I have a long-time (30 + years) friend who channels
a being and I have had occasion to observe them very
closely. I use the plural pronoun to hide their sex
and to indicate the two of them, the human and the
channeled being, together. They make a truly
excellent living at it because they are able to
convince large numbers of folks of the reality and the
truth of their healing power--which is real enough for
the people who benefit. The placebo effect is
powerful and, in a sense, why not harness it in any
way we can?
I could be dead wrong, of course, and have been dead
wrong about countless things, but in my opinion what
is going on here is
1) embryonic witnessing misused or gone awry
2) very large (and exceedingly fragile) ego invested
in keeping things as they are
3) Huge control-freak type personality that is
constantly fed by the true believers that buy their
services
3) by this time, there's no way out since their living
depends on keeping up the charade
4) there's no way out because the thing has become the
reality in a sense, but a total break-down wouldn't
surprise me
Theirs is an extremely lonely life since no one can be
allowed to get close enough to them to see through the
charade.
--- dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A good point, and hopefully a springboard to an
interesting thread. I have always been nothing
short of *amazed* at the number of TMers who get
involved with channeling and spirit voices and
communicating with higher masters and the like,
given the STRONG stance Maharishi took against
these practices from Day One.
What will be interesting in the wake of his death
is whether there will be some revisionist history
on these practices as people start claiming to be
getting messages directly from Haharishi. The
he's talking to me thang is *going* to happen;
that's a given. The question is how it's going
to be handled by the larger TMO, or what is left
of it.
Will it be handled in the same way that
Maharishi's
equally strong teaching about the enlightened
being
not even having the *option* of reincarnation on
any relative plane, and now the teaching being
spread around by Bevan and King Tony that
Maharishi
himself is in heaven, where even the gods are
amazed by him?
Or will someone remember the original teachings
and
point them out, and suggest that the Wannabe
Emperor's
New Voices might not be coming from the source
they
think they're coming from?
Interesting point, the cat might be out of the bag.
Or is that
the 'genie out of the lamp' as you mention with Tony
example and also
these recent 'eperience' posts about Maharishi from
the dead (or the
road to Damascus).
Proly now to be a really good apostle you should
need to be hearing
from Maharishi right about now, before the pile on
gets too thick.
Will make for some great TMmovement theatre if not
else.
Jai Guru Dev,
-Doug in FF
As someone said recently, the jury is still out on
this one. I post, for the amusement of those who
have always thought that Maharishi's original
take
on listening to voices was correct, and as
edifi-
cation for those who think he was wrong, a
teaching
that showed up yesterday on another board in
response
to someone saying that her voices were telling
her
something and that everyone else should pay
attention
to it as the revealed message it really was:
When you hear a voice or have a thought to do or
think something in particular; once in a while do
the exact opposite and then observe if the voice
or 'thought' gets angry at you. That's how you can
tell that you are being manipulated by something
or someone outside of yourself.
The woman this advice was given to got
hysterically
angry and claimed at the top of her all-caps
screen
voice that everyone else, including her own
teacher
who had said these words, was WRONG, and that her
voices were correct. Most of the rest of us
considered
the case closed.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
dhamiltony2k5
dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Your quote from Patanjali is irrelevant in
this context.
The quote is evidently relevant only in that
it is a strong
comment and warning, from scripture.
Interesting distinction you make though about
this willing and
unwilling possession.
Are you experienced in the sense that you
practice it?
Thinking back on earlier TMmovement days we
didn't have much
directly
from Guru Dev in the way of quotes and readings.
Maharishi told
stories about Guru Dev. The one thing that was
given out though
was
a quote from Guru Dev on this subject of
spiritism. It was sort
of
foundational material for ruddering the
TMmovement in straight
and
narrow spiritual practice. That... dabbling in
spirits
