Re: [FairfieldLife] Shring? Buddhist and Hindu mantras.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Shring?
On Nov 7, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Vaj wrote: Tell him your mantra... David: Shring. Translator: Shring? David: Shring...they say it is the meaningless word but I found out that it invokes… I actually like the sound of this one better than the one I got or most of the others. Kinda sounds like what a phone in India might sound like when it rings. SHRING!!! Sal To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Shring?
On Nov 7, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: On Nov 7, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Vaj wrote: Tell him your mantra... David: Shring. Translator: Shring? David: Shring...they say it is the meaningless word but I found out that it invokes… I actually like the sound of this one better than the one I got or most of the others. Kinda sounds like what a phone in India might sound like when it rings. SHRING!!! Goddess calling, will you accept the charges?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Shring?
On 11/07/2011 10:07 AM, Vaj wrote: Spoiled mantras H.H. Jagadguru Swami Swaroopananda, Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math interviewed by David Sieveking Translator: When he did the TM course of Mahesh Yogi he was asked to pay $2500. He was then seated in front of Gurudev’s photo and given a mantra. He wishes to know Shankaracharyaji’s thoughts on this... Tell him your mantra... David: Shring. Translator: Shring? David: Shring...they say it is the meaningless word but I found out that it invokes... Translator: How do you spell it? David: I’ll write it for you... 2nd translator: He has also been told that the mantra has no meaning and that he simply has to recite it [mentally]. HH Swarupananda: This is not a mantra. Had it been Shrim i.e. S-H-R-I- M, then it would have been a mantra. Translator: He was given this mantra in front of Gurudev‘s photo. So he wants to know whether this has been the tradition from long time ago? HH Swarupananda: Mahesh Yogi was not a brahnman and hence did not have the right to give anybody any mantra’s hence he would place the Gurudev’s picture so as to symbolise that the mantra was being given through Gurudev. The tradition is such that the mantra is a very private and secretive conversation between a Guru and a disciple. It is said that when it goes in 6 ears the mantra’s powers are lost...it has to remain in between the two ears of the Guru and the two ears of the Shishya or disciple any other person is not to be party to it. 2nd translator: First of all this mantra was not a mantra. The procedure for giving it was a guru can give it to the shishya but as Maharishi was not a brahman maybe he was keeping a picture of Gurudev to give the mantra...but according to tradition it has to be between the 2 ears of yours and the two ears of Guru, if it goes to six ears [i.e. via a TM teacher] then its a spoiled mantra. Jai Guru Dev Shring very definitely is a beej mantra. Different traditions insist on one ending at the exclusion of the other. Some use both. If the Swarupananda is insisting that the 'm' ending is the only valid one then that might be the doctrine of the Shankaracharya tradition. Which would mean that MMY wasn't teaching that tradition. You can visit Indian forums where yogis will debate the 'm' and 'ng' endings endlessly and viciously. ;-) Also a number of meditators who may have been reading books on mantras and traditions sometimes thought the initiator gave them 'shri' as the mantra. MMY never emphasized exact pronunciation nor meaning but it is very important in other traditions. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Shring?
On Nov 7, 2011, at 2:35 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Shring very definitely is a beej mantra. Different traditions insist on one ending at the exclusion of the other. Some use both. If the Swarupananda is insisting that the 'm' ending is the only valid one then that might be the doctrine of the Shankaracharya tradition. Which would mean that MMY wasn't teaching that tradition. You can visit Indian forums where yogis will debate the 'm' and 'ng' endings endlessly and viciously. ;-) Also a number of meditators who may have been reading books on mantras and traditions sometimes thought the initiator gave them 'shri' as the mantra. MMY never emphasized exact pronunciation nor meaning but it is very important in other traditions. One can only guess, but I have to assume (given the line of questioning) is that he is siding with the way Swami Brahmananda taught.
