RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Crisis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome
Bound by a conservative TM ideology evidently our conservative tru-believers don’t even believe the implications of the science or else in the policy conversations they would get out of the way of more membership and more meditation in the Domes. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : It is time to start a new document guideline for membership. Keep to the simple and get rid of the old guidelines of what was the Patterson-Morris administrative state of ™. Monitoring people’s lives the way they did it quite obviously was against natural law. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : In this recent crisis of Dome numbers Bevan’s early solution was to charge for the Dome meditation as a reaction. How about first remediating the guidelines, re-articulating what we are about with the Domes and a campaign to increase numbers of people doing program in the Dome before you guys re-introduce fees and that having to come to get stickers, with all that visits to the course office entails of ‘validating’ badges. Do some of this other work first to increase numbers of meditators coming to the Dome and then deal with a fee later. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Rolling out the Dome fees.. Inevitably there will be some drop off when a meditation fee gets re-instituted. Do due- diligence before you roll out Dome fees. Very little leadership had been done under the Patterson-Morris administration with interfacing in the larger meditating community to present the why and the what we are doing with the Domes. Do your leadership work first before you taint everything in the discussion with fees now. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : A better administration of the group meditation is needed right now to increase the membership of people meditating doing the program in the Domes. Right now quite evidently this needs to happen. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This was a terrible state of administrative matters that let things get so bad with the numbers meditating there in the Domes and with the meditating community here. Emergency action needs to happen to make this meditation about expansion, to pull this out of nose dive. This needs some extra-ordinary leadership right now out in front. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Dr. Hagelin is one of the few people who in legality actually ‘owns’ ™ by virtue of being one of a very few Trustees at the top of the corporations that are ™ now This becomes critical for critical mass here. Ask him now to use every ounce of fiduciary responsibility and trust that he has to right this right now by joining a coalition of the other real trustee- scientists who are at the top and dictate a proper policy according to the evidence base of all that is science. It is time to push the faith-based ashram-ites out of the way of meditation program practice and lead past them. Everything is at stake here right now. Jai Guru Dev, ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Only 180 in the Dome meditating the other morning. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : 189 yesterday morning and 208 the evening before in the men's Dome meditating. Women's Dome usually is less than the Men's tally. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The divide asserting “They made promises” to keep people out of the Domes ‘is a made up maya’ about fealty in some conservative TB'er’s minds. The TM tru-believers assert their discipline over others that: “They made promises..” and want a punitive retributive discipline over old meditators using membership at the Dome meditation. A common response In the old meditating movement community.. “..The only promise I made was to go teach people to meditate as I learned to teach meditation from Maharishi and to not let money get in the way of anyone learning to meditate.” ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Surveying: "In the dome they got discouraged. The cohesion was destroyed by endless bar raising to the dome. People were made to feel bad." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : People spoke to different aspects in the meditating community meeting at Phoenix Rising. Some people in the line at the open microphone spoke to the collapse of the Dome numbers in their experience saying things of regret that 2,000 meditating together is way more than 200 to the effect. Those particular policy problems related to the Dome numbers around the guidelines for Dome group meditation membership were not directly taken up or responded to at the Phoenix Rising meeting.
RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Crisis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome
If someone were teaching at another university and wanted to visit and be in the dome, would they be seen as working for a competing organization and be disallowed? Or if they are a doctor, are they seen as competing with Maharishi Ayurveda? As long as MUM enforces these silly rules, it will continue to be shooting itself in the foot. It’s questionable whether there’s any foot left after all these years. Just a bloody stump. Rick Archer Buddha at the Gas Pump https://batgap.com r...@batgap.com<mailto:r...@batgap.com> Podcast<https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/buddha-at-the-gas-pump/id602578156> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 10:44 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Crisis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome People spoke to different aspects in the meditating community meeting at Phoenix Rising. Some people in the line at the open microphone spoke to the collapse of the Dome numbers in their experience saying things of regret that 2,000 meditating together is way more than 200 to the effect. Those particular policy problems related to the Dome numbers around the guidelines for Dome group meditation membership were not directly taken up or responded to at the Phoenix Rising meeting. In the preliminary meetings leading up to the Phoenix Rising meeting it was summarily expressed that the leadership feels for the status quo, that people ‘made promises’ and therefore should not be in the Domes for practicing other competing systems to MVS, and then it was qualified a little in the process of meeting to be more particularly around those who ‘work against’ the movement. Work in process. Also it seems there is a cultural disavowing inside that the ‘guidelines’ for being in the group meditation are neither punitive or disciplinary. This needs a lot more conversation between factions. Leadership have not acknowledged that those being either studied and practiced in any astrology systems has anything to do with how people practice meditation. That whole non-compete clause in the guidelines could stand to just be omitted. Invite those few who it effects freely back in to membership. That would be an important telegraph. There is another preliminary working meeting tomorrow coming up on how to go forward with a communal process. 'Work in progress.' ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <r...@searchsummit.com<mailto:r...@searchsummit.com>> wrote : Were these examples (e.g., people doing their own jyotish) brought up in the Phoenix Rising meeting? Rick Archer Buddha at the Gas Pump https://batgap.com r...@batgap.com<mailto:r...@batgap.com> Podcast<https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/buddha-at-the-gas-pump/id602578156> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:47 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Crisis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome July 2017, no change in the ‘non-compete’ policies for Dome admission/membership. Men’s Dome number was 193 a recent morning and 196 evening. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com<mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com>> wrote : E-mail responding to “Willing people not allowed in the Dome”.. You know one of the very biggest issues now? That when someone is mistreated, they will not put it in an email. The admins and leadership needs emails now, for good reason. Otherwise it won't be believed, they have to have something in hand. It is not just fear of losing badge, it takes strength to deal with things like this, to write that email. I have been told dozens of times, 'No I won't send an email, I'm just going to let it go.' Then what can I do? People have to be strong enough to lead the leaders. Contact John Hagelin directly. At: Global Union of Scientists for Peace 2000 Capital Boulevard Fairfield, IA 52556 secretar...@gusp.org<mailto:secretar...@gusp.org> +1-888-600-GUSP ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com<mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com>> wrote : Those guidelines of the ‘administrative state’ up there on campus and those Rajas who defend them have turned too many capable meditators out from the Domes. In the span of a few days after the communal meeting at Phoenix Rising I spoke separately with two long long time TM movement meditators who were administratively excluded from the Dome meditation for practicing jyotish astrology. Both exclaimed they would be there meditating if the guidelines were changed to omit the ‘non-compete clauses’
RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Crisis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome
People spoke to different aspects in the meditating community meeting at Phoenix Rising. Some people in the line at the open microphone spoke to the collapse of the Dome numbers in their experience saying things of regret that 2,000 meditating together is way more than 200 to the effect. Those particular policy problems related to the Dome numbers around the guidelines for Dome group meditation membership were not directly taken up or responded to at the Phoenix Rising meeting. In the preliminary meetings leading up to the Phoenix Rising meeting it was summarily expressed that the leadership feels for the status quo, that people ‘made promises’ and therefore should not be in the Domes for practicing other competing systems to MVS, and then it was qualified a little in the process of meeting to be more particularly around those who ‘work against’ the movement. Work in process. Also it seems there is a cultural disavowing inside that the ‘guidelines’ for being in the group meditation are neither punitive or disciplinary. This needs a lot more conversation between factions. Leadership have not acknowledged that those being either studied and practiced in any astrology systems has anything to do with how people practice meditation. That whole non-compete clause in the guidelines could stand to just be omitted. Invite those few who it effects freely back in to membership. That would be an important telegraph. There is another preliminary working meeting tomorrow coming up on how to go forward with a communal process. 'Work in progress.' ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <r...@searchsummit.com> wrote : Were these examples (e.g., people doing their own jyotish) brought up in the Phoenix Rising meeting? Rick Archer Buddha at the Gas Pump https://batgap.com https://batgap.com r...@batgap.com mailto:r...@batgap.com Podcast https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/buddha-at-the-gas-pump/id602578156 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:47 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Crisis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome July 2017, no change in the ‘non-compete’ policies for Dome admission/membership. Men’s Dome number was 193 a recent morning and 196 evening. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : E-mail responding to “Willing people not allowed in the Dome”.. You know one of the very biggest issues now? That when someone is mistreated, they will not put it in an email. The admins and leadership needs emails now, for good reason. Otherwise it won't be believed, they have to have something in hand. It is not just fear of losing badge, it takes strength to deal with things like this, to write that email. I have been told dozens of times, 'No I won't send an email, I'm just going to let it go.' Then what can I do? People have to be strong enough to lead the leaders. Contact John Hagelin directly. At: Global Union of Scientists for Peace 2000 Capital Boulevard Fairfield, IA 52556 secretar...@gusp.org mailto:secretar...@gusp.org +1-888-600-GUSP ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : Those guidelines of the ‘administrative state’ up there on campus and those Rajas who defend them have turned too many capable meditators out from the Domes. In the span of a few days after the communal meeting at Phoenix Rising I spoke separately with two long long time TM movement meditators who were administratively excluded from the Dome meditation for practicing jyotish astrology. Both exclaimed they would be there meditating if the guidelines were changed to omit the ‘non-compete clauses’ about people who practice jyotish, those guidelines that have nothing to do with their practice of ™. A couple weeks ago there was a former MIU student back visiting who applying for a Dome badge the course office did an internet search about the person’s life, judged and told this person they would never be allowed in the Dome. Never? We need membership here and these people go out into the world and tell others what, about being excluded? The narrative needs to change now. It is not enough to claim that things have changed when they have not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <r...@searchsummit.com mailto:r...@searchsummit.com> wrote : Maharishi once said that there will come a time when I’ll tell you to meditate on your own, but for now I want you do it in the domes. Rick Archer Buddha at the Gas Pump https://batgap.com https://batgap.com r...@batgap.com mailto:r...@batgap.com Podcast https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcas
RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Crisis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome
Were these examples (e.g., people doing their own jyotish) brought up in the Phoenix Rising meeting? Rick Archer Buddha at the Gas Pump https://batgap.com r...@batgap.com<mailto:r...@batgap.com> Podcast<https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/buddha-at-the-gas-pump/id602578156> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:47 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Crisis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome July 2017, no change in the ‘non-compete’ policies for Dome admission/membership. Men’s Dome number was 193 a recent morning and 196 evening. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com<mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com>> wrote : E-mail responding to “Willing people not allowed in the Dome”.. You know one of the very biggest issues now? That when someone is mistreated, they will not put it in an email. The admins and leadership needs emails now, for good reason. Otherwise it won't be believed, they have to have something in hand. It is not just fear of losing badge, it takes strength to deal with things like this, to write that email. I have been told dozens of times, 'No I won't send an email, I'm just going to let it go.' Then what can I do? People have to be strong enough to lead the leaders. Contact John Hagelin directly. At: Global Union of Scientists for Peace 2000 Capital Boulevard Fairfield, IA 52556 secretar...@gusp.org<mailto:secretar...@gusp.org> +1-888-600-GUSP ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com<mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com>> wrote : Those guidelines of the ‘administrative state’ up there on campus and those Rajas who defend them have turned too many capable meditators out from the Domes. In the span of a few days after the communal meeting at Phoenix Rising I spoke separately with two long long time TM movement meditators who were administratively excluded from the Dome meditation for practicing jyotish astrology. Both exclaimed they would be there meditating if the guidelines were changed to omit the ‘non-compete clauses’ about people who practice jyotish, those guidelines that have nothing to do with their practice of ™. A couple weeks ago there was a former MIU student back visiting who applying for a Dome badge the course office did an internet search about the person’s life, judged and told this person they would never be allowed in the Dome. Never? We need membership here and these people go out into the world and tell others what, about being excluded? The narrative needs to change now. It is not enough to claim that things have changed when they have not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <r...@searchsummit.com<mailto:r...@searchsummit.com>> wrote : Maharishi once said that there will come a time when I’ll tell you to meditate on your own, but for now I want you do it in the domes. Rick Archer Buddha at the Gas Pump https://batgap.com r...@batgap.com<mailto:r...@batgap.com> Podcast<https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/buddha-at-the-gas-pump/id602578156> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 5:03 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield’s Crisis of Me ditating Numbers in the Dome: e-mail: Insist all those in stopatya veda homes and on campus meditating in different places get back to meditating in the domes... May take some presentation by Travis of the science to actually point out the value of proximity. Regenerate the power of numbers and proximity in meditation. Facilitating 11 different program locations and encouraging people to just meditate at home was a formula in specialness and loss of communal cohesion. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com<mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com>> wrote : Meditating attendees at the men’s Dome had a relatively large YOY (year over year) drop this June of 26 fewer men per Program than last year. Attendees at mediation in the women’s Dome had a very very large drop of 79 per Program, yoy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com<mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com>> wrote : The ending of the “grant” program funding. Old meditators cut loose as the ™ movement readies to outsource US Meditation to India. The international ™ movement is announcing it will shift its funding resources away from propping the Dome group meditation in Iowa over to pundi
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield’s Crisis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome:
That could be a solution, but as the number of "Sidhas" practicing in the Domes exceed the number required for coherence in Fairfield, why did that not provide the basis for continued success in Fairfield? If we take Kaplan's letter over a decade ago at face value, it would seem Maharishi did not even really know if this coherence effect would really work, as it seemed to be based on a rather loose association of a statement by Patanjali with a coherence effect in physics. The maximum numbers were in the 1980s and everything has declined, including the state of the world from that point on, whereas if the theory were true, it should have improved, especially in Fairfield, more people would have come into the program and the world would have gotten better. In spite of the movement's confirmation-bias tainted research, Fairfield, the star of the movement, seems to indicate the Maharishi effect does not exist in the form and extent that it is touted to be. The point of meditation is it is an aid to enlightenment. Everything else that has been bundled with it in the movement has been an effort to make it attractive to people who probably would not otherwise meditate for the real reason. It is an appeal to personal success and well-being, which is fine for ego-centric individuals, but enlightenment is to discover that everything is consciousness, and consciousness when unbounded is not personal. Meditating for "World Peace" sounds great, and maybe that idea will make you feel good as an individual, but World Peace has not happened, and seems less likely now than previously. Perhaps the Bhagavad-Gita is correct, that life is an unending battleground and that you need to achieve peace on the basis of your practice, but the battle continues unending, without letup, and you gain peace even amid ceaseless turmoil. From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 10:32 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield’s Crisis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome: The ending of the “grant” program funding. Old meditators cut loose as the ™ movement readies tooutsource US Meditation to India. The international ™ movement is announcing it will shift its funding resources away from propping the Dome group meditation in Iowa over to pundit programs in India. Winding down the “Grant” program.. Financial support for the Invincible America Assembly had been coming in substantial amounts donated monthly by Drs. Howard and Mickey Settle. About two years ago, the International ™ Movement took over most, then all, of the IAA Grant funding, and has now announced it will step down its contributions beginning in September, to 22% of the $90,000/month it has been giving, by this coming November. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : The movement should get out of the business of monitoring people. FW: Myth: People dropped off or were cut from the Grant because there was not enough funds, due to Howard Settle's business situation. Truth: Not one person was dropped from the Grant due to reduction in Settle funds in 2013. Every single person who re-applied went back on the Grant. Julie Anne, who handled the Grant checks, told me this herself. But the 100 person drop overnight, and 350 or more after that reduction, was primarilybecause of dislike or disapproval of the 'monitoring' system, and, the way that Bryan Lee et al conducted the lengthy highly formal meeting to introduce the 'monitoring' system (I had warned him what 'monitoring' would do, and also what that type of meeting would do, but was disregarded). It crippled Movement family and community feeling, what was left of that. The reduction in attendance began ONE YEAR BEFORE the Settle funds were reduced. In August of 2012. Soon as 'monitoring' started, after 17 nearly consecutive higher months, our attendance fell through the floor, and went down 12 consecutive months PRIOR TO the Settle fund reduction (then continued falling for 39 months after that, until 2 months up for October Surprise (then down 3 months in a row since then. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : ‘Fixing’ the grant $ program and its monitoring? That seems like.. 'putting Lipstick on a pig’. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : The Administrative State of monitoring.. The coloring of consciousness with fear by effect of meditation-monitoring in physical observation is antithetical to 'effortless meditation' in creating stress to the innocence of the practice. FW: ..refer to Maharishi's Commentary on the Gita, where he states, inter alia, at VI: 10, "the feeling of someone being around him or watching him may impede the smoothness of the process of transcending." FW