Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US health system ranks last compared to other countries

2007-05-15 Thread Bhairitu
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 Just FYI, right before I went on Medicare
 in February of this year, my group health
 insurance premiums--single, no dependents--
 had been raised to $14,612 a year..
   
 Ouch !

 That's 
 
 $281 a week, hardly a little bit of money.
   
 So Medicare pays for you? How does that work?
 

 Complicated. Everyone over 65 who has paid
 into the system via their Social Security
 taxes is covered by Medicare automatically and
 (I think) completely for hospitalization; it
 will also, for a smallish premium, cover
 doctor's visits and outpatient stuff up to a
 point (for physicians who take Medicare), but
 most people need additional insurance (called
 Medigap) because there are always some out-
 of-pocket costs. Medigap policies are offered
 by private companies, but to specifications
 laid down by Medicare.

 You can now also get a private HMO plan through
 Medicare, which may or may not cost you less and
 may or may not give you the same service. Some
 are saying it's a scam, but I didn't take that
 option, so I'm not up on the details.

 Then there's prescription drug coverage, which
 until a year or so ago hadn't been covered at
 all. Now you can get a private policy if you're
 eligible for Medicare that covers up to $2,400
 per year with copayments; then you have to pay
 additional costs up to--I forget, $5,000 or
 something--at which point the policy takes over
 again. This is called the doughnut hole and
 is very bad for many people who have to take a
 lot of drugs or expensive drugs.

 The drug plan is also a boon to the drug companies
 because Medicare is prohibited from negotiating
 prices, and there are other big problems with it
 too complicated to go into.

 Even with all this, it's still considerably cheaper
 to be on Medicare. But it's getting more expensive
 to the government by the day, and something is going
 to have to be done to curb costs. Major policy
 mess.

   
 Of course, since I work freelance, I had
 to pay for all of it, no employer
 contribution, so it was higher than for most
 employees. But most freelancers have a
 terrible time getting *any* health insurance,
 and those who do pay a very substantial
 percentage of their income for it.
   
 I got it no problem as a freelancer and pay about 340 a
 month (cost: about $2 an hour).
 

 Depends on what state you're in and what kind of
 policy you want.
And how much deductible.  My policy is around $240 a month but then they 
add a 50% surcharge because I am overweight plus I have a $2500 
deductible.  Policies for self-employed people aren't as good as group 
policies either.  This is a crime but then most big business is run by 
organized crime anymore anyway.   My doctor had a fit over the 50% 
surcharge, he could see 10-15% but not 50%.   Once you get down to what 
weight they think you should be (within about 10 lbs) if you stay there 
or under for 6 months they'll drop the surcharge.

I think for this country we need to erase the blackboard and start over 
again.  It's way too screwed up to fix.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US health system ranks last compared to other countries

2007-05-15 Thread Bhairitu
To my knowledge it is not that much regulated at all.  In fact it is a 
free for all for privatized health care.  So called competition isn't 
working.  In fact privatization of many things that WERE once government 
regulated have proved to be a disaster.  We seem to have mafia run 
healthcare.


shempmcgurk wrote:
 The U.S. Health System is sick because it is a regulated monopoly.

 What we need is LESS government, not more.



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 http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/20070515/tpl-us-health-government-
   
 politics-
 
 10170b4.html

 More surprising UK ranking good, yet here we think we're in 
   
 crisis.
   
 We think France, for instance, is better looked after..

   
 I don't believe this report. In the States you pay a little bit of 
 money each week and you get a much faster, and better service.