RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-12 Thread authfriend
How do you know they weren't challenged, but the challenges were overruled? Do 
you ever click the Talk tab at the top of a Wikipedia page to read the 
discussions among the editors?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote:

 There's a highly sceptical account of past-life regression on Wiki. (I wonder 
how some of these Wiki entries aren't challenged by those who beg to differ.) 
The conclusion is: scientific consensus is that the memories are the result of 
cryptomnesia, narratives created by the subconscious mind using imagination, 
forgotten information and suggestions from the therapist.
 

 I have often thought, though, that past-life regression therapy would be a 
shoo-in for a horror-movie plot. The sinister hypno-therapist who comes up with 
a criminal scheme to exploit a victim by persuading him that he had lived a 
particular life in a previous existence . . .  H. Is there an email address 
where people can pitch film ideas to Hollywood producers?
 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_life_regression 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_life_regression

 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 Seraphita, my experience of knowledge of previous lives has nothing to do with 
my accessing it. It comes of its own accord, usually in the context of a 
current day relationship. Each time it has helped me understand the dynamics of 
that relationship.
 

 Knowledge of previous lives is one of the sidhis in Patanjali's Yoga Sutras.

 
 
 On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 3:23 PM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote:
 
   Re: The residual effect was that I taught myself how to conduct my 
conscious mind to see into past lives.:
 

 Look - if you and others could really access past-life information you could 
tell the rest of us stuff that wouldn't otherwise be explicable. The fact that 
you can't demonstrate such knowledge shows that your supposed recollection is 
a construction. I mean, think about it: if you could tell us (say) the true 
identity of Jack the Ripper you would get the Nobel Prize for Physics for 
overturning the current scientific paradigm.
 

 Who is the chap in uniform in the photo? A former incarnation of yours?
 

 There is, by the way, another explanation for past-life memories. If that 
knowledge could be shown to be valid it could indicate a common racial memory 
we all share via our DNA or God-knows-what.
 

 Did you ever come across people who said they were a different sex (gender) in 
a former life?
 

  
  
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote:

 Yep, I actually have a job and have other responsibilities too.
 But I'm with you ... I don't believe in past lives. That's because belief 

 is for those who cannot see directly. 

 

 In the '80's I trained with a group of people in various subtle
 perception techniques. One facet was conducting a reader-observer
 in seeing past-life imprints. The residual effect was that I taught 

 myself how to conduct my conscious mind to see into past lives. 
 

 However, my interest was in learning more about past associations -

 particularly with the small group of 5 people I had spent a lot of time
 with in training. That interest was the result of an intuition that our group 
had significant associations in the most immediate past life - and indeed it 
proved to be so. 
 

 We explored, singly and jointly, until the direct experiences engendered by 
returning to that past life (both exhilarating and terrifying) became 
unbearable to the other members. However, I continued on my own and even 
conducted other people that I knew and perceived were there/then. 
 

 Thus I no longer believe in past lives. Belief is for those who cannot see
 directly or who cannot endure that seeing itself. 
 

 BTW - this is only unusual in a Western context. 
 

 
 

 

 

 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote:

 This thread brought out some interesting comments, thanks.
 

 I see that when I challenged emptybill on his saying: It's a job for 
numberless kalpas - not just one life, and I said, That depends on whether 
you really believe you'll be reincarnated. Do you really believe that? If so, 
on what authority? he never replied. H.
 

 
 
 

 

 

 
 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 







RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-12 Thread emilymaenot
I learned something new also; that's pretty interesting and it is right in 
front of our noses. I just read the Talk on the Mata Amritanandamayi Wiki 
article.  Pretty humorous (just the creepy aspect of my humor showing itself).  
 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 How do you know they weren't challenged, but the challenges were overruled? Do 
you ever click the Talk tab at the top of a Wikipedia page to read the 
discussions among the editors?
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote:

 There's a highly sceptical account of past-life regression on Wiki. (I wonder 
how some of these Wiki entries aren't challenged by those who beg to differ.) 
The conclusion is: scientific consensus is that the memories are the result of 
cryptomnesia, narratives created by the subconscious mind using imagination, 
forgotten information and suggestions from the therapist.
 

 I have often thought, though, that past-life regression therapy would be a 
shoo-in for a horror-movie plot. The sinister hypno-therapist who comes up with 
a criminal scheme to exploit a victim by persuading him that he had lived a 
particular life in a previous existence . . .  H. Is there an email address 
where people can pitch film ideas to Hollywood producers?
 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_life_regression 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_life_regression

 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 Seraphita, my experience of knowledge of previous lives has nothing to do with 
my accessing it. It comes of its own accord, usually in the context of a 
current day relationship. Each time it has helped me understand the dynamics of 
that relationship.
 

 Knowledge of previous lives is one of the sidhis in Patanjali's Yoga Sutras.

 
 
 On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 3:23 PM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote:
 
   Re: The residual effect was that I taught myself how to conduct my 
conscious mind to see into past lives.:
 

 Look - if you and others could really access past-life information you could 
tell the rest of us stuff that wouldn't otherwise be explicable. The fact that 
you can't demonstrate such knowledge shows that your supposed recollection is 
a construction. I mean, think about it: if you could tell us (say) the true 
identity of Jack the Ripper you would get the Nobel Prize for Physics for 
overturning the current scientific paradigm.
 

 Who is the chap in uniform in the photo? A former incarnation of yours?
 

 There is, by the way, another explanation for past-life memories. If that 
knowledge could be shown to be valid it could indicate a common racial memory 
we all share via our DNA or God-knows-what.
 

 Did you ever come across people who said they were a different sex (gender) in 
a former life?
 

  
  
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote:

 Yep, I actually have a job and have other responsibilities too.
 But I'm with you ... I don't believe in past lives. That's because belief 

 is for those who cannot see directly. 

 

 In the '80's I trained with a group of people in various subtle
 perception techniques. One facet was conducting a reader-observer
 in seeing past-life imprints. The residual effect was that I taught 

 myself how to conduct my conscious mind to see into past lives. 
 

 However, my interest was in learning more about past associations -

 particularly with the small group of 5 people I had spent a lot of time
 with in training. That interest was the result of an intuition that our group 
had significant associations in the most immediate past life - and indeed it 
proved to be so. 
 

 We explored, singly and jointly, until the direct experiences engendered by 
returning to that past life (both exhilarating and terrifying) became 
unbearable to the other members. However, I continued on my own and even 
conducted other people that I knew and perceived were there/then. 
 

 Thus I no longer believe in past lives. Belief is for those who cannot see
 directly or who cannot endure that seeing itself. 
 

 BTW - this is only unusual in a Western context. 
 

 
 

 

 

 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote:

 This thread brought out some interesting comments, thanks.
 

 I see that when I challenged emptybill on his saying: It's a job for 
numberless kalpas - not just one life, and I said, That depends on whether 
you really believe you'll be reincarnated. Do you really believe that? If so, 
on what authority? he never replied. H.