means that tm and the tm org are successful. The teaching of tm has been dead for decades. The mov't big recert enlightenment centers plan wasted about $11 million from my reading of the public books. Of course tm either did or didn't work well whether this concert happened or not. The concert should pick up initiations a little for awhile but the infrastructure is gone from decades of culty mismanagement. Anyway -- why is it that the tmo org is so addicted and obsessed with PR events??? Also consider that if lynch and the performers were not active tm promoters then they would be considered negative loser unenlightened smokers and tamasic rock stars by rank and file tmoers. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: please help me make up my mind!
Yawn...Sounds like a boring publicity stunt peppered with some great artists, but the mix could be toxic. Take a pass on this or watch it with the fast forward trigger ready if its ever released on dvd. Similar to what Sir Paul himself was thinking in Uncle Albert's song: we're so sorry, but we're so easily called away --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: TMO is about PR because it shapes world opinion and the war of religions and converts is fought as based upon it. - Original Message - From: boo_lives boo_li...@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 9:08 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: please help me make up my mind! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: i can't figure out which to pay attention to, the huge upcoming concert for TM on April 4th in the big apple with the biggest names in the music business, or John Knapp and the other TM bashers whining about TM and how unsuccessful snicker the practice and the TM cult is... (hmmm...Knapp even posted a comment at the link below, and uh, no one objected because no one even noticed...poor guy reminds me of those nuts in the cartoons carrying a the end is near sign...) i think i'll toss my bag in with Paul and Ringo and Sheryl and Eddie and the others. now there's a group of rabid TM TBs i can hang with, putting their money where their mouth is! I'm not a knapp fan but it's revealing that tmers think that this concert means that tm and the tm org are successful. The teaching of tm has been dead for decades. The mov't big recert enlightenment centers plan wasted about $11 million from my reading of the public books. Of course tm either did or didn't work well whether this concert happened or not. The concert should pick up initiations a little for awhile but the infrastructure is gone from decades of culty mismanagement. Anyway -- why is it that the tmo org is so addicted and obsessed with PR events??? Also consider that if lynch and the performers were not active tm promoters then they would be considered negative loser unenlightened smokers and tamasic rock stars by rank and file tmoers. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
