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p'raps you had best get the TM checked - if you are allowing something someone says to vex you, that TM can't be working too well then can it? From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 11:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain I'll try. Thank you for something different than SHOW ME, WHERE I DIDN'T BACK UP MY ACCUSATIONS, SHOW ME, SHOW ME! (which I did) That was starting to grate on me. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : practice what you preach first. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Understood. But fortunately for me I don't need a good or bad jyotish-ee to hep me understand myself. I have Nabby, Buck in the Dome, Dr. D aka Freemacncheesy, and Stevie who has apparently become Willy Tex's understudy to tell me all about myself. You're good people Michael. No worries. I'll do my share to bring you along. First we just tighten up on our attributions. In other words, when you make a statement, take a moment to see it corresponds to reality or is just some kind of emotional release. We'll get there good buddy. Maybe you rub elbows with different TM'ers than I did and than I do, but by FAR the vast majority of TM'ers I ever knew who were into jyotish were into it for two reasons - finding out what kind of good stuff was gone happen, and freaking out when they were told something bad was gonna happen and then scrambling around to buy whatever kind of nostrum was recommended to negate the bad karma. I did it too when I had my chart done, back in 2001. Used all the mantras Brent gave me and bought a big ass moonstone since I hadn't the cash for the size pearl I was supposed to get. Got it wrapped in silver and wore it night and day. Since I didn't die I suppose I could attribute that fact to the remedial measures I took. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain I don't see it as a matter of belief at all. It's more a question of the accuracy with which the chart is interpreted. There are of course bad astrologers as well as good ones. I have found astrology most useful as a tool for self-understanding. Predictions for the future I have found to be iffy at best. And like you I am rather skeptical about preventive measures. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Had one done once by Brent Becvar, the jyotish guy for the Chopra Center. Some of the info seemed credible, if you are willing to believe in sade sati which is what I was supposedly in at the time. It was sort of fitting event to the prevailing theory. Some of the other stuff was way off. I have heard many good things about Chakrapani, except for the few people I have spoken with who said he didn't do much for them. I find astrology is wonderful - for those who believe. My destiny, if I have one doesn't have shit to do with the alignment of the planets. So I wouldn't care what Chakrapani had to say about anything. The only thing jyotish had to offer that I was interested in when I was still somewhat of a foolish believer was the idea of preventive measures to prevent or negate one's karma. All of which are bullshit and don't work. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain MJ, I'm wondering if you have ever had your jyotish chart done by a competent astrologer. If not, you might be surprised at the results. I had mine done many years ago by Chakrapani, who is a noted LA astrologer. It was astonishing how well he had me pegged. It was very illuminating. I have had similar positive results from Western astrologers too. The cosmos stamps its unique signature on you at birth, I have no doubt about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : p'raps you had best get the TM checked - if you are allowing something someone says to vex you, that TM can't be working too well then can it? I keep reminding myself that if the women were doing this to Share we would be Mean Girls and picking on her but when you guys do it to Nabby and Steve you're just having a conversation, although you haven't called it that so far.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : p'raps you had best get the TM checked - if you are allowing something someone says to vex you, that TM can't be working too well then can it? On 7/5/2014 8:50 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I keep reminding myself that if the women were doing this to Share we would be Mean Girls and picking on her but when you guys do it to Nabby and Steve you're just having a conversation, although you haven't called it that so far. There's no question that MJ and Barry are mean to Nabby and Steve - just like the MGs. So, just for the record: /Barry sucks as a spiritual teacher and MJ sucks as an MG. /It's not a conversation, it's supposed to be a religious debate.
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I've never in my life called you a Mean Girl. From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 5, 2014 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : p'raps you had best get the TM checked - if you are allowing something someone says to vex you, that TM can't be working too well then can it? I keep reminding myself that if the women were doing this to Share we would be Mean Girls and picking on her but when you guys do it to Nabby and Steve you're just having a conversation, although you haven't called it that so far.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I've never in my life called you a Mean Girl. Thanks MJ, because I am not mean. I don't take any shit and have a hard time suffering fools, but other than that I'm pretty nice most of the time. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 5, 2014 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : p'raps you had best get the TM checked - if you are allowing something someone says to vex you, that TM can't be working too well then can it? I keep reminding myself that if the women were doing this to Share we would be Mean Girls and picking on her but when you guys do it to Nabby and Steve you're just having a conversation, although you haven't called it that so far.
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I sometimes get the impression that John wouldn't take a crap if the stars didn't say it was a good idea. :-) From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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MJ, I'm wondering if you have ever had your jyotish chart done by a competent astrologer. If not, you might be surprised at the results. I had mine done many years ago by Chakrapani, who is a noted LA astrologer. It was astonishing how well he had me pegged. It was very illuminating. I have had similar positive results from Western astrologers too. The cosmos stamps its unique signature on you at birth, I have no doubt about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? What's that got to do with astrology? No one has ever demonstrated a link between lunar phase and human emotions/events. Nor with any other astrological claims. I convert for evidence. Or that solar flares affect communication devices? There's money in predicting solar flares, can anyone do it with a star chart? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. There are no scientific aspects. I can't see how it makes any sense at all. And I used to know how to draw up horoscopes, except I did it the hard way with a slide rule and set of ephemeris. All I know is that the Earth isn't the centre of the solar system and I can't see why my chart is set at birth rather than any time before or after because the stars would be having the same effect - unless the planets are into symbolism I could sit here until doomsday picking holes in it but if it was unequivocally effective I wouldn't have to. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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Had one done once by Brent Becvar, the jyotish guy for the Chopra Center. Some of the info seemed credible, if you are willing to believe in sade sati which is what I was supposedly in at the time. It was sort of fitting event to the prevailing theory. Some of the other stuff was way off. I have heard many good things about Chakrapani, except for the few people I have spoken with who said he didn't do much for them. I find astrology is wonderful - for those who believe. My destiny, if I have one doesn't have shit to do with the alignment of the planets. So I wouldn't care what Chakrapani had to say about anything. The only thing jyotish had to offer that I was interested in when I was still somewhat of a foolish believer was the idea of preventive measures to prevent or negate one's karma. All of which are bullshit and don't work. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain MJ, I'm wondering if you have ever had your jyotish chart done by a competent astrologer. If not, you might be surprised at the results. I had mine done many years ago by Chakrapani, who is a noted LA astrologer. It was astonishing how well he had me pegged. It was very illuminating. I have had similar positive results from Western astrologers too. The cosmos stamps its unique signature on you at birth, I have no doubt about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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To quote the esteemed Scorpion-land citizen Sal, The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain MJ, I'm wondering if you have ever had your jyotish chart done by a competent astrologer. If not, you might be surprised at the results. I had mine done many years ago by Chakrapani, who is a noted LA astrologer. It was astonishing how well he had me pegged. It was very illuminating. I have had similar positive results from Western astrologers too. The cosmos stamps its unique signature on you at birth, I have no doubt about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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Michael slays: ... as we common folk in the South like to call it ... Since yer a Southern boy, how come you haven't taken Jesus into your heart like you shoulda? Instead you played with the hindoo demons and were shafted by the TMO. No doubt you were unique in that regard. Why won't you just get down on yer knees and pray Jesus for forgiveness. Yer still playing with the demons here on FFL and you don't want to admit it to yerself. We could, of course, send a few yer way. Got demon?
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I don't see it as a matter of belief at all. It's more a question of the accuracy with which the chart is interpreted. There are of course bad astrologers as well as good ones. I have found astrology most useful as a tool for self-understanding. Predictions for the future I have found to be iffy at best. And like you I am rather skeptical about preventive measures. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Had one done once by Brent Becvar, the jyotish guy for the Chopra Center. Some of the info seemed credible, if you are willing to believe in sade sati which is what I was supposedly in at the time. It was sort of fitting event to the prevailing theory. Some of the other stuff was way off. I have heard many good things about Chakrapani, except for the few people I have spoken with who said he didn't do much for them. I find astrology is wonderful - for those who believe. My destiny, if I have one doesn't have shit to do with the alignment of the planets. So I wouldn't care what Chakrapani had to say about anything. The only thing jyotish had to offer that I was interested in when I was still somewhat of a foolish believer was the idea of preventive measures to prevent or negate one's karma. All of which are bullshit and don't work. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain MJ, I'm wondering if you have ever had your jyotish chart done by a competent astrologer. If not, you might be surprised at the results. I had mine done many years ago by Chakrapani, who is a noted LA astrologer. It was astonishing how well he had me pegged. It was very illuminating. I have had similar positive results from Western astrologers too. The cosmos stamps its unique signature on you at birth, I have no doubt about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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salyavin, are you really asking me what does the moon and its affects have to do with jyotish?! Plus, I think there is research indicating that violence increases at the full moon. My point is that we recognize that the moon affects human behavior so why not the other planets? On Friday, July 4, 2014 9:31 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? What's that got to do with astrology? No one has ever demonstrated a link between lunar phase and human emotions/events. Nor with any other astrological claims. I convert for evidence. Or that solar flares affect communication devices? There's money in predicting solar flares, can anyone do it with a star chart? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. There are no scientific aspects. I can't see how it makes any sense at all. And I used to know how to draw up horoscopes, except I did it the hard way with a slide rule and set of ephemeris. All I know is that the Earth isn't the centre of the solar system and I can't see why my chart is set at birth rather than any time before or after because the stars would be having the same effect - unless the planets are into symbolism I could sit here until doomsday picking holes in it but if it was unequivocally effective I wouldn't have to. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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according to the folks down here, it don't matter what you do in life, as long as you sincerely give yourself over to Jay-sus before you die. If you do that, God will forgive ALL your sins and you get a plum spot in heaven. That's what my cousin by marriage Bobby did, he who figured so prominently in my story Fat Bitch Doughnuts. As my mother once said of him The Devil ain't got no better servant than Bobby! She said that based mainly on his penchant for cussing, and as momma called it, bad cussing - meaning taking the Lord's name in vain and using the f-word. Momma takes a very dim view of cussing and somehow believes that bad cussing is a sign of influence of the Old Scratch. When she said that about Bobby being the Devil's servant, I pointed out to her that our other cousin Tommy and my own brother, Momma's oldest son cusses everyday as bad or worse than Bobby. She was silent for about 30 seconds until she said Well, I pray for all of 'em ever day. Two weeks before he died, Bobby accepted Jesus and Momma was satisfied he went to heaven as a result. I think about it sometimes. I think it would be a fine thing to be in heaven since Marshy and Company won't be there, them bein' Hindus and all and not believing in Jay-sus. I reckon Marshy is someplace else, maybe schmoozing with Hitler whom he admired in life. From: emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain Michael slays: ... as we common folk in the South like to call it ... Since yer a Southern boy, how come you haven't taken Jesus into your heart like you shoulda? Instead you played with the hindoo demons and were shafted by the TMO. No doubt you were unique in that regard. Why won't you just get down on yer knees and pray Jesus for forgiveness. Yer still playing with the demons here on FFL and you don't want to admit it to yerself. We could, of course, send a few yer way. Got demon?
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Understood. But fortunately for me I don't need a good or bad jyotish-ee to hep me understand myself. I have Nabby, Buck in the Dome, Dr. D aka Freemacncheesy, and Stevie who has apparently become Willy Tex's understudy to tell me all about myself. Maybe you rub elbows with different TM'ers than I did and than I do, but by FAR the vast majority of TM'ers I ever knew who were into jyotish were into it for two reasons - finding out what kind of good stuff was gone happen, and freaking out when they were told something bad was gonna happen and then scrambling around to buy whatever kind of nostrum was recommended to negate the bad karma. I did it too when I had my chart done, back in 2001. Used all the mantras Brent gave me and bought a big ass moonstone since I hadn't the cash for the size pearl I was supposed to get. Got it wrapped in silver and wore it night and day. Since I didn't die I suppose I could attribute that fact to the remedial measures I took. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain I don't see it as a matter of belief at all. It's more a question of the accuracy with which the chart is interpreted. There are of course bad astrologers as well as good ones. I have found astrology most useful as a tool for self-understanding. Predictions for the future I have found to be iffy at best. And like you I am rather skeptical about preventive measures. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Had one done once by Brent Becvar, the jyotish guy for the Chopra Center. Some of the info seemed credible, if you are willing to believe in sade sati which is what I was supposedly in at the time. It was sort of fitting event to the prevailing theory. Some of the other stuff was way off. I have heard many good things about Chakrapani, except for the few people I have spoken with who said he didn't do much for them. I find astrology is wonderful - for those who believe. My destiny, if I have one doesn't have shit to do with the alignment of the planets. So I wouldn't care what Chakrapani had to say about anything. The only thing jyotish had to offer that I was interested in when I was still somewhat of a foolish believer was the idea of preventive measures to prevent or negate one's karma. All of which are bullshit and don't work. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain MJ, I'm wondering if you have ever had your jyotish chart done by a competent astrologer. If not, you might be surprised at the results. I had mine done many years ago by Chakrapani, who is a noted LA astrologer. It was astonishing how well he had me pegged. It was very illuminating. I have had similar positive results from Western astrologers too. The cosmos stamps its unique signature on you at birth, I have no doubt about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you really asking me what does the moon and its affects have to do with jyotish?! Plus, I think there is research indicating that violence increases at the full moon. My point is that we recognize that the moon affects human behavior so why not the other planets? The moon doesn't affect human behaviour, it's a myth. And even if it did it would be due to it's proximity and gravitational effects. The other planets are so far away there is a larger pull from lorries going past your house. On Friday, July 4, 2014 9:31 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? What's that got to do with astrology? No one has ever demonstrated a link between lunar phase and human emotions/events. Nor with any other astrological claims. I convert for evidence. Or that solar flares affect communication devices? There's money in predicting solar flares, can anyone do it with a star chart? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. There are no scientific aspects. I can't see how it makes any sense at all. And I used to know how to draw up horoscopes, except I did it the hard way with a slide rule and set of ephemeris. All I know is that the Earth isn't the centre of the solar system and I can't see why my chart is set at birth rather than any time before or after because the stars would be having the same effect - unless the planets are into symbolism I could sit here until doomsday picking holes in it but if it was unequivocally effective I wouldn't have to. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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More likely the planets were used in astrology as crude time markers for cycles in nature. For instance there has been research into recurring 80 cycles in society which have occurred over centuries. The ancients wanted to know when droughts hence famine were likely to occur. On 07/04/2014 08:40 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you really asking me what does the moon and its affects have to do with jyotish?! Plus, I think there is research indicating that violence increases at the full moon. My point is that we recognize that the moon affects human behavior so why not the other planets? The moon doesn't affect human behaviour, it's a myth. And even if it did it would be due to it's proximity and gravitational effects. The other planets are so far away there is a larger pull from lorries going past your house. On Friday, July 4, 2014 9:31 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? What's that got to do with astrology? No one has ever demonstrated a link between lunar phase and human emotions/events. Nor with any other astrological claims. I convert for evidence. Or that solar flares affect communication devices? There's money in predicting solar flares, can anyone do it with a star chart? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. There are no scientific aspects. I can't see how it makes any sense at all. And I used to know how to draw up horoscopes, except I did it the hard way with a slide rule and set of ephemeris. All I know is that the Earth isn't the centre of the solar system and I can't see why my chart is set at birth rather than any time before or after because the stars would be having the same effect - unless the planets are into symbolism I could sit here until doomsday picking holes in it but if it was unequivocally effective I wouldn't have to. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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I never bought any of that ward off misfortune stuff. It was obviously a waste of money. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Understood. But fortunately for me I don't need a good or bad jyotish-ee to hep me understand myself. I have Nabby, Buck in the Dome, Dr. D aka Freemacncheesy, and Stevie who has apparently become Willy Tex's understudy to tell me all about myself. Maybe you rub elbows with different TM'ers than I did and than I do, but by FAR the vast majority of TM'ers I ever knew who were into jyotish were into it for two reasons - finding out what kind of good stuff was gone happen, and freaking out when they were told something bad was gonna happen and then scrambling around to buy whatever kind of nostrum was recommended to negate the bad karma. I did it too when I had my chart done, back in 2001. Used all the mantras Brent gave me and bought a big ass moonstone since I hadn't the cash for the size pearl I was supposed to get. Got it wrapped in silver and wore it night and day. Since I didn't die I suppose I could attribute that fact to the remedial measures I took. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain I don't see it as a matter of belief at all. It's more a question of the accuracy with which the chart is interpreted. There are of course bad astrologers as well as good ones. I have found astrology most useful as a tool for self-understanding. Predictions for the future I have found to be iffy at best. And like you I am rather skeptical about preventive measures. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Had one done once by Brent Becvar, the jyotish guy for the Chopra Center. Some of the info seemed credible, if you are willing to believe in sade sati which is what I was supposedly in at the time. It was sort of fitting event to the prevailing theory. Some of the other stuff was way off. I have heard many good things about Chakrapani, except for the few people I have spoken with who said he didn't do much for them. I find astrology is wonderful - for those who believe. My destiny, if I have one doesn't have shit to do with the alignment of the planets. So I wouldn't care what Chakrapani had to say about anything. The only thing jyotish had to offer that I was interested in when I was still somewhat of a foolish believer was the idea of preventive measures to prevent or negate one's karma. All of which are bullshit and don't work. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain MJ, I'm wondering if you have ever had your jyotish chart done by a competent astrologer. If not, you might be surprised at the results. I had mine done many years ago by Chakrapani, who is a noted LA astrologer. It was astonishing how well he had me pegged. It was very illuminating. I have had similar positive results from Western astrologers too. The cosmos stamps its unique signature on you at birth, I have no doubt about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter
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On 7/4/2014 9:31 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? What's that got to do with astrology? No one has ever demonstrated a link between lunar phase and human emotions/events. Nor with any other astrological claims. I convert for evidence. In a previous post didn't you indicate that you believed that thoughts could cause change in the physical world? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? There's money in predicting solar flares, can anyone do it with a star chart? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. There are no scientific aspects. I can't see how it makes any sense at all. And I used to know how to draw up horoscopes, except I did it the hard way with a slide rule and set of ephemeris. All I know is that the Earth isn't the centre of the solar system and I can't see why my chart is set at birth rather than any time before or after because the stars would be having the same effect - unless the planets are into symbolism I could sit here until doomsday picking holes in it but if it was unequivocally effective I wouldn't have to. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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On 7/4/2014 9:45 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Michael slays: ... as we common folk in the South like to call it ... Since yer a Southern boy, how come you haven't taken Jesus into your heart like you shoulda? Instead you played with the hindoo demons and were shafted by the TMO. No doubt you were unique in that regard. Why won't you just get down on yer knees and pray Jesus for forgiveness. Yer still playing with the demons here on FFL and you don't want to admit it to yerself. We could, of course, send a few yer way. Got demon? The klan murdered people all over the south, but the TMO is MJ's enemy. Go figure.
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MJ, Jyotish is more practical than you think. For example, what do you think will happen if the Sun didn't rise tomorrow? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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On 7/4/2014 9:49 AM, feste37 wrote: I don't see it as a matter of belief at all. It's more a question of the accuracy with which the chart is interpreted... Noting the fact that the ancient Indians invented numerals, the zero, and the naught, it is not surprising that they may have invented astronomy also. Certainly, the readers of the Indian Brihat Samhita, perhaps the world's oldest self-help manual, think this is so. It is a fact needing no further proof that /the first sight of another person's face can determine the outcome of an entire day. / However, we should all pay very careful heed to the prediction in the Brihat: /'If a man or woman is seriously ill and his spouse's face looks shinning and bright, he or she is sure to die'. / However, if this fellow is not seriously mistaken, according to a recent reading by Rita using Parashara's Light, in exactly one more incarnation, WillyTex will bethe Prime Minister of India! Go figure. Titles of interest:: 'Stars of India' Recent travels in India. by Peter Holt Mainstream, 1998 'Astrology of the Seers' A modern classic describing general Indian Astrology. by David Frawley 'Beneath a Vedic Sky' One of the best books concerning Jyotish by a teacher of TM. Includes CD. by William Levacy
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Feste, Chakrapani has been called the jyotishi for the celebrities in LA. I've taken a course from him in Seattle once. He's very knowledgeable. I believe his success came primarily from Muktananda who requested for him to work in the USA. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : MJ, I'm wondering if you have ever had your jyotish chart done by a competent astrologer. If not, you might be surprised at the results. I had mine done many years ago by Chakrapani, who is a noted LA astrologer. It was astonishing how well he had me pegged. It was very illuminating. I have had similar positive results from Western astrologers too. The cosmos stamps its unique signature on you at birth, I have no doubt about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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On 7/4/2014 10:08 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: according to the folks down here, it don't matter what you do in life, as long as you sincerely give yourself over to Jay-sus before you die. If you do that, God will forgive ALL your sins and you get a plum spot in heaven. You are incorrect. According to most Christians in S.C. and in the South, you must REPENT - it's not enough to mouth the word Jay-sus before you die. When you repent you can be saved - once saved, always saved. Get a Bible and read it. Get some smarts and learn what you are talking about and then get back to us. Thanks. That's what my cousin by marriage Bobby did, he who figured so prominently in my story Fat Bitch Doughnuts. As my mother once said of him The Devil ain't got no better servant than Bobby! She said that based mainly on his penchant for cussing, and as momma called it, bad cussing - meaning taking the Lord's name in vain and using the f-word. Momma takes a very dim view of cussing and somehow believes that bad cussing is a sign of influence of the Old Scratch. When she said that about Bobby being the Devil's servant, I pointed out to her that our other cousin Tommy and my own brother, Momma's oldest son cusses everyday as bad or worse than Bobby. She was silent for about 30 seconds until she said Well, I pray for all of 'em ever day. Two weeks before he died, Bobby accepted Jesus and Momma was satisfied he went to heaven as a result. I think about it sometimes. I think it would be a fine thing to be in heaven since Marshy and Company won't be there, them bein' Hindus and all and not believing in Jay-sus. I reckon Marshy is someplace else, maybe schmoozing with Hitler whom he admired in life. *From:* emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 4, 2014 10:45 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain Michael slays: ... as we common folk in the South like to call it ... Since yer a Southern boy, how come you haven't taken Jesus into your heart like you shoulda? Instead you played with the hindoo demons and were shafted by the TMO. No doubt you were unique in that regard. Why won't you just get down on yer knees and pray Jesus for forgiveness. Yer still playing with the demons here on FFL and you don't want to admit it to yerself. We could, of course, send a few yer way. Got demon?
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : MJ, Jyotish is more practical than you think. For example, what do you think will happen if the Sun didn't rise tomorrow? Is that likely? Why would this make jyotish practical, the only way the sun won't rise is if the Earth stops spinning. Unless you're going to predict we would all die, but I could tell you that without any astro-software! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you really asking me what does the moon and its affects have to do with jyotish?! Plus, I think there is research indicating that violence increases at the full moon. My point is that we recognize that the moon affects human behavior so why not the other planets? On 7/4/2014 10:40 AM, salyavin808 wrote: The moon doesn't affect human behaviour, it's a myth. Well, it's settled then - gravity does not suck. Thanks And even if it did it would be due to it's proximity and gravitational effects. The other planets are so far away there is a larger pull from lorries going past your house. On Friday, July 4, 2014 9:31 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? What's that got to do with astrology? No one has ever demonstrated a link between lunar phase and human emotions/events. Nor with any other astrological claims. I convert for evidence. Or that solar flares affect communication devices? There's money in predicting solar flares, can anyone do it with a star chart? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. There are no scientific aspects. I can't see how it makes any sense at all. And I used to know how to draw up horoscopes, except I did it the hard way with a slide rule and set of ephemeris. All I know is that the Earth isn't the centre of the solar system and I can't see why my chart is set at birth rather than any time before or after because the stars would be having the same effect - unless the planets are into symbolism I could sit here until doomsday picking holes in it but if it was unequivocally effective I wouldn't have to.
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On 7/4/2014 11:03 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: More likely the planets were used in astrology as crude time markers for cycles in nature. For instance there has been research into recurring 80 cycles in society which have occurred over centuries. The ancients wanted to know when droughts hence famine were likely to occur. According to my Asrtro-physics teacher, astrology reveals the result of our past karma, expressed probably in terms of what we crudely call our planetary influences. Astrology reveals the consequence of our actions which we do not remember in this life and are untraceable in this birth, planets, therefore, indicate the results of previous karma and hence there is nothing like fate or destiny in its absolute sense controlling us. The future is a reflection of the past. The horoscope simply indicates the future. On 07/04/2014 08:40 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you really asking me what does the moon and its affects have to do with jyotish?! Plus, I think there is research indicating that violence increases at the full moon. My point is that we recognize that the moon affects human behavior so why not the other planets?
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salyavin, it's just common sense. The moon affects the tides. Our bodies are 80% water. Therefore, the moon must affect us, because we are a vertical body of water! On Friday, July 4, 2014 10:40 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you really asking me what does the moon and its affects have to do with jyotish?! Plus, I think there is research indicating that violence increases at the full moon. My point is that we recognize that the moon affects human behavior so why not the other planets? The moon doesn't affect human behaviour, it's a myth. And even if it did it would be due to it's proximity and gravitational effects. The other planets are so far away there is a larger pull from lorries going past your house. On Friday, July 4, 2014 9:31 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? What's that got to do with astrology? No one has ever demonstrated a link between lunar phase and human emotions/events. Nor with any other astrological claims. I convert for evidence. Or that solar flares affect communication devices? There's money in predicting solar flares, can anyone do it with a star chart? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. There are no scientific aspects. I can't see how it makes any sense at all. And I used to know how to draw up horoscopes, except I did it the hard way with a slide rule and set of ephemeris. All I know is that the Earth isn't the centre of the solar system and I can't see why my chart is set at birth rather than any time before or after because the stars would be having the same effect - unless the planets are into symbolism I could sit here until doomsday picking holes in it but if it was unequivocally effective I wouldn't have to. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, it's just common sense. The moon affects the tides. Our bodies are 80% water. Therefore, the moon must affect us, because we are a vertical body of water! That'll teach you not to trust common sense! The first problem is that the moon's gravitational effect on us is minimal due to our small size, it only works on large open bodies of water anyway not small things like our heads. What would water moving around in our heads do anyway? it won't be worse than bending over - not by a long shot - and that doesn't drive me crazy. But the whole argument would be moot if we had a measurable effect from any phase of the moon but we don't. On Friday, July 4, 2014 10:40 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you really asking me what does the moon and its affects have to do with jyotish?! Plus, I think there is research indicating that violence increases at the full moon. My point is that we recognize that the moon affects human behavior so why not the other planets? The moon doesn't affect human behaviour, it's a myth. And even if it did it would be due to it's proximity and gravitational effects. The other planets are so far away there is a larger pull from lorries going past your house. On Friday, July 4, 2014 9:31 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? What's that got to do with astrology? No one has ever demonstrated a link between lunar phase and human emotions/events. Nor with any other astrological claims. I convert for evidence. Or that solar flares affect communication devices? There's money in predicting solar flares, can anyone do it with a star chart? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. There are no scientific aspects. I can't see how it makes any sense at all. And I used to know how to draw up horoscopes, except I did it the hard way with a slide rule and set of ephemeris. All I know is that the Earth isn't the centre of the solar system and I can't see why my chart is set at birth rather than any time before or after because the stars would be having the same effect - unless the planets are into symbolism I could sit here until doomsday picking holes in it but if it was unequivocally effective I wouldn't have to. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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Since when have you felt the water in your body sloshing about? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, it's just common sense. The moon affects the tides. Our bodies are 80% water. Therefore, the moon must affect us, because we are a vertical body of water! On Friday, July 4, 2014 10:40 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you really asking me what does the moon and its affects have to do with jyotish?! Plus, I think there is research indicating that violence increases at the full moon. My point is that we recognize that the moon affects human behavior so why not the other planets? The moon doesn't affect human behaviour, it's a myth. And even if it did it would be due to it's proximity and gravitational effects. The other planets are so far away there is a larger pull from lorries going past your house. On Friday, July 4, 2014 9:31 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? What's that got to do with astrology? No one has ever demonstrated a link between lunar phase and human emotions/events. Nor with any other astrological claims. I convert for evidence. Or that solar flares affect communication devices? There's money in predicting solar flares, can anyone do it with a star chart? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. There are no scientific aspects. I can't see how it makes any sense at all. And I used to know how to draw up horoscopes, except I did it the hard way with a slide rule and set of ephemeris. All I know is that the Earth isn't the centre of the solar system and I can't see why my chart is set at birth rather than any time before or after because the stars would be having the same effect - unless the planets are into symbolism I could sit here until doomsday picking holes in it but if it was unequivocally effective I wouldn't have to. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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If it doesn't it won't have shit to do with jyotish or the (according to Marshy) lesser forms of astrology. From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain MJ, Jyotish is more practical than you think. For example, what do you think will happen if the Sun didn't rise tomorrow? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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Astrologer Chakrapani on Remedies, California and Swa... Chakrapani D. Ullal learned astrology at the feet of his father and grandfather, both renowned astrologers of Kerala state in south India. View on www.hinduismtoday.com Preview by Yahoo From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain MJ, Jyotish is more practical than you think. For example, what do you think will happen if the Sun didn't rise tomorrow? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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Incorrect! There is no evidence that Hitler accepted Jesus into his heart before he kilt hisself. But then, the TM Movement claims there is no evidence that long term TM can lead to suicide either so From: emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 1:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain So sorry Michael but Herr Schicklgrüber not only gets heaven but a fine seat in front of YVHV. All he had to do was ask Haysoos to forgive him for his sins - including the millions he fried. I'm sure those millions of Yews will be applauding as YVHV says ... Why sure - come on in. Not even MMY had the gall to offer something so wondrous. This is why the Romans called Christianity the religion of women and slaves. Who else would depend so heavily upon having no responsibility? Got gall?
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Himalayan Academy. Astrologer Chakrapani on Remedies, California and Swami Nityananda - Magazine Web Edition March 1991 - Publications - Hinduism Today Magazine Astrologer Chakrapani on Remedies, California and Swa... Chakrapani D. Ullal learned astrology at the feet of his father and grandfather, both renowned astrologers of Kerala state in south India. View on www.hinduismtoday.com Preview by Yahoo From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain MJ, Jyotish is more practical than you think. For example, what do you think will happen if the Sun didn't rise tomorrow? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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salyavin, wikipedia agrees with you (-: On Friday, July 4, 2014 12:27 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, it's just common sense. The moon affects the tides. Our bodies are 80% water. Therefore, the moon must affect us, because we are a vertical body of water! That'll teach you not to trust common sense! The first problem is that the moon's gravitational effect on us is minimal due to our small size, it only works on large open bodies of water anyway not small things like our heads. What would water moving around in our heads do anyway? it won't be worse than bending over - not by a long shot - and that doesn't drive me crazy. But the whole argument would be moot if we had a measurable effect from any phase of the moon but we don't. On Friday, July 4, 2014 10:40 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you really asking me what does the moon and its affects have to do with jyotish?! Plus, I think there is research indicating that violence increases at the full moon. My point is that we recognize that the moon affects human behavior so why not the other planets? The moon doesn't affect human behaviour, it's a myth. And even if it did it would be due to it's proximity and gravitational effects. The other planets are so far away there is a larger pull from lorries going past your house. On Friday, July 4, 2014 9:31 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? What's that got to do with astrology? No one has ever demonstrated a link between lunar phase and human emotions/events. Nor with any other astrological claims. I convert for evidence. Or that solar flares affect communication devices? There's money in predicting solar flares, can anyone do it with a star chart? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. There are no scientific aspects. I can't see how it makes any sense at all. And I used to know how to draw up horoscopes, except I did it the hard way with a slide rule and set of ephemeris. All I know is that the Earth isn't the centre of the solar system and I can't see why my chart is set at birth rather than any time before or after because the stars would be having the same effect - unless the planets are into symbolism I could sit here until doomsday picking holes in it but if it was unequivocally effective I wouldn't have to. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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Like. On 7/4/2014 11:09 AM, obbajeeba wrote: fee
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:-)(-: On Friday, July 4, 2014 12:50 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Like. On 7/4/2014 11:09 AM, obbajeeba wrote: fee
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Ha, emptybill! With 7.2 billion peeps on the 3rd rock, at 9 months a pop, that's how many gazillion hours a woman has been extremely responsible? On Friday, July 4, 2014 12:28 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So sorry Michael but Herr Schicklgrüber not only gets heaven but a fine seat in front of YVHV. All he had to do was ask Haysoos to forgive him for his sins - including the millions he fried. I'm sure those millions of Yews will be applauding as YVHV says ... Why sure - come on in. Not even MMY had the gall to offer something so wondrous. This is why the Romans called Christianity the religion of women and slaves. Who else would depend so heavily upon having no responsibility? Got gall?
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, wikipedia agrees with you (-: That'll teach you not to trust wikipedia. Oh wait On Friday, July 4, 2014 12:27 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, it's just common sense. The moon affects the tides. Our bodies are 80% water. Therefore, the moon must affect us, because we are a vertical body of water! That'll teach you not to trust common sense! The first problem is that the moon's gravitational effect on us is minimal due to our small size, it only works on large open bodies of water anyway not small things like our heads. What would water moving around in our heads do anyway? it won't be worse than bending over - not by a long shot - and that doesn't drive me crazy. But the whole argument would be moot if we had a measurable effect from any phase of the moon but we don't. On Friday, July 4, 2014 10:40 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you really asking me what does the moon and its affects have to do with jyotish?! Plus, I think there is research indicating that violence increases at the full moon. My point is that we recognize that the moon affects human behavior so why not the other planets? The moon doesn't affect human behaviour, it's a myth. And even if it did it would be due to it's proximity and gravitational effects. The other planets are so far away there is a larger pull from lorries going past your house. On Friday, July 4, 2014 9:31 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? What's that got to do with astrology? No one has ever demonstrated a link between lunar phase and human emotions/events. Nor with any other astrological claims. I convert for evidence. Or that solar flares affect communication devices? There's money in predicting solar flares, can anyone do it with a star chart? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. There are no scientific aspects. I can't see how it makes any sense at all. And I used to know how to draw up horoscopes, except I did it the hard way with a slide rule and set of ephemeris. All I know is that the Earth isn't the centre of the solar system and I can't see why my chart is set at birth rather than any time before or after because the stars would be having the same effect - unless the planets are into symbolism I could sit here until doomsday picking holes in it but if it was unequivocally effective I wouldn't have to. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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Why not ask what would happen if the planets the ancient jyotish-ees couldn't see and didn't know existed would suddenly disappear. In fact JR, I pattern my life and my beliefs after the ancient jyotish-ees who I revere and admire. Much like they ignored the existence of real actual planets, I choose to ignore jyotish and all such metaphysical clap trap. The fact that it was created by ancient Hindoos does not make it anymore appealing to me. From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain MJ, Jyotish is more practical than you think. For example, what do you think will happen if the Sun didn't rise tomorrow? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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MJ, It's possible that Jesus was actually teaching the same concepts that MMY was teaching. The kingdom of God can be translated to Pure Consciousness in TMO speak. When Jesus said during the Last Supper to eat his body and blood in the form of bread and wine, he was actually saying that he was and is the Consciousness that created the basic elements which constituted the bread and wine. So, in effect, the apostles were eating the body and blood of Jesus in the form of bread and wine, although they did not fully understand the significance at that time. Even today, most Christian churches don't understand the significance of the Last Supper. But since you're not a Christian (from what I can gather), it doesn't really any difference. As MMY stated before, facts or information available in the world can be interpreted differently depending on one's state of consciousness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : according to the folks down here, it don't matter what you do in life, as long as you sincerely give yourself over to Jay-sus before you die. If you do that, God will forgive ALL your sins and you get a plum spot in heaven. That's what my cousin by marriage Bobby did, he who figured so prominently in my story Fat Bitch Doughnuts. As my mother once said of him The Devil ain't got no better servant than Bobby! She said that based mainly on his penchant for cussing, and as momma called it, bad cussing - meaning taking the Lord's name in vain and using the f-word. Momma takes a very dim view of cussing and somehow believes that bad cussing is a sign of influence of the Old Scratch. When she said that about Bobby being the Devil's servant, I pointed out to her that our other cousin Tommy and my own brother, Momma's oldest son cusses everyday as bad or worse than Bobby. She was silent for about 30 seconds until she said Well, I pray for all of 'em ever day. Two weeks before he died, Bobby accepted Jesus and Momma was satisfied he went to heaven as a result. I think about it sometimes. I think it would be a fine thing to be in heaven since Marshy and Company won't be there, them bein' Hindus and all and not believing in Jay-sus. I reckon Marshy is someplace else, maybe schmoozing with Hitler whom he admired in life. From: emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain Michael slays: ... as we common folk in the South like to call it ... Since yer a Southern boy, how come you haven't taken Jesus into your heart like you shoulda? Instead you played with the hindoo demons and were shafted by the TMO. No doubt you were unique in that regard. Why won't you just get down on yer knees and pray Jesus for forgiveness. Yer still playing with the demons here on FFL and you don't want to admit it to yerself. We could, of course, send a few yer way. Got demon?
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Richard, That's an excellent point. But one has to remember that events that occur in this lifetime can be due to karmas from the past life, from actions in this life time, and from karmas of one's parents or ancestors. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/4/2014 11:03 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: More likely the planets were used in astrology as crude time markers for cycles in nature. For instance there has been research into recurring 80 cycles in society which have occurred over centuries. The ancients wanted to know when droughts hence famine were likely to occur. According to my Asrtro-physics teacher, astrology reveals the result of our past karma, expressed probably in terms of what we crudely call our planetary influences. Astrology reveals the consequence of our actions which we do not remember in this life and are untraceable in this birth, planets, therefore, indicate the results of previous karma and hence there is nothing like fate or destiny in its absolute sense controlling us. The future is a reflection of the past. The horoscope simply indicates the future. On 07/04/2014 08:40 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you really asking me what does the moon and its affects have to do with jyotish?! Plus, I think there is research indicating that violence increases at the full moon. My point is that we recognize that the moon affects human behavior so why not the other planets?
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Share, Reproduction was a function of biology and was regulated by the society/civilization surrounding its citizens. In ancient Rome, women and slaves were people who could not exercise free will. Women were legally under the rule of their fathers first and husbands later. Most slaves were captured in warfare and then later sold. They were usually chosen for their ability to perform labor and even if they were household slaves they were unable to employ their power of choice because they were owned by their master and were totally subservient to the will/choice of someone else. Most Christians initially came from these groups, although slaves were the major population. Most women, especially the high-breds, had no need of Christianity since they ruled their households in their husbands name and had many slaves. Same thing in Islam, where it is still legal to own and use slaves. The prefix abd- in all those Arabic names means slave, only in this case, slave of Allah in one of his manifest qualities.
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You are so knowledgeable about so many things Michael. And so certain too. I am not a big believer in jyotish or astrology, but I sure am willing to keep an open mind about it. I would go so far as say that the alignment of the stars and planets at our time of birth, do have some real effect on us, but how that plays out over time, I couldn't say. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Had one done once by Brent Becvar, the jyotish guy for the Chopra Center. Some of the info seemed credible, if you are willing to believe in sade sati which is what I was supposedly in at the time. It was sort of fitting event to the prevailing theory. Some of the other stuff was way off. I have heard many good things about Chakrapani, except for the few people I have spoken with who said he didn't do much for them. I find astrology is wonderful - for those who believe. My destiny, if I have one doesn't have shit to do with the alignment of the planets. So I wouldn't care what Chakrapani had to say about anything. The only thing jyotish had to offer that I was interested in when I was still somewhat of a foolish believer was the idea of preventive measures to prevent or negate one's karma. All of which are bullshit and don't work. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain MJ, I'm wondering if you have ever had your jyotish chart done by a competent astrologer. If not, you might be surprised at the results. I had mine done many years ago by Chakrapani, who is a noted LA astrologer. It was astonishing how well he had me pegged. It was very illuminating. I have had similar positive results from Western astrologers too. The cosmos stamps its unique signature on you at birth, I have no doubt about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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Michael, you do give me a modicum of pleasure to see how embedded that TM filter is in your view of things. Tell me that you are aware that the Scorpian Land is England. Please! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : To quote the esteemed Scorpion-land citizen Sal, The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain MJ, I'm wondering if you have ever had your jyotish chart done by a competent astrologer. If not, you might be surprised at the results. I had mine done many years ago by Chakrapani, who is a noted LA astrologer. It was astonishing how well he had me pegged. It was very illuminating. I have had similar positive results from Western astrologers too. The cosmos stamps its unique signature on you at birth, I have no doubt about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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Damn, You scared me there for a minute Michael? I thought we might have to go a whole post without a Marshy bashing. As Yoda might say, Mr. Reliable, you are ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : according to the folks down here, it don't matter what you do in life, as long as you sincerely give yourself over to Jay-sus before you die. If you do that, God will forgive ALL your sins and you get a plum spot in heaven. That's what my cousin by marriage Bobby did, he who figured so prominently in my story Fat Bitch Doughnuts. As my mother once said of him The Devil ain't got no better servant than Bobby! She said that based mainly on his penchant for cussing, and as momma called it, bad cussing - meaning taking the Lord's name in vain and using the f-word. Momma takes a very dim view of cussing and somehow believes that bad cussing is a sign of influence of the Old Scratch. When she said that about Bobby being the Devil's servant, I pointed out to her that our other cousin Tommy and my own brother, Momma's oldest son cusses everyday as bad or worse than Bobby. She was silent for about 30 seconds until she said Well, I pray for all of 'em ever day. Two weeks before he died, Bobby accepted Jesus and Momma was satisfied he went to heaven as a result. I think about it sometimes. I think it would be a fine thing to be in heaven since Marshy and Company won't be there, them bein' Hindus and all and not believing in Jay-sus. I reckon Marshy is someplace else, maybe schmoozing with Hitler whom he admired in life. From: emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain Michael slays: ... as we common folk in the South like to call it ... Since yer a Southern boy, how come you haven't taken Jesus into your heart like you shoulda? Instead you played with the hindoo demons and were shafted by the TMO. No doubt you were unique in that regard. Why won't you just get down on yer knees and pray Jesus for forgiveness. Yer still playing with the demons here on FFL and you don't want to admit it to yerself. We could, of course, send a few yer way. Got demon?
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Understood. But fortunately for me I don't need a good or bad jyotish-ee to hep me understand myself. I have Nabby, Buck in the Dome, Dr. D aka Freemacncheesy, and Stevie who has apparently become Willy Tex's understudy to tell me all about myself. You're good people Michael. No worries. I'll do my share to bring you along. First we just tighten up on our attributions. In other words, when you make a statement, take a moment to see it corresponds to reality or is just some kind of emotional release. We'll get there good buddy. Maybe you rub elbows with different TM'ers than I did and than I do, but by FAR the vast majority of TM'ers I ever knew who were into jyotish were into it for two reasons - finding out what kind of good stuff was gone happen, and freaking out when they were told something bad was gonna happen and then scrambling around to buy whatever kind of nostrum was recommended to negate the bad karma. I did it too when I had my chart done, back in 2001. Used all the mantras Brent gave me and bought a big ass moonstone since I hadn't the cash for the size pearl I was supposed to get. Got it wrapped in silver and wore it night and day. Since I didn't die I suppose I could attribute that fact to the remedial measures I took. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain I don't see it as a matter of belief at all. It's more a question of the accuracy with which the chart is interpreted. There are of course bad astrologers as well as good ones. I have found astrology most useful as a tool for self-understanding. Predictions for the future I have found to be iffy at best. And like you I am rather skeptical about preventive measures. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Had one done once by Brent Becvar, the jyotish guy for the Chopra Center. Some of the info seemed credible, if you are willing to believe in sade sati which is what I was supposedly in at the time. It was sort of fitting event to the prevailing theory. Some of the other stuff was way off. I have heard many good things about Chakrapani, except for the few people I have spoken with who said he didn't do much for them. I find astrology is wonderful - for those who believe. My destiny, if I have one doesn't have shit to do with the alignment of the planets. So I wouldn't care what Chakrapani had to say about anything. The only thing jyotish had to offer that I was interested in when I was still somewhat of a foolish believer was the idea of preventive measures to prevent or negate one's karma. All of which are bullshit and don't work. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain MJ, I'm wondering if you have ever had your jyotish chart done by a competent astrologer. If not, you might be surprised at the results. I had mine done many years ago by Chakrapani, who is a noted LA astrologer. It was astonishing how well he had me pegged. It was very illuminating. I have had similar positive results from Western astrologers too. The cosmos stamps its unique signature on you at birth, I have no doubt about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer
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this kind of transference is what takes the breath away from normal thinking people because we still can't believe that people will go to any lengths to try to bolster, corroborate and legitimize their fondly held illusions. From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain MJ, It's possible that Jesus was actually teaching the same concepts that MMY was teaching. The kingdom of God can be translated to Pure Consciousness in TMO speak. When Jesus said during the Last Supper to eat his body and blood in the form of bread and wine, he was actually saying that he was and is the Consciousness that created the basic elements which constituted the bread and wine. So, in effect, the apostles were eating the body and blood of Jesus in the form of bread and wine, although they did not fully understand the significance at that time. Even today, most Christian churches don't understand the significance of the Last Supper. But since you're not a Christian (from what I can gather), it doesn't really any difference. As MMY stated before, facts or information available in the world can be interpreted differently depending on one's state of consciousness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : according to the folks down here, it don't matter what you do in life, as long as you sincerely give yourself over to Jay-sus before you die. If you do that, God will forgive ALL your sins and you get a plum spot in heaven. That's what my cousin by marriage Bobby did, he who figured so prominently in my story Fat Bitch Doughnuts. As my mother once said of him The Devil ain't got no better servant than Bobby! She said that based mainly on his penchant for cussing, and as momma called it, bad cussing - meaning taking the Lord's name in vain and using the f-word. Momma takes a very dim view of cussing and somehow believes that bad cussing is a sign of influence of the Old Scratch. When she said that about Bobby being the Devil's servant, I pointed out to her that our other cousin Tommy and my own brother, Momma's oldest son cusses everyday as bad or worse than Bobby. She was silent for about 30 seconds until she said Well, I pray for all of 'em ever day. Two weeks before he died, Bobby accepted Jesus and Momma was satisfied he went to heaven as a result. I think about it sometimes. I think it would be a fine thing to be in heaven since Marshy and Company won't be there, them bein' Hindus and all and not believing in Jay-sus. I reckon Marshy is someplace else, maybe schmoozing with Hitler whom he admired in life. From: emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain Michael slays: ... as we common folk in the South like to call it ... Since yer a Southern boy, how come you haven't taken Jesus into your heart like you shoulda? Instead you played with the hindoo demons and were shafted by the TMO. No doubt you were unique in that regard. Why won't you just get down on yer knees and pray Jesus for forgiveness. Yer still playing with the demons here on FFL and you don't want to admit it to yerself. We could, of course, send a few yer way. Got demon?
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why do you think I referred to Sal as a citizen of Scorpion land you blithering idiot? From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain Michael, you do give me a modicum of pleasure to see how embedded that TM filter is in your view of things. Tell me that you are aware that the Scorpian Land is England. Please! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : To quote the esteemed Scorpion-land citizen Sal, The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain MJ, I'm wondering if you have ever had your jyotish chart done by a competent astrologer. If not, you might be surprised at the results. I had mine done many years ago by Chakrapani, who is a noted LA astrologer. It was astonishing how well he had me pegged. It was very illuminating. I have had similar positive results from Western astrologers too. The cosmos stamps its unique signature on you at birth, I have no doubt about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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practice what you preach first. From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Understood. But fortunately for me I don't need a good or bad jyotish-ee to hep me understand myself. I have Nabby, Buck in the Dome, Dr. D aka Freemacncheesy, and Stevie who has apparently become Willy Tex's understudy to tell me all about myself. You're good people Michael. No worries. I'll do my share to bring you along. First we just tighten up on our attributions. In other words, when you make a statement, take a moment to see it corresponds to reality or is just some kind of emotional release. We'll get there good buddy. Maybe you rub elbows with different TM'ers than I did and than I do, but by FAR the vast majority of TM'ers I ever knew who were into jyotish were into it for two reasons - finding out what kind of good stuff was gone happen, and freaking out when they were told something bad was gonna happen and then scrambling around to buy whatever kind of nostrum was recommended to negate the bad karma. I did it too when I had my chart done, back in 2001. Used all the mantras Brent gave me and bought a big ass moonstone since I hadn't the cash for the size pearl I was supposed to get. Got it wrapped in silver and wore it night and day. Since I didn't die I suppose I could attribute that fact to the remedial measures I took. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain I don't see it as a matter of belief at all. It's more a question of the accuracy with which the chart is interpreted. There are of course bad astrologers as well as good ones. I have found astrology most useful as a tool for self-understanding. Predictions for the future I have found to be iffy at best. And like you I am rather skeptical about preventive measures. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Had one done once by Brent Becvar, the jyotish guy for the Chopra Center. Some of the info seemed credible, if you are willing to believe in sade sati which is what I was supposedly in at the time. It was sort of fitting event to the prevailing theory. Some of the other stuff was way off. I have heard many good things about Chakrapani, except for the few people I have spoken with who said he didn't do much for them. I find astrology is wonderful - for those who believe. My destiny, if I have one doesn't have shit to do with the alignment of the planets. So I wouldn't care what Chakrapani had to say about anything. The only thing jyotish had to offer that I was interested in when I was still somewhat of a foolish believer was the idea of preventive measures to prevent or negate one's karma. All of which are bullshit and don't work. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain MJ, I'm wondering if you have ever had your jyotish chart done by a competent astrologer. If not, you might be surprised at the results. I had mine done many years ago by Chakrapani, who is a noted LA astrologer. It was astonishing how well he had me pegged. It was very illuminating. I have had similar positive results from Western astrologers too. The cosmos stamps its unique signature on you at birth, I have no doubt about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding
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thanks, emptybill, this all makes sense. And is nonetheless tragic. Except for the burning off of karma... On Friday, July 4, 2014 5:14 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, Reproduction was a function of biology and was regulated by the society/civilization surrounding its citizens. In ancient Rome, women and slaves were people who could not exercise free will. Women were legally under the rule of their fathers first and husbands later. Most slaves were captured in warfare and then later sold. They were usually chosen for their ability to perform labor and even if they were household slaves they were unable to employ their power of choice because they were owned by their master and were totally subservient to the will/choice of someone else. Most Christians initially came from these groups, although slaves were the major population. Most women, especially the high-breds, had no need of Christianity since they ruled their households in their husbands name and had many slaves. Same thing in Islam, where it is still legal to own and use slaves. The prefix abd- in all those Arabic names means slave, only in this case, slave of Allah in one of his manifest qualities.
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just making sure Michael, just making sure. You are so fond of Marshy's phrase, (and repeat it so often) I was afraid you might have actually forgotten the true name of the country. Oh, Land of the Veda is India. You're welcome! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : why do you think I referred to Sal as a citizen of Scorpion land you blithering idiot? From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain Michael, you do give me a modicum of pleasure to see how embedded that TM filter is in your view of things. Tell me that you are aware that the Scorpian Land is England. Please! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : To quote the esteemed Scorpion-land citizen Sal, The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain MJ, I'm wondering if you have ever had your jyotish chart done by a competent astrologer. If not, you might be surprised at the results. I had mine done many years ago by Chakrapani, who is a noted LA astrologer. It was astonishing how well he had me pegged. It was very illuminating. I have had similar positive results from Western astrologers too. The cosmos stamps its unique signature on you at birth, I have no doubt about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
I'll try. Thank you for something different than SHOW ME, WHERE I DIDN'T BACK UP MY ACCUSATIONS, SHOW ME, SHOW ME! (which I did) That was starting to grate on me. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : practice what you preach first. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Understood. But fortunately for me I don't need a good or bad jyotish-ee to hep me understand myself. I have Nabby, Buck in the Dome, Dr. D aka Freemacncheesy, and Stevie who has apparently become Willy Tex's understudy to tell me all about myself. You're good people Michael. No worries. I'll do my share to bring you along. First we just tighten up on our attributions. In other words, when you make a statement, take a moment to see it corresponds to reality or is just some kind of emotional release. We'll get there good buddy. Maybe you rub elbows with different TM'ers than I did and than I do, but by FAR the vast majority of TM'ers I ever knew who were into jyotish were into it for two reasons - finding out what kind of good stuff was gone happen, and freaking out when they were told something bad was gonna happen and then scrambling around to buy whatever kind of nostrum was recommended to negate the bad karma. I did it too when I had my chart done, back in 2001. Used all the mantras Brent gave me and bought a big ass moonstone since I hadn't the cash for the size pearl I was supposed to get. Got it wrapped in silver and wore it night and day. Since I didn't die I suppose I could attribute that fact to the remedial measures I took. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain I don't see it as a matter of belief at all. It's more a question of the accuracy with which the chart is interpreted. There are of course bad astrologers as well as good ones. I have found astrology most useful as a tool for self-understanding. Predictions for the future I have found to be iffy at best. And like you I am rather skeptical about preventive measures. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Had one done once by Brent Becvar, the jyotish guy for the Chopra Center. Some of the info seemed credible, if you are willing to believe in sade sati which is what I was supposedly in at the time. It was sort of fitting event to the prevailing theory. Some of the other stuff was way off. I have heard many good things about Chakrapani, except for the few people I have spoken with who said he didn't do much for them. I find astrology is wonderful - for those who believe. My destiny, if I have one doesn't have shit to do with the alignment of the planets. So I wouldn't care what Chakrapani had to say about anything. The only thing jyotish had to offer that I was interested in when I was still somewhat of a foolish believer was the idea of preventive measures to prevent or negate one's karma. All of which are bullshit and don't work. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain MJ, I'm wondering if you have ever had your jyotish chart done by a competent astrologer. If not, you might be surprised at the results. I had mine done many years ago by Chakrapani, who is a noted LA astrologer. It was astonishing how well he had me pegged. It was very illuminating. I have had similar positive results from Western astrologers too. The cosmos stamps its unique signature on you at birth, I have no doubt about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe
