[Echo] network-(dis)connect icon set

2008-09-27 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi,

I've just finished the network-(dis)connect icon series, the metaphor is
pretty much the same like in oxygen and gtk stock, although I've chosen
different design (standard network cable + socket).

Comments welcome,
Martin


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Re: [Echo] network-(dis)connect icon set

2008-09-27 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Quoting Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi,

 I've just finished the network-(dis)connect icon series, the metaphor is
 pretty much the same like in oxygen and gtk stock, although I've chosen
 different design (standard network cable + socket).

 Comments welcome,
 Martin


Hmm, attachment please?

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Fedora Project contributor

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Re: Echo vs the destkop

2008-09-27 Thread Andreas Nilsson

Martin Sourada wrote:

On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 17:22 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote:
  
In my opinion it's applications fault. The day icon themes were born to

the world, people should have accepted the fact and make it possible to
change every icon on desktop by looking them up in icon themes. It's not
only because the Echo icon theme, we can replace the upstream icons if
needed for Fedora, the biggest issue I see there is that it effectively
blocks creating themes designed specially for people with disabilities,
like HiContrast icon theme.
  
The theming functionality is mostly there already (with 2.24 all of 
evolution is themeable etc. please file bugs where it's not), but the 
contributions to HighContrast are few and far between. It would be cool 
to see more icon creation happening for those.



We also fail to support the art communities upstream.  Andreas has
practically begged you to work with him upstream.  We simply don't
have enough good artists around to have turf wars over icon sets.  I
will join him in asking you to work upstream.

Unless I pay people, I can only kindly ask them to help us. I think 
people should be free to work on what they enjoy best. Just wanted to 
make that clear.

- Andreas

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Re: Echo vs the destkop

2008-09-27 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 12:14 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
 This sounds interesting and reminds me of a similar project 
 (http://tango.freedesktop.org), but for Fedora only.
Not for Fedora only, but for Fedora mainly ;-)

 However, I have a hard time seeing where the Echo style are a in-between 
 style between GNOME and KDE.
 
Ours look more realistic than gnome, but less the oxygen icons. The
perspective choices were done by Diana (based on community input) back
when she started with the icon set (back than Fedora was still using
Bluecurve), changing those would basically mean to start from the
beginning, but I am not exactly opposed to that idea, but I'd rather
started such a project parallel to our current Echo...

 I don't think the differences between KDE style and GNOME style differs 
 that much to begin really, if one compares the following screenshots:
 http://jakilinux.org/reviews/kde-4-rev-823000/kde4_823000_dolphin_oxygen.jpg
 http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.24/figures/rnusers.nautilus.tabs.png.en_GB
 
 Same perspectives, similar outlines etc. Sightly different colors, KDE 
 drops the outline at 48, GNOME at 128.
Oxygen has a lot more lively/glossy colouring and less contrastive
outlines for many icons than gnome. Echo tries to be somewhere
in-between...

 The guidelines are not set it stone, and we're happy to change them 
 where needed.
 - Andreas
 
Same on Echo part. You can think of Echo as an alternative icon theme
designed especially for Fedora with both KDE and GNOME in mind.

Andreas, are there any areas we might help you other than designing
icons (and filling bugs for unthemeable application icons, which we've
already started doing with system-config-*)? Although we'd like to
continue creating the Echo styled icons, we'd like to help
gnome-icon-theme artist as well...

Martin


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Re: [Echo] network-(dis)connect icon set

2008-09-27 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 03:23 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
 I looked to Oxygen icon version and was wondering if there were a power
 plug with extension.
Seems like that to me...

 This version is not bad but the 256x256 network-(dis)connect looks
 strange.  For network-disconnect, could you fix the top from the cable?
Not sure I understand what you mean in this part. I guess, you are
talking rather about the network-connect looking a bit strange around
the socket? I'll try to improve that.

 for disconnect, could you make the gold part deeper like salsa icons[1]?
Will try.

 Another alternate is *ahem* Vista version of network-(dis)connect[2]
 through the implementation feels awkward.
 
A lot awkward. Their icons feel strange and blurry...

Anyway, the most important sizes for this icon are AFAIK 22x22 and
16x16.

 Luya
 
Martin



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Re: [Echo] network-(dis)connect icon set

2008-09-27 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Martin Sourada a écrit :
 On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 03:23 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
   
 I looked to Oxygen icon version and was wondering if there were a power
 plug with extension.
 This version is not bad but the 256x256 network-(dis)connect looks
 strange.  For network-disconnect, could you fix the top from the cable?
 for disconnect, could you make the gold part deeper like salsa icons[1]?
 
 Does this one looks better?

   
Much better. Only comment is the top of socket is sightly blurry on both
16x16 and
22x22. Could you also darken the wire on 16x16?

Luya


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