Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good thing MMY didn't have this idea

2015-03-02 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Medically seminal retention doesn't exist.  The semen still comes out in 
the urine according to a medical article I read way back in the early 1970s.


Civilization is just a way to keep humans from having sex all the time.

On 03/01/2015 11:47 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
*/I will allow those who feel they can make a case for seminal 
retention as a path to God to do so. :-)/*

*/
/*
*/What I'll riff on is -- strangely enough -- the fact that this 
article and like discussions remind me a bit of what it's been like to 
watch the third season of House Of Cards. I've already posted about 
how underwhelmed I was by this season, and how I thought its creators 
had allowed it to degenerate into a soap opera about a powerful, evil 
man (played by Kevin Stacey...now the President) and his equally evil 
but not as powerful wife (played by Robin Wright...no relation), and 
thus making it more a series about a Bad Marriage (and thus boring) 
than an insightful series with anything to say about American 
Presidential politics.

/*
*/
/*
*/All of that was true. But the one way I *was* able to keep my 
interest up enough to keep clicking on the next episode was to focus 
on one other character. That would be Doug Stamper (played by Michael 
Kelly, who deserves any acting award nominations for this season much 
more than either Spacey or Wright).

/*
*/
/*
*/He's the ultimate cultist. This season is more about the marriage 
he feels exists in his head between him and his guru/leader the 
President than it is about the real marriage between the President and 
his wife. Doug Stamper has done despicable things for this President 
-- he's killed for him several times, and helped the President cover 
up the murder he committed with his own hands. He more than anyone 
else should have no illusions about Spacey's character -- he *knows* 
that he's a thoroughly evil man, with no allegiance to anyone or 
anything other than power. But Doug Stamper is completely, totally 
devoted to him, in a way that really only rings true and believable if 
you've been around cults.

/*
*/
/*
*/He spends most of the season trying to recover from the brain injury 
he received while in the process of trying to kill yet another person 
for the President. And *as* he recovers and goes through painful 
therapy and even more painful struggles to keep from slipping back 
into the alcoholism he'd recovered from previously, the *only* thing 
in his mind is how to get back into the good graces of his guru, the 
President.

/*
*/
/*
*/You would recognize this one-pointed fervor, Salyavin. You've seen 
it in any number of Purusha types. They, too could have witnessed 
Maharishi murdering someone and found a way to justify it in their 
minds, because they were so devoted to him. They, too could possibly 
have been talked into murdering for him -- we all know that several 
such people *were* talked into smuggling large sums of cash across 
international borders for Maharishi. They found a way to have *no 
problem* with illegal activities when the person they were devoted to 
told them to perform these activities.

/*
*/
/*
*/This is the nature of devotion, the way Maharishi taught it. If 
the guru sez Jump, the *only* response should be How high? If he 
says Kill, the only response should be Who and how many? (cf. 
Krishna to Arjuna in the Gita)

/*
*/
/*
*/So I would suggest that there are things worse than cutting one's 
balls off to be closer to the guru and closer to God. Worse would be 
cutting out your own moral compass and sense of ethics and believing 
that the *only* thing that defines right (as opposed to wrong) is 
What The Guru Says To Do. That's a castration of a different kind. And 
a much worse one IMO. /*



*From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2015 8:10 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Good thing MMY didn't have this idea

It sounds like natural selection to me.

But it's also worrying because I usually get annoyed when I hear the 
authorities tell us that people have to be protected from their own 
stupidity. Clearly there are some /very/ stupid people about.


I wonder if anyone was happy with the outcome and actually felt closer 
to god? That'd be an interesting study to test True Believerism.


I know a purusha guy who was telling me they have a genuine celibate 
on the programme - that's completely celibate since forever - they are 
all excited because they obviously think this qualifies the guy as a 
hot ticket for enlightenment.


I asked him if it was really a good thing and maybe he should shag 
around for a bit to know what he's missing before he gets stuck with a 
peer group who are so intent on pressuring him to keep chaste. I got 
the usual stony look and was left with the impression they think I 
just don't get this stuff.


So maybe one of our more

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good thing MMY didn't have this idea

2015-03-01 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I will allow those who feel they can make a case for seminal retention as a 
path to God to do so.  :-)
What I'll riff on is -- strangely enough -- the fact that this article and like 
discussions remind me a bit of what it's been like to watch the third season of 
House Of Cards. I've already posted about how underwhelmed I was by this 
season, and how I thought its creators had allowed it to degenerate into a soap 
opera about a powerful, evil man (played by Kevin Stacey...now the President) 
and his equally evil but not as powerful wife (played by Robin Wright...no 
relation), and thus making it more a series about a Bad Marriage (and thus 
boring) than an insightful series with anything to say about American 
Presidential politics. 

All of that was true. But the one way I *was* able to keep my interest up 
enough to keep clicking on the next episode was to focus on one other 
character. That would be Doug Stamper (played by Michael Kelly, who deserves 
any acting award nominations for this season much more than either Spacey or 
Wright). 

He's the ultimate cultist. This season is more about the marriage he feels 
exists in his head between him and his guru/leader the President than it is 
about the real marriage between the President and his wife. Doug Stamper has 
done despicable things for this President -- he's killed for him several times, 
and helped the President cover up the murder he committed with his own hands. 
He more than anyone else should have no illusions about Spacey's character -- 
he *knows* that he's a thoroughly evil man, with no allegiance to anyone or 
anything other than power. But Doug Stamper is completely, totally devoted to 
him, in a way that really only rings true and believable if you've been around 
cults. 

He spends most of the season trying to recover from the brain injury he 
received while in the process of trying to kill yet another person for the 
President. And *as* he recovers and goes through painful therapy and even more 
painful struggles to keep from slipping back into the alcoholism he'd recovered 
from previously, the *only* thing in his mind is how to get back into the good 
graces of his guru, the President. 

You would recognize this one-pointed fervor, Salyavin. You've seen it in any 
number of Purusha types. They, too could have witnessed Maharishi murdering 
someone and found a way to justify it in their minds, because they were so 
devoted to him. They, too could possibly have been talked into murdering for 
him -- we all know that several such people *were* talked into smuggling large 
sums of cash across international borders for Maharishi. They found a way to 
have *no problem* with illegal activities when the person they were devoted to 
told them to perform these activities. 

This is the nature of devotion, the way Maharishi taught it. If the guru sez 
Jump, the *only* response should be How high? If he says Kill, the only 
response should be Who and how many? (cf. Krishna to Arjuna in the Gita)

So I would suggest that there are things worse than cutting one's balls off to 
be closer to the guru and closer to God. Worse would be cutting out your own 
moral compass and sense of ethics and believing that the *only* thing that 
defines right (as opposed to wrong) is What The Guru Says To Do. That's a 
castration of a different kind. And a much worse one IMO.  

  From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 8:10 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good thing MMY didn't have this idea
   
    It sounds like natural selection to me.
But it's also worrying because I usually get annoyed when I hear the 
authorities tell us that people have to be protected from their own stupidity. 
Clearly there are some very stupid people about.
I wonder if anyone was happy with the outcome and actually felt closer to god? 
That'd be an interesting study to test True Believerism.
I know a purusha guy who was telling me they have a genuine celibate on the 
programme - that's completely celibate since forever - they are all excited 
because they obviously think this qualifies the guy as a hot ticket for 
enlightenment.
I asked him if it was really a good thing and maybe he should shag around for a 
bit to know what he's missing before he gets stuck with a peer group who are so 
intent on pressuring him to keep chaste. I got the usual stony look and was 
left with the impression they think I just don't get this stuff. 
So maybe one of our more spiritual types can tell me; what does an orgasm do to 
you that is so bad that it stops you getting enlightened, or at least slows 
down your evolution?





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

Spiritual leader allegedly manipulated 400 men into removing testicles 
to be 'closer to God'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/spiritual-leader-allegedly-manipulated-400-men-into-removing-testicles-to-be-closer-to-god-10078095.html