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Mike, I believe that Judas represents the typical position of the Jews back then and today. They can't accept the message of Jesus because it did not follow the prophecies according to the Jewish prophets. IMO, Jesus was actually speaking of Consciousness as the Kingdom of God. Most people could not conceive of this idea back then and even now. For example, during the Last Supper Jesus was actually teaching the apostles an advanced concept when he said to eat his body and blood in the form of bread and wine. Jesus was saying that he is the same eternal Consciousness that makes up the basic elements in nature which constitute the structure of the bread and the wine. So, to eat them is the same as eating his body and blood. The apostles did not know what this meant and just accepted it as faith. Similarly, most Christian churches today do not know this interpretation of the Last Supper. IOW, Jesus was effectively saying that he is the cause and essence of the entire creation. In scientific terms, he is the wave function that created the entire universe. In MMY-speak, he is the Rishi, Devata, and Chandas of the samhita or the unified field. Fascinating? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : John, I've never looked at it that way. That's a different perspective. However, I have never thought of Judas as being the boogie man he has always traditionally been made out to be. He did as Jesus commanded him the night of the Seder. Go do what you must do, Judas followed the instructions of his master. When things didn't turn out like he thought they would, he became tormented and killed himself. That would indicate to me that he questioned his actions and realized he really effed up! Yet I believe in my heart of hearts that Jesus forgave him for his betrayal as he was an instrument of the Divine Plan, just as Joseph's brothers sold Joseph into slavery for thirty pieces of silver. Joseph went into the *pit* but rose up to be the right hand of Pharaoh, forgave his brothers and brought the very brothers that betrayed him into Egypt after forgiving them of their treachery. On Monday, June 30, 2014 10:19 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Mike, The words of Judas also revealed that he did not think Jesus was worth the expensive oils or perfume. IMO, this was a premonition that Judas did not believe Jesus was the messiah. Judas, like most of the Jews back then and now, believe in a worldly messiah who would restore the glorious kingdom of King David on earth. This was why Judas betrayed Jesus for a few pieces of silver. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : A *tad* cynical but maybe something to that. When a woman worshiped Christs feet, pouring very expensive perfume over them, Judas scolded her saying it could have been sold and the money given to the poor Christ said the poor, you will always have with you but I will be here only little while longer Put your resources where they will do the most and strike while the iron is hot. On Monday, June 30, 2014 8:41 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: He said that because he knew if you gave to the poor you wouldn't have it to give to him. From: wayback71@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope: Communists Are Closet Christians I heard MMY say not to give to people asking for money on the streets. I think he said that doing so would connect you karmically to someone you know nothing about. And also that there were organizations that people on the street could go to for food and shelter. I never heard him say anything about donations to charitable organizations or to people not on the street but needing money. He said 6%?
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I heard MMY say not to give to people asking for money on the streets. I think he said that doing so would connect you karmically to someone you know nothing about. And also that there were organizations that people on the street could go to for food and shelter. I never heard him say anything about donations to charitable organizations or to people not on the street but needing money. He said 6%?
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M's comments about giving to beggars was that it increased their dependence on begging and made improving their lives more difficult in the long run. I would also agree that it does tie one karmicly to that person. Who knows if they use that money for good or evil. Instead he recommended giving to a charity, such as a temple, that would feed and cloth people in need. On Monday, June 30, 2014 7:40 AM, waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I heard MMY say not to give to people asking for money on the streets. I think he said that doing so would connect you karmically to someone you know nothing about. And also that there were organizations that people on the street could go to for food and shelter. I never heard him say anything about donations to charitable organizations or to people not on the street but needing money. He said 6%?
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And why exactly should we pay attention to what anyone said who felt that he had THE solution to all of human problems, and yet priced it out of the range of most of the people on the planet? From: waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com I heard MMY say not to give to people asking for money on the streets. I think he said that doing so would connect you karmically to someone you know nothing about. And also that there were organizations that people on the street could go to for food and shelter. I never heard him say anything about donations to charitable organizations or to people not on the street but needing money. He said 6%?
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On 6/30/2014 9:59 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: And why exactly should we pay attention to what anyone said who felt that he had THE solution to all of human problems, and yet priced it out of the range of most of the people on the planet? Poor Barry - it looks like he's having another bad day. Cheer up, Barry! If you need some cash let us know - we have a PayPal account - we could send you a few dollars if you really need it, but please don't spend it on cheap wine and cigarettes. Go figure. When positive expressions were reduced, people produced fewer positive posts and more negative posts; when negative expressions were reduced, the opposite pattern occurred. These results indicate that emotions expressed by others on Facebook influence our own emotions, constituting experimental evidence for massive-scale contagion via social networks. 'Facebook conducted secret psychology experiment on users' emotions' The Telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/facebook/10932534/Facebook-conducted-secret-psychology-experiment-on-users-emotions.html *From:* waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ** I heard MMY say not to give to people asking for money on the streets. I think he said that doing so would connect you karmically to someone you know nothing about. And also that there were organizations that people on the street could go to for food and shelter. I never heard him say anything about donations to charitable organizations or to people not on the street but needing money. He said 6%?
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Because this is a TM oriented group. Whether you believe anything he had to say or not is irrelevant but it was part of his teaching, a part of the package. However, I have to agree with you that it does sound ridicules that he priced it so virtually nobody could afford it. I always thought it was over priced but when it started getting into the hundreds of dollars and then the thousands I figured he just wanted to stop teaching it, perhaps as revenge for all the law suits against him or the teachers he thought stabbed him in the back or that it was a lost cause. Over pricing it would reduce the demand while maintaining the loyalty of those that would actually do the teaching. On Monday, June 30, 2014 7:59 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And why exactly should we pay attention to what anyone said who felt that he had THE solution to all of human problems, and yet priced it out of the range of most of the people on the planet? From: waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com I heard MMY say not to give to people asking for money on the streets. I think he said that doing so would connect you karmically to someone you know nothing about. And also that there were organizations that people on the street could go to for food and shelter. I never heard him say anything about donations to charitable organizations or to people not on the street but needing money. He said 6%?
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Barry, I am not suggesting following his advice - just clarifying what Mike had written. I never heard MMY say anything about donating 6% to charities. Nice article in today's NYTimes front section, Awakening the Dutch Gene of Water Survival. Page A6
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BTW, I think the 6% was mentioned in The Science of Being and Art of Living. Giving 6% of ones income to charity would somehow *purify* any negative karma one incurred from how he earned his income. The same principle as tithing but a little less. On Monday, June 30, 2014 8:23 AM, waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Barry, I am not suggesting following his advice - just clarifying what Mike had written. I never heard MMY say anything about donating 6% to charities. Nice article in today's NYTimes front section, Awakening the Dutch Gene of Water Survival. Page A6
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From: waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Barry, I am not suggesting following his advice - just clarifying what Mike had written. I never heard MMY say anything about donating 6% to charities. I suspect his favorite charity was himself. Nice article in today's NYTimes front section, Awakening the Dutch Gene of Water Survival. Page A6 Yeah, good to see. The country does have a remarkable past history dealing with sea level, but how they manage to deal with it in a global warming future is still to be seen.
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He said that because he knew if you gave to the poor you wouldn't have it to give to him. From: waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope: Communists Are Closet Christians I heard MMY say not to give to people asking for money on the streets. I think he said that doing so would connect you karmically to someone you know nothing about. And also that there were organizations that people on the street could go to for food and shelter. I never heard him say anything about donations to charitable organizations or to people not on the street but needing money. He said 6%?
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It's actually fairly common advice given to people who are planning to travel to India. The reasoning was that for Americans to give what appears to be a pittance drives the division more deeply. And indeed it was suggested to donate to organizations that try to help the poor get back on their feet. Also the Swami for the Vedanta Society in Seattle often told the members there not to donate money if they were having financial problems because they didn't want to need to help them next. These days, be mid-terms in the US, I get all kinds of Democratic Party beggars asking for money. My response is your fearless leader failed us or I would have money to give you. When I encounter charities asking for money in front of the local stores I tell them to find a Republican, they stole all our money. They often laugh at that and agree. Most of these are faith-based and I make it a point to never give to those. Charities are also not bound by the Do Not Call List but most of them will now ask if you want to be on their own do not call list. They're wasting their time anyway if you can't afford to give anything. On 06/30/2014 07:59 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: And why exactly should we pay attention to what anyone said who felt that he had THE solution to all of human problems, and yet priced it out of the range of most of the people on the planet? *From:* waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ** I heard MMY say not to give to people asking for money on the streets. I think he said that doing so would connect you karmically to someone you know nothing about. And also that there were organizations that people on the street could go to for food and shelter. I never heard him say anything about donations to charitable organizations or to people not on the street but needing money. He said 6%?
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A *tad* cynical but maybe something to that. When a woman worshiped Christs feet, pouring very expensive perfume over them, Judas scolded her saying it could have been sold and the money given to the poor Christ said the poor, you will always have with you but I will be here only little while longer Put your resources where they will do the most and strike while the iron is hot. On Monday, June 30, 2014 8:41 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: He said that because he knew if you gave to the poor you wouldn't have it to give to him. From: waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope: Communists Are Closet Christians I heard MMY say not to give to people asking for money on the streets. I think he said that doing so would connect you karmically to someone you know nothing about. And also that there were organizations that people on the street could go to for food and shelter. I never heard him say anything about donations to charitable organizations or to people not on the street but needing money. He said 6%?
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Mike, The words of Judas also revealed that he did not think Jesus was worth the expensive oils or perfume. IMO, this was a premonition that Judas did not believe Jesus was the messiah. Judas, like most of the Jews back then and now, believe in a worldly messiah who would restore the glorious kingdom of King David on earth. This was why Judas betrayed Jesus for a few pieces of silver. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : A *tad* cynical but maybe something to that. When a woman worshiped Christs feet, pouring very expensive perfume over them, Judas scolded her saying it could have been sold and the money given to the poor Christ said the poor, you will always have with you but I will be here only little while longer Put your resources where they will do the most and strike while the iron is hot. On Monday, June 30, 2014 8:41 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: He said that because he knew if you gave to the poor you wouldn't have it to give to him. From: wayback71@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope: Communists Are Closet Christians I heard MMY say not to give to people asking for money on the streets. I think he said that doing so would connect you karmically to someone you know nothing about. And also that there were organizations that people on the street could go to for food and shelter. I never heard him say anything about donations to charitable organizations or to people not on the street but needing money. He said 6%?
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John, I've never looked at it that way. That's a different perspective. However, I have never thought of Judas as being the boogie man he has always traditionally been made out to be. He did as Jesus commanded him the night of the Seder. Go do what you must do, Judas followed the instructions of his master. When things didn't turn out like he thought they would, he became tormented and killed himself. That would indicate to me that he questioned his actions and realized he really effed up! Yet I believe in my heart of hearts that Jesus forgave him for his betrayal as he was an instrument of the Divine Plan, just as Joseph's brothers sold Joseph into slavery for thirty pieces of silver. Joseph went into the *pit* but rose up to be the right hand of Pharaoh, forgave his brothers and brought the very brothers that betrayed him into Egypt after forgiving them of their treachery. On Monday, June 30, 2014 10:19 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Mike, The words of Judas also revealed that he did not think Jesus was worth the expensive oils or perfume. IMO, this was a premonition that Judas did not believe Jesus was the messiah. Judas, like most of the Jews back then and now, believe in a worldly messiah who would restore the glorious kingdom of King David on earth. This was why Judas betrayed Jesus for a few pieces of silver. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : A *tad* cynical but maybe something to that. When a woman worshiped Christs feet, pouring very expensive perfume over them, Judas scolded her saying it could have been sold and the money given to the poor Christ said the poor, you will always have with you but I will be here only little while longer Put your resources where they will do the most and strike while the iron is hot. On Monday, June 30, 2014 8:41 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: He said that because he knew if you gave to the poor you wouldn't have it to give to him. From: wayback71@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope: Communists Are Closet Christians I heard MMY say not to give to people asking for money on the streets. I think he said that doing so would connect you karmically to someone you know nothing about. And also that there were organizations that people on the street could go to for food and shelter. I never heard him say anything about donations to charitable organizations or to people not on the street but needing money. He said 6%?
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On 6/30/2014 10:31 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: BTW, I think the 6% was mentioned in The Science of Being and Art of Living. Giving 6% of ones income to charity would somehow *purify* any negative karma one incurred from how he earned his income. The same principle as tithing but a little less. This shouldn't be difficult to check if anyone has a copy of SBAL. On Monday, June 30, 2014 8:23 AM, waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Barry, I am not suggesting following his advice - just clarifying what Mike had written. I never heard MMY say anything about donating 6% to charities. Nice article in today's NYTimes front section, Awakening the Dutch Gene of Water Survival. Page A6
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On 6/30/2014 10:37 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: He said that because he knew if you gave to the poor you wouldn't have it to give to him. If people had not donated to MUM, MMY wouldn't have had any money to give to you, plus free room and board for two years. Go figure. *From:* waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, June 30, 2014 10:40 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope: Communists Are Closet Christians I heard MMY say not to give to people asking for money on the streets. I think he said that doing so would connect you karmically to someone you know nothing about. And also that there were organizations that people on the street could go to for food and shelter. I never heard him say anything about donations to charitable organizations or to people not on the street but needing money. He said 6%?
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On 6/30/2014 10:52 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: It's actually fairly common advice given to people who are planning to travel to India. The reasoning was that for Americans to give what appears to be a pittance drives the division more deeply. And indeed it was suggested to donate to organizations that try to help the poor get back on their feet. Also the Swami for the Vedanta Society in Seattle often told the members there not to donate money if they were having financial problems because they didn't want to need to help them next. These days, be mid-terms in the US, I get all kinds of Democratic Party beggars asking for money. My response is your fearless leader failed us or I would have money to give you. When I encounter charities asking for money in front of the local stores I tell them to find a Republican, they stole all our money. So, you're going to blame it on others for you not having any money to donate to charity? Go figure. They often laugh at that and agree. Most of these are faith-based and I make it a point to never give to those. Charities are also not bound by the Do Not Call List but most of them will now ask if you want to be on their own do not call list. They're wasting their time anyway if you can't afford to give anything. On 06/30/2014 07:59 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: And why exactly should we pay attention to what anyone said who felt that he had THE solution to all of human problems, and yet priced it out of the range of most of the people on the planet? *From:* waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ** I heard MMY say not to give to people asking for money on the streets. I think he said that doing so would connect you karmically to someone you know nothing about. And also that there were organizations that people on the street could go to for food and shelter. I never heard him say anything about donations to charitable organizations or to people not on the street but needing money. He said 6%?
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On 06/30/2014 11:11 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 6/30/2014 10:52 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: It's actually fairly common advice given to people who are planning to travel to India. The reasoning was that for Americans to give what appears to be a pittance drives the division more deeply. And indeed it was suggested to donate to organizations that try to help the poor get back on their feet. Also the Swami for the Vedanta Society in Seattle often told the members there not to donate money if they were having financial problems because they didn't want to need to help them next. These days, be mid-terms in the US, I get all kinds of Democratic Party beggars asking for money. My response is your fearless leader failed us or I would have money to give you. When I encounter charities asking for money in front of the local stores I tell them to find a Republican, they stole all our money. So, you're going to blame it on others for you not having any money to donate to charity? Go figure. Here's how I figure it. I'm not the only one with a deep background in technology. Folks like me should be in demand. We are not. They want instead cheap inexperienced technology people. So yes, I'll blame the short sighted entrepreneurs. They'll high people who may bring their company down. Around 2000 there was a little movie about a tech company during the dot com boom. It was a dramatization not a documentary. In the movie a senior programmer suggests things that might have saved the company but the entrepreneur just wouldn't listen. They wanted to do it their way and that brought the company down. It's based on a true tale of many of the dot com boom failures. I have enough to get buy. If the Bay Area housing boom extends out here I can probably make a handsome profit selling this house and go retire to a rural area that has good broadband and not a ridiculous cost of living. I don't know why people like you keep saying that we're only to blame when evidence says otherwise. Try taking your blinders off. They often laugh at that and agree. Most of these are faith-based and I make it a point to never give to those. Charities are also not bound by the Do Not Call List but most of them will now ask if you want to be on their own do not call list. They're wasting their time anyway if you can't afford to give anything. On 06/30/2014 07:59 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: And why exactly should we pay attention to what anyone said who felt that he had THE solution to all of human problems, and yet priced it out of the range of most of the people on the planet? *From:* waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ** I heard MMY say not to give to people asking for money on the streets. I think he said that doing so would connect you karmically to someone you know nothing about. And also that there were organizations that people on the street could go to for food and shelter. I never heard him say anything about donations to charitable organizations or to people not on the street but needing money. He said 6%?
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On 6/30/2014 1:21 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 06/30/2014 11:11 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 6/30/2014 10:52 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: It's actually fairly common advice given to people who are planning to travel to India. The reasoning was that for Americans to give what appears to be a pittance drives the division more deeply. And indeed it was suggested to donate to organizations that try to help the poor get back on their feet. Also the Swami for the Vedanta Society in Seattle often told the members there not to donate money if they were having financial problems because they didn't want to need to help them next. These days, be mid-terms in the US, I get all kinds of Democratic Party beggars asking for money. My response is your fearless leader failed us or I would have money to give you. When I encounter charities asking for money in front of the local stores I tell them to find a Republican, they stole all our money. So, you're going to blame it on others for you not having any money to donate to charity? Go figure. Here's how I figure it. I'm not the only one with a deep background in technology. Folks like me should be in demand. We are not. They want instead cheap inexperienced technology people. So yes, I'll blame the short sighted entrepreneurs. They'll high people who may bring their company down. Around 2000 there was a little movie about a tech company during the dot com boom. It was a dramatization not a documentary. In the movie a senior programmer suggests things that might have saved the company but the entrepreneur just wouldn't listen. They wanted to do it their way and that brought the company down. It's based on a true tale of many of the dot com boom failures. I have enough to get buy. If the Bay Area housing boom extends out here I can probably make a handsome profit selling this house and go retire to a rural area that has good broadband and not a ridiculous cost of living. We're looking around every day for a place to live where all the people are already enlightened. I don't know why people like you keep saying that we're only to blame when evidence says otherwise. Try taking your blinders off. All the good dependable paychecks are in the medical field these days. I told my grand-daughter to go into nursing - it's steady work and you can get a job in just about any hospital anywhere in the country. I told her to spend one year and go to LVN school at the local community college. Then, work for a few years, save up some money, and go through the two-year RN school. I told her to get a job at the /Einstein Medical Center in Philly -/ that sounds pretty impressive. They often laugh at that and agree. Most of these are faith-based and I make it a point to never give to those. Charities are also not bound by the Do Not Call List but most of them will now ask if you want to be on their own do not call list. They're wasting their time anyway if you can't afford to give anything. On 06/30/2014 07:59 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: And why exactly should we pay attention to what anyone said who felt that he had THE solution to all of human problems, and yet priced it out of the range of most of the people on the planet? *From:* waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ** I heard MMY say not to give to people asking for money on the streets. I think he said that doing so would connect you karmically to someone you know nothing about. And also that there were organizations that people on the street could go to for food and shelter. I never heard him say anything about donations to charitable organizations or to people not on the street but needing money. He said 6%?
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Kind of amusing.Poverty is the center of the Gospel, helping the poor, the sick and the needy. The poor aren't very helpful at helping the poor, maybe a little moral support but it takes someone with enough to share, to really help the poor. So you take everything Bill Gates has and distribute it to the poor, equally. What you get is a bunch of people getting a free meal and Bill Gates is broke, asking for a free meal the next day. Didn't Maharishi once say something to the effect that poor people are here to help the rich evolve? Maharishi suggested that people give 6% of their income to charity, the Bible suggests 10% and of course anything over and above is icing on the cake. Giving something, to those in need, is key. Demanding something from those that can give is coveting. On Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:49 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: A Sunday morning sermon to ya'll. http://news.yahoo.com/pope-says-communists-closet-christians-142947603.html
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Psst! Mike! Bill Gates is giving money out to help the poor. The government isn't taking it from him. Mark Zuckerberg is donating money to help California schools. The government isn't taking it from him. Stop watching the cartoons on Fox News and look at the real world for a change. On 06/29/2014 09:22 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Kind of amusing.Poverty is the center of the Gospel, helping the poor, the sick and the needy. The poor aren't very helpful at helping the poor, maybe a little moral support but it takes someone with enough to share, to really help the poor. So you take everything Bill Gates has and distribute it to the poor, equally. What you get is a bunch of people getting a free meal and Bill Gates is broke, asking for a free meal the next day. Didn't Maharishi once say something to the effect that poor people are here to help the rich evolve? Maharishi suggested that people give 6% of their income to charity, the Bible suggests 10% and of course anything over and above is icing on the cake. Giving something, to those in need, is key. Demanding something from those that can give is coveting. On Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:49 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: A Sunday morning sermon to ya'll. http://news.yahoo.com/pope-says-communists-closet-christians-142947603.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope: Communists Are Closet Christians
Ahem, communism would take everything Bill Gates has. From each according to his abilities to each according to his needs. Gee dude, why do you think communist Russia and China were so *successful*?But then... they discovered capitalism with minimal taxation. On Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:54 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Psst! Mike! Bill Gates is giving money out to help the poor. The government isn't taking it from him. Mark Zuckerberg is donating money to help California schools. The government isn't taking it from him. Stop watching the cartoons on Fox News and look at the real world for a change. On 06/29/2014 09:22 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Kind of amusing.Poverty is the center of the Gospel, helping the poor, the sick and the needy. The poor aren't very helpful at helping the poor, maybe a little moral support but it takes someone with enough to share, to really help the poor. So you take everything Bill Gates has and distribute it to the poor, equally. What you get is a bunch of people getting a free meal and Bill Gates is broke, asking for a free meal the next day. Didn't Maharishi once say something to the effect that poor people are here to help the rich evolve? Maharishi suggested that people give 6% of their income to charity, the Bible suggests 10% and of course anything over and above is icing on the cake. Giving something, to those in need, is key. Demanding something from those that can give is coveting. On Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:49 AM, mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife] mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: A Sunday morning sermon to ya'll. http://news.yahoo.com/pope-says-communists-closet-christians-142947603.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope: Communists Are Closet Christians
Your understanding of economics and geo politics is seriously lacking but not outside the ordinary that we see from the result of the poor Texas educational system. I've said that the Russian and Chinese implementations of socialism were badly done. They were knee jerk reactions to oppression of the masses that the rich caused in those countries. As the disparity between the rich and the poor increases in the US the same will happen here and destruction of the rich will be well deserved. Some of us will be throwing block parties when it happens. I am frankly tired of these snooty materialist rich punks rolling over the rest of the populist. On 06/29/2014 10:27 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Ahem, communism would take everything Bill Gates has. From each according to his abilities to each according to his needs. Gee dude, why do you think communist Russia and China were so *successful*?But then... they discovered capitalism with minimal taxation. On Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:54 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Psst! Mike! Bill Gates is giving money out to help the poor. The government isn't taking it from him. Mark Zuckerberg is donating money to help California schools. The government isn't taking it from him. Stop watching the cartoons on Fox News and look at the real world for a change. On 06/29/2014 09:22 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Kind of amusing.Poverty is the center of the Gospel, helping the poor, the sick and the needy. The poor aren't very helpful at helping the poor, maybe a little moral support but it takes someone with enough to share, to really help the poor. So you take everything Bill Gates has and distribute it to the poor, equally. What you get is a bunch of people getting a free meal and Bill Gates is broke, asking for a free meal the next day. Didn't Maharishi once say something to the effect that poor people are here to help the rich evolve? Maharishi suggested that people give 6% of their income to charity, the Bible suggests 10% and of course anything over and above is icing on the cake. Giving something, to those in need, is key. Demanding something from those that can give is coveting. On Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:49 AM, mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife] mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: A Sunday morning sermon to ya'll. http://news.yahoo.com/pope-says-communists-closet-christians-142947603.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope: Communists Are Closet Christians
Right, another knee jerk reaction, of which, the consequences will be well deserved. No wealth for anyone. We can all be miserable together. Nothing like a Bolshevik block party! On Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:14 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Your understanding of economics and geo politics is seriously lacking but not outside the ordinary that we see from the result of the poor Texas educational system. I've said that the Russian and Chinese implementations of socialism were badly done. They were knee jerk reactions to oppression of the masses that the rich caused in those countries. As the disparity between the rich and the poor increases in the US the same will happen here and destruction of the rich will be well deserved. Some of us will be throwing block parties when it happens. I am frankly tired of these snooty materialist rich punks rolling over the rest of the populist. On 06/29/2014 10:27 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Ahem, communism would take everything Bill Gates has. From each according to his abilities to each according to his needs. Gee dude, why do you think communist Russia and China were so *successful*?But then... they discovered capitalism with minimal taxation. On Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:54 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Psst! Mike! Bill Gates is giving money out to help the poor. The government isn't taking it from him. Mark Zuckerberg is donating money to help California schools. The government isn't taking it from him. Stop watching the cartoons on Fox News and look at the real world for a change. On 06/29/2014 09:22 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Kind of amusing.Poverty is the center of the Gospel, helping the poor, the sick and the needy. The poor aren't very helpful at helping the poor, maybe a little moral support but it takes someone with enough to share, to really help the poor. So you take everything Bill Gates has and distribute it to the poor, equally. What you get is a bunch of people getting a free meal and Bill Gates is broke, asking for a free meal the next day. Didn't Maharishi once say something to the effect that poor people are here to help the rich evolve? Maharishi suggested that people give 6% of their income to charity, the Bible suggests 10% and of course anything over and above is icing on the cake. Giving something, to those in need, is key. Demanding something from those that can give is coveting. On Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:49 AM, mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife] mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: A Sunday morning sermon to ya'll. http://news.yahoo.com/pope-says-communists-closet-christians-142947603.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope: Communists Are Closet Christians
Ever been to one? My Russian friends threw some good parties. You're missing out if you think all Russians are commies. On 06/29/2014 12:33 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Right, another knee jerk reaction, of which, the consequences will be well deserved. No wealth for anyone. We can all be miserable together. Nothing like a Bolshevik block party! On Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:14 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Your understanding of economics and geo politics is seriously lacking but not outside the ordinary that we see from the result of the poor Texas educational system. I've said that the Russian and Chinese implementations of socialism were badly done. They were knee jerk reactions to oppression of the masses that the rich caused in those countries. As the disparity between the rich and the poor increases in the US the same will happen here and destruction of the rich will be well deserved. Some of us will be throwing block parties when it happens. I am frankly tired of these snooty materialist rich punks rolling over the rest of the populist. On 06/29/2014 10:27 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Ahem, communism would take everything Bill Gates has. From each according to his abilities to each according to his needs. Gee dude, why do you think communist Russia and China were so *successful*?But then... they discovered capitalism with minimal taxation. On Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:54 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Psst! Mike! Bill Gates is giving money out to help the poor. The government isn't taking it from him. Mark Zuckerberg is donating money to help California schools. The government isn't taking it from him. Stop watching the cartoons on Fox News and look at the real world for a change. On 06/29/2014 09:22 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Kind of amusing.Poverty is the center of the Gospel, helping the poor, the sick and the needy. The poor aren't very helpful at helping the poor, maybe a little moral support but it takes someone with enough to share, to really help the poor. So you take everything Bill Gates has and distribute it to the poor, equally. What you get is a bunch of people getting a free meal and Bill Gates is broke, asking for a free meal the next day. Didn't Maharishi once say something to the effect that poor people are here to help the rich evolve? Maharishi suggested that people give 6% of their income to charity, the Bible suggests 10% and of course anything over and above is icing on the cake. Giving something, to those in need, is key. Demanding something from those that can give is coveting. On Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:49 AM, mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife] mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: A Sunday morning sermon to ya'll. http://news.yahoo.com/pope-says-communists-closet-christians-142947603.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope: Communists Are Closet Christians
Mike, There's nothing wrong with giving something as charity from your own pocket. In jyotish, it's a remedy to help a person mitigate the bad karma that he or she is experiencing in this life time. If you think about, there is a practical reason why this works. However, as MMY has mentioned in one of his lectures, there are some people who consciously or unconsciously want to be poor, especially in developed countries like the USA. If one works for a living, there shouldn't be any reason why one has to live in poverty. But unfortunately poverty happens more commonly in third world countries. Is it due to their national karma or is it their government's fault? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Kind of amusing.Poverty is the center of the Gospel, helping the poor, the sick and the needy. The poor aren't very helpful at helping the poor, maybe a little moral support but it takes someone with enough to share, to really help the poor. So you take everything Bill Gates has and distribute it to the poor, equally. What you get is a bunch of people getting a free meal and Bill Gates is broke, asking for a free meal the next day. Didn't Maharishi once say something to the effect that poor people are here to help the rich evolve? Maharishi suggested that people give 6% of their income to charity, the Bible suggests 10% and of course anything over and above is icing on the cake. Giving something, to those in need, is key. Demanding something from those that can give is coveting. On Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:49 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: A Sunday morning sermon to ya'll. http://news.yahoo.com/pope-says-communists-closet-christians-142947603.html http://news.yahoo.com/pope-says-communists-closet-christians-142947603.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope: Communists Are Closet Christians
John, agreed 100%! I was alluding to that, when I mentioned that M had suggested that the poor help the rich to evolve. Giving charity can mitigate ones own karma. Sewing a single seed brings forth many more. I guess there will always be those that think it's unfair for a rich person to help a poor person because they might reap some windfall from it.LOL! M once said that America is a great place to work out ones karma because of all the possibilities. On Sunday, June 29, 2014 4:31 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Mike, There's nothing wrong with giving something as charity from your own pocket. In jyotish, it's a remedy to help a person mitigate the bad karma that he or she is experiencing in this life time. If you think about, there is a practical reason why this works. However, as MMY has mentioned in one of his lectures, there are some people who consciously or unconsciously want to be poor, especially in developed countries like the USA. If one works for a living, there shouldn't be any reason why one has to live in poverty. But unfortunately poverty happens more commonly in third world countries. Is it due to their national karma or is it their government's fault? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Kind of amusing.Poverty is the center of the Gospel, helping the poor, the sick and the needy. The poor aren't very helpful at helping the poor, maybe a little moral support but it takes someone with enough to share, to really help the poor. So you take everything Bill Gates has and distribute it to the poor, equally. What you get is a bunch of people getting a free meal and Bill Gates is broke, asking for a free meal the next day. Didn't Maharishi once say something to the effect that poor people are here to help the rich evolve? Maharishi suggested that people give 6% of their income to charity, the Bible suggests 10% and of course anything over and above is icing on the cake. Giving something, to those in need, is key. Demanding something from those that can give is coveting. On Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:49 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: A Sunday morning sermon to ya'll. http://news.yahoo.com/pope-says-communists-closet-christians-142947603.html
