Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news......better eat organic....
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bluecabbagerose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And where does he say its a requirement for gaining enlightenment? He said it was a for more rapid growth, did he not? The article said rapid growth to higher states of consciousness. Okay then. So are you saying that higher states of consciousness have nothing to do with enlightenment? What's the relationship between higher states of consciouness and enlightenment? I really need to know! Are you missing the word rapid? For the majority of people, what is so rapid about TM other than as a belief system? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news......better eat organic....
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] P.S.: Lawson, I'm not saying you asked about no-self as a thought-stopper. As I said, I assume you did have a good reason. I'm really just applauding Jim's comment in general terms. I don't buy the no-self claims made about enlightenment. He,he,he, Hey Tom, someone's gonna be surprised, aren't they? And to Lawson, what do you think enlightenment is, an experience? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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on 10/21/05 11:16 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't buy the no-self claims made about enlightenment. He,he,he, Hey Tom, someone's gonna be surprised, aren't they? And to Lawson, what do you think enlightenment is, an experience? And if it is, who has it? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 10/21/05 11:16 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't buy the no-self claims made about enlightenment. He,he,he, Hey Tom, someone's gonna be surprised, aren't they? And to Lawson, what do you think enlightenment is, an experience? And if it is, who has it? No-body doesn't have the non-experience. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news......better eat organic....
--- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] P.S.: Lawson, I'm not saying you asked about no-self as a thought-stopper. As I said, I assume you did have a good reason. I'm really just applauding Jim's comment in general terms. I don't buy the no-self claims made about enlightenment. He,he,he, Hey Tom, someone's gonna be surprised, aren't they? Don't be foolish. Nobody is going to be surprised. Who said that? Who said that (and to whom)? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news......better eat organic....
A lot of those people are MUm students, not paying regular dome fees. I don't have a real good idea of how many town rus go, but I would guess it's not more than a couple hundred. Also, I'm fairly sure you can still do the 'reduced' fee of $30/month in exchange for some work. Sal On Oct 21, 2005, at 2:57 PM, johnlasher20002000 wrote: At 500 people paying $100 per month = $50,000 per month I'd say so.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news......better eat organic....
On Oct 20, 2005, at 8:57 AM, authfriend wrote: Or, they're the three money makers the TMO is pushing because MMY thinks they're the most important requirements for rapid growth of higher states of consciousness. So will you be moving into an east-west aligned apartment? I doubt he believes that--it's just more greed. No tradition of actual enlightenment that I am aware of requires special buildings. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 20, 2005, at 8:57 AM, authfriend wrote: Or, they're the three money makers the TMO is pushing because MMY thinks they're the most important requirements for rapid growth of higher states of consciousness. So will you be moving into an east-west aligned apartment? I doubt he believes that--it's just more greed. No tradition of actual enlightenment that I am aware of requires special buildings. Where the hell does MMY get this stuff from? I agree with you, there is absolutely no spiritual tradition in recorded history that links habitat shape and orientation with enlightenment. It's really goofball stuff. Enlightment contingent upon the shape and orientation of ones house! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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On Oct 20, 2005, at 10:09 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 20, 2005, at 8:57 AM, authfriend wrote: Or, they're the three money makers the TMO is pushing because MMY thinks they're the most important requirements for rapid growth of higher states of consciousness. So will you be moving into an east-west aligned apartment? I doubt he believes that--it's just more greed. No tradition of actual enlightenment that I am aware of requires special buildings. Where the hell does MMY get this stuff from? I agree with you, there is absolutely no spiritual tradition in recorded history that links habitat shape and orientation with enlightenment. It's really goofball stuff. Enlightment contingent upon the shape and orientation of ones house! Feng Shui? Nope, not a requirement for enlightenment--in fact Feng Shui will allow you to apply remedies to your existing home/land--not be required to buy a house from your guru or his contractors. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news......better eat organic....
--- bluecabbagerose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And where does he say its a requirement for gaining enlightenment? He said it was a for more rapid growth, did he not? The article said rapid growth to higher states of consciousness. Okay then. So are you saying that higher states of consciousness have nothing to do with enlightenment? What's the relationship between higher states of consciouness and enlightenment? I really need to know! Sam Ding Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 20, 2005, at 8:57 AM, authfriend wrote: Or, they're the three money makers the TMO is pushing because MMY thinks they're the most important requirements for rapid growth of higher states of consciousness. So will you be moving into an east-west aligned apartment? I doubt he believes that--it's just more greed. No tradition of actual enlightenment that I am aware of requires special buildings. Exactly. Has there been anyone who has become enlightened by moving into a SV building or eating organic? Give me a break! Has MMY said that there was. I can see why you guys get upset about everything MMY says: you constantly misread/mishear it. No, the problem is that we do hear very clearly...oh the maddness, THE MADDNESS! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly. Has there been anyone who has become enlightened by moving into a SV building or eating organic? Give me a break! Has MMY said that there was. I can see why you guys get upset about everything MMY says: you constantly misread/mishear it. No, the problem is that we do hear very clearly...oh the maddness, THE MADDNESS! Great. Can you please share these very clear quotes where MMYs (not his TBs) says SV is necessary for enlightenment? He may have said sv is required for enlightenment, but I don't recall it. It seems to me he talks about lessening negative influences. TBs can add all sorts of stuff to all sorts of things. Direct quotes please? Hmmm...I think you're right. SV to lessen neg influences, not the big E. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news......better eat organic....
On Oct 20, 2005, at 1:04 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 20, 2005, at 10:09 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 20, 2005, at 8:57 AM, authfriend wrote: snip Or, they're the three money makers the TMO is pushing because MMY thinks they're the most important requirements for rapid growth of higher states of consciousness. So will you be moving into an east-west aligned apartment? I doubt he believes that--it's just more greed. No tradition of actual enlightenment that I am aware of requires special buildings. Where the hell does MMY get this stuff from? I agree with you, there is absolutely no spiritual tradition in recorded history that links habitat shape and orientation with enlightenment. It's really goofball stuff. Enlightment contingent upon the shape and orientation of ones house! Feng Shui? Nope, not a requirement for enlightenment--in fact Feng Shui will allow you to apply remedies to your existing home/land--not be required to buy a house from your guru or his contractors. Feng Shui certainly links habitat shape and orientation with enlightenment, the comment I was responding to. For example, from one Web site: To observe the science and art of Feng Shui means to put oneself and one's physical placements into the 'right placement' in space and time in order to receive the beneficial flow of energy from the universe. At a more subtle level this means that if you are placing yourself into a situation whereby you can receive the beneficial flow of the universe then it means you are placing yourself into a position to receive the opportunity. When we are truly aligned with our Feng Shui we are aligned on all levels of our being. This means, physically, emotionally, socially, intellectually and spiritually aligned to the highest or best potential within our lives. http://www.fengshui.com.au/html_about/about_destiny.htm As to building a new house versus adapting an existing dwelling, you can do either with both Sthapatya Veda and Feng Shui; but in both cases better results are said to be obtained if you start from scratch. And note that the language used was requirements for RAPID growth of higher states of consciousness (emphasis added). It's not that you can't become enlightened without proper Vastu, but that proper Vastu *facilitates* enlightenment. Same with Feng Shui (or so they say). The idea of being in harmony with the environment through external as well as internal means is by no means unique to MMY, and there's usually a spiritual component to it, or at least there was originally. I was fortunate, the house I bought was already aligned to true north. Nonetheless we've done some geomantic alignments and the appropriate rituals for the place. And that's all I need. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
