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Dear Bob, thank you very much for sharing your experiences, that's awesome. So my intuition that you had a great deal of interest in people declaring enlightenment was spot on after all..:-). Anyway, since cleaning the clock was the favorite phrase of this week, I have to say you were the only person to clean my clock..LOL..that takes a special, unique bird err..turkey to do that. And that explains my love, appreciation for you. From: Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, December 3, 2011 8:38:08 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife Jason, Thank you; your clarification was appreciated. I certainly agree with you about Barrykins, but not about Jim, Ravi or MZ. When I was a proud member of the TMO, a little shy of 4 decades ago, some initiators were popping into enlightenment, like home brewed near beer in an over heated attic, and it used to irritate the shit out of me. I was old school, and figured the number of people I initiated was the only metric Maharishi cared about, and, at the time, I thought if all I cared about was what *I thought* Maharishi cared about, my enlightenment would take care of itself. I initiated a lot of people, and was blessed with a lot of time around Maharishi, and, I figured---some of my enlightened peers, seemed like complete losers when it came to my metric. Fast-forward, 35 years after leaving the TMO, I join FFL, and, sure enough, my metric and me pick up right where we left off. The only problem, was that as I proceeded to try and become FFL's biggest turkey, with a keyboard, I noticed people like Jim, Ravi, MZ, Rory and others---who had made it clear, they were either experiencing, or had previously experienced, a higher state of consciousness, not only seemed to be having more fun, but seemed to be one fu*k of a lot more tolerant, and frankly, more emotionally developed then most of us questioning their veracity. So I had this moment of clarity when I concluded: Why not, and, Who am I to question someone else's internal landscape. Since then I've been enjoying myself on FFL one hell of a lot more. I'm even thinking; if I hang around, some of the light may rub off on me. I had my palm read in Baalbek years ago, and this very pretty Lebanese lady told me I was a young soul. So I figure, after I come back as a slug, along with Barry---a few times, I may get another kick at the can, as a human, and, if nothing else, I can say I knew Ravi, Rory, and Jim---back in the day, when they were sentient beings. I certainty respect your right to think everything above is complete nonsense (except the part about the Lebanese lady being pretty); I enjoyed your post to me and wanted to share my experience. Another possibility is that this is just my way of trying to trick Tom into restarting his posting; if he does, I plan to throw another I Ching for (at) him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THcbQyFtCqg From: Jason jedi_sp...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 2, 2011 11:46:25 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife I am sorry for the misunderstanding Bob. Pardon me, I wasn't refering to you. I was refering to Jim and Barry. Both make a good pair. Uncle Tantra is a pseudo-critic and a teaser. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Jim, Is it something we said, or something he ate---I'm going with the latter. Maybe he's related to Sal and your pictures set him off; probably not, better chance he lives with Vaj http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIJt9LYbtBsfeature=related From: Jason jedi_spock@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 2, 2011 9:32:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife And you are a pseudo-enlightened cosmic bitch whoring your fake 'awakening' around. And he is a pseudo-critic and an intellectual strip queen who stripteases in internet forums. Both of you make a good pair don't you. You both are made for each other. From: whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 2, 2011 10:31 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife Ha Ha Ha! Yes, I think I sufficiently explored within the realms of consciousness the genesis of Barry's use of the term, drama queen, which has now been supported further with the media you have supplied. He is truly everywhere, secure in his infinite archetype, kosmic King Baby.
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Jason, Thank you; your clarification was appreciated. I certainly agree with you about Barrykins, but not about Jim, Ravi or MZ. When I was a proud member of the TMO, a little shy of 4 decades ago, some initiators were popping into enlightenment, like home brewed near beer in an over heated attic, and it used to irritate the shit out of me. I was old school, and figured the number of people I initiated was the only metric Maharishi cared about, and, at the time, I thought if all I cared about was what *I thought* Maharishi cared about, my enlightenment would take care of itself. I initiated a lot of people, and was blessed with a lot of time around Maharishi, and, I figured---some of my enlightened peers, seemed like complete losers when it came to my metric. Fast-forward, 35 years after leaving the TMO, I join FFL, and, sure enough, my metric and me pick up right where we left off. The only problem, was that as I proceeded to try and become FFL's biggest turkey, with a keyboard, I noticed people like Jim, Ravi, MZ, Rory and others---who had made it clear, they were either experiencing, or had previously experienced, a higher state of consciousness, not only seemed to be having more fun, but seemed to be one fu*k of a lot more tolerant, and frankly, more emotionally developed then most of us questioning their veracity. So I had this moment of clarity when I concluded: Why not, and, Who am I to question someone else's internal landscape. Since then I've been enjoying myself on FFL one hell of a lot more. I'm even thinking; if I hang around, some of the light may rub off on me. I had my palm read in Baalbek years ago, and this very pretty Lebanese lady told me I was a young soul. So I figure, after I come back as a slug, along with Barry---a few times, I may get another kick at the can, as a human, and, if nothing else, I can say I knew Ravi, Rory, and Jim---back in the day, when they were sentient beings. I certainty respect your right to think everything above is complete nonsense (except the part about the Lebanese lady being pretty); I enjoyed your post to me and wanted to share my experience. Another possibility is that this is just my way of trying to trick Tom into restarting his posting; if he does, I plan to throw another I Ching for (at) him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THcbQyFtCqg From: Jason jedi_sp...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 2, 2011 11:46:25 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife I am sorry for the misunderstanding Bob. Pardon me, I wasn't refering to you. I was refering to Jim and Barry. Both make a good pair. Uncle Tantra is a pseudo-critic and a teaser. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Jim, Is it something we said, or something he ate---I'm going with the latter. Maybe he's related to Sal and your pictures set him off; probably not, better chance he lives with Vaj http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIJt9LYbtBsfeature=related From: Jason jedi_spock@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 2, 2011 9:32:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife And you are a pseudo-enlightened cosmic bitch whoring your fake 'awakening' around. And he is a pseudo-critic and an intellectual strip queen who stripteases in internet forums. Both of you make a good pair don't you. You both are made for each other. From: whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 2, 2011 10:31 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife Ha Ha Ha! Yes, I think I sufficiently explored within the realms of consciousness the genesis of Barry's use of the term, drama queen, which has now been supported further with the media you have supplied. He is truly everywhere, secure in his infinite archetype, kosmic King Baby.
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What do you mean the preceding post was manufactured by a perverse charity? What I meant is Jim and Barry are made for each other. One is pseudo-enlightened and the other is a pseudo-critic who stripteases on internet forums. From Maharishi to Constantine you have come a pretty long way. Atleast give a clear answer why you refuse a private message from Vajra boy. From: maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 1:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife Jason, baby: Are you a hired gun? And why the silence all this time—coming in now when the shooting has more or less stopped. Your posts have a sense of immediacy about them; I am surprised you kept your gun in your holster all this time. I would only say one thing: the extremity of your anger on behalf of Barry and Vaj is a substitute for anything sincere you might really have to say. So the violence and the abuse is to make up for the fact that, when it comes down to it, Jason baby, *you have nothing to say*. What the fuck is your point? When you attack someone, you must realize, that in order to be taken seriously, we must feel the sincerity behind your passion. This post, and the one preceding it, are entirely manufactured out of a perverse charity on behalf of two persons who themselves have nothing more to say. What is left to say? Something coming from some anonymous assassin—someone as far as I know, who hasn't posted on FFL during all the time that these discussions have gone on. Do you know Vaj and/or Barry, Jedi Spock? Look at your first two sentences: the violence of your words makes it seem as if my reluctance to enter into a private offline conversation with a poster I do not know personally is somehow the hard and indefensible response of someone who hates small children and dogs. I'm afraid you're going to have to do better than this, Jason, my boy. I look forward to your committing yourself to the disclosure of what possibly could be behind these two posts—other than acting as a surrogate someone else (who has been silenced). So, bring it on, Jason; I'd like to find out there was some truth in what you have said here. So far, though, you have made a convincing case that you are someone contriving to use whatever bitterness and anger is in you in the cause of something which, intrinsically, has nothing to with the very bitterness and anger you bring to these posts. And where does the poor Pope come into this? Jason, get a grip, buddy. Oh. And by the way: some name-calling bathroom graffiti will not take the place of substance.—I refer to your next post in response to this one. You are full of shit, Jason, until you can prove otherwise. Now, tell me precisely what this is about—if, that is, it is not about acting as proxy for your two acquaintances? That said, you have a nice day now, OK? This might be fun. What do you say, Jason? Robin Fucking asshole, He just wants to send you a private message. So have a chat with him in private. So, now you fuck with the Pope, do you? A pseudo-enlightened nutball like you with verbal diarrhea you seem to have a mouth of a high speed computer and the intuition of a snail.
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Yeah Robin's awesome. I just enjoy the way he slowly, methodically decimated, with that sheer burden of those heavy, beautiful words. I have ran into Jason before. He is just a fucking retard. A wannabe spiritual thug. These retards feel so insignificant, insubstantial, inconsequential yet would like to be special; get jealous of the people who they think have attained some sort of specialness that they feel vey threatened by it. Fascinated with the personality, the elusive, evasive, enchanting perfection of the personality, of the outer. Pathetic. Sad. Pitiful. On Dec 2, 2011, at 2:46 PM, whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com wrote: Applause - Brilliant! PS to Jason, yo bruvva, MZ eats yer lunch every time. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: He lied about receiving shakti and darshan from me when I literally levitated him after he carefully and devotedly handed me a flower (while I was being protected by my Vedic umbrella). He lied about saying we never made a snowman together. He said I never replaced Tom Brady when Brady was sidelined for a whole year with that leg injury. He denied he was on the mountain with me at Arosa, Switzerland in 1976 when I saw God. He says I was still riding a three-wheeler right into my teens. He says I can't dunk. He knocked the wind out of me on the rugby pitch—then denied he was even playing that day. He implies Joni Mitchell is not as great a poet at William Butler Yeats. Do I need to go on, Jason? Oh, yeah, one other thing: he says spinach did not contribute to my enlightenment. Vajra boy seems to think otherwise. Well, that he does. But you see, Jason, he doesn't really mean it. He says he pulled Saddam out of the spider hole too. Sure, the real truth is he is my best friend. But I am embarrassed by his posts about TM, so I decided to say I didn't know him. Even though we were actually lovers in a previous lifetime. Jason: Now you are coming to the point. What exactly did he lie about you? Are you sure that he is a stranger to you? Vajra boy seems to think otherwise. So, then, I must assume a person is an asshole for not giving out their personal e-mail address to strangers, that is, strangers who ask for this information, with the intention to send e-mails to oneself. It seems to me, Jason, there are quite a few fucking assholes out there who would sympathize with me (especially given the circumstances: someone who lied about me, and published that lie to the world); more than this, most everyone would have been surprised had I acceded to Vaj's request. You are going to have to deal with this fact. From: maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 2:36 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife Dear Jason, Compare the rhetoric of this last post of yours with the two previous ones. This disturbs me. If you were able to express yourself like you have in this last post, why did you Mr Hyde yourself in those first two? In the non-technical sense (literary) sense of the word, this seems schizophrenic. Or elseâ€I must withhold, given what you say here, this other interpretation†it is classic Vaj. So, then, you only meant to insult whynotnow and Amsterdam. This seems peculiar to me, since it is unusual for someone to take a violently negative position about two persons who are in conflict. The tendency is to assume you are for one or the other. Evidently in this case, that is not true. I will, out of deference to your good will in this, leave that aside, then, except to say that whatever are the merits of whynotnow's claim to be enlightened, he writes with passion and sincerity, and in this particular case, he is hitting his mark. For your judgment of him to stick, you should have found something else to quote, as you lampoon yourself by not recognizing the appositeness of his little dialogue. I must suppose that the adjudication of Big Sur did not bother you in the least, then, even as he was commenting favourably on whynotnow's little dialogue. As for myself, you have called me a fucking asshole, a pseudo-enlightened nutball [like that, Sal?] with verbal diarrhea, with a mouth of a high speed computer and the intuition of a snail. So, then, I must assume a person is an asshole for not giving out their personal e-mail address to strangers, that is, strangers who ask for this information, with the intention to send e-mails to oneself. It seems to me, Jason, there are quite a few fucking assholes out there who would sympathize with me (especially given the circumstances: someone who lied about me, and published that lie to the world
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z9mhbHXSi4feature=related Cliff, If you an old Sal want to exchange snaps, don't worry about me; that said, I'm wondering if the literacy requirement for Texas Governors, Old Sal, and you thinking for and of, mean the same thing, have a relationship you're trying to point out? Keep those photos of Rama (aka Kenny G) coming. Yours in Yoga. PS: If you show a little humility with emptybill he might give you a mega mantra to help with: I'm powerless over Wikipedia and it makes my life unmanageable Don't be afraid, I'm here to tell you that you're in good hands with emptybill---just relax. http://www.youtube.com/user/SewWhatByAndrew?v=7tebuI7MRhsfeature=pyv From: richardatrwilliamsdotus rich...@rwilliams.us To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 2, 2011 7:18:15 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife Bob Price: Does anyone else have a picture for Sal, lets be fair. Let's be fair Bob - you haven't even posted a photo of yourself yet, so how would Sal know if she wanted to share a photo of herself with you?
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Jim, Is it something we said, or something he ate---I'm going with the latter. Maybe he's related to Sal and your pictures set him off; probably not, better chance he lives with Vaj http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIJt9LYbtBsfeature=related From: Jason jedi_sp...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 2, 2011 9:32:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife And you are a pseudo-enlightened cosmic bitch whoring your fake 'awakening' around. And he is a pseudo-critic and an intellectual strip queen who stripteases in internet forums. Both of you make a good pair don't you. You both are made for each other. From: whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 2, 2011 10:31 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife Ha Ha Ha! Yes, I think I sufficiently explored within the realms of consciousness the genesis of Barry's use of the term, drama queen, which has now been supported further with the media you have supplied. He is truly everywhere, secure in his infinite archetype, kosmic King Baby. heheh - Bob, truly inspired by the idea of a screenplay, perhaps as an animated component of said holiday gift manual, I decided to finish the scene I began earlier, only this time Vaj's wife is indeed King Baby: Vaj: (staring a little too intensely at the computer screen) Fuck! Shit! KB: (dusting, in another room) What's wrong honey? Vaj: The fourth person this week on FFL is saying I never learned or taught TM - bastards, I'd like t... KB: Your-medication-is-on-the-bathroom-counter-upstairs (for the millionth time)! Vaj: fuck...What?! KB: (sigh) Nothing!! (drops duster, stands up, arms akimbo, apron on) When are you going to get rid of that crazy idea that the only time anyone is going to take your Buddhist teachings seriously, is if you say you used to be a TM Teacher? Just say, OK what's the big deal I didn't get within a mile of ever knowing TM, but here's why Buddhism will bring you salvation... Vaj: (yelling over his shoulder, a cold Mountain Dew and a few loose mms next to his PC)Yeah, it *would* make my family happy...After all of their ties to HHDL, it is like a knife through their hearts every time I fake it with TM. But I HAVE TO, even though the last time over at my dad's, I mentioned that Intro Lecture I snuck into back in '74, and he sent me out to his meditation cave in the backyard for three frikkin' hours!! Sitting on those old stained magazines, its gross! KB: ...I know, you put up with a lot from him (rolls her eyes)...Anyway it wouldn't hurt for you to ditch the bathrobe and look for work today... Vaj: huh?...Wait! I just found an old box of polaroids! I think I figured out how to kill two birds with one stone...this'll distract 'em...bastards... KB: Bills are due! Vaj: Look!!! Dearest, we've discussed this many times. This my life's work! I am saving the world! Tibet is for everyone! His Holiness... KB: OK...OK...OK...O...K... (whispered to her sister on the phone: I hate it when VJ gets like this) KB's sister: (split screen aka Pillow Talk) How long has it been since she, y'know...like...worked? KB: Don't ask. Don't. Ask. It's a wonder I can put food on the table. VJ's been *very* upset these days. So bitchy sometimes -  that's my Opinion, anyway...So snide this morning after I had made omelettes and brioche for us, she says, Going out to the...`café' to do some...`writing'??, like my talent is lost on her...Hasn't she read my online masterpiece, Roadtrip Highway Travelin' Thang?? VJ *said* I was good...she always encourages me to continue with my new book... KB's sister: Know'wcha'mean... KB: fuck, cracked my nail, gotta go sis! KB's sister: toodles! call me -
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On Dec 2, 2011, at 4:06 PM, maskedzebra wrote: Intuition of a snail: this is interesting, because this I consider the most developed part of me—and I have felt this to be the case since I was even a baby, when I started having my own thoughts. Again, I would like you to present—just for *my sake*—examples of my failure of intuition. (Assuming that you are not some biologist who has studied the intelligence of snails—and you mean this as a compliment—in that case it would another instance of having misinterpreted you.) Something worth considering: if you're able to discern, or feedback from others has lead you to believe that you may have or hold some narcissistic tendencies, could it be you are overestimating your own intuitive powers? Is that at least a possibility? For example, I always thought your sussing of Doug K. as an old sage (or was it ancient?) was at least apropos contextually. But it could have been a mis-extrapolation of the fact that D. left numerous natural pregnant pauses in his speech - a natural part of who he was, the natural silence I felt he had, in his mindstream. As the Rig Veda says, some friends are like mud puddles - others are like deep lakes you can vanish into (gross, rough paraphrase). D. was the latter in my opinion. It was actually those deep silences that made him so pleasurable to be around. I remember asking him, after the fact, if he knew who the sage was you had suggested. My memory's vague at this point - but I thought he said he had asked you, and you either did not know or gave a vague answer. Surely you remember this?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwpv=Ba3e0LaTyHYNR=1 From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 2, 2011 6:30:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife On Dec 2, 2011, at 4:06 PM, maskedzebra wrote: Intuition of a snail: this is interesting, because this I consider the most developed part of me—and I have felt this to be the case since I was even a baby, when I started having my own thoughts. Again, I would like you to present—just for *my sake*—examples of my failure of intuition. (Assuming that you are not some biologist who has studied the intelligence of snails—and you mean this as a compliment—in that case it would another instance of having misinterpreted you.) Something worth considering: if you're able to discern, or feedback from others has lead you to believe that you may have or hold some narcissistic tendencies, could it be you are overestimating your own intuitive powers? Is that at least a possibility? For example, I always thought your sussing of Doug K. as an old sage (or was it ancient?) was at least apropos contextually. But it could have been a mis-extrapolation of the fact that D. left numerous natural pregnant pauses in his speech - a natural part of who he was, the natural silence I felt he had, in his mindstream. As the Rig Veda says, some friends are like mud puddles - others are like deep lakes you can vanish into (gross, rough paraphrase). D. was the latter in my opinion. It was actually those deep silences that made him so pleasurable to be around. I remember asking him, after the fact, if he knew who the sage was you had suggested. My memory's vague at this point - but I thought he said he had asked you, and you either did not know or gave a vague answer. Surely you remember this?
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Judy, I, for one, miss you when you post out; yesterday would have been a lot more interesting with your contributions. I don't particularly question Barry's claim he peed on Einsteins leg, anymore than I question all his *fame by association* claims, but the first time I read a post with this claim, he also stated: turquoiseb wrote: For those interested in these sciency things, it looks as if the guy whose leg I once peed on (as an infant, mind you, and I have no memory of the event) may have been w...w...wrong about the speed of light. If my grandfather's story of me having some loss of bladder control while being bounced on his knee was correct, it was probably contact with my unevolved pee that eventually produced the mistake. My reading of his post is that he is claiming his pee influenced Einstein's SRT (special relativity theory) which was published in 1905, his GRT (general relativity theory) work was published until 1916, but it was 1919 before Sir Arthur Eddington proved the GRT which let to Einstien's Noble in 1921, and, for that time, his rock star status. For Barry's claim to be accurate he would have to be more than a hundred years old (maybe the wife is right: you're far to cynical) We have found a strange footprint on the shores of the unknown. We have devised profound theories, one after another, to account for its origins. At last, we have succeeded in reconstructing the creature that made the footprint. And lo! It is our own. ---Sir Arthur Eddington: Space, Time, and Gravitation, 1920 From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 2, 2011 7:47:31 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: snip Yo Vajette, can I suggest, if you want some pointers on how pictures can support content, mosey on over to Jim's post of images to be included in King Babys *feelings* manual, and see how its done (you may *or may not* sit on the boards of *God knows* how many public companies, but when it comes to convincing narratives; you don't know shit from shinola); your old SX-70 Polaroid, 1st gen snap seems to be as related to your claims as me on a sand dune must mean I invaded Aqaba with old T.E. in 1917 I was thinking the same thing (albeit not as colorfully). (no, I didn't also pee on Einsteins pants in 1905). But this has been puzzling me ever since you first mentioned it. Why do you think it's not possible that when Barry was an infant, he sat in Einstein's lap? I'm serious. What's with 1905? And why did you suggest that Barry would have had to have been somewhat north of 106 for his story to be true? I'm serious here. Einstein died in 1955; Barry was born around 1946. Chronologically, it's entirely possible. WTF?
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On Dec 1, 2011, at 8:54 AM, turquoiseb wrote: That certainly looks like Gemma. She was on my TTC, where many considered *her* crazy as a loon because she kept going on about being enlightened. We were warned by the person in charge of our small Canadian group (I lived in Toronto at the time) to distance ourselves from her because she was in danger of being sent home, and we might be perceived as being like her. I didn't know her well enough to pay any attention to the advice, one way or another. Looks as if she found the perfect hubbie. Two drama queens united in loving bliss. :-) Isn't it fascinating that Mr. I Can Talk About Myself For Hours, No Matter How Boring Others May Find It has never felt the need to explain his supposed ability to see demons in others and/or expel them? One is tempted to think that not only is he trying to hide that aspect of his life, he's trying to pretend Vaj never met him to keep the subject from coming up, and thus having to explain it. Well, I try to be sensitive to the fact that this whole thing has to have been very traumatic for R. It's amazing that none of the video has been leaked yet, but that's really just a matter of converting the old analog video to digital and we could have them up on YouTube quickly thereafter. The pathology of supposed higher states of consciousness - meditative disease - is a new field really, and I think video documentation could go a long way to helping jumpstart that field, potentially preventing suffering from faux meditative lineages like Mahesh Co. But maybe he's explained and I missed it. That's quite possible because as I've said often, I don't find the guy interesting enough to read what he writes, much less interact with him. The only thing that fascinates me about him is how many suckers flocked around him back in the day, and how many still do. As I've suggested before, there is just no accounting for bad taste and low standards. :-) Well, it's the principle of charm applied to sociology: RWC was and still is in many ways, a very charming man. However I think this is a common mode of functioning in certain Axis II disorders and oddly a perfect match for some Me Decade types, who tended to already have similar traits, and thus self-select for such courses. I remember specifically the moment I knew his World Teacher Seminar was harming others. It was one of those late night chats with other CP's and one of the course participants revealed that he was gay. He wasn't just gay, he was addicted to cock. Any size, shape or form he could get his mouth on. Since RWC's opinion on homosexuality was unknown, he was greatly concerned that if this was known, he would be grilled on the stage, at the microphone and be declared demonic, thus forced to endure humiliation and persecution. The utter terror he felt was palpable and you could have heard a pin drop as he told his story. And similar to the Gemma story, others on these course were often worried about associating with potentially demonic people, either in a guilt by association/birds of a feather flock together kind of way, or as a form of psychic contagion.
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Even for you two nitwits; this is a new low. Why don't we just sum up what you two girlie boys have been up to in this post: 1. Aspiring screenwriter that the Vajette appears to be; I have a picture of myself sitting on a sand dune in the Kingdom's empty quarter, at about the same time Vajette claims this photo was taken; so according to how he thinks pictures are worth a thousand words, we can assume, just over the next sand dune, we'll find T.E. Lawrence, and his Bedouin army, cooling their heels---waiting for me to show up, and show them how to invade Aqaba. Yo Vajette, can I suggest, if you want some pointers on how pictures can support content, mosey on over to Jim's post of images to be included in King Babys *feelings* manual, and see how its done (you may *or may not* sit on the boards of *God knows* how many public companies, but when it comes to convincing narratives; you don't know shit from shinola); your old SX-70 Polaroid, 1st gen snap seems to be as related to your claims as me on a sand dune must mean I invaded Aqaba with old T.E. in 1917 (no, I didn't also pee on Einsteins pants in 1905). 2. Not to be outdone; the boy, whose balls seem to be missing, decides this is a perfect time to slander someone who does not post on FFL, who no doubt wouldn't have given him the time of day, now or at any time (likely being one of those complicated women who have an opinion or two of their own), and attempts to use the type of information *his homey* regularly uses, that any loser can pick up on the Internet, to once again: I drove Clint to the Merv Griffin show; prove he not the biggest loser to ever grace FFL. Yo KB, we understand how dramatized you were by Rama rejecting you, but there is another interpretation on his suicide, besides your rejection; like I said, no matter how much you act out, I doubt MZ will adopt you. 10. Rama was the last daddy you'll ever have; if MZ wanted children I'm sure he'd aim higher than the leftovers from a guy who offed himself, rather than face prison. http://img.kyon.pl/static/img/remiq.net_5640.jpg BTW, what TTC course were you on, did you chauffeur Clint then as well? From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 5:54:23 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Nov 30, 2011, at 8:13 PM, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File : /Paths, Teachers and Cults/HHRWCFFia.jpg Uploaded by : vajradhatu108 vajradhatu@... Description : HH RWC with entourage and Guru Dev wannabe umbrella, Fairfield, IA. � Vajranatha 1983 Here's a picture I took outside of a church in FF with my old SX-70 Polaroid, 1st gen. I forget what it was but I believe it is some sort of pronouncement that HH Robin Carlsen is holding in the picture, while Saint Gemma II looks on concerned about the actions we're about to undertake, probably marching onto the MIU campus or some such activity. Since his psychotic break kundalini psychosis episode TM- style enlightenment in Switzerland his sattvic countenance was often protected from the rajasic rays of the sun by a sacred umbrella. Notice the nervous and tense vibe in the seminar students. This was a common vibe in the World Teacher Seminar because if you weren't about to do something quasi-illegal - marching onto private campuses, disrupting public lectures, etc. there was always the chance that you could be declared demonic if Robin and the seminar couldn't groove to your darshan (while standing in front of an audience, being drilled at a microphone, in a basement somewhere). That certainly looks like Gemma. She was on my TTC, where many considered *her* crazy as a loon because she kept going on about being enlightened. We were warned by the person in charge of our small Canadian group (I lived in Toronto at the time) to distance ourselves from her because she was in danger of being sent home, and we might be perceived as being like her. I didn't know her well enough to pay any attention to the advice, one way or another. Looks as if she found the perfect hubbie. Two drama queens united in loving bliss. :-) Isn't it fascinating that Mr. I Can Talk About Myself For Hours, No Matter How Boring Others May Find It has never felt the need to explain his supposed ability to see demons in others and/or expel them? One is tempted to think that not only is he trying to hide that aspect of his life, he's trying to pretend Vaj never met him to keep the subject from coming up, and thus having to explain it. But maybe he's explained and I missed it. That's quite possible because as I've said often, I don't
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On Dec 1, 2011, at 10:03 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Well, I try to be sensitive to the fact that this whole thing has to have been very traumatic for R. By this whole thing do you mean someone producing another first-hand view of his past antics, to balance the somewhat...uh...unbalanced view of them that he presents? :-) I meant that fall of the World Teacher Seminar and RWC had to be a difficult thing to endure, esp. coming after Mahesh's denunciation of him in Iowa court. It's amazing that none of the video has been leaked yet, but that's really just a matter of converting the old analog video to digital and we could have them up on YouTube quickly thereafter. The pathology of supposed higher states of consciousness - meditative disease - is a new field really, and I think video documentation could go a long way to helping jumpstart that field, potentially preventing suffering from faux meditative lineages like Mahesh Co. It IS fascinating how the I'm enlightened...adore me meme keeps coming up in and around the TMO. Gemma was essentially running the same number back in Fiuggi. She was having some intermittent flashes of what she assumed was CC, as were several others of us. Most of us wisely kept it to ourselves; she started holding court and counseling others on how they could get as enlightened as she was just by hanging around with her and basking in her darshan. Sound familiar? :-) Very much so. It's a pattern I've been literally observing for decades, and it clearly is a samsaric pattern. What's interesting to me is that both G. and RWC became devout Catholics after this. Now there's a past life history that would likely be very interesting. I wonder if Robin has had any glimpses of a previous connection. They tangibly felt as if they were made for each other. But maybe he's explained and I missed it. That's quite possible because as I've said often, I don't find the guy interesting enough to read what he writes, much less interact with him. The only thing that fascinates me about him is how many suckers flocked around him back in the day, and how many still do. As I've suggested before, there is just no accounting for bad taste and low standards. :-) Well, it's the principle of charm applied to sociology: RWC was and still is in many ways, a very charming man. I'll take your word for it, though I have seen no evidence of that here. :-) However I think this is a common mode of functioning in certain Axis II disorders and oddly a perfect match for some Me Decade types, who tended to already have similar traits, and thus self-select for such courses. Yup. The people drawn to such adore me so-called teachers very often are seeking the same role for themselves someday. Scratch a modern-day pretend teacher and you'll almost always find that they learned their trade from one or more other pretend teachers cut from the same pattern. I remember specifically the moment I knew his World Teacher Seminar was harming others. It was one of those late night chats with other CP's and one of the course participants revealed that he was gay. He wasn't just gay, he was addicted to cock. Any size, shape or form he could get his mouth on. Since RWC's opinion on homosexuality was unknown, he was greatly concerned that if this was known, he would be grilled on the stage, at the microphone and be declared demonic, thus forced to endure humiliation and persecution. Given how he reacted to my suggestion that he was acting a lot like a closet drag queen trying to seduce straight men with his modern-day adore me and praise me routine here, one suspects that the poor guy was right in keeping it hidden from Robin-ji. It also speaks volumes about Robin himself that the person who claimed to be able to see demons in other people was incapable of detecting something as simple and ordinary in one of their followers as being gay. The utter terror he felt was palpable and you could have heard a pin drop as he told his story. And similar to the Gemma story, others on these course were often worried about associating with potentially demonic people, either in a guilt by association/birds of a feather flock together kind of way, or as a form of psychic contagion. Well, from what I heard that is how the Canadian TM organization reacted to *her* once she went back home and continued holding court there. I heard -- although I can't ever be sure that it was true because she was on one side of Canada and I was on the other -- that she was banned from the local TM center for doing this. And we all know what happened to Robin when he started holding court, don't we? Isn't it fascinating that the first thing people who have been ostracized for being off the program themselves do when they form some kind of sub-cult is to set up a structure in their own organizations that mirrors that behavior? It's almost like the recurring situation of kids abused as children
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From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net snip ...I've been literally observing for decades, and it clearly is a samsaric pattern. ***so the two of you have been stalking MZ for decades, this is getting creepy. turquoiseb wrote: snip of what she assumed was CC, as were several others of us. ***Finally we understand the green with envy; you're only in CC, and MZ made it to UC. That clears things up.
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Yo King Babykins, Be careful with I was... stories, some on the forum might have actually been in Fiuggi. I don't remember you or Clint, or Einstein for that matter, on that course. I do remember a stunning brunette named Cowhig, although anyone could find all of that spending their whole life looking through the the FFL archives. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 7:03:08 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Dec 1, 2011, at 8:54 AM, turquoiseb wrote: That certainly looks like Gemma. She was on my TTC, where many considered *her* crazy as a loon because she kept going on about being enlightened. We were warned by the person in charge of our small Canadian group (I lived in Toronto at the time) to distance ourselves from her because she was in danger of being sent home, and we might be perceived as being like her. I didn't know her well enough to pay any attention to the advice, one way or another. Looks as if she found the perfect hubbie. Two drama queens united in loving bliss. :-) Isn't it fascinating that Mr. I Can Talk About Myself For Hours, No Matter How Boring Others May Find It has never felt the need to explain his supposed ability to see demons in others and/or expel them? One is tempted to think that not only is he trying to hide that aspect of his life, he's trying to pretend Vaj never met him to keep the subject from coming up, and thus having to explain it. Well, I try to be sensitive to the fact that this whole thing has to have been very traumatic for R. By this whole thing do you mean someone producing another first-hand view of his past antics, to balance the somewhat...uh...unbalanced view of them that he presents? :-) It's amazing that none of the video has been leaked yet, but that's really just a matter of converting the old analog video to digital and we could have them up on YouTube quickly thereafter. The pathology of supposed higher states of consciousness - meditative disease - is a new field really, and I think video documentation could go a long way to helping jumpstart that field, potentially preventing suffering from faux meditative lineages like Mahesh Co. It IS fascinating how the I'm enlightened...adore me meme keeps coming up in and around the TMO. Gemma was essentially running the same number back in Fiuggi. She was having some intermittent flashes of what she assumed was CC, as were several others of us. Most of us wisely kept it to ourselves; she started holding court and counseling others on how they could get as enlightened as she was just by hanging around with her and basking in her darshan. Sound familiar? :-) But maybe he's explained and I missed it. That's quite possible because as I've said often, I don't find the guy interesting enough to read what he writes, much less interact with him. The only thing that fascinates me about him is how many suckers flocked around him back in the day, and how many still do. As I've suggested before, there is just no accounting for bad taste and low standards. :-) Well, it's the principle of charm applied to sociology: RWC was and still is in many ways, a very charming man. I'll take your word for it, though I have seen no evidence of that here. :-) However I think this is a common mode of functioning in certain Axis II disorders and oddly a perfect match for some Me Decade types, who tended to already have similar traits, and thus self-select for such courses. Yup. The people drawn to such adore me so-called teachers very often are seeking the same role for themselves someday. Scratch a modern-day pretend teacher and you'll almost always find that they learned their trade from one or more other pretend teachers cut from the same pattern. I remember specifically the moment I knew his World Teacher Seminar was harming others. It was one of those late night chats with other CP's and one of the course participants revealed that he was gay. He wasn't just gay, he was addicted to cock. Any size, shape or form he could get his mouth on. Since RWC's opinion on homosexuality was unknown, he was greatly concerned that if this was known, he would be grilled on the stage, at the microphone and be declared demonic, thus forced to endure humiliation and persecution. Given how he reacted to my suggestion that he was acting a lot like a closet drag queen trying to seduce straight men with his modern-day adore me and praise me routine here, one suspects that the poor guy was right in keeping it hidden from Robin-ji. It also speaks volumes about Robin himself that the person who claimed to be able to see demons in other people was incapable of detecting something as simple and ordinary
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On Dec 1, 2011, at 11:17 AM, turquoiseb wrote: If you were there, or knew friends who were, what *occasioned* him putting someone in the spotlight in front of a room full of other people and telling everyone that they were possessed by demons? What were the symptoms that he cited? Or was the mere fact that he declared someone possessed considered enough. That's a question probably best answered by the man himself. A lot of it allegedly hinged on his celestial perception but IMO much of it had do with whether or not the person was liked and capable of reciprocating that affection back to the ego of the interrogator. I use the word interrogator because not only did RWC confront students, but other students confronted each other. Often students would feel the ability to be vulnerable in a more private setting, with someone they knew, than on a stage in front dozens of people with a stranger from Canada. I guess what I'm wondering is if there was the same trend we have seen here. That is, that those deemed demonic committed the moral sin of not considering him as much of a legend as he considered himself, in his own mind? :-) I do believe that is part of the dynamic. I've seen the precise same dynamic occur in neoadvaita and satsang scenes.
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On Dec 1, 2011, at 11:29 AM, turquoiseb wrote: As a sidebar discussion, springboarding off of what you said above, do you know what the *timeline* was on each of them becoming Catholic? I honestly don't know. I haven't talked to G. in a couple of years but by the time I visited RWC in DC, he was already doing the Roman Catholic crossing mudra when he entered the room.
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On Dec 1, 2011, at 11:17 AM, turquoiseb wrote: The Chod connection is interesting. I've had a few experiences with that practice myself. Suffice it to say that those experiences cause me to laugh out loud at more New Agey concepts of what such things are all about. Here's the article: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/157251 Weird thing: I can easily visualize RWC and G. as Chodpas traipsing around on pilgrimage thru the Himalayas. WTF?
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Dear Robin: On Dec 1, 2011, at 12:03 PM, maskedzebra wrote: Dear Vaj, I also pooped in my diapers—I will try to get some photos for you. That's fine, I have plenty. Just for the record, I consider my Unity Consciousness to be a perfect hallucination. And the suffering and terror of coming out from under this preternatural illusion has been the theme of a significant number of my posts here at FFL. While I understand you believe you were in Unity Consciousness, I hope you understand, that is not my belief, nor is it the belief of anyone else I know. I was in a state, then, of mystical deceit—Had I now in my de- enlightened state of consciousness met myself then (the person in this photo: 1983) I would have done my best to persuade him he was deceived, and that his pursuit of good and evil in human beings was not only doomed to failure; it was itself a terrible misreading of the soul of a human being. And, as it turned out, I discovered over the course of the last 25 years, that problems I had (the motes in my eye) were more serious and multiple than any person who, I subjected to this metaphysical theatre of confrontation. Thanks for sharing that. I'll share your remarks with others who would be healed in hearing that - esp. the one person who came along that night to DC merely because of the sense of woundedness he was still carrying. In the metaphorical sense, then (since we are talking about a post- Monte Cassino universe) I was a great sinner. But you see, Vaj, I have spent so many hours explaining this before and after Unity Consciousness business, I am surprised that in posting what you have posted—causing some salivating in Amsterdam—you have tacitly implied that I would wish to defend my past from any criticism, and that there is a real continuum of my beliefs and actions stretching from 1983 to 2011. This is a misrepresentation of not only the facts, it is a misrepresentation of my entire philosophy of life. I don't believe I am implying any such thing. But I do understand you may be extra sensitive on some of these issues. I would expect that you'd at least be in some penitential mode to the point where you were relieved of your own sense of dread. Having said that, at least on the level of content, there are statements you've made and continue to make, that could only be uttered from a TB TM initiator who still was maintaining that true believer stance - at least in their mind, if not in their heart. Given your persistence, I'm almost forced to assume the latter (the heart) as well. If I were (and I believe I will be in some post-Catholic context) brought before a divine tribunal to answer for my past, I would not spend much time attempting to justify myself; I would rather fall upon the mercy of that court, since I am acutely aware of how blind and reckless I was—almost unrecognizably so from the moment before I 'slipped into Unity'. When I was in a very different state of consciousness, and when seemingly I was a very different kind of person. (If we are to judge by my behaviour.) I was, before 1976, a person who you could not have imagined acting the part of the enlightened man (that is, in the form in which I did —about which, by the way, I seemed to have no choice: but this choicelessness, it originated in culpable weaknesses and distortions in myself, therefore I am accountable for my actions even in this state of spontaneous right action. But you see, Vaj, I have done my penance these 25 years, and it has been as harrowing and dark and violent—against myself—as anything that I inflicted on others. Of course there was much to the whole enlightenment adventure which was magical and astonishing and beautiful. But at its core it was corrupt—because I did not know what infirmities in myself were being exploited—to make me go into Unity Consciousness—by the impulses of creative intelligence. So, I do not look back upon my actions at that time, with some sense of having done the will of God. I look back upon myself as having let my original LSD experience (1966) essentially determine the entire arc of my life for the next 20 years. But I have, under the inspiration of Thomas Aquinas—and resources made available to me which are part of the self-metapsychotherapy I have imposed upon myself—gone a very long ways to recovering from my romantic affair with the East and with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. What bothers me in the approach you are now applying to our conversation is the implication that I am, both personally and philosophically, in the same existential position that I was when this photo was taken. I would assume the opposite, for to not move in some direction, any direction, would require you to go against the grain of your own evolution and therefore against grain of the kosmos - or the will of god. It is only the odd
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In addition to long term stalking, it seems both these ladies are obsessed with MZ's sex life. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: snip snip I wonder if Robin has had any glimpses of a previous connection. ***King Baby, I think the readers might want to know if you (and the vajette) were this fascinated with Rama's sex life? From your latest performance, I'm guessing the two of you have never actually been punched, I'm thinking more likely you've been face slapped, more than a few times---by men, since you're the kind of girlie boys women would ignore. In my experience strong emotions. ***I guess you missed Emily link to you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oKyPE8P-d4 I tend to view strong, overpowering emotions, as almost... unstressing ***spoken like a true artist. ...As a sidebar discussion, springboarding off of what you said above, ***Now Vaj knows how Clint and Einstein must have felt. What I'm wondering, to be specific, is whether Gemma... ***KB, the fact she ignored you, doesn't actually mean she knew who you were. Were you and vajette out playing the day Daddy explained its not manly to talk about a woman behind her back, even if she is way above your station? I'm betting...Robin...reminds me of Gemma...in Fiuggi. ***Must have been quite the crush, who knows---she might have been flattered, until you actually said something. This is pure speculation on my part. Pretty much in the same ballpark as his or any other posters' speculations about us. ***You're not going to start crying again. I'd say the two of you should be ashamed, but of course you'd miss the irony. What I'm really enjoying about your latest alliance KB is imagining where you go from here; back to the Rama forum? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L0eJp7V2Zs Don't be afraid, I won't tell
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On Dec 1, 2011, at 1:10 PM, maskedzebra wrote: By the way to repeat, Vaj: You don't know the first thing about what the context was metaphysically inside one of those seminars; and you have not the least physical or mental notion of what it was like to transcend using Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's technique of Transcendental Meditation. You're starting the lying again Robin. You're wrong once again. Take two Hail Mary's and call me in the morning.
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Yo Vajette, This is how you write a screenplay. And yes, your wife is a.k.a. KB. From: whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 8:40:06 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife Yo, Loser, The old, Look its Haley's Comet! routine ain't working. Let's see if I can use my TM-Siddhi powers to reconstruct the scene, a day or two prior to your polaroid picture post: Vaj: Fuck! Shit! Vaj's wife: What's wrong honey? Vaj: The fourth person this week on FFL is saying I never learned or taught TM - bastards, I'd like t... Vaj's wife: Your-medication-is-on-the-bathroom-counter-upstairs (for the millionth time)! Vaj: fuck...What?! Vaj's wife: (sigh) Nothing!! When are you going to get rid of that crazy idea that the only time anyone is going to take your Buddhist teachings seriously, is if you say you used to be a TM Teacher? Just say, OK what's the big deal I didn't get within a mile of ever knowing TM, but here's why Buddhism will bring you salvation... Vaj: Yeah, it *would* make my family happy...After all of their ties to HHDL, it is like a knife through their hearts every time I fake it with TM. But I HAVE TO, even though the last time over at my dad's, I mentioned that Intro Lecture I snuck into back in '74, and he sent me out to his meditation cave in the backyard for three frikkin' hours!! Sitting on those old stained magazines, its gross! Vaj's wife: ...I know, you put up with a lot from him (rolls her eyes)...Anyway it wouldn't hurt for you to ditch the bathrobe and look for work today... Vaj: huh?...Wait! I just found an old box of polaroids! I think I figured out to kill two birds with one stone...this'll distract 'em...bastards... Vaj's wife: Bills are due! Vaj: Look!!! Dearest, we've discussed this many times. This my life's work! I am saving the world! Tibet is for everyone! His Holiness... Vaj's wife: OK...OK...OK...O...K... (whispered to her sister on the phone: I hate it when he gets like this) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Nov 30, 2011, at 8:13 PM, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Paths, Teachers and Cults/HHRWCFFia.jpg Uploaded by : vajradhatu108 vajradhatu@... Description : HH RWC with entourage and Guru Dev wannabe umbrella, Fairfield, IA. � Vajranatha 1983 Here's a picture I took outside of a church in FF with my old SX-70 Polaroid, 1st gen. I forget what it was but I believe it is some sort of pronouncement that HH Robin Carlsen is holding in the picture, while Saint Gemma II looks on concerned about the actions we're about to undertake, probably marching onto the MIU campus or some such activity. Since his psychotic break kundalini psychosis episode TM- style enlightenment in Switzerland his sattvic countenance was often protected from the rajasic rays of the sun by a sacred umbrella. Notice the nervous and tense vibe in the seminar students. This was a common vibe in the World Teacher Seminar because if you weren't about to do something quasi-illegal - marching onto private campuses, disrupting public lectures, etc. there was always the chance that you could be declared demonic if Robin and the seminar couldn't groove to your darshan (while standing in front of an audience, being drilled at a microphone, in a basement somewhere).
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Hey Robin: On Dec 1, 2011, at 2:20 PM, maskedzebra wrote: RESPONSE: Ah, I think you may have touched a nerve here, Vaj. Finally. If you are referring to Gary (and I hardly think it could be anyone else), then, yes, Gary was a faithful and generous person when it came to my seminars—I recall especially meeting with him and Marilynn in a Manhattan hotel after giving a seminar: that was our best contact ever. No, it wasn't. If I was I would have given some indication. When I went to extremes and started to turn on those I loved most— and then went over to the Catholic Church—Gary was nonplussed and felt betrayed—a very natural and appropriate response. He came to DC to attempt to resolve the issue of this destabilization of his world—based upon the breakup of the whole Robin Carlsen enterprise. He came armed with my astrology chart—as if in reading this to me he could get closure on this whole business by proving that my chart explained me. I resisted (as you know). I wish I could have been as unconfused and coherent—in some profound sense—as I feel that I am now in comparison to what I was then. And I ask you to pass on my sincere best wishes to Gary and his family. I have nothing but the most positive memories of him and Marilynn. Good people. I know there are others who, as you say are carrying the sense of woundedness. I wounded others; I wounded myself. But it is a very complex story and neither Gary's experience nor mine will be the last word on all this. Yours, maybe. In the metaphorical sense, then (since we are talking about a post- Monte Cassino universe) I was a great sinner. But you see, Vaj, I have spent so many hours explaining this before and after Unity Consciousness business, I am surprised that in posting what you have posted—causing some salivating in Amsterdam—you have tacitly implied that I would wish to defend my past from any criticism, and that there is a real continuum of my beliefs and actions stretching from 1983 to 2011. This is a misrepresentation of not only the facts, it is a misrepresentation of my entire philosophy of life. Vaj: I don't believe I am implying any such thing. But I do understand you may be extra sensitive on some of these issues. I would expect that you'd at least be in some penitential mode to the point where you were relieved of your own sense of dread. RESPONSE: Apart from attempting to provide some evidence for your claim to know me, what, pray tell, was the purpose of posting that photo? You guessed correctly the first time. I had to pick from several others and the other contender, from a private party, has you in the center on a hastily constructed throne, but also, perfectly poised and in crystal clear focus was your former attorney, VMc. It seemed harmless enough; but once you started commenting on the psychological state of the persons in the photo, once you began to interact with Barry, once you brought in names of persons who now have nothing to do with me, you were, surely you were, Vaj, linking my recent posts to myself in my past life such as to take something off the sting of my demand that you tell the truth. Well I was trying to place the picture in context. I feel it is important to convey an objective context of the situation. Now thinking back on it, that might have been the painting of SBS you were holding, no? Now don't try to psychologize me; you are a neophyte in this realm. And you still evince not a inkling of understanding or intuition such as to make me even consider you have any idea of the person that I am—or even the person that I was. It is all this Walter Mitty thing again—but in this instance, with a sense of revenging yourself. sigh.
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Hi Robin: On Dec 1, 2011, at 4:32 PM, maskedzebra wrote: Dear Vaj, When it comes to your death, ask that you might just die a little; ask if you can hold back something of yourself; that you don't want to go all the way. I say this because this certainly will be your first inclination when death comes on. I am only getting my inspiration from what St Francis called Sister Death: she awaits, Vaj. Why not make things easier on her, so she doesn't have to make you go through something which would make you wish you had taken the cue from that Canadian guy? Death; think about it, Vaj; because there you will really be on your own, and you will realize that you have not exactly made your actions here at FFL a preparation for that moment. It's coming. It's coming for all of us. What do you think the verdict's going to be? in the consensus of Sal, Barry, and yourself? Or in the consensus of almost everyone else here at FFL and all the good angels to boot. Wouldn't it make sense to try dying out before you die R.? No I'm not trying to convince you to commit suicide. Not even die daily as Yeshua advised…but at least try it out. You seem to misunderstand me, Vaj: I am not writing here at FFL to defend my past actions as the man in Unity Consciousness. I am here to work out my salvation—if I can use what was once a literal fact but which now must now be a metaphor. Posting at FFL has done a lot of good for me in this endeavour. I wish the same for yourself. But just look at what you chose to select out from my last two posts—conspicuously ignoring all the points that would really make some demand upon yourself. Preferring instead to quote passages which do not bear upon the essential point of our discussion. And to which you make—consistently, unfailingly—responses which are of no purport. IOW, I'm not playing the game you want me to play. If you want to advance this conversation to a just and final resolution, you must risk something you have never thought to bring in, Vaj: your sincerity. This you eschew—and I think out of a most insidious timidity and fantastical compulsion. But hey! I don't know anything here, Vaj: and guess what? I would just as soon discover I was magnificently wrong in everything I have said about you, as to know, and have it proven to me, that everything I have said about you is correct. Do you realize, dear Vaj, you have not once attempted to defend yourself on the grounds which I have challenged you? Why not just shut this baby down, Vaj—Oh, you want to go another round, do you? Well, know this, Vaj: This is not a fair fight. You are being pummelled. But the alarming thing is *you don't feel the pain*. Must I understand you can even lie your heart out of its rightful experience? Because if you were in touch with any ultimate truth, Vaj, you would see that I am working on behalf of your true self. How's that for a little Canadian self-righteous obnoxiousness? Typical? Well, I am alas quixotic in my sincerity—my irony serves—at least I hope it does—my love. I suspect you have a lot more irony in store for you - at least from my POV. Now shut the fuck up, Vaj, and call this one off. It is not a fair fight. With Curtis, that was something different. Learn from him. Study his responses to me. That said, by cracky I hope I am as deceived as I think I am undeceived about you, Vaj. Do you realize what a thrill it would be for me for you to provide *just one iota of proof* of a single claim you have made about TM, Maharishi, and me? Maybe Alanis could write a song about it? That would be a riot, picking up the pieces after that. I think it cruel of you to deprive all of us—well, nearly all of us—at FFL of this opportunity to be disabused of our false and unjust interpretation of your behaviour. Well, I am going to be hoping for the Dream Team Eagles tonight when they face those Pete Carroll Seahawks. The Patriots really gave their confidence a licking last Sunday. Did you see that? Now tell me, is LSU or is Alabama going to win it all this year? You need to watch Letterman, Vaj. Hold it! Check your motive in wanting to answer this. It is up to my motive in laying down my challenge to you, Vaj? Think about this carefully; a perfunctory, costing-you-nothing-of-your-soul response won't do. It might look purty on your computer screen before it gets posted, but once exposed to reality the whole universe will judge it. Stop bringing in names—even slyly using initials—of persons who have nothing to do with me. You are violating their privacy, Vaj. This is the height of moral gaucheness. No, writing their entire names would be gauche R. See how Ted faced Sylvia's parents after she committed suicide? That, Vaj, was the gold standard in being real. I quoted him as an example for you. (And I quoted his personal review of Pinter for Barry the
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On 12/01/2011 03:51 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: The photo seems to have been removed. Know anything about that? Not to worry, the're all in the CIA files from where they have been copied and published here. No one should worry. You can't really tell who is in that blurry picture anyway. Could be anybody.
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Jim, I love it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyI1gxQU17Ifeature=related From: whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 5:34:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife heheh - Bob, truly inspired by the idea of a screenplay, perhaps as an animated component of said holiday gift manual, I decided to finish the scene I began earlier, only this time Vaj's wife is indeed King Baby: Vaj: (staring a little too intensely at the computer screen) Fuck! Shit! KB: (dusting, in another room) What's wrong honey? Vaj: The fourth person this week on FFL is saying I never learned or taught TM - bastards, I'd like t... KB: Your-medication-is-on-the-bathroom-counter-upstairs (for the millionth time)! Vaj: fuck...What?! KB: (sigh) Nothing!! (drops duster, stands up, arms akimbo, apron on) When are you going to get rid of that crazy idea that the only time anyone is going to take your Buddhist teachings seriously, is if you say you used to be a TM Teacher? Just say, OK what's the big deal I didn't get within a mile of ever knowing TM, but here's why Buddhism will bring you salvation... Vaj: (yelling over his shoulder, a cold Mountain Dew and a few loose mms next to his PC)Yeah, it *would* make my family happy...After all of their ties to HHDL, it is like a knife through their hearts every time I fake it with TM. But I HAVE TO, even though the last time over at my dad's, I mentioned that Intro Lecture I snuck into back in '74, and he sent me out to his meditation cave in the backyard for three frikkin' hours!! Sitting on those old stained magazines, its gross! KB: ...I know, you put up with a lot from him (rolls her eyes)...Anyway it wouldn't hurt for you to ditch the bathrobe and look for work today... Vaj: huh?...Wait! I just found an old box of polaroids! I think I figured out how to kill two birds with one stone...this'll distract 'em...bastards... KB: Bills are due! Vaj: Look!!! Dearest, we've discussed this many times. This my life's work! I am saving the world! Tibet is for everyone! His Holiness... KB: OK...OK...OK...O...K... (whispered to her sister on the phone: I hate it when VJ gets like this) KB's sister: (split screen aka Pillow Talk) How long has it been since she, y'know...like...worked? KB: Don't ask. Don't. Ask. It's a wonder I can put food on the table. VJ's been *very* upset these days. So bitchy sometimes - that's my Opinion, anyway...So snide this morning after I had made omelettes and brioche for us, she says, Going out to the...`café' to do some...`writing'??, like my talent is lost on her...Hasn't she read my online masterpiece, Roadtrip Highway Travelin' Thang?? VJ *said* I was good...she always encourages me to continue with my new book... KB's sister: Know'wcha'mean... KB: fuck, cracked my nail, gotta go sis! KB's sister: toodles! call me - --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Yo Vajette, This is how you write a screenplay. And yes, your wife is a.k.a. KB. From: whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 8:40:06 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife Yo, Loser, The old, Look its Haley's Comet! routine ain't working. Let's see if I can use my TM-Siddhi powers to reconstruct the scene, a day or two prior to your polaroid picture post: Vaj: Fuck! Shit! Vaj's wife: What's wrong honey? Vaj: The fourth person this week on FFL is saying I never learned or taught TM - bastards, I'd like t... Vaj's wife: Your-medication-is-on-the-bathroom-counter-upstairs (for the millionth time)! Vaj: fuck...What?! Vaj's wife: (sigh) Nothing!! When are you going to get rid of that crazy idea that the only time anyone is going to take your Buddhist teachings seriously, is if you say you used to be a TM Teacher? Just say, OK what's the big deal I didn't get within a mile of ever knowing TM, but here's why Buddhism will bring you salvation... Vaj: Yeah, it *would* make my family happy...After all of their ties to HHDL, it is like a knife through their hearts every time I fake it with TM. But I HAVE TO, even though the last time over at my dad's, I mentioned that Intro Lecture I snuck into back in '74, and he sent me out to his meditation cave in the backyard for three frikkin' hours!! Sitting on those old stained magazines, its gross! Vaj's wife: ...I know, you put up with a lot from him (rolls her eyes)...Anyway it wouldn't hurt for you to ditch the bathrobe and look for work today... Vaj: huh?...Wait! I just found an old box of polaroids! I think I figured out to kill two birds with one stone...this'll distract 'em...bastards... Vaj's wife: Bills are due! Vaj: Look!!! Dearest, we've
