Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme
Don't be sily, that would require work. They're not good if were talking about own projects... Few programs... Again, pixmap engine would be used or own GTK engine - they'll not realise it, because of big work required. And the accessibility reasons - they may be important. By the way, please don't take inspiration from other distros. I know from experience, it's not good inspiration source [1]. Fedora is Fedora, Ubuntu is Ubuntu, etc. We have our minds, they have their minds. We shouldn't be thinking they have better NetworkManager or so, we should think our NetworkManager sucks, we must to do something with him. This is simple example of patriotic thinking. Greets ;) . 1| Don't ask, please. -- ______ Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek/ _|___ __| |___ _ _ __ _ ( _ ) Fedora Project | _/ -_) _` / _ \ '_/ _` | / _ \ http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ |_| \___\__,_\___/_| \__,_| \___/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: start the process for F9 theming?
Hi folks, Sorry I've been MIA for a while; I've been in India giving some talks at FOSS.in [1]. I'm glad to see the F9 theming process has started; I will be chatting with John Poelstra sometime this week to start setting the different deadlines for the various theming milestones. Are we happy having 3 'rounds' or would we want to try having 4 this go-around? ~m [1] http://foss.in http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.artwork/3370 ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Is there a design that can be used to create a Fedora Badge/Button ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nicu Buculei wrote: No, we don't have a blessed design, but a *must read* is here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo An from there go to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines /me nods head - thanks for the links. You *won't* find there the SVG source, as there is a procedure for requesting it due to the trademark policy. Of course, we publish the sources for our work so is not hard to get the source in an unofficial way, but for a blessed design you have to ask to (logo AT fedoraproject DOT org). So how do I request for a SVG source ? I have already written to logo at fedoraproject dot org by the way :sankarshan - -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXrQqXQZpNTcrCzMRAscIAKCPWADHjD1vPcKWBSVVwpPyvMtfOACeNc6h B0oeA5TgzLHacAXcfaVPttU= =aTjX -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: start the process for F9 theming?
Máirín Duffy wrote: Sorry I've been MIA for a while; I've been in India giving some talks at FOSS.in You were a kind of hero with 3 presentations I'm glad to see the F9 theming process has started; I will be chatting with John Poelstra sometime this week to start setting the different deadlines for the various theming milestones. Are we happy having 3 'rounds' or would we want to try having 4 this go-around? I suspect we are running out of time for a 4 rounds process, the winter vacancy is very close. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Is there a design that can be used to create a Fedora Badge/Button ?
Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: So how do I request for a SVG source ? I have already written to logo at fedoraproject dot org by the way Mo was away at foss.in so probably this is why she didn't reply earlier. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: By the way, please don't take inspiration from other distros. I know from experience, it's not good inspiration source [1]. There is absolutely nothing wrong with taking inspiration from other distros, as long as you're not just blatantly copying it. Take the idea and add your own things to it, chances are you could come up with something better. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme
Hmmm. Ubuntu had codec buddy-like application. Fedora implemented same but which install only Fluendo's codecs and attacks sometimes with prices. Wake up, Fedora is OpenSource and it takes power from OpenSource, so it should not recommend paying and external company. It's wrong and should be fixed. Livna is not official, bot don't be silly, it provides quality driver and nonfree packages like codecs. You should support also Livna repo, but not ship it by default. Livna is better than ATRPMs - we might be sure :] . Don't know others... What about inspiration would you say now? Dnia 11-12-2007, wto o godzinie 12:56 -0600, Michael Beckwith pisze: Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: By the way, please don't take inspiration from other distros. I know from experience, it's not good inspiration source [1]. There is absolutely nothing wrong with taking inspiration from other distros, as long as you're not just blatantly copying it. Take the idea and add your own things to it, chances are you could come up with something better. -- ______ Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek/ _|___ __| |___ _ _ __ _ ( _ ) Fedora Project | _/ -_) _` / _ \ '_/ _` | / _ \ http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ |_| \___\__,_\___/_| \__,_| \___/ signature.asc Description: To jest część wiadomości podpisana cyfrowo ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: Hmmm. Ubuntu had codec buddy-like application. Fedora implemented same but which install only Fluendo's codecs and attacks sometimes with prices. Wake up, Fedora is OpenSource and it takes power from OpenSource, so it should not recommend paying and external company. It's wrong and should be fixed. Livna is not official, bot don't be silly, it provides quality driver and nonfree packages like codecs. You should support also Livna repo, but not ship it by default. Livna is better than ATRPMs - we might be sure :] . Don't know others... What about inspiration would you say now? Dnia 11-12-2007, wto o godzinie 12:56 -0600, Michael Beckwith pisze: There is absolutely nothing wrong with taking inspiration from other distros, as long as you're not just blatantly copying it. Take the idea and add your own things to it, chances are you could come up with something better. First off, how does this relate to the topic at hand about Ubuntu's theme? Considering the fact that this is the art list and that's what Laith was talking about when he started this mailing list thread. The things I mentioned in regards to inspiration stems from what Ubuntu is doing with their theming. Second off, from what I remember from screenshots of Codec Buddy, it first gives a message about supporting FOSS codecs like those in the .OGG container. Then it offers a way to legally pay for the codec use, if that's your thing. As a third option that isn't listed officially, but is suggest on the Fedora forum as well as in the official IRC room, is the livna repo which is a quality repo and I use regularly. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme
Sure. PS: It's still stupid to me... Dnia 11-12-2007, wto o godzinie 21:13 +, Jonathan Roberts pisze: On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 21:55 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: Hmmm. Ubuntu had codec buddy-like application. Fedora implemented same but which install only Fluendo's codecs and attacks sometimes with prices. Wake up, Fedora is OpenSource and it takes power from OpenSource, so it should not recommend paying and external company. It's wrong and should be fixed. Open source does not = free as in beer. Livna is not official, bot don't be silly, it provides quality driver and nonfree packages like codecs. You should support also Livna repo, but not ship it by default. This all seems a little off-topic for an art list don't you think? And I'm pretty sure there have been explanations given to all your points so far in other forums on *many* other occassions. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews/CodecBuddy Is a start... Maybe we can get back on topic now? Jon ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ______ Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek/ _|___ __| |___ _ _ __ _ ( _ ) Fedora Project | _/ -_) _` / _ \ '_/ _` | / _ \ http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ |_| \___\__,_\___/_| \__,_| \___/ signature.asc Description: To jest część wiadomości podpisana cyfrowo ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme
On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 21:55 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: Hmmm. Ubuntu had codec buddy-like application. Fedora implemented same but which install only Fluendo's codecs and attacks sometimes with prices. Wake up, Fedora is OpenSource and it takes power from OpenSource, so it should not recommend paying and external company. It's wrong and should be fixed. Open source does not = free as in beer. Livna is not official, bot don't be silly, it provides quality driver and nonfree packages like codecs. You should support also Livna repo, but not ship it by default. This all seems a little off-topic for an art list don't you think? And I'm pretty sure there have been explanations given to all your points so far in other forums on *many* other occassions. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews/CodecBuddy Is a start... Maybe we can get back on topic now? Jon ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme
On Wednesday 12 December 2007 01:35:52 Jonathan Roberts wrote: On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 22:22 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: Sure. PS: It's still stupid to me... This is why we don't like non-free/patent-encumbered software! I know this is way off topic, but I really wanna know, do you, opensource fans (not that I'm not), not use mp3? Is your music collection in ogg format? And to make it completely off topic, any good converters? Hahaha, just kidding :D Jon ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme
Still off topic. When I was doing some harddrive shuffling and reformatting, I ended up deleting music that I owned on CD. When it came to re-ripping them, I put them in ogg instead of mp3. Every now and then I'll do some converting from mp3 to ogg, despite the fact that you lose quality. Still nowhere near all ogg though. Laith Juwaidah wrote: I know this is way off topic, but I really wanna know, do you, opensource fans (not that I'm not), not use mp3? Is your music collection in ogg format? And to make it completely off topic, any good converters? Hahaha, just kidding :D -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme
Back on topic. I have to agree with Laith here. The potential that Ubuntu has with the menu setup is looking rather nice. Not sure I like the rounded edges for the hightlights inside the menu though. The tooltips are also looking decent. Perhaps we can get some inspiration for something similar. Laith Juwaidah wrote: Hi, I just found this digg[1] today. I NEVER liked Ubuntu's theme (the orangy one), but now with that brown color, that smooth bar, those round edges around the bubble, and the semi-transparant menu, it looks pretty amazing! We really should beat that, we can't let that brown-ish thing beat us! I'm sure there's a good blue theme that looks better than that treehouse! Cheers! [1] http://digg.com/linux_unix/Could_This_Become_Ubuntu_s_New_Theme_for_Hardy_Heron ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme
On Wednesday 12 December 2007 02:40:13 Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: Kidding? I'm not. mp3 → ogg is only getting quality lower and lower. mp3 is popular on the web, sorry. Also, my player plays mp3 and wma (mp3 is better - non-ms). EOT? Yes :) Dnia 12-12-2007, śro o godzinie 01:55 +0400, Laith Juwaidah pisze: On Wednesday 12 December 2007 01:35:52 Jonathan Roberts wrote: On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 22:22 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: Sure. PS: It's still stupid to me... This is why we don't like non-free/patent-encumbered software! I know this is way off topic, but I really wanna know, do you, opensource fans (not that I'm not), not use mp3? Is your music collection in ogg format? And to make it completely off topic, any good converters? Hahaha, just kidding :D Jon ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Link for official F9 theme proposal
Updated the theme page with two more visual ideas. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Freedom -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme
I didn't remember: did I send a feature request about menu and toolbar gradients, etc? Dnia 12-12-2007, śro o godzinie 00:03 +0100, Martin Sourada pisze: On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 23:50 +0100, Michael Beckwith wrote: Back on topic. I have to agree with Laith here. The potential that Ubuntu has with the menu setup is looking rather nice. Not sure I like the rounded edges for the hightlights inside the menu though. The tooltips are also looking decent. Perhaps we can get some inspiration for something similar. Sketches and help welcome. We have nodoka and it is subject to change ;-) The current design will not stay forever and I also plan to increase the configurability and do in some time in the future the notification theme (the current one is too plain). But nothing too flashy, or crazy, ... is accepted. I want nodoka to stay in general fast, modern looking, simple, and usable, while not over too simple/plain. Martin ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ______ Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek/ _|___ __| |___ _ _ __ _ ( _ ) Fedora Project | _/ -_) _` / _ \ '_/ _` | / _ \ http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ |_| \___\__,_\___/_| \__,_| \___/ signature.asc Description: To jest część wiadomości podpisana cyfrowo ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
