[farsiweb] Re: Persian input with US/European keyboard
Re Mostafa Modirrousta's message of 11 Jun 2003: This program of yours, it is not free, is it? No, but you can try it out by typing short passages of 10 lines or so with the online demo. Also, there is a link on your page to Eurofarsi or something like that. As a movement which has no authority over Persian language, this site offers no valuable information, insight, or help, to Persian writing people around the world. It only adds to the problems! You're probably right, but I think it's interesting to see a different approach -- however eccentric you may think it is! Incidentally, it's meant to help Persian-_speaking_ people -- not all of whom are Persian-_writing_. In practice, of course, people use the Latin alphabet in an informal way, writing Janam if they're in an English-speaking environment, Djanam or maybe Dschanam if they're in France or Germany. Learning new combination of latin alphabets for Persian characters per se is not that new or helping. ... I have the keyboard already available to me, in XP, and I would only need to learn which letter is where ;) That's true, but it's surely easier to type the letters zban farsi (PerScript on a QWERTY kbd) than cfhk thvsX (I think that's roughly what you would have to type using the MS Farsi kbd: miraculously, the letter Sin is generated by the S key!). It all depends on how familiar you already are with the QWERTY kbd, I suppose. PerScript also simplifies typing the different letters for H, T, S and Z: for example you simply type z, Z, z\ and Z\ for Ze, Zad, Zal Za. Another important benefit of PerScript is that it can generate an automatic hidden transliteration of utf-8 Persian text on webpages: this makes editing the HTML source code much easier, since you can see at a glance where you are in the text. The same technique is available in PerScribe (the MS Word program for W 98): the example we've chosen is a well-known beyt from Sa`di, which was included in a message addressed to Persian-speakers in outer space (see, or should I say hear, the audio link at: http://www.elgin.free-online.co.uk/pers_web.htm With Windows 98 it seems to me that you have to use something like the PerScript approach, or Jon D.'s converter, since Farsi support isn't available. Nigel ___ FarsiWeb mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsiweb
RE: [farsiweb] Persian input with US/European keyboard
Re Peter E. Hauer's message of 12 Jun 2003:
Many thanks for your patient testing feedback.
I tried your demo at
http://www.elgin.free-online.co.uk/fdemo_online.htm and found that
some of the substitution rules you use are problematic (e.g., in the
beginning of a new line, oftad generates ? and NOT ? ;
I can't replicate this, I'm afraid.
in front of certain punctuation marks, do generates ?? and NOT ??);
Could you please specify which punct. marks? Ah yes, you must mean
things like {}/. We'll look into that.
what's more, punctuation in LTR (Latin) insert mode does not work
properly -- it always follows RTL rules!
This is true. The Latin feature is intended mainly for the occasional word,
title or place name -- but I agree the punctuation should be correct if
possible.
Nigel
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[farsiweb] Persian input with US/European keyboard
Connie Bobroff of Wahington University has kindly suggested that I bring our ScriptMaster software products PerScript and PerScribe to the attention of list members who would like to type Farsi using a US/European OS. For most users, particularly those with Windows XP or Windows 2000, **PerScript** is more appropriate. It allows you to type (more or less!) phonetically right-to-left in a text box. The [Unicode] Persian text can then be saved as HTML or, if your system has Farsi-language support, pasted into Word for further processing. For more details and an online demo, please see: http://www.elgin.free-online.co.uk/perscript.htm If you are running Windows 98 you can still use PerScript to generate HTML -- but you won't be able to use Word (for example, Word 97) for further processing. If you really want to produce a Persian document in Word you will have to use our other product, **PerScribe**, which is a bit more complicated and in effect tricks Word into displaying Persian correctly. The .doc file will print out correctly, but may look strange if viewed with a WXP/W2K system. For details, please see: http://www.elgin.free-online.co.uk/perscribe.htm I would be happy to answer any questions about these programs. Nigel ___ FarsiWeb mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsiweb
