Re: [fd-dev] OT - Old Floppies
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 08:58:39AM +0100, Paul Case wrote: My wife and I are throwing out an old Amiga 500, and I've found several dozen 720KB floppies (which I can quite happily put to use), but I've also found about 3 times as many disks labelled as single-sided (these are 3.5 floppies, so that was surprising by itself). The question is, I formatted one of those single-sided floppies on my Windows computer, and neither Windows or Scandisk complained about any read/write errors... so is it actually possible to use those floppies on my PC? And if so, what capacity should I format them as? (They're labelled as having a 500KB capacity, and they have 135 TPI). Most Floppies have been made double sided, but were only tested single sided in those days. It's okay to use them double sided. I remember, when I had a single sided 5''25 floppy drive, I always made a hole at the other side of the floppies and turned them around to use the other side of the disk. ;-) -- Tschuess Andreas -- list options/archives/etc.: http://www.topica.com/lists/fd-dev unsubscribe: send blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==^ This email was sent to: archive@mail-archive.com EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bz8Rv5.bbRv4l.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [fd-dev] GPL
On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 11:51:46AM +0600, Day Brown wrote: If you don't want to write free software, nobody forces you. We just don't want to be forced to use unfree software! Besides all that, let's define 'we' as meaning only real people rather than the virtual variety known as corporations. People have moral issues, incorporated entitities only have PR problems. I dont see why a real person programmer could not expect virtual users to pay real money and real users pay only in attention. You didn't get the point. First, what you might know already, but I want to repeat it: the term free software doesn't mean the prize, but the freedom. Think of free speech not free beer. There is also commercilal free software, eg. GNU/Linux distributions. There are incorporations which do work on free software, and that's great! We really shouldn't fight incorporated entitities, au contraire we should integrate them, we should bring them to work on free software. The GPL is a good means for that. GPL code can only be used in GPL code. There are also firms, that just partly work on free software and mainly do their proprietary software (eg. IBM). That's okay as long, as they keep it separate. P.S.: The word FreeDos differs only in one letter from the word freedom. :-) -- Tschuess Andreas -- list options/archives/etc.: http://www.topica.com/lists/fd-dev unsubscribe: send blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==^ This email was sent to: archive@mail-archive.com EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bz8Rv5.bbRv4l.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [fd-dev] [OT] Linux vs. BSD
On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 05:35:29PM +0600, Day Brown wrote: Anyone care to suggest what the percentage of downloads need to be compled vs just extracted to the appropriate directory and run? Anyone care to offer how often this needs to be done in dos,... drdos, romdos, freedos, msdos? If Linux is too complicated for you, then just let it be. But there are people, who need more than just Dos! BTW. I think I had much more trouble with installing some Dos programs, than I had with installing Linux programs. -- Tschuess Andreas -- list options/archives/etc.: http://www.topica.com/lists/fd-dev unsubscribe: send blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==^ This email was sent to: archive@mail-archive.com EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bz8Rv5.bbRv4l.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [fd-dev] GPL
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 11:57:58PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/5/2002 6:55:30 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have another GPL-related question. As I understand, authors (copyright holders?) may change license from GPL to other. How this actions is reactive? I mean: what will happen with previous and current program releases, which was under GPL and already widely distributed? My understanding of this (and I am neither a lawyer nor Richard Stallman, so I am probably unqualified to give an opinion) is that the existing GPLled distributions remain GPL. It's not retroactive. That's right. If it's released under the GPL it can't be changed. But the next version might come under another license. So the author himself is not bound to the GPL, but others are. It is also possible to release one and the same software under two licenses. There is also a GPL-FAQ: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html Passage from this FAQ: I would like to release a program I wrote under the GNU GPL, but I would like to use the same code in non-free programs. To release a non-free program is always ethically tainted, but legally there is no obstacle to your doing this. If you are the copyright holder for the code, you can release it under various different non-exclusive licenses at various times. -- Tschuess Andreas -- list options/archives/etc.: http://www.topica.com/lists/fd-dev unsubscribe: send blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==^ This email was sent to: archive@mail-archive.com EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bz8Rv5.bbRv4l.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [fd-dev] GPL
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 05:45:08PM +0300, Arkady V.Belousov wrote: AKF To release a non-free program is always ethically tainted, but AKF legally there is no obstacle to your doing this. If you are the AKF copyright holder for the code, you can release it under various AKF different non-exclusive licenses at various times. Thank you. BTW, what mean non-exclusive licenses in sense of applying to different distributions (releases) of same software? This text wasn't written by me, it was a cite. When I read your question, I first thought, this is obvious. But the more I think about it, the less obvious it is... When you release something under the GPL you give the rights to anybody. So you cannot tell others, that they are the only ones who have the right, ie. you can't say they have the exclusive right. This is obvious, when we talk about the same software. But what is not so obvious, is the question, what happens, if you just use parts of your own(!) GPLd code in a totally new software. I am not sure, but I think, this new software then can be under an exclusive license. You just cannot privatize the GPLd part of it anymore. But I am not a lawyer either... -- Tschuess Andreas -- list options/archives/etc.: http://www.topica.com/lists/fd-dev unsubscribe: send blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==^ This email was sent to: archive@mail-archive.com EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bz8Rv5.bbRv4l.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [fd-dev] GPL
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 04:04:44PM +0100, Paul Case wrote: There is also a GPL-FAQ: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html Passage from this FAQ: I would like to release a program I wrote under the GNU GPL, but I would like to use the same code in non-free programs. To release a non-free program is always ethically tainted, but legally there is no obstacle to your doing this. If you are the copyright holder for the code, you can release it under various different non-exclusive licenses at various times. To release a non-free program is always ethically tainted??? Is the author talking specifically about RE-releasing software that was under a free license under a non-free license, or is he speaking generally?? (If it's the first answer, then the author worded that paragraph VERY poorly). The GNU people are against unfree software in general - even against noncommercial unfree software. That's the difference between the Free Software movement and the OpenSource movement. If you want to learn more about the different views, read this text from the OpenSource movement: http://www.itworld.com/AppDev/350/LWD010523vcontrol4/ and this text form the Free Software movement: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html BTW. as you can see the term Free Software is used by both movements -- Tschuess Andreas -- list options/archives/etc.: http://www.topica.com/lists/fd-dev unsubscribe: send blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==^ This email was sent to: archive@mail-archive.com EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bz8Rv5.bbRv4l.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[fd-dev] DosEmu/Linux (was:Microkernel architecture)
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 11:33:44AM +0100, Jensen, Gerard wrote: Hi, Hi Just as a thought on the side: there seem to be quite a number of people that use Dosemu with FreeDOS on a Linux machine. Would it not be interesting to write (or perhaps adapt from somewhere) a VMM for FreeDOS, essentially allowing you to run multiple instances it? ??? Linux is a multitasking system - you can run DosEmu more than once. Where is the problem? That's obviously one big block of work though. What about putting together a specialised Linux distribution instead, providing a bit more than just a VMM to DOS - imagine using Samba to plug together DOS machines in a network, also no problem. Mount your smbfs shares in Linux and use lredir or simply symbolic links for DosEmu. or setting up DOS terminal emulations (call it VMware for DOS if you want) that would allow less powerfull machines to run programs on a server etc.? Also already implemented. ;-) It seems, you don't know DosEmu at all, right? As we seem to have Dosemu specialists here: how would one set up an account under Linux so that it won't use bash as the shell but rather give you a DOS terminal screen? Needn't be a specialist for it - simply enter the path for DosEmu as you shell. And: do we actually have a working VT100 capable telnet client for DOS somewhere? I've tried already two of them: sshdos and ncsa telnet. Both packages come with more additional stuff. So it's not a bad idea to fetch both of them. sshdos is, as the name sais, more concerned with ssh, but it also has a normal telnet. It can emulate a fully linux compatible terminal. But I think ncsa telnet is much better for me: unfortunately it can do only vt102 (ie. black/white and function keys missing) But it can open multiple sessions at once, it has a great scrollback buffer (nearly BSD style), you can cut'n'paste text areas - even between different sessions. It can do screenshots and logging. And it has a much easier and better setup. Furthermore it can be setup as telnet and ftp server! (But I haven't tried that yet) -- Tschuess Andreas -- list options/archives/etc.: http://www.topica.com/lists/fd-dev unsubscribe: send blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==^ This email was sent to: archive@mail-archive.com EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bz8Rv5.bbRv4l.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [fd-dev] [OT] Linux vs. BSD (was:Dosemu)
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 04:43:32PM +, Simon Waite wrote: Today there are also versions of Minix called DosMinix. URL ? Was given at the end of the mail - the part, that you deleted. ;-) http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix/2.0.3/ You have to scroll down a little on this page -- Tschuess Andreas -- list options/archives/etc.: http://www.topica.com/lists/fd-dev unsubscribe: send blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==^ This email was sent to: archive@mail-archive.com EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bz8Rv5.bbRv4l.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [fd-dev] [OT] Linux vs. BSD (was:Dosemu)
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 05:25:26PM +, Simon Waite wrote: [DosMINIX] http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix/2.0.3/ You have to scroll down a little on this page Ah my bad. looks interesting, now I wonder if it works in w2k... According to the manpage dosminix(8) that is problematic. And if, then just the 8086 version. P.S.: The manpage for the compiler is man cc and man ACK (in capital letters!) -- Tschuess Andreas -- list options/archives/etc.: http://www.topica.com/lists/fd-dev unsubscribe: send blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==^ This email was sent to: archive@mail-archive.com EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bz8Rv5.bbRv4l.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [fd-dev] Dosemu 1.1.3.7 big fat cool USER FONT patch (alpha version)
On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 01:05:56AM +0100, Eric Auer wrote: Hi, after hours and hours of work, my XDOSEMU (http://www.dosemu.org/ or use the more real http://dosemu.sourceforge.net/ instead) now finally understands LOADABLE FONTS (int 0x10 API - not yet via video RAM). Check out several examples in fontfx.zip. I can also recommend Andreas Foersters (maybe http://akfoerster.de/ ) CAPS.COM. It is kind of exepacked because Andreas wants to keep the source private Nope, just nobody asked for the source. The source of the whole project is VERY chaotic, that's why I didn't dare to realease it. Originally it wasn't meant to be free in any sense at all. And I just packed it for Eric, because I sent it via email. I haven't expected, that he tries to disassemble it. But now I sent him a copy of that part of the code. http://akfoerster.de/download/dos/zdef2b.zip This is the binary package, but there's some source code, so you can write your own programs with it in Turbo Pascal. (sorry, doesn't work in FreePascal or GNU Pascal yet) (sorry Andreas for stealing your ZECHO idea for my ZECHO2 - but hey, it is only 40 lines of assembly...), It's okay, I didn't want to hide it, it just doesn't make too much sense without the rest of my tools. You should at least have asked. [CAPS.COM] It creates a mixed normal / smaller Font that makes text look like written in small caps :-). That is just a sample file for my program ZDEF. FYI. I just read the fonts from the graphic card and mixed up the 8x16 font with the 8x8 font. By the way, I was thinking about Wine and Win4Lin: How about a Lin4Win? You would loose lots of stability, but I think something like UML (User Mode Linux, like linux.exe to run in Linux) could be ported to Windows. Would be funny, kind of LinuxEmu, as counterpart for DosEmu. I recommend adjusting many drivers of Linux and not to simulate any hardware. Just a crazy idea that I had the other night, dunno if it will be useful for anything. I do not have Windows anyway (but Lemmings for Windows runs better in Wine/Linux than Lemmings for DOS does run in XDosemu/FreeDOS...). PLEASE NOT! We want the Windows users to change to free systems, not to make the free systems depending on unfree ones! If Windows users get to know a Linux wich runs under Windows, they will miss some most important aspects: stabillity and freedom (and the features as server and ...). And they won't see what they're missing! They just will say, yes nice, but not so much better. So why should I change?. But if you really want, you already can run Linux under Windows: with a Pc-emulator like VMware for example. If you want just a simple Unix, which can be run from Windows or Dos, have a look at Minix - but don't expect too much. The limitations of Minix were the reason for Linus Torvalds to write a new system. ;-) And Minix wasn't free in those days, but iirc today it is. http://www.minix.org (Minix also runs on old 8088 machines) P.S.: Hey Eric, don't you have no other job? -- Tschuess Andreas -- list options/archives/etc.: http://www.topica.com/lists/fd-dev unsubscribe: send blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==^ This email was sent to: archive@mail-archive.com EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bz8Rv5.bbRv4l.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
