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On Dec 20, 2009, at 7:22 PM, off_world_beings wrote: Several times angelic-like females have descended and made love to me in my sleep. Not joking. Its as real as it gets. The movie will not capture that. The feeling stays with you for days, weeks, and even for a lifetime you can recall it and it comes back. Very humbling feeling mixed with sweet love. Yes, but does she let you see the children? Children are for mortal humans like yourself for example. The rest of the universe does not indulge in that practice. You thought I meant physical children? LOL!
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On Dec 19, 2009, at 10:57 PM, off_world_beings wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Dec 19, 2009, at 4:00 PM, off_world_beings wrote: Oh ok, my bad. (sounds awful though -- like watching JaJa Binks in 3d :-) It was actually quite good. However if you are a conservative or a Republican, the jabs in it--several directly aimed at Bush Admin policies and some taken from Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld and Neocon way of thinking--will make you say things like Mike said. Well that shouldn't be a problem for me, seeing as how I was the first on FFL to support Obama. It was a very tantric movie in that it dealt well with inter-dimensional congress Several times angelic-like females have descended and made love to me in my sleep. Not joking. Its as real as it gets. The movie will not capture that. The feeling stays with you for days, weeks, and even for a lifetime you can recall it and it comes back. Very humbling feeling mixed with sweet love. Yes, but does she let you see the children? Buddhist and Shaivite yogis have actually perfected such interdimensional congress for the expansion of consciousness, but I think it's fair to say, not all such unions are necessarily evolutionary. But union with a yakshini is many times more intense than with a human. V Of the Sabbath of the Adepts In the black hours of earth, when the Christian superstition with fell blight withered most malignantly the peoples of Europe, when our own Holy Order was dispersed and the sanctity of its preceptories lay violate, there were yet found certain to hold Truth in their hearts, and, loving Light, to bear the Lamp of Virtue beneath the Cloak of Secrecy. And these at certain seasons went at night by ways open or hidden to heaths and mountains, and there dancing together, and with strange suppers and spells diverse, did call forth Him, whom the enemy called ignorantly Satan, and was in truth the Great God Pan, or Bacchus, or even that Baphomet whom the Templars worshipped secretly, and yet worship as in the VI° all Illustrious Knights of the Holy Order of Kadosch, all Dame Companions of the Holy Grail are taught to do, or BABALON the Beautiful, or even Zeus Apollo of the Greeks. And each when first inducted to the revel was made partner of that Incarnate One by the Consummation of the Rite of Marriage. Consider of this. VI Of Classical Fables The Ancients of every nation report their heroes to have been born of the marriage of Gods with mortals. As, Romulus and Remus begotten of the God Mars upon a vestal Virgin, Hercules of Jove, Buddha of Vishnu in the form of a white elephant with six tusks, Jesus of Jehovah upon a virgin, and many another. Even true Gods were born of mortal mothers, as Dionysius of Semele. Also they recount many loves of heaven for earth, Diana for Endymion, Zeus for Leda, Danae, Europa, and the rest; even Hades issued from his gloomy kingdom to ravish the maid Persephone. There are also loves of Gods for nymphs, Bacchus for the Ariadne, Zeus for Io, Pan for Syrinx; there is no end of these. And satyrs, fawns, centaurs, dryads, a thousand gracious tribes, leap lightly and lustfully through their legends. Again we have the loves of fairies for mankind, and the commerce of the Beni Elohim with the daughters of men; and yet again the marriage of Orpheus with Eurydice a nymph, and the fatal nets that Laura, Melusina, the Sirens, Lilith and many another cast for men. It is even said that to every Neophyte of the Order of A\A\ appeareth a demon in the form of a woman to pervert him; within Our own knowledge have not less than nine brethren been utterly cast out thereby. There are also vain loves, as that of Ixion for Hera, of Actaeon for Artemis. Consider of this. VII Of Certain Greek Rites Among the peoples of the Balkan Peninsula and especially the Greeks, beneath the bush of their false Christianity, is hidden the wheat of Demeter. And even as the Muslim trust to be united by death to the Hur al’ Ayn of Paradise, so do these others yet think that earthly marriage is but fornication, for that Death is a nuptial wherein the soul is united to that God or Goddess to whom on earth his lust aspired. Thus, even in the embraces of their lovers, their hearts were fixed on Artemis or on Aphrodite or on Ares or on Apollo, as the inner tendency urges and the intuition thereof proclaims. Consider of this. VIII Of Succubi and Incubi From all time the life of man has now and again overflowed, in sleep, without will, and only reflected itself dimly and fantastically by dream into his knowledge. Now since naught can be lost on any plane, but only changed in appearance, the inner substance of this life-stuff does indeed beget monsters in part material, which the doctors of the Middle Ages called Incubi or Succubi according as they performed the functions of male or female. These, too, begat children upon women; but not
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will make you say things like Mike said? What, predictable or Comparing it to *Star Wars* and *Dances With Wolves* or that I liked it? From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, December 19, 2009 7:25:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar On Dec 19, 2009, at 4:00 PM, off_world_beings wrote: Oh ok, my bad. (sounds awful though -- like watching JaJa Binks in 3d :-) It was actually quite good. However if you are a conservative or a Republican, the jabs in it--several directly aimed at Bush Admin policies and some taken from Bush-Cheney- Rumsfeld and Neocon way of thinking--will make you say things like Mike said. It was a very tantric movie in that it dealt well with inter-dimensional congress and the idea of interdependent origination as a web naturally connecting all sentience.
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On Dec 20, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Mike Dixon wrote: will make you say things like Mike said? What, predictable or Comparing it to *Star Wars* and *Dances With Wolves* or that I liked it? Predictable.
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Vaj, you didn't find Avatar predictable? It's the story of the American Indian all over again, greedy whites, stealing land from the much more intuned, peace loving, indiginous people. They did everything but give the Na'vi smallpox infested blankets. No blood for expensive minerals! From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, December 20, 2009 9:04:29 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar On Dec 20, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Mike Dixon wrote: will make you say things like Mike said? What, predictable or Comparing it to *Star Wars* and *Dances With Wolves* or that I liked it? Predictable .
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On Dec 20, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Mike Dixon wrote: Vaj, you didn't find Avatar predictable? It's the story of the American Indian all over again, greedy whites, stealing land from the much more intuned, peace loving, indiginous people. They did everything but give the Na'vi smallpox infested blankets. No blood for expensive minerals! I already knew the plot before I saw it so it's hard to say! I was responding more to predictable as a negative comment in terms of it being a pro-Green planetary culture vs. a more Conservative-Republican corporate war machine: Hollywood libs diss Republicans. What was your gut reaction to Colonel Quaritch's statements that the N'avi embrace tree-hugger crap and that what was necessary was a shock and awe campaign of pre-emptive action, as he fights terrorists with terror?
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Vaj wrote: On Dec 20, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Mike Dixon wrote: Vaj, you didn't find Avatar predictable? It's the story of the American Indian all over again, greedy whites, stealing land from the much more intuned, peace loving, indiginous people. They did everything but give the Na'vi smallpox infested blankets. No blood for expensive minerals! I already knew the plot before I saw it so it's hard to say! I was responding more to predictable as a negative comment in terms of it being a pro-Green planetary culture vs. a more Conservative-Republican corporate war machine: Hollywood libs diss Republicans. What was your gut reaction to Colonel Quaritch's statements that the N'avi embrace tree-hugger crap and that what was necessary was a shock and awe campaign of pre-emptive action, as he fights terrorists with terror? The usual business associate that likes to go see movies with me isn't big on this one either. Cameron is often long on hype and short on story. So far no one has said it will win a golden globe. I saw 2012 but Emmerich is humble compared to Cameron. I'll have to check to see if the schools are out all this week. If not I may go check it out otherwise I'll skip it until school is back in session if I still chose to go. BTW, 3D digital performances are as good the last day it is shown as the first because there is no film to scratch. That is unless some dumbshit kid hasn't thrown his drink at the screen and the theater hasn't cleaned it properly (or replaced it in some cases).
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On Dec 20, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Vaj wrote: On Dec 20, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Mike Dixon wrote: Vaj, you didn't find Avatar predictable? It's the story of the American Indian all over again, greedy whites, stealing land from the much more intuned, peace loving, indiginous people. They did everything but give the Na'vi smallpox infested blankets. No blood for expensive minerals! I already knew the plot before I saw it so it's hard to say! I was responding more to predictable as a negative comment in terms of it being a pro-Green planetary culture vs. a more Conservative-Republican corporate war machine: Hollywood libs diss Republicans. What was your gut reaction to Colonel Quaritch's statements that the N'avi embrace tree-hugger crap and that what was necessary was a shock and awe campaign of pre-emptive action, as he fights terrorists with terror? The usual business associate that likes to go see movies with me isn't big on this one either. Cameron is often long on hype and short on story. The story here is largely non-verbal, as much of the story is about an advanced spiritual technology, interfacing with a Brahman-like unified field, which is portrayed visually and which only needs to be briefly described verbally. An interesting aside, at the beginning of the previews where you're told to put on your 3D glasses, the theatre I saw it at opened with a 3D advert. by the US Air Force. It was very clearly targeted at kids and teens. The tagline is It's not science fiction: it's what we do every day; it's the United States Air Force. The hidden tagline is 'if you like video games and Sci-fi, you'll just love killing people with us, you've never have to see the blood. Sign up now!' I'm finding all movies for the last several years have cheesy military advertisements in with the previews. This was the first 3D one.
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On Dec 20, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Vaj wrote: An interesting aside, at the beginning of the previews where you're told to put on your 3D glasses, the theatre I saw it at opened with a 3D advert. by the US Air Force. It was very clearly targeted at kids and teens. The tagline is It's not science fiction: it's what we do every day; it's the United States Air Force. The hidden tagline is 'if you like video games and Sci-fi, you'll just love killing people with us, you've never have to see the blood. Sign up now!' I'm finding all movies for the last several years have cheesy military advertisements in with the previews. This was the first 3D one. http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123165646 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiB3vrhPDNs
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I guess it was more predictable than I imagined, but writing a story line with a statement like Col.Quaritch's comment is typical for Hollywood where everyone trips over themselves trying to prove they are more *sensitive and compassionate* than anybody else. I guess it's a guilt trip for playing *pretend* for a living. From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, December 20, 2009 9:44:45 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar On Dec 20, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Mike Dixon wrote: Vaj, you didn't find Avatar predictable? It's the story of the American Indian all over again, greedy whites, stealing land from the much more intuned, peace loving, indiginous people. They did everything but give the Na'vi smallpox infested blankets. No blood for expensive minerals! I already knew the plot before I saw it so it's hard to say! I was responding more to predictable as a negative comment in terms of it being a pro-Green planetary culture vs. a more Conservative- Republican corporate war machine: Hollywood libs diss Republicans. What was your gut reaction to Colonel Quaritch's statements that the N'avi embrace tree-hugger crap and that what was necessary was a shock and awe campaign of pre-emptive action, as he fights terrorists with terror?
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Vaj wrote: An interesting aside, at the beginning of the previews where you're told to put on your 3D glasses, the theatre I saw it at opened with a 3D advert. by the US Air Force. It was very clearly targeted at kids and teens. The tagline is It's not science fiction: it's what we do every day; it's the United States Air Force. The hidden tagline is 'if you like video games and Sci-fi, you'll just love killing people with us, you've never have to see the blood. Sign up now!' I'm finding all movies for the last several years have cheesy military advertisements in with the previews. This was the first 3D one. Depends on the theater. The one nearby doesn't show ads just movie trailers. The CineMark chain OTOH has way too many ads IMO including military ads.
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Don't get me wrong, I liked the film and would recommend it to anybody. I just found it *predictable* as if Cameron's favorite movies were Star Wars and Dances With Wolves. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, December 20, 2009 9:55:07 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar Vaj wrote: On Dec 20, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Mike Dixon wrote: Vaj, you didn't find Avatar predictable? It's the story of the American Indian all over again, greedy whites, stealing land from the much more intuned, peace loving, indiginous people. They did everything but give the Na'vi smallpox infested blankets. No blood for expensive minerals! I already knew the plot before I saw it so it's hard to say! I was responding more to predictable as a negative comment in terms of it being a pro-Green planetary culture vs. a more Conservative- Republican corporate war machine: Hollywood libs diss Republicans. What was your gut reaction to Colonel Quaritch's statements that the N'avi embrace tree-hugger crap and that what was necessary was a shock and awe campaign of pre-emptive action, as he fights terrorists with terror? The usual business associate that likes to go see movies with me isn't big on this one either. Cameron is often long on hype and short on story. So far no one has said it will win a golden globe. I saw 2012 but Emmerich is humble compared to Cameron. I'll have to check to see if the schools are out all this week. If not I may go check it out otherwise I'll skip it until school is back in session if I still chose to go. BTW, 3D digital performances are as good the last day it is shown as the first because there is no film to scratch. That is unless some dumbshit kid hasn't thrown his drink at the screen and the theater hasn't cleaned it properly (or replaced it in some cases).
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I had to wear special glasses to watch the movie in *3D*. From: off_world_beings no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, December 18, 2009 8:18:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ ... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote: I saw it last night at the 12:01 AM showing. It's a wonderful movie but very predictable. Kind of a *Star Wars/ Dances With Wolves* kind of movie. 3D is excellent and worth seeing. Mike: How does it compare to IMAX 3-D? Is it even better than that? I've seen 3 or 4 IMAX's in 3-D the past couple of years and I must say I was very impressed. Prior to that, I was only familiar with the 3-D technology from the '60s and I wasn't very impressed (I was more impressed with John Waters' Smellovision or Odorama, whatever it was he called it!). So if this is, as touted, a 3-D technology that is a quantum leap over even the IMAX 3-D, it must be incredible. By the way, I have already resigned myself to the expectation that the movie itself will not be so great. I wasn't a fan of Titanic at all, although impressed with what Cameron achieved with it (a great Cinderella story). So I'll go see Avatar just for the historical aspect of it. It is not 3d. That is a misnomer. They call it 3d because the graphic artist can spin an object around and add color, textures, shading like a sculptor, and then animate it (make it move around.) The effects are applied to a wireframe such as you see me spinning a simple version of the concept here, -- http://screencast. com/t/ZWE2ZmIzO -- but this is all that 3d means here. You do not get the impression that there are 3 dimensions such as in a IMAX movie where you wear special glasses that allow the eyes to see 2 very slightly different views of the same image just like in real life, which is what gives us our sense of 3d in real life. These movies are no less 3d than a painting by Carravagio 400 years ago, and if traditional animation artists were given as much time and money as these movies are given to create a 3d animation using only paint to create the shading and textures, the results would far exceed these highly expensive animations that are given the misnoer 3d. These movies take 3-4 years and 4 times as much as a traditional Disney animation such as Beauty and the Beast to make (which take about a year to make.) All I can say is the results are not worth it visually. If a director such as Cameron spent as much money and as much time on a traditional animation he would go down in history as one of the greatest visionary in animated cinema of the era, since tradtional artists given that amount of time and money would create something no-one has seen before, and would far surpass the visuals of these so-called 3d movies. There is no 3d in these movies. It is a flat screen and there is no 3d. no more 3d than any movie. It is all 2d. The only 3d is when you wear those special glasses, or there is a hologram. A hologram is somewhat 3d. An animated hologram would be the unltimate 3d animation. Everything else is pure 2d dimensional OffWorld
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Yes. From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, December 18, 2009 9:39:55 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar From:FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FairfieldLi f...@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of off_world_beings Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:18 PM To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar It is not 3d. That is a misnomer. They call it 3d because the graphic artist can spin an object around and add color, textures, shading like a sculptor, and then animate it (make it move around.) The effects are applied to a wireframe such as you see me spinning a simple version of the concept here, -- http://screencast. com/t/ZWE2ZmIzO -- but this is all that 3d means here. You do not get the impression that there are 3 dimensions such as in a IMAX movie where you wear special glasses that allow the eyes to see 2 very slightly different views of the same image just like in real life, which is what gives us our sense of 3d in real life. These movies are no less 3d than a painting by Carravagio 400 years ago, and if traditional animation artists were given as much time and money as these movies are given to create a 3d animation using only paint to create the shading and textures, the results would far exceed these highly expensive animations that are given the misnoer 3d. These movies take 3-4 years and 4 times as much as a traditional Disney animation such as Beauty and the Beast to make (which take about a year to make.) All I can say is the results are not worth it visually. If a director such as Cameron spent as much money and as much time on a traditional animation he would go down in history as one of the greatest visionary in animated cinema of the era, since tradtional artists given that amount of time and money would create something no-one has seen before, and would far surpass the visuals of these so-called 3d movies. There is no 3d in these movies. It is a flat screen and there is no 3d. no more 3d than any movie. It is all 2d. The only 3d is when you wear those special glasses, or there is a hologram. A hologram is somewhat 3d. An animated hologram would be the unltimate 3d animation. Everything else is pure 2d dimensional OffWorld So when you go to see this particular movie, do you wear special glasses?
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By the way, I think there are three different versions, One in 3D, another not in 3D and then the IMAX, which I'm not sure if it's a 3D version. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, December 19, 2009 8:40:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar Yes. From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit. com To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Fri, December 18, 2009 9:39:55 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar From:FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FairfieldLi f...@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of off_world_beings Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:18 PM To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar It is not 3d. That is a misnomer. They call it 3d because the graphic artist can spin an object around and add color, textures, shading like a sculptor, and then animate it (make it move around.) The effects are applied to a wireframe such as you see me spinning a simple version of the concept here, -- http://screencast. com/t/ZWE2ZmIzO -- but this is all that 3d means here. You do not get the impression that there are 3 dimensions such as in a IMAX movie where you wear special glasses that allow the eyes to see 2 very slightly different views of the same image just like in real life, which is what gives us our sense of 3d in real life. These movies are no less 3d than a painting by Carravagio 400 years ago, and if traditional animation artists were given as much time and money as these movies are given to create a 3d animation using only paint to create the shading and textures, the results would far exceed these highly expensive animations that are given the misnoer 3d. These movies take 3-4 years and 4 times as much as a traditional Disney animation such as Beauty and the Beast to make (which take about a year to make.) All I can say is the results are not worth it visually. If a director such as Cameron spent as much money and as much time on a traditional animation he would go down in history as one of the greatest visionary in animated cinema of the era, since tradtional artists given that amount of time and money would create something no-one has seen before, and would far surpass the visuals of these so-called 3d movies. There is no 3d in these movies. It is a flat screen and there is no 3d. no more 3d than any movie. It is all 2d. The only 3d is when you wear those special glasses, or there is a hologram. A hologram is somewhat 3d. An animated hologram would be the unltimate 3d animation. Everything else is pure 2d dimensional OffWorld So when you go to see this particular movie, do you wear special glasses?
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On Dec 19, 2009, at 4:00 PM, off_world_beings wrote: Oh ok, my bad. (sounds awful though -- like watching JaJa Binks in 3d :-) It was actually quite good. However if you are a conservative or a Republican, the jabs in it--several directly aimed at Bush Admin policies and some taken from Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld and Neocon way of thinking--will make you say things like Mike said. It was a very tantric movie in that it dealt well with inter-dimensional congress and the idea of interdependent origination as a web naturally connecting all sentience.
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Shemp, it's the first 3D movie I've seen in many years(maybe since the sixties), so I can't compare it to anything, but I was very impressed. It's like HD on steroids! I may go back and watch it again on IMAx, I chose not to view it on IMAX last night because the seating wasn't great, so I settled for regular 3D. From: ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@netscape.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, December 18, 2009 9:21:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote: I saw it last night at the 12:01 AM showing. It's a wonderful movie but very predictable. Kind of a *Star Wars/ Dances With Wolves* kind of movie. 3D is excellent and worth seeing. Mike: How does it compare to IMAX 3-D? Is it even better than that? I've seen 3 or 4 IMAX's in 3-D the past couple of years and I must say I was very impressed. Prior to that, I was only familiar with the 3-D technology from the '60s and I wasn't very impressed (I was more impressed with John Waters' Smellovision or Odorama, whatever it was he called it!). So if this is, as touted, a 3-D technology that is a quantum leap over even the IMAX 3-D, it must be incredible. By the way, I have already resigned myself to the expectation that the movie itself will not be so great. I wasn't a fan of Titanic at all, although impressed with what Cameron achieved with it (a great Cinderella story). So I'll go see Avatar just for the historical aspect of it.
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of off_world_beings Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:18 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning- Avatar It is not 3d. That is a misnomer. They call it 3d because the graphic artist can spin an object around and add color, textures, shading like a sculptor, and then animate it (make it move around.) The effects are applied to a wireframe such as you see me spinning a simple version of the concept here, -- http://screencast.com/t/ZWE2ZmIzO http://screencast.com/t/ZWE2ZmIzO -- but this is all that 3d means here. You do not get the impression that there are 3 dimensions such as in a IMAX movie where you wear special glasses that allow the eyes to see 2 very slightly different views of the same image just like in real life, which is what gives us our sense of 3d in real life. These movies are no less 3d than a painting by Carravagio 400 years ago, and if traditional animation artists were given as much time and money as these movies are given to create a 3d animation using only paint to create the shading and textures, the results would far exceed these highly expensive animations that are given the misnoer 3d. These movies take 3-4 years and 4 times as much as a traditional Disney animation such as Beauty and the Beast to make (which take about a year to make.) All I can say is the results are not worth it visually. If a director such as Cameron spent as much money and as much time on a traditional animation he would go down in history as one of the greatest visionary in animated cinema of the era, since tradtional artists given that amount of time and money would create something no-one has seen before, and would far surpass the visuals of these so-called 3d movies. There is no 3d in these movies. It is a flat screen and there is no 3d. no more 3d than any movie. It is all 2d. The only 3d is when you wear those special glasses, or there is a hologram. A hologram is somewhat 3d. An animated hologram would be the unltimate 3d animation. Everything else is pure 2d dimensional OffWorld So when you go to see this particular movie, do you wear special glasses?
