Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme
Laith Juwaidah wrote: Hi, I just found this digg[1] today. I NEVER liked Ubuntu's theme (the orangy one), but now with that brown color, that smooth bar, those round edges around the bubble, and the semi-transparant menu, it looks pretty amazing! We really should beat that, we can't let that brown-ish thing beat us! I'm sure there's a good blue theme that looks better than that treehouse! Cheers! [1] http://digg.com/linux_unix/Could_This_Become_Ubuntu_s_New_Theme_for_Hardy_Heron Hi Laith! Note that these mockups are one of many wild design suggestions from the Ubuntu community. It is in no way the final theme. - Andreas ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Link for official F9 theme proposal
On Wednesday 12 December 2007 10:45:11 Michael Beckwith wrote: The problem with symbols like NYC or the Statue of Liberty is that they don't necessarily mean the same thing to everyone. Pidgeon is more likely, but someone would have to research what other cultures think as well. Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: Freedom? I think best symbol of freedom is pidgeon or statue of liberty (or something like that). Maybe an city, like New York, the liberty statue and a pidgeon flying over :] ? Dnia 11-12-2007, wto o godzinie 22:45 -0600, Michael Beckwith pisze: Updated the theme page with two more visual ideas. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Freedom ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Isn't pidgeon more of a peace symbol than freedom? And the thing is: Are users ready for 3D computer generated graphics? Maybe a scene from nature with a huge space can mean freedom too, and it is more comon, not that I suggest this[1] (the downloads have reached 80,000+), but something similar, well, a morning version would be great :P Check out the highest rated wallpaper at kde-look.org[2], I didn't go to the second page, but the top 15 (the first page) are all natural scenes, that means that people like this kind of wallpapers Am I over-analyzing things? :D [1] http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/NIGHT?content=25331 [2] http://kde-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=highpage=0xcontentmode=1x2x3x4x5x6x7x29x71x72x73 -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Link for official F9 theme proposal
Em Qua, 2007-12-12 às 07:33 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek escreveu: Freedom? I think best symbol of freedom is pidgeon or statue of liberty (or something like that). Maybe an city, like New York, the liberty statue and a pidgeon flying over :] ? That would be a downright insulting display of american nationalistic pride to plenty of people. We really need to select culturally neutral images, I for one, really like what we have in Fedora 8 and I would like to suggest keeping and working on perfecting it instead of replacing the artwork every 6 months entirely. - David signature.asc Description: Esta é uma parte de mensagem assinada digitalmente ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme
On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 07:31 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: I didn't remember: did I send a feature request about menu and toolbar gradients, etc? Neither do I. Better use trac on fedorahosted or bugzilla on redhat for feature requests. In the art-list it gets easily lost... Art list is better to share and discuss ideas rather than requesting them... Martin ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme
I mean feature request in bugzilla, of course, as I do usually. Dnia 12-12-2007, śro o godzinie 14:16 +0100, Martin Sourada pisze: On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 07:31 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: I didn't remember: did I send a feature request about menu and toolbar gradients, etc? Neither do I. Better use trac on fedorahosted or bugzilla on redhat for feature requests. In the art-list it gets easily lost... Art list is better to share and discuss ideas rather than requesting them... Martin ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ______ Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek/ _|___ __| |___ _ _ __ _ ( _ ) Fedora Project | _/ -_) _` / _ \ '_/ _` | / _ \ http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ |_| \___\__,_\___/_| \__,_| \___/ signature.asc Description: To jest część wiadomości podpisana cyfrowo ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Link for official F9 theme proposal
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek skrev: Same artwork for few releases? It would boring like the Ubuntu theme... I'm sick of Ubuntu's theme. I love Fedora 8 theme - professional in every inch. For a desktop theme, boring is good. The user should not be disturbed by cool graphics while he is working. The best desktop, is the one the user notice the least. It should just be there for him when he needs it. And yes, I'm sick of Ubuntus theme too, but at least I emmediately know that it is Ubuntu when I see it, and that is very good from branding perspective. You can say that Ubuntu have found its identity. Regards Uno Engborg -- -- Webworks Sverige ABphone: +46 40 12 01 57 Kamrergatan 29mobile: +46 70 594 27 21 S-211 56, Malmö, Sweden web: http://www.webworks.se smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Brief message
I have been busy with a lot of assignment from Graphic Design classes. Even though I have written on the mail list much, I managed to follow the progress from Nodoka to drafts of Fedora 9 theme. For the Echo icons, after reading the discussion concerning colours blindness, the trick will be either a thicker outlines or testing these icons in gray to see if those people can see them. I should be able available near this week end. Luya -- ¢D0 ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Link for official F9 theme proposal
David Nielsen skrev: Em Qua, 2007-12-12 às 07:33 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek escreveu: Freedom? I think best symbol of freedom is pidgeon or statue of liberty (or something like that). Maybe an city, like New York, the liberty statue and a pidgeon flying over :] ? That would be a downright insulting display of american nationalistic pride to plenty of people. We really need to select culturally neutral images, I for one, really like what we have in Fedora 8 and I would like to suggest keeping and working on perfecting it instead of replacing the artwork every 6 months entirely. - David Yes, I really agree on both your statements. The Fedora 8 theme is the first theme that have looked really professional in a long time. Lets keep it and maybe polish it slightly. Keeping the same theme for several releases will also help to build the brand. A Rolls Royce model doesn't change appearance from one year to the next. They don't need to as they sell a quality product, and it is good that people recognize it. The same should go for Fedora. Ubuntu have tried it, and it seam to work for them. The Fedora 8 theme would be a very good base for such a long lasting theme as it is very neutral and businesslike. Regards Uno Engborg -- -- Webworks Sverige ABphone: +46 40 12 01 57 Kamrergatan 29mobile: +46 70 594 27 21 S-211 56, Malmö, Sweden web: http://www.webworks.se smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Link for official F9 theme proposal
Ubuntu is boring. So popular, so it's boring. Some day when you say Linux people will answer Ubuntu - that stupid with Ubuntu. [EndOfOffTopic] Keeping same theme for few releases is stupid in my opinion. openSUSE changes theme from release to release and always theme is beautiful. We should follow. Also, what in my opinion is great, they use Splashy. But Splashy doesn't allow to back from verbose to silent mode, as RHGB does :| . Dnia 12-12-2007, śro o godzinie 20:12 +0100, Uno Engborg pisze: David Nielsen skrev: Em Qua, 2007-12-12 às 07:33 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek escreveu: Freedom? I think best symbol of freedom is pidgeon or statue of liberty (or something like that). Maybe an city, like New York, the liberty statue and a pidgeon flying over :] ? That would be a downright insulting display of american nationalistic pride to plenty of people. We really need to select culturally neutral images, I for one, really like what we have in Fedora 8 and I would like to suggest keeping and working on perfecting it instead of replacing the artwork every 6 months entirely. - David Yes, I really agree on both your statements. The Fedora 8 theme is the first theme that have looked really professional in a long time. Lets keep it and maybe polish it slightly. Keeping the same theme for several releases will also help to build the brand. A Rolls Royce model doesn't change appearance from one year to the next. They don't need to as they sell a quality product, and it is good that people recognize it. The same should go for Fedora. Ubuntu have tried it, and it seam to work for them. The Fedora 8 theme would be a very good base for such a long lasting theme as it is very neutral and businesslike. Regards Uno Engborg ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ______ Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek/ _|___ __| |___ _ _ __ _ ( _ ) Fedora Project | _/ -_) _` / _ \ '_/ _` | / _ \ http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ |_| \___\__,_\___/_| \__,_| \___/ signature.asc Description: To jest część wiadomości podpisana cyfrowo ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Nodoka rounded corners for the gtk progress bar
Charlie Brej wrote: I made a small patch to give the progress bar rounded corners. Did anyone take a look at this? ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Banners
* Fedora Weekly News Any chance of getting a banner together for this before the next FWN release? If somebody could send me the source image of the newspaper used on the banner for fp.org/wiki/FWN I'd be happy to try and put something together myself again based on that. Best wishes, Jon * Documentation * Get Involved ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Nodoka rounded corners for the gtk progress bar
On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 22:21 +0100, Charlie Brej wrote: Charlie Brej wrote: I made a small patch to give the progress bar rounded corners. Did anyone take a look at this? Oh, sorry, I didn't have time yet (sort of busy time of year, will get better around Christmas)... I looked at the patch and at the screenshot and I like the not-rounded corners a little better, but I'd like to make them at least optional, or play a little with the idea. Still not finally decided about it, but be sure I have it in mind. Maybe it would be better to open a feature request at hosted [1] (so that it will be reminded to me every time I check track)? ;-) Or if you'd like to work on Nodoka more directly I can approve you into gitnodoka group so that you can commit patches yourself. Thanks, Martin References: [1] https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/newticket ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Nodoka: Focus Ring
On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 23:32 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: On Sat, 2007-12-01 at 17:34 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: You mean button's focus style or button's style? Not replying to this very message, but couldn't find a better one... If you'd like to comment on the focus ring it would be nice to add your ideas to the enhancement [1] I created some time ago (and nearly forgot about it)... Oh, and I noticed that Clearlooks does not replace the dashed rectangle, only adds other way to display button focus rign... Bug or feature? };-) Thanks, Martin oups... clicked send too quickly here's the missing reference: [1] https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/ticket/9 ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Nodoka rounded corners for the gtk progress bar
I also like the rectangular more. Dnia 12-12-2007, śro o godzinie 23:10 +0100, Martin Sourada pisze: On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 22:21 +0100, Charlie Brej wrote: Charlie Brej wrote: I made a small patch to give the progress bar rounded corners. Did anyone take a look at this? Oh, sorry, I didn't have time yet (sort of busy time of year, will get better around Christmas)... I looked at the patch and at the screenshot and I like the not-rounded corners a little better, but I'd like to make them at least optional, or play a little with the idea. Still not finally decided about it, but be sure I have it in mind. Maybe it would be better to open a feature request at hosted [1] (so that it will be reminded to me every time I check track)? ;-) Or if you'd like to work on Nodoka more directly I can approve you into gitnodoka group so that you can commit patches yourself. Thanks, Martin References: [1] https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/newticket ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ______ Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek/ _|___ __| |___ _ _ __ _ ( _ ) Fedora Project | _/ -_) _` / _ \ '_/ _` | / _ \ http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ |_| \___\__,_\___/_| \__,_| \___/ signature.asc Description: To jest część wiadomości podpisana cyfrowo ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Nodoka: Focus Ring
It's bug... I didn't see dotted border anywhere. Where did you see? If in Firefox, don't worry - it emulates GTK. Dnia 12-12-2007, śro o godzinie 23:32 +0100, Martin Sourada pisze: On Sat, 2007-12-01 at 17:34 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: You mean button's focus style or button's style? Not replying to this very message, but couldn't find a better one... If you'd like to comment on the focus ring it would be nice to add your ideas to the enhancement [1] I created some time ago (and nearly forgot about it)... Oh, and I noticed that Clearlooks does not replace the dashed rectangle, only adds other way to display button focus rign... Bug or feature? };-) Thanks, Martin ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ______ Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek/ _|___ __| |___ _ _ __ _ ( _ ) Fedora Project | _/ -_) _` / _ \ '_/ _` | / _ \ http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ |_| \___\__,_\___/_| \__,_| \___/ signature.asc Description: To jest część wiadomości podpisana cyfrowo ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Argyll color management system integration
Hi all, The FLOSS color management scene (calibrating screens for pictures or video) is very small. In fact there is only one reference application every other project depends on or compares itself to: Argyll CMS. Argyll is free, supports many common (commercial and do-it-yourself) color meters, has been actively developed for more than a decade. It was on the Fedora package wishlist. Unfortunately its main author is not following best release practises and has chosen to use a non-standard unmaintained make replacement (jam), with static linking, private copies of common libraries, and all kinds of things distributions are not fond of. As a result no first-level distribution shipped Argyll. Despite the fact every color management HOWTO on the net points to it. I started untangling the mess in October but gave up after a frustrating week. Fortunately I had the good idea to put the result on fedorapeople, and lately Frédéric Crozat from Mandriva googled it and completed the work. On hindsight it seems I had stopped just short of the finish line. http://twinpeaks.dyndns.org/blog/general/2007/12/11/monitor-calibration-epilogue Since it'd be a shame to let my packaging work end up in Mandriva only, I picked up his package, changed back a few bits, added some stuff I had planned but not done yet, and pushed the result in the review queue: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=421921 I'd appreciate if a friendly reviewer looked at the result. The following work has been done: – link against system libs, not built-in copies – build with modular X – remove the shell wrapper that was hiding build errors from rpm – reorder build logic to fix those errors – hal/pam/udev logic so colorimeters do not need root access The result is IMHO good enough to be merged. However, since this software has suffered from a secluded life due to the aforementioned problems, it would probably be a good idea if more clueful people than me checked the following points: – go over the build logs, check if the warnings are really harmless and fix the code if needed (where is the list of people that wanted to do this kind of work a few months ago?) http://nim.fedorapeople.org/argyllcms/build.log I doubt argyllcms was ever built with a modern gcc with all the fancy options we use and for all the architectures we target – check if I got the hal/pam/udev logic right, push bits upstream if needed (I didn't find two Fedora packages that did it the same way, all I can say the way I did it works on my system) – check if upstream didn't mess up licensing as it did the code Then we'll have one key app for photographers and video buffs nailed, and there will only be the matter of pushing fixes upstream. Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Argyll color management system integration
On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 06:35:56PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: I started untangling the mess in October but gave up after a frustrating week. Fortunately I had the good idea to put the result on fedorapeople, and lately Frédéric Crozat from Mandriva googled it and completed the work. On hindsight it seems I had stopped just short of the finish line. http://twinpeaks.dyndns.org/blog/general/2007/12/11/monitor-calibration-epilogue Since it'd be a shame to let my packaging work end up in Mandriva only, I picked up his package, changed back a few bits, added some stuff I had planned but not done yet, and pushed the result in the review queue: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=421921 I'd appreciate if a friendly reviewer looked at the result. I've had a crack at packaging argylcms too but also gave up with the crazy JAM and static linking stuff. I'll give your packages a once-over. The following work has been done: ??? link against system libs, not built-in copies ??? build with modular X ??? remove the shell wrapper that was hiding build errors from rpm ??? reorder build logic to fix those errors ??? hal/pam/udev logic so colorimeters do not need root access The result is IMHO good enough to be merged. However, since this software has suffered from a secluded life due to the aforementioned problems, it would probably be a good idea if more clueful people than me checked the following points: ??? go over the build logs, ???check if the warnings are really harmless and fix the code if needed (where is the list of people that wanted to do this kind of work a few months ago?) http://nim.fedorapeople.org/argyllcms/build.log I doubt argyllcms was ever built with a modern gcc with all the fancy options we use and for all the architectures we target ??? check if I got the hal/pam/udev logic right, push bits upstream if needed (I didn't find two Fedora packages that did it the same way, all I can say the way I did it works on my system) I've got a Optix XR instrument which I can test the udev bits with. Dan. -- |=- Red Hat, Engineering, Emerging Technologies, Boston. +1 978 392 2496 -=| |=- Perl modules: http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ -=| |=- Projects: http://freshmeat.net/~danielpb/ -=| |=- GnuPG: 7D3B9505 F3C9 553F A1DA 4AC2 5648 23C1 B3DF F742 7D3B 9505 -=| ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Link for official F9 theme proposal
Michael Beckwith wrote: Updated the theme page with two more visual ideas. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Freedom I noticed (but was too busy to talk about it earlier) the initial design does not allow easily the background animation. You added a window to the wall for this... If it is a jail window, maybe it should have some bars? In a serious tone, I think the third design is too busy: it have a lot of unnecessary elements: the wall plate, the window, even the walls (the walls are supposed to be blue?). Even the chain broken in *two* places is redundant. I think the second design works better as a metaphor. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Link for official F9 theme proposal
Laith Juwaidah wrote: And the thing is: Are users ready for 3D computer generated graphics? We already had such themes: DNA, the theme from Fedora Core 6, was 3D graphics, made with Blender by Mola. Also, we had a few proposals for F7 made with Blender. Infinity was selected in the end, but Moon (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F8theme-moon) was a strong candidate. Maybe a scene from nature with a huge space can mean freedom too, and it is more comon, not that I suggest this[1] (the downloads have reached 80,000+), but something similar, well, a morning version would be great :P Back in the F7 process when Mo proposed the Infinity concept she came with a few ideas, and one of them was about nature scenes. However, I think we tend to prefer computer generated images instead of photos as one of our goals it to showcase made with own tools, this was one of the things we are proud about F7: for the first time the theming was made completely using FOSS tools. Check out the highest rated wallpaper at kde-look.org[2], I didn't go to the second page, but the top 15 (the first page) are all natural scenes, that means that people like this kind of wallpapers I don't want to sound rude, but such an user rating is not the best criteria for judgment. Otherwise, we will put as wallpaper some anime soft porn and get instantly huge user ratings. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme
Laith Juwaidah wrote: I know this is way off topic, but I really wanna know, do you, opensource fans (not that I'm not), not use mp3? Is your music collection in ogg format? And I know I should let this offtopic thread end, but is something I have to point out: not everybody here is an Open Source fan, some are Free Software fans - is important to note this, as you can have an Open Source application which is not Free, the software patents conflicts with GPL, not with OSI. Personally, when I rip something I use ogg (my hard drive is not big enough for flac) but when I get something from other source I leave it as mp3. to make it completely off topic, any good converters? Hahaha, just kidding :D You can't technically have a good converter, transcoding between lossy formats will affect the quality. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
