Re: [FairfieldLife] A Texas Troll
/Prejudice is a judgment toward people or a person or group based on their place of birth, religion, race, nationality, gender, social class, age, disability, sexuality, language, or other personal characteristics./ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice On 12/3/2014 9:28 PM, noozguru wrote: Texas Troll https://flic.kr/p/q1ecWN image https://flic.kr/p/q1ecWN Texas Troll https://flic.kr/p/q1ecWN A Texas troll sez hello. View on flic.kr https://flic.kr/p/q1ecWN Preview by Yahoo Sound familiar?
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Texas Troll
On 12/3/2014 9:50 PM, TurquoiseBee wrote: */Well done./* /Prejudice is a judgment toward people or a person or group based on their place of birth, religion, race, nationality, gender, social class, age, disability, sexuality, language, or other personal characteristics./ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice *From:* noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, December 4, 2014 4:28 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] A Texas Troll Texas Troll https://flic.kr/p/q1ecWN image https://flic.kr/p/q1ecWN Texas Troll https://flic.kr/p/q1ecWN A Texas troll sez hello. View on flic.kr https://flic.kr/p/q1ecWN Preview by Yahoo Sound familiar?
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Texas Troll
You might want to brush up on your concept reading comprehension. Here is the hint to focus on: Pre You are attempting to subvert this socially loaded buzzword concept into a personal shield for your behavior here by ignoring that any judgement coming your way is post not pre. It is based on your behavior, not where you come from apriori. The issue about prejudice is not that someone is being judged by their actions, it is that they are judged before their actions. That is the key aspect of the concept that gives it meaning and value. What Bhairitu created was a caricature of you for the purpose of satire. By focusing on a single indemnifying characteristic about you, he was able to artistically represent a POV. If he were to do the same thing to me, he might have picked out a guitar or some other iconic blues image that would immediately identify the person with a visual cue. Unless you are so embarrassed about being a Texan, so that anything that identifies you as one, such as a cowboy hat, is a pejorative, there is nothing even judgmental about using a hat as a symbol to identify you in an art piece. What you are attempting to do, by unsubtly shifting the time of when you are being judged from pre to post, is to try to deflect the parody by posturing as a victim. It is bullshit. I am using this as my morning writing prompt because I have been giving some thought to why it is that you had to search 8 years ago for examples of words like boner and ball gag in my writing. Also what went down when Barry created a creative term on the fly and the bullshittery that ensued. I realize that my writing had been shaped by what I call, having to remove the troll handles in my writing. As I read the posts you dug up, I realized that I was a much less careful writer then. I was more apt to feel the creative flow and let images fly off the top of my head as Barry did. I used to post more. Barry said something interesting about that phrase. (Side note. I just realized that Nabbie put that term in a heading as a last grenade, hoping it would cause the group problems with Yahoo. There was no other reason to use it as a heading.) Barry said he chose it for its alliterative properties. He didn't send it through the troll handle editing process I put my writing through before I post. I remember writing more freely here like that. Just letting creative thoughts fly. Now I rarely use any curse word or even image of too risque a nature because I know it is a troll handle that will distract from my meaning. But it also makes my writing a lot less enjoyable for me and less interesting to read for non trolls I'll bet. It is not the words that matter, it is the process that generates them. I edit as I write defensively here. Being careful about posts has its values for me. But it also comes at a creative price. With the defection of some of the worst troll handle grabbers gone, I am looking forward to reevaluating how I post here. I may not have to think about the 15 posts hyperfocusing on some throw away image I created on the fly and distorting my meaning into something that makes me look badly here with no basis in fact from what I wrote. I am looking forward to writing something and NOT getting ad hominem responses trying to shift the discussion of ideas into one of my perceived faults as a person. That anti-intellectual agenda is about dead here, and good riddance! Richard you have a habit of making a big deal about little things in what someone writes while missing and often distorting their point. In this response you attempted to make it look as if Bhairitu was doing something universally condemned, acting on prejudice when in fact he was just judging you by your trollish actions and being creative with it. You reacted to it as a troll does. Hyperfocusing on a distortion of meaning and intent. Maybe you should stop acting like a troll here if you don't want people to judge you as one. I plan to write more in this climate cleansed of some of the worst trolls. I am going to reexamine how I write to see if I am maximizing the creative freedom I feel when everything I post is not followed by two thousand personal attacks. I'd say you are the last of them left Richard. (Buck is in a different category. He can appear trollish but that is not his primary function. His primary function is to promote the image of himself as a victim of something outside himself that he seeks to control.) So like a scurrying roach caught in harsh kitchen light, flicked on at midnight, you are left exposed without being able to choose between running under the fridge or the dishwasher. Every post you make that distorts people's intentions and meaning will get the Raid spray. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 12/3/2014 9:50 PM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Well done. Prejudice is a judgment toward people or a person or group based on their
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Texas Troll
EXCELLENT POST, Curtis. In it you have touched on many things I have felt, but never allowed into conscious thought, or put into words. I'll comment more inline below, but for now allow me to give you a standing ovation for nailing the horrific barrier to creativity Fairfield Life has become for us the last few years. Those who have never been on the receiving end of harassment and stalking by Judy, Richard, Ravi, Robin, Nabby, Jim, and a few others *really don't know what that FEELS LIKE*. The trying to be a creative person trying to have fun in an environment in which you know that almost by definition *anything* you write is going to be attacked and twisted in an attempt to get you is downright painful at times. Like you, I am hopeful about an era in which that doesn't exist as much here on FFL. More below... From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] A Texas Troll You might want to brush up on your concept reading comprehension. Here is the hint to focus on: Pre You are attempting to subvert this socially loaded buzzword concept into a personal shield for your behavior here by ignoring that any judgement coming your way is post not pre. It is based on your behavior, not where you come from apriori. The issue about prejudice is not that someone is being judged by their actions, it is that they are judged before their actions. That is the key aspect of the concept that gives it meaning and value. What Bhairitu created was a caricature of you for the purpose of satire. By focusing on a single indemnifying characteristic about you, he was able to artistically represent a POV. If he were to do the same thing to me, he might have picked out a guitar or some other iconic blues image that would immediately identify the person with a visual cue. Unless you are so embarrassed about being a Texan, so that anything that identifies you as one, such as a cowboy hat, is a pejorative, there is nothing even judgmental about using a hat as a symbol to identify you in an art piece. What you are attempting to do, by unsubtly shifting the time of when you are being judged from pre to post, is to try to deflect the parody by posturing as a victim. As we have seen recently -- and in spades -- this posturing as a victim is a common tactic here on FFL. As you suggest below, I wrote without troll filters a couple of weeks ago, choosing a phrase *primarily* for its alliterative value, without giving sufficient thought to how the trolls might pounce on it. WHEN they pounced, they did so by taking my phrase and using it to pseudo-psychoanalyze me and then, convinced that their troll analysis was correct, *prosecute me in the real world* for being a child molestor. THEN, when I realized that Jim and Nabby weren't going to stop, and that the libel they were spreading could very *much* harm me and my family in the real world, I went real world on their asses myself, and called the Dutch cops. BECAUSE THEY BROKE THE LAW. They then reacted to that by running the victim routine again, pretending that *they* were the ones so oppressed by my choice of phrase that they had no choice but to stalk off the newsgroup in a snit. It is bullshit. It is bullshit. I am using this as my morning writing prompt because I have been giving some thought to why it is that you had to search 8 years ago for examples of words like boner and ball gag in my writing. Also what went down when Barry created a creative term on the fly and the bullshittery that ensued. I realize that my writing had been shaped by what I call, having to remove the troll handles in my writing. As I read the posts you dug up, I realized that I was a much less careful writer then. I was more apt to feel the creative flow and let images fly off the top of my head as Barry did. I used to post more. This is really great stuff, Curtis -- insights about the toll this place has taken on us as writers that I've FELT, but never been able to describe before. Barry said something interesting about that phrase. (Side note. I just realized that Nabbie put that term in a heading as a last grenade, hoping it would cause the group problems with Yahoo. There was no other reason to use it as a heading.) Barry said he chose it for its alliterative properties. He didn't send it through the troll handle editing process I put my writing through before I post. I remember writing more freely here like that. Just letting creative thoughts fly. Now I rarely use any curse word or even image of too risque a nature because I know it is a troll handle that will distract from my meaning. But it also makes my writing a lot less enjoyable for me and less interesting to read for non trolls I'll bet. It is not the words that matter, it is the process that generates them. I edit as I write
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Texas Troll
On 12/4/2014 10:07 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: You might want to brush up on your concept reading comprehension. Here is the hint to focus on: Pre /Can anyone say bat-shit crazy? Get a grip, Curtis, I posted a satire - everything I post to FFL is satire, nothing I say should be taken seriously. Lighten up, and take a chill-pill. You dumb shit. LoL!/ You are attempting to subvert this socially loaded buzzword concept into a personal shield for your behavior here by ignoring that any judgement coming your way is post not pre. It is based on your behavior, not where you come from apriori. The issue about prejudice is not that someone is being judged by their actions, it is that they are judged before their actions. That is the key aspect of the concept that gives it meaning and value. /Non sequitur. / What Bhairitucreated was a caricature of you for the purpose of satire. By focusing on a single indemnifying characteristic about you, he was able to artistically represent a POV. If he were to do the same thing to me, he might have picked out a guitar or some other iconic blues image that would immediately identify the person with a visual cue. Unless you are so embarrassed about being a Texan, so that anything that identifies you as one, such as a cowboy hat, is a pejorative, there is nothing even judgmental about using a hat as a symbol to identify you in an art piece. /Non sequitur. / What you are attempting to do, by unsubtly shifting the time of when you are being judged from pre to post, is to try to deflect the parody by posturing as a victim. /Non sequitur. / It is bullshit. /Non sequitur. / I am using this as my morning writing prompt because I have been giving some thought to why it is that you had to search 8 years ago for examples of words like boner and ball gag in my writing. Also what went down when Barry created a creative term on the fly and the bullshittery that ensued. /Non sequitur. / I realize that my writing had been shaped by what I call, having to remove the troll handles in my writing. As I read the posts you dug up, I realized that I was a much less careful writer then. I was more apt to feel the creative flow and let images fly off the top of my head as Barry did. I used to post more. /Non sequitur. / Barry said something interesting about that phrase. (Side note. I just realized that Nabbie put that term in a heading as a last grenade, hoping it would cause the group problems with Yahoo. There was no other reason to use it as a heading.) Barry said he chose it for its alliterative properties. He didn't send it through the troll handle editing process I put my writing through before I post. I remember writing more freely here like that. Just letting creative thoughts fly. Now I rarely use any curse word or even image of too risque a nature because I know it is a troll handle that will distract from my meaning. But it also makes my writing a lot less enjoyable for me and less interesting to read for non trolls I'll bet. It is not the words that matter, it is the process that generates them. I edit as I write defensively here. /Non sequitur. / Being careful about posts has its values for me. But it also comes at a creative price. With the defection of some of the worst troll handle grabbers gone, I am looking forward to reevaluating how I post here. I may not have to think about the 15 posts hyperfocusing on some throw away image I created on the fly and distorting my meaning into something that makes me look badly here with no basis in fact from what I wrote. I am looking forward to writing something and NOT getting ad hominem responses trying to shift the discussion of ideas into one of my perceived faults as a person. That anti-intellectual agenda is about dead here, and good riddance! /Non sequitur. / Richard you have a habit of making a big deal about little things in what someone writes while missing and often distorting their point. In this response you attempted to make it look as if Bhairitu was doing something universally condemned, acting on prejudice when in fact he was just judging you by your trollish actions and being creative with it. You reacted to it as a troll does. Hyperfocusing on a distortion of meaning and intent. /Non sequitur. / Maybe you should stop acting like a troll here if you don't want people to judge you as one. /Non sequitur. / I plan to write more in this climate cleansed of some of the worst trolls. I am going to reexamine how I write to see if I am maximizing the creative freedom I feel when everything I post is not followed by two thousand personal attacks. I'd say you are the last of them left Richard. (Buck is in a different category. He can appear trollish but that is not his primary function. His primary function is to promote the image of himself as a victim of something outside himself that he seeks to control.) /Non sequitur. / So
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Texas Troll
On 12/4/2014 11:18 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: */EXCELLENT POST, Curtis. In it you have touched on many things I have felt, but never allowed into conscious thought, or put into words. I'll comment more inline below, but for now allow me to give you a standing ovation for nailing the horrific barrier to creativity Fairfield Life has become for us the last few years. /* So, it's all about Richard. */Those who have never been on the receiving end of harassment and stalking by Judy, Richard, Ravi, Robin, Nabby, Jim, and a few others *really don't know what that FEELS LIKE*. The trying to be a creative person trying to have fun in an environment in which you know that almost by definition *anything* you write is going to be attacked and twisted in an attempt to get you is downright painful at times. /* But, can you levitate, Mr. Wright? Can you levitate? */Like you, I am hopeful about an era in which that doesn't exist as much here on FFL. More below.../* But, can you levitate, Mr. Wright? Can you levitate? / I've seen him -- so help me -- move the fucking stars around in the sky, shift whole constellations, draw smiley faces with them. That's a real corker to digest, because you know that physically they weren't moving around, at least in this dimension, or a bunch of astronomers would've had a hissy fit. Yet they moved around. I saw it, and hundreds of other students saw it./ - TurquoiseB http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg12287.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Texas Troll
Well done.
From: noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 4:28 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] A Texas Troll
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