Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM critical site blocked for MUM students
Do you catch them? From what lake? Yes, I catch them. I catch them at Lake Trollingforfishseemstometobe lessfulfillingthantrollingforintelligentgrownupsontheinternet. Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Thu, 6/18/09, WillyTex no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: WillyTex no_re...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM critical site blocked for MUM students To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 8:52 AM fflmod@ wrote: Fish is a favorite of mine and not only provides quality protein but helps kindle digestive fire. Do you catch them? From what lake? To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM critical site blocked for MUM students
On Jun 17, 2009, at 10:04 AM, do.rflex wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: The TM and TMO critical site, TM-Free Blog is being blocked to Maharishi University of Management students as is access to some other forms of spirituality and traditional teachings. I received this response from an MUM student on my question of what was being blocked/filtered: We aren't even sure who or what sets it up. But basically you are blocked from p2p. Porn is of course blocked. Those two should really be it but this website [TM Free Blog] is blocked even, as well as all kinds of stuff that shouldn't be. We'll run into the occasional block on other religious or traditional teachings. Many, many youtube videos are blocked. -Anonymous Maharishi University of Management student That's what they do in places like communist China. It also sounds kinda like Christian fundamentalist authoritarianism and its attendant censorship mania. What's next? ...electronic surveillance, inquisitions and book burnings? I'm certain the library there has always been a censored library, so in effect, they've been burning books for years. One wonders what type of book material would get you kicked off of Invincible America? They expelled Robin Carlsen's students years ago for merely attending his seminars, and many were near graduation. They now use an ID card swipe to monitor your meditation attendance, so the students are already being monitored electronically.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM critical site blocked for MUM students
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:44 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM critical site blocked for MUM students --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Alex Stanley And, downtown Fairfield is a *very* WiFi-rich environment. The Chamber of Commerce and lots of restaurants have open WiFi routers. When my fiber optic line was cut by a backhoe a few years ago, I'd sit in my truck, parked near a cafe or restaurant, and hang out online. With a corpse of a deer in the trunk, no doubt. Deer overpopulation is a problem around here. Their natural predators, the wolves, are long gone. Many of them starve in the winter or get hit by cars, sometimes causing human fatalities. I'm not a fan of hunting for mere sport, but if you're going to eat what you hunt, and accomplish some necessary thinning of the deer population in the process, I don't have a problem with it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM critical site blocked for MUM students
On Jun 17, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Vaj wrote: The TM and TMO critical site, TM-Free Blog is being blocked to Maharishi University of Management students as is access to some other forms of spirituality and traditional teachings. I received this response from an MUM student on my question of what was being blocked/filtered: We aren't even sure who or what sets it up. But basically you are blocked from p2p. Porn is of course blocked. Those two should really be it but this website [TM Free Blog] is blocked even, as well as all kinds of stuff that shouldn't be. We'll run into the occasional block on other religious or traditional teachings. Many, many youtube videos are blocked. -Anonymous Maharishi University of Management student All this will do is drive students to off campus wifi places where they can see the blocked stuff. They can't block all of Fairfield. And, downtown Fairfield is a *very* WiFi-rich environment. The Chamber of Commerce and lots of restaurants have open WiFi routers. When my fiber optic line was cut by a backhoe a few years ago, I'd sit in my truck, parked near a cafe or restaurant, and hang out online. There are actually known ways around the Vedic firewall according to the student for some instances, but it slows their connection down to a crawl. What's disturbing is they'd almost have to be tracking students to know which individual URL's to block. Any way you slice it or dice it, it's odd for an institution of higher learning to be doing this.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM critical site blocked for MUM students
On Jun 17, 2009, at 4:52 PM, Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:44 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM critical site blocked for MUM students --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley And, downtown Fairfield is a *very* WiFi-rich environment. The Chamber of Commerce and lots of restaurants have open WiFi routers. When my fiber optic line was cut by a backhoe a few years ago, I'd sit in my truck, parked near a cafe or restaurant, and hang out online. With a corpse of a deer in the trunk, no doubt. Deer overpopulation is a problem around here. Their natural predators, the wolves, are long gone. Many of them starve in the winter or get hit by cars, sometimes causing human fatalities. I'm not a fan of hunting for mere sport, but if you're going to eat what you hunt, and accomplish some necessary thinning of the deer population in the process, I don't have a problem with it. Wait till the coyotes move in. Hope you don't have any cats or small dogs...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM critical site blocked for MUM students
On Jun 17, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: Wait till the coyotes move in. Hope you don't have any cats or small dogs... We have coyotes out here. But, we also have lots of trees on our property, which is probably why our cats have remained safe. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: We have plenty of coyotes around here, but there's still a deer overpopulation problem. Coyotes get a few percent of baby deer, but they really have very little impact on deer populations. I wonder about that. Years ago I used to fly into a wilderness lake, bordering the Katahdin massif. In Maine we still have state registered guides and master guides and the owner of this camp was a Master Guide. This meant he could not only guide you to the best fishing and hunting spots and clean and dress any animal he might catch, he also had a keen awareness of nature having observed it living in the wild, off the grid for decades with his family. He'd witnessed personally the way coyote packs would chase deer onto the ice of a lake to collectively accomplish a kill. I've also witnessed packs take out the mature deer in my area (along with one of my cats in the fronts yard). Apparently what has happened is the coyotes in this region have inbred with the few remaining wolves. They're unusually large. And, guys who only hunt bucks also do nothing to control the deer population (because one buck can service a huge number of females.) Hunting does is what controls the population. Most deer hunting states won't even give you a buck tag until you've taken a certain number of does, but Iowa doesn't do that. My sole interest in hunting deer is the meat, so I only hunt does (buck meat is much less desirable). One has to wonder if the almost universal desire to kill a buck is a type of oedipal complex. Have you read the book In Defense of Hunting by James A. Swan? He's an expert on sacred space and the sacred aspect of hunting. Show me a real hunter/huntress and I'll show you a man or woman with a very deep appreciation for the interconnectedness of life and reality.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM critical site blocked for MUM students
On Jun 17, 2009, at 5:51 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: Coyotes get a few percent of baby deer, but they really have very little impact on deer populations. And, guys who only hunt bucks also do nothing to control the deer population (because one buck can service a huge number of females.) Hunting does is what controls the population. Most deer hunting states won't even give you a buck tag until you've taken a certain number of does, but Iowa doesn't do that. My sole interest in hunting deer is the meat, so I only hunt does (buck meat is much less desirable). Just don't shoot Bambi's mother, OK? Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM critical site blocked for MUM students
On Jun 17, 2009, at 8:34 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: Some years ago, I witnessed a coyote chasing one of our cats up a tree, right in the back yard. My policy is that on most of our 190 acres, the coyotes can do whatever the hell they want, and if a cat gets caught out there, so be it. But, right around the house, I have a zero tolerance policy for coyotes, and in the past, I've shot a few of them. Our coyotes aren't very big. I feel the same way, although I haven't shot anything, it's New England custom for everyone to have some sort of varmint gun handy when such situations arise. I only have 20 acres, but my neighbor, recently deceased, has 500+ acres. Prime hunting grounds and near a mile of lakefront. And, guys who only hunt bucks also do nothing to control the deer population (because one buck can service a huge number of females.) Hunting does is what controls the population. Most deer hunting states won't even give you a buck tag until you've taken a certain number of does, but Iowa doesn't do that. My sole interest in hunting deer is the meat, so I only hunt does (buck meat is much less desirable). One has to wonder if the almost universal desire to kill a buck is a type of oedipal complex. I let a friend of mine come out here to hunt, and he shot a buck last winter. One reason he likes hunting out here, besides the fact that it is perfect deer ground, is that I have a tractor with a front-end loader. I went out in the tractor to scoop up his buck, and the stench of it nearly made me gag. The fascination with trophy bucks completely escapes me. I'm curious since my own dislike of venison is it's gamey taste (although I do like male deer bologna or sausage). It's common in cow meat to castrate the males used for meat. Could it be the un-castrated male buck meat that I'm reacting to? Is doe meat sweeter and more palatable? Have you read the book In Defense of Hunting by James A. Swan? He's an expert on sacred space and the sacred aspect of hunting. Show me a real hunter/huntress and I'll show you a man or woman with a very deep appreciation for the interconnectedness of life and reality. No, I haven't read it. My perspective is that biologically, humans are omnivores, and that from my own experience, a vegetarian diet is suboptimal for my physiology. What isn't at all a consideration for me are any fear-based religious dogmas. I don't regard diet type as having anything whatsoever to do with spiritual awakening. As Rory remarked this afternoon, the Gita says to be *without* the three gunas. When I trained in Ayurveda--pure Ayurveda, not the Maharishi variety, we were taught how to prescribe various animal meats. It's interesting, the whole vegetarian trip is relatively late in the Hindu mindset. It's largely derived from Jainism and Buddhism, not original Hinduism. From an original Shaivite perspective, it's looked at as a type of deviation from the natural order. I do try to avoid factory farmed meat, so I buy some local, pasture raised lamb, and I took up deer hunting. I still buy organic Smart Chicken at the grocery store, which I'm sure is factory raised on grain, but I'm less fussy about that because chickens naturally eat lots of seeds, so grain-fed chicken doesn't bother me as much as grain-fed grazing animals. If local pastured chicken becomes available, I'll buy it. I'm fortunate in that we have one of the oldest organic co-ops in the US here in Maine and the Maine Organic Farmers and Gardeners Association (MOFGA) is looked at as the standard in these parts. It's common to find organic butcher meat side-by-side with vegetarian deli food.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM critical site blocked for MUM students
Fish is a favorite of mine and not only provides quality protein but helps kindle digestive fire. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/outposts/2009/06/large-alaska-halibut-landed-by-girl-who-wished-it-had-been-a-mermaid-.html Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM critical site blocked for MUM students To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 8:34 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jun 17, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: Coyotes get a few percent of baby deer, but they really have very little impact on deer populations. I wonder about that. Years ago I used to fly into a wilderness lake, bordering the Katahdin massif. In Maine we still have state registered guides and master guides and the owner of this camp was a Master Guide. This meant he could not only guide you to the best fishing and hunting spots and clean and dress any animal he might catch, he also had a keen awareness of nature having observed it living in the wild, off the grid for decades with his family. He'd witnessed personally the way coyote packs would chase deer onto the ice of a lake to collectively accomplish a kill. I've also witnessed packs take out the mature deer in my area (along with one of my cats in the fronts yard). Apparently what has happened is the coyotes in this region have inbred with the few remaining wolves. They're unusually large. Some years ago, I witnessed a coyote chasing one of our cats up a tree, right in the back yard. My policy is that on most of our 190 acres, the coyotes can do whatever the hell they want, and if a cat gets caught out there, so be it. But, right around the house, I have a zero tolerance policy for coyotes, and in the past, I've shot a few of them. Our coyotes aren't very big. And, guys who only hunt bucks also do nothing to control the deer population (because one buck can service a huge number of females.) Hunting does is what controls the population. Most deer hunting states won't even give you a buck tag until you've taken a certain number of does, but Iowa doesn't do that. My sole interest in hunting deer is the meat, so I only hunt does (buck meat is much less desirable). One has to wonder if the almost universal desire to kill a buck is a type of oedipal complex. I let a friend of mine come out here to hunt, and he shot a buck last winter. One reason he likes hunting out here, besides the fact that it is perfect deer ground, is that I have a tractor with a front-end loader. I went out in the tractor to scoop up his buck, and the stench of it nearly made me gag. The fascination with trophy bucks completely escapes me. Have you read the book In Defense of Hunting by James A. Swan? He's an expert on sacred space and the sacred aspect of hunting. Show me a real hunter/huntress and I'll show you a man or woman with a very deep appreciation for the interconnectedness of life and reality. No, I haven't read it. My perspective is that biologically, humans are omnivores, and that from my own experience, a vegetarian diet is suboptimal for my physiology. What isn't at all a consideration for me are any fear-based religious dogmas. I don't regard diet type as having anything whatsoever to do with spiritual awakening. As Rory remarked this afternoon, the Gita says to be *without* the three gunas. I do try to avoid factory farmed meat, so I buy some local, pasture raised lamb, and I took up deer hunting. I still buy organic Smart Chicken at the grocery store, which I'm sure is factory raised on grain, but I'm less fussy about that because chickens naturally eat lots of seeds, so grain-fed chicken doesn't bother me as much as grain-fed grazing animals. If local pastured chicken becomes available, I'll buy it. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
