Re: [Echo] New guide - Adding new icons
Martin Sourada wrote: Thanks for the tip :) I just started exploring the area and it seems there are not many choices :/ In such screencast it would be vital that the text would be readable and the oggs produced by instanbul does not seem to be very good at that (i.e. I can read the text, but it requires a lot effort to decipher it). Byzanz seem to record only to gifs, so I didn't even bothered with installing it. The best app so far proved to be xvidcap which however records to MP4 (I believe it's the older one, not the newer and better h264 format) with MP3 audio in MPEG container. The problem with Istanbul is that is use a very low quality for Theora compression and it has no way to change that. You can use gtk-RecordMyDesktop instead (I believe it does not work with sound, so you will have to record the sound separately, Istanbul used to have the same bug) and leave the quality at 100%. The result will be a much better looking video and less CPU consumption while recording. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Self Introduction
Daniel Sabin wrote: Hey everyone, Hi, I'm currently a student at Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology in Terre Haute, IN starting my junior year. I'm really interested in developing some skills in computer graphics and i figured that this would be a helpful community to join that also has some really intresting projects to boot. I'm really new to this (all the art i've done is on paper), but computer graphics seems like an intresting medium to work in. Do you have any work to show, an online gallery or something? I'd love some tips to get started or things to try to do to learn the basics. I have access to any book you may want to tell me about so references would also be welcome (and suggested). If you want to try creating icons for our work-in-progress Echo theme, here is a nice introduction: https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/Guidelines/OnTheTablePerspective -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] New guide - Adding new icons
On Sat, 2008-07-12 at 17:17 -0700, Klaatu and Gort wrote: Martin, I used to do a bit of screencasting for another popular linux distro before I found Fedora, and we used xvidcap. It actually can record to a great number of formats, including raw digital video, from which you could then transcode it to whatever codec you want, and compress it as much or as little as space and quality allows. We used to transcode to both ogg vorbis and (ff)mpeg4 at, I think, a bitrate of 400kbps, with a screensize of 1024x768-ish. The quality was quite good, actually. To access xvidcap's preferences, you just have to right click on the leftmost button on the little control panel. It's kind of hidden but it is there. - klaatu Hi, thanks! It is really hidden, but it is there :-) Seems though, that xvidcap tend to freeze for me :-/ However, I managed to shot with it one supporting screencast [1] and with subtitleeditor added some subtitle commentary to it (in English and in Czech). In order to position the subtitles correctly you need to pass -ass parameter to mplayer, otherwise all subtitles will be rendered at the bottom of the screen which sometimes overrides the text written in terminal. I used h264 for better compression and mkv to store the subtitles inside the file, but next time I'll use theora ;-) The screencast covers the setting-up sections of the working with git tutorial. I discovered easier ways to set up local branches tracking remote branches and I update the tutorial later today to describe the same steps I used in the screencast. I also shot (and edited) the screencast on newly installed rawhide (install F9 and update via yum with rawhide repo enabled) to better simulate the situation when you have set up nothing but ssh (for usage with FAS) yet. Comments welcome, I'll probably re-shoot it once again with gtk-recordmydesktop, hopefully with less mistakes :-D Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/screencasts/git%20-%2001%20-% 20setting-up%20the%20repository.mkv signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] New guide - Adding new icons
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 10:43 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: The problem with Istanbul is that is use a very low quality for Theora compression and it has no way to change that. You can use gtk-RecordMyDesktop instead (I believe it does not work with sound, so you will have to record the sound separately, Istanbul used to have the same bug) and leave the quality at 100%. The result will be a much better looking video and less CPU consumption while recording. Thanks! That seems to be precisely what I was looking for - good-enough output, good CPU usage and it seems to work without any major bugs. I didn't checked if the sound is working, after all, I am not confident enough to read the commentary (i.e. I am not much confident with my spoken English) :-D Only the area selection could be handled better, I like the way it is done in xvidcap :-) Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Article: Concept Art for Fedora 10
Rahul Sundaram wrote: http://www.osnews.com/story/20039/Concept_Art_for_Fedora_10 Quite negative the comments there (hopefully someone will have a bit more taste and not accept any of these... or What a horrible, horrible set of themes. My eyes hurt just looking at them. ) or even just weird (fedora core 4 was nice) but I guess there is some truth in the saying there is no sich thing as bad publicity -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] New guide - Adding new icons
Martin Sourada wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 10:43 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: The problem with Istanbul is that is use a very low quality for Theora compression and it has no way to change that. You can use gtk-RecordMyDesktop instead (I believe it does not work with sound, so you will have to record the sound separately, Istanbul used to have the same bug) and leave the quality at 100%. The result will be a much better looking video and less CPU consumption while recording. Thanks! That seems to be precisely what I was looking for - good-enough output, good CPU usage and it seems to work without any major bugs. I didn't checked if the sound is working, after all, I am not confident enough to read the commentary (i.e. I am not much confident with my spoken English) :-D Only the area selection could be handled better, I like the way it is done in xvidcap :-) I found a bug in RecordMyDesktop, which currently is driving me towards Istanbul: when having gtk-RecordMyDesktop recording I am unable to move layers up/down in GIMP using drag drop. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F10 theme: Spectrum
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 17:24 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Mike Langlie wrote: Darn, the site chokes when I try uploading the GIMP file or a compressed version. If anyone would like it email me and I'll try sending it (about 45MB compressed). Yeah, 45MB is quite large... do you know you can use fedorapeople.org to host such files? (but I believe one 45MB file would take almost all your default space quota - 50MB IIRC, can be increased upon request) 150 MB by default, more available if you stop by #fedora-admin on IRC Freenode and request it. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F10 theme: Spectrum
Máirín Duffy wrote: Mike Langlie wrote: Darn, the site chokes when I try uploading the GIMP file or a compressed version. If anyone would like it email me and I'll try sending it (about 45MB compressed). Can you upload it to your Fedora people account and then drop the link on your proposal page? Also, can you fill out the proposal page a bit more? The requirements for these are written up here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes#How_to_Play The concept writeup should be about a paragraph and should explain the idea/meaning behind your theme and how it relates to Fedora's principles/ideals/etc. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list How do I upload something directly to my people account? Having a hard time figuring that out. Mike ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Choosing the 'right' icon for an application
Hi, So I've been looking at importing the icons for applications for the Fedora Applications web site [1]. We'd like to show an icon next to a given application, preferably the one the user would see in the menus after installing said app. This is, of course, complicated. I can currently look for icons inside each rpm in Fedora, specifically the rpm providing the application we're interested in, and the various *-icon-theme rpms. My current thinking is, for each application: o Get the icon name from the application's .desktop file. o Look in /usr/share/icons for icons matching that name from the various default Fedora themes. o Pick an appropriately-sized icon png (probably 48x48). - We could also store svg instead of png. o Create a map that looks something like this: OS - Application - Theme - icon With a 'generic' theme for icons provided by the application. o Save the above map and icon data in the web application's database. o When picking an icon to show the user, pick the one from their currently-selected theme and OS (if we know it), falling back to an icon from the Fedora or 'generic' theme. Does this sound sane? I don't know enough about how icons work to know if I've missed something. [1] https://fedorahosted.org/amber/ Thanks, -RN -- Robin Norwood Red Hat, Inc. The Sage does nothing, yet nothing remains undone. -Lao Tzu, Te Tao Ching ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F10 theme: Spectrum
Martin Sourada wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 12:49 -0400, Mike Langlie wrote: How do I upload something directly to my people account? Having a hard time figuring that out. Mike It's actually pretty easy and you can do it even using nautilus, but I find more convenient to use mc. Here are the steps: * open terminal * open mc in terminal * in one panel navigate to the folder you have the file in * switch to the other panel (hit tab) * hit F9, enter the menu, and select shell link * enter the machine name in format: your-fas-account-name.fedorapeople.org in my case it's mso.fedorapeople.org * hit OK. You'll be probably asked for a password to your ssh key - watch the command line to see what's happening * once you're in, navigate into /home/fedora/your-fas-account-name/public_html in my case it's /home/fedora/mso/public_html * switch back to the first panel * select the file you want to upload (either by hitting insert, or highlighting it) * hit F5 to copy, you can leave the form as is and hit OK * watch the progress in the command line * after you're done, close mc and the terminal Martin ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Thanks Martin. Is there a way to do it without using Terminal? (For us lowly Mac users who aren't schooled in such things...) Mike ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F10 theme: Spectrum
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 13:07 -0400, Mike Langlie wrote: Thanks Martin. Is there a way to do it without using Terminal? (For us lowly Mac users who aren't schooled in such things...) Mike Yeah. In gnome do Places-Connect to Server... In the dialogue set the Service Type to SSH and fill your-fas-user-name.fedorapeople.org as Server. You can check Add bookmark and enter the bookmark name, if you wish. The rest leave as is. After confirming, you should be asked for ssh password (if you do not have it saved in ssh agent), and then a nautilus window with the remote connection should appear. You should be able to browse the fedora people same way like any other folder, I assume you know how to work with nautilus ;-) In KDE I don't know how it's done, but the process is probably similar. Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F10 theme: Spectrum
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 12:49 -0400, Mike Langlie wrote: How do I upload something directly to my people account? Having a hard time figuring that out. This is an easy way to do it using GNOME and Nautilus: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/fedorapeople.org/Connecting_with_Nautilus -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F-10 Feature?] Nodoka notification theme
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 11:32 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 12:03 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: I believe Mathias added some patch to the appearances caplet to set it by itself if specified in the gnome meta-theme, but it does not seem to work currently in rawhide. No gui for selection the theme is available ATM AFAIK. Also there is an issue with the notification-daemon that it crashes when theme is changed, I haven't filled a bug yet (but will probably do so soon). Please file bugs for these issues and I'll look into it. Thanks, Matthias I've filled the notification-daemon bug (as it is reproducible on F9 as well) [1], I'll recheck the issue of not changing the notify theme if specified in meta theme when I get back to rawhide (I didn't look if everything was set as expected) and if it really does not work when expected, I'll file a bug as well. Thanks, Martin References: [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455289 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F-10 Feature?] Nodoka notification theme
Martin Sourada wrote: Hi, as some of you might know, I'd like to make new notification theme (the currently ugly bubbles [0] with various messages like package updates, battery status, incoming mail, etc.) for Fedora 10 and I am quite unsure, as it is rather a small change, albeit quite visible, whether to create a Feature page for it. It is a visible change and requires testing from more folks. I guess that would qualify for making it a feature. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F-10 Feature?] Nodoka notification theme
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 11:32 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 12:03 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: I believe Mathias added some patch to the appearances caplet to set it by itself if specified in the gnome meta-theme, but it does not seem to work currently in rawhide. No gui for selection the theme is available ATM AFAIK. Also there is an issue with the notification-daemon that it crashes when theme is changed, I haven't filled a bug yet (but will probably do so soon). Please file bugs for these issues and I'll look into it. Thanks, Matthias Back at rawhide. I just discovered that the first issue I mentioned is a little bit more sophisticated... The notification theme changes to nodoka if I select Nodoka theme, however resets back to standard if I choose e.g. a different icon theme (I've selected echo, which is why I didn't noticed the nodoka notification theme was applied before changing the icon theme). Bug filed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455329 Thanks, Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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F10 artwork schedule - time to close proposals?
Hey folks, We've an overwhelming number of proposals for F10 now. Should we close new proposals for F10 so we don't have our focus spread across too many ideas? Also, we should probably go through the proposals missing the requirements and remind the proposers to fully fill them out or pull them. It would be cool if we could form teams around a core set of proposals and kind of battle it out :) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F10 artwork schedule - time to close proposals?
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Máirín Duffy wrote: We've an overwhelming number of proposals for F10 now. Should we close new proposals for F10 so we don't have our focus spread across too many ideas? Give everyone another week. Some people may be working on proposals right now. Also, we should probably go through the proposals missing the requirements and remind the proposers to fully fill them out or pull them. A matrix on the wiki page might help. It also might help to have a wiki page with the requirements for each stage, with examples from previous releases' successful themes. Maybe I can talk with you tomorrow about what exactly the requirements are and I can compile the pages... It would be cool if we could form teams around a core set of proposals and kind of battle it out :) A theme caucus :D -- ian -- Ian Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet. ~ Douglas Adams___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F10 artwork schedule - time to close proposals?
Ian Weller wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Máirín Duffy wrote: We've an overwhelming number of proposals for F10 now. Should we close new proposals for F10 so we don't have our focus spread across too many ideas? Give everyone another week. Some people may be working on proposals right now. Good idea! Is everyone okay with closing it on July 21st? Also, we should probably go through the proposals missing the requirements and remind the proposers to fully fill them out or pull them. A matrix on the wiki page might help. It also might help to have a wiki page with the requirements for each stage, with examples from previous releases' successful themes. Maybe I can talk with you tomorrow about what exactly the requirements are and I can compile the pages... We do have a page with the requirements; they have been the same since F7: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes#How_to_Play Basically: - have a good *concept* - create a wiki page with: - a theme name - initial sketches (at least one is what we usually say, and they can be examples or references to other artwork) - an explanation of the concept and how it relates to Fedora - the proposer must have a signed CLA Having examples of good ones from previous versions of Fedora would be awesome! :) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
new Artwork ideas for FC10
Hy together, in order to a small discussion of the upcoming FC10 Artwork on the marketing-list I had some ideas I would like to give here for further comments. I has the thought if we can't think a bit bigger for FC10?! This is the 10th Version of an Operatingsystem. 10th Anniversery. We have a one and THEN the null behind. We have decades going forward... So just some thoughts/ideas we could have: - collect some/all the (unpublished) Artwork of the years and put them together or remaster some of the old ideas, made them retro or so. - ask VIP's (let your imagination flow who this could be...) make some Artwork. I don't mean that as a blow against the art-team or so (Nicu Buculei mentioned such a thing) but it CAN be a way to have lets say unusual stuff in here. an (maybe bad) example: let Stallman scribble the fedora Logo and work that out or ask people like Doc Baumann, Linus Torwalds, Mark Shuttleworth or such guys. maybe we can work out lets say 12 different VIP Pics or scribbles for that. - put in some photos as backgrounds, maybe from big events or meetings... there are few Pictures as backgrounds, but many people have some. There are many ways to put in lets say faces of fedora in a smooth way... - best of artwork-artwork: any Artworker give one bit of his work to another and let him or her work that out, let your minds flow, cooperate, work out things together, etc. - other ideas... So, any comments on my ideas? sincerly Henrik Heigl /// wonderer at fedoraproject.org // ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: new Artwork ideas for FC10
wonderer wrote: Hy together, in order to a small discussion of the upcoming FC10 Artwork on the marketing-list I had some ideas I would like to give here for further comments. I has the thought if we can't think a bit bigger for FC10?! This is the 10th Version of an Operatingsystem. 10th Anniversery. We have a one and THEN the null behind. We have decades going forward... So just some thoughts/ideas we could have: - collect some/all the (unpublished) Artwork of the years and put them together or remaster some of the old ideas, made them retro or so. This seems an interesting idea and has been proposed at least 3 other times. However, it seems no one has been interested in it enough to follow through. Maybe you could be the person to make this happen? - ask VIP's (let your imagination flow who this could be...) make some Artwork. I don't mean that as a blow against the art-team or so (Nicu Buculei mentioned such a thing) but it CAN be a way to have lets say unusual stuff in here. I think we have more than enough ideas right now for F10 that we don't need to go out and ask for more to add more to the pool. an (maybe bad) example: let Stallman scribble the fedora Logo and work that out or ask people like Doc Baumann, Linus Torwalds, Mark Shuttleworth or such guys. I don't know if Mark Shuttleworth would be all that interested in contributing to Fedora. Just a hunch. :-p What is the meaning behind doing this? How does it relate to Fedora? It seems to be promoting celebrity over expertise, no? Technical people doing art = people doing something outside of their expertise? What does that say about Fedora? Is celebrity really valued in Fedora? maybe we can work out lets say 12 different VIP Pics or scribbles for that. - put in some photos as backgrounds, maybe from big events or meetings... there are few Pictures as backgrounds, but many people have some. There are many ways to put in lets say faces of fedora in a smooth way... Do you have any pictures to suggest? - best of artwork-artwork: any Artworker give one bit of his work to another and let him or her work that out, let your minds flow, cooperate, work out things together, etc. This is what our art process involves right now. :) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
