Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish is a practice?
Obbajeeba, one of my favorite amateur jyotishis said that for marriage it's good to have a compatability number over 25. Based on my own experience, I'd say that's good advice. But of course being in FF, I've heard of good marriages with low compatability number and failed marriages with high compatability number. Go figure! Yes, in my experience the same jyotishi will say different things at different times. He said me and my ex had good compatability but the timing was bad. Later he mentioned the ex's kuja dosha which I don't have and which if I had known about never would have gotten involved. Anyway, water under the bridge and we're friends now so all well that ends well, etc. I think you and the man have good compatability for friendship. Of course if either of you have rahu or ketu in 7th, it's best if the other person has it too. Fat lot of good this does for you now but hopefully helpful for next time. I better shut up now before turq blows a gasket. I think it's great that you have a sense of humor about it all. From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2013 9:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish is a practice? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 06/02/2013 08:59 AM, obbajeeba wrote: Let the bashing begin! What if a Pandit says and writes that someone is compatible with another, then a few years later the Pandit says the people are not compatible and he only said that because he thought that is what the couple wanted, and that he only went along with one's feelings because there was love and compassion in a charts and eventually one would find out they did not like each other? The Pandit is a bad astrologer. There are a couple of those out there. ;-) Thanks. I went back and reviewed my old emails and I kept asking the pandit if he is he sure this compatibility is okay? Then at one point in a later email the pandit says about the dasa period the man is running, which is the same one he said we both were running and everything was good at the time of the good compatibility reading, now later says the man is not ready for me until after the same certain dasa period and the pandit goes as far as to say that the pandit is not wrong about the compatibility, which was said to be good.again, twice.. ...but of course, today he says he told me it was wrong, the compatibility. He says I have a free will.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish is a practice?
Ann, you're definitely on a roll this morning, yay! And Obbajee I love what you say about love having no expectations, no boundaries. As for your being wooly headed, IMHO life would be sort of boring if we didn't have some wooly headedness now and then. Who the heck wants everything and everyone to be perfect all the time?! From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 8:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish is a practice? Thank you, Share. Thanks to all. The most most most recent email (now compared to two years ago) flips opinion of what was good compatibility, to a medium compatibility, (23.5) and the kuja dosha was not cancelled meaning separation. Kuja dosha was said to have canceled in the first email I got from the pandit. This is WAY wrong to say one thing and flip to another using a science, as a theme of what science, because Jyotish is not actual science? Share, I too have heard and seen people with higher and lower compatibilities stay together or part ways, and as someone else wrote, these numbers are for arranged marriages. There is no escaping an arranged marriage. lol Divorce rates are 50 percent in the west. At the same time, even if people divorce, I have witnessed and witness currently couples who have gotten rid of some of their baggage and maybe even the marriage license (this would suggest the divorce rate is not actually 50%, because some couples do not have a license and live as life partners.) I have always been freaked out by those divorce numbers, hearing of them made me wonder what was wrong with our culture. Now I am gaining a different perspective on that. The perspective that the western culture divorce rate is really not bad at all! My fear to get into more than one relationship only to find it may end, and on to another, should not be concerned with Jyotish as a fact, other than my own tendencies (learning my own) of relating to and with another partner from my own experiences. At least our culture allows for release of dysfunctional relationships. Just because a Hindu is married, does not mean they do not cheat, lie, or love. So they stay married. I was lucky to have a quarter of a century with my husband, life partner, friend. I am grateful for that whole time of ups and downs. His leaving the earth is all that separates us. Love has no boundaries, no expectations, so I do know I can share again on this earth, I just wanted to do it right and that is where a pandit pissed me off, because I was vulnerable to not knowing what direction to take, wanting to avoid going from one man to another to another, and again hoping to make it to the second happy phase of a life partner in my life. ha. I am not into all the silly dating games, but tend to navigate towards those from my past who know me well, my behavior, and actions. The one's who know how I treated my husband, how I treated our child. It is hard to hide baggage with those we have known a long time, so my wonder is, Why was I wooly headed to think I needed Jyotish to guide me in making decisions about a partner when I have experience in this life to shine the light for me? Go ahead Turq, tear this up! lol --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Obbajeeba, one of my favorite amateur jyotishis said that for marriage it's good to have a compatability number over 25. Based on my own experience, I'd say that's good advice. But of course being in FF, I've heard of good marriages with low compatability number and failed marriages with high compatability number. Go figure! Yes, in my experience the same jyotishi will say different things at different times. He said me and my ex had good compatability but the timing was bad. Later he mentioned the ex's kuja dosha which I don't have and which if I had known about never would have gotten involved. Anyway, water under the bridge and we're friends now so all well that ends well, etc. I think you and the man have good compatability for friendship. Of course if either of you have rahu or ketu in 7th, it's best if the other person has it too. Fat lot of good this does for you now but hopefully helpful for next time. I better shut up now before turq blows a gasket. I think it's great that you have a sense of humor about it all.   From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2013 9:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish is a practice?  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On 06/02/2013 08:59 AM, obbajeeba wrote: Let the bashing begin! What if a Pandit says and writes that someone is compatible with another, then a few years later the Pandit says the people are not compatible
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish is a practice?
The first thing ANY jyotishi should look at in a horoscope is if the person has karma for marriage at all. Some folks even have a sanyassi yoga in their horoscope classically forbidding marriage. I recall looking at someone's chart one time and saying they had no karma for marriage. They laughed and said they'd been married three times. I said, yup, no karma for marriage. Nothing wrong with challenging that karma though but the test may just prove it correct. Sometimes if a person meets someone they like then like magic someone else pops up to take that person away from them. On 06/02/2013 10:22 AM, John wrote: Srijau, You have to understand the situation of marriage here in the USA and elsewhere in the world. The divorce rate in the USA is probably greater than 50 percent at this time. And this is largely due to a culture that primarily relies on sexual attraction and infatuation as the basis for marriage. (This is readily obvious in reading the lives of movie, television and entertainment stars today). So, with this background, it would be beneficial for couples to check their feelings with an objective measure based on a time-tested method that is available in jyotish. If a couple is advised of the compatibility analysis, they would be better informed as to the validity of their love for each other. As such, they should make a better decision for getting into a marriage contract. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, srijau@... no_reply@... wrote: I have read that compatibility analysis is only for arranged marriages and if two people are in love it is irrelevant. Certainly there is much crappy (mis)use of Jyotish in the present time, I suggest you read PVR Narasimha Rao to get some insight into the present condition of Jyotish. Also Fairfield has a very good Jyotishi in David Hawthorne who practices a form of Jyotish that adapts to how the planets are really operating in the present time and does not take much of the orthodoxies for granted. I have heard that he was highly praised by Maharishi when he heard that he organized group program for people banned from the Dome! There is someone posting in this group Jyotish oriented statements and I would describe these posts as nearly psychotic gibberish with a very poor understanding of Jyotish. Please do not judge Jyotish on the basis of such garbage. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Let the bashing begin! What if a Pandit says and writes that someone is compatible with another, then a few years later the Pandit says the people are not compatible and he only said that because he thought that is what the couple wanted, and that he only went along with one's feelings because there was love and compassion in a charts and eventually one would find out they did not like each other?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish is a practice?
On 06/02/2013 01:13 PM, John wrote: Bhairitu, Your point is well taken. There are also many other areas in life that have to be taken into consideration. There's another case of an individual who has the conjunction of Venus and Mars. This conjunction is notorious for making an individual passionate and sexual. It would be harsh to tell the person NOT to get married. I've even known Indian astrologers who have suggested flings for situations like that. Marriage is just a societal convention anyway.
