Re: Echo Icon Theme in F10?
Máirín Duffy wrote: Here's some of that feedback. There are other screenshots at the bottom of the page I wanted to do the full critique on, but after spending some hours doing the critique that is complete there, I felt that what is there sufficiently and objectively demonstrates that Echo is not ready to be a default icon set: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Duffy/EchoCritiqueF10 While I agree with a good part of your criticism, I think you go a bit too far in defending the current set and making it look like is not broken (maybe is not broken as much, but broken enough to need repairing): http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/Echocrit-f10-hardware-menu-gnome.png -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Remix mark
Máirín Duffy wrote: My recommendation is this design, but let's try it with remix spelled out normally instead of with the !. https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/6/61/Fedora_secondary_logo_drafts_nicubunu_color.png Added an update: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Fedora_secondary_logo_drafts_nicubunu_color1.png Do we need to provide a palette of possible colors? Or is it okay to be open-ended in the usage guidelines for this mark? Or both? :) This time I tried a single logo and a swatch for the other colors (used Agave to find fitting colors) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo Icon Theme in F10?
Blame me for pushing Echo through FESCO. After following suggestion for submitting it to FESCO, I was a bit surprised that icon set was accepted. Were it rejected, we will not have to deal with current issue. In one part we'd withdraw Echo while taking a hit from outside for once again not include it; in other part we keep, taking a hit for having some incomplete set. That is dilemma which basically means choosing a poison. It reminds PackageKit case that was pushed as 0.1 release which some incomplete functions. Granted, it has not as visible as Echo. It is up to the leader who has a final sentence. Máirín Duffy a écrit : Here's some of that feedback. There are other screenshots at the bottom of the page I wanted to do the full critique on, but after spending some hours doing the critique that is complete there, I felt that what is there sufficiently and objectively demonstrates that Echo is not ready to be a default icon set: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Duffy/EchoCritiqueF10 Martin covered most issues, here is mine: Gedit: * -Gnome version of new file has a too bright star. * -Save icon can a matter of debate, Gnome version looks like a portable cd player. Echo version rendering issue will be addressed. * -Other Echo icons were from early version that need to be changed Gimp * Help and Reset are not Echo icons. System Hardware * Keyboard: actually a wrong symlink version because that icon was initially intended for preferences-desktop-keyboard-shortcut. I have prepared a new version of based on your suggestion minus letters along along with revamped input-keyboard I am uploading shortly.[1] * Palm: was before the new guideline, intended to fix that. * Firefox and Thunderbird: Actually Thunderbird perspective appears to match Echo version. When it comes to circular, only shadows are dealt. * That paint icon: does not come by default in panel. Additional icons * From which size of icons those blurriness come from? Luya - Nuts enough to have five different icons theme on desktop. Reference --- http://luya.fedorapeople.org/echo/applications/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Remix mark
Hi folks! I know ... I know I'm late (again!) And I prefer that the proposal number 5 which I did, and why not the i is not reversed, as the proposal of spin is to change Fedora? I like the proposal of Mo and Nicu, but I think the corners are very rounded, my preference in this design is further soften the corners with the closing tipography Fedora. As the color palette: I thought the colors chosen have a very pastel shade (the weather reminds me of the northern hemisphere, despite never having gone over there ... lol), and as I am Brazilian and I enjoy contrasting colors and a little warmer. I have published a new palette with my proposal and I hope you like it. I apologize for the delay and my English primary (Greg knows how my English is terrible) but I'm striving for the most part of the discussions. Regards. J 2008/10/16 Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Máirín Duffy wrote: My recommendation is this design, but let's try it with remix spelled out normally instead of with the !. https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/6/61/Fedora_secondary_logo_drafts_nicubunu_color.png Added an update: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Fedora_secondary_logo_drafts_nicubunu_color1.png Do we need to provide a palette of possible colors? Or is it okay to be open-ended in the usage guidelines for this mark? Or both? :) This time I tried a single logo and a swatch for the other colors (used Agave to find fitting colors) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Jayme Ayres www.jaymeayres.com www.projetofedora.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JaymeAyres ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Remix mark
Paul W. Frields wrote: Very nice. I'm not sure how Agave picks colors, but I've been impressed with the results on the rare occasions I've used it! Probably you don't have the time for it, but this is an interesting reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_theory -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo Icon Theme in F10?
Luya Tshimbalanga ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Blame me for pushing Echo through FESCO. After following suggestion for submitting it to FESCO, I was a bit surprised that icon set was accepted. As one of the FESCo members who accepted it, I'll take the blame for this. I assumed that Echo was at the time the will of the Art/Desktop/KDE teams, and it was being proposed as a Feature just to make sure it got the marketing/press/coverage that a change like that warrants. I did not actually *confirm* that assumption, and now we're here. My apologies, Bill ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Remix mark
2008/10/16 Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul W. Frields wrote: Very nice. I'm not sure how Agave picks colors, but I've been impressed with the results on the rare occasions I've used it! Probably you don't have the time for it, but this is an interesting reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_theory See also this: http://www.mariaclaudiacortes.com/colors/Colors.html -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Jayme Ayres www.jaymeayres.com www.projetofedora.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JaymeAyres ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: The third draft for F10 Solar CD/DVD sleeves
2008/10/16 Paul W. Frields [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Good point. We can't really say just PCs either thanks to Apple's switch to Intel CPUs. May be a little nitpicky, but what's wrong with calling a machine made by Apple (regardless of whether it has a ppc, pcc64, or Intel chip) a PC? By every definition (other than Apple's marketing), it is a personal computer thereby qualifying it as a PC. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fifth draft for F10 sleeves
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Jarod Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jarodwen/Fedora/10/sleeve_arts/sleeve_arts.html I really like these, however, I'd also like to drive any potential contributors to join.fedoraproject.org on the back of the sleeve. I think that we did that with F9 to great effect. Comments, criticisms or flames? :) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo Icon Theme in F10?
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 10:19 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Here's some of that feedback. There are other screenshots at the bottom of the page I wanted to do the full critique on, but after spending some hours doing the critique that is complete there, I felt that what is there sufficiently and objectively demonstrates that Echo is not ready to be a default icon set: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Duffy/EchoCritiqueF10 While I agree with a good part of your criticism, I think you go a bit too far in defending the current set and making it look like is not broken (maybe is not broken as much, but broken enough to need repairing): http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/Echocrit-f10-hardware-menu-gnome.png If I recall correctly Andreas asked many times here to fill bugs for problems like those ;-) Yeah, the upstream default is not complete either and have some issues (I also noticed slightly different perspective is used for e.g. keyboard and mouse icons than for than for e.g. the preferences one, but the difference is not that big as with echo vs. mist), but Mo wanted to point out Echo issues, which she did pretty carefully and throughout, I think. Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: The third draft for F10 Solar CD/DVD sleeves
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 17:30 -0400, Jarod Wen wrote: Hi Adam, Thanks for your comment. In fact the sentence has been changed back to be i686 Live CD to conform to the names in the download page of live cd. Please find the new version from the top of the list. The names on the download page should be changed, not your cover. For a while now we've needed to make those pages more accessible to non-techies, and Mo had made a very attractive new draft for that purpose: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/webdesign/get-fedora/ I notice that her draft also includes i686 but I think that we really should be eliminating jargon as much as possible. I'll bring that up on the Websites list as a follow-on, since I didn't notice it earlier. Am I completely wrong that For Intel-compatible PCs is better for the users to whom we're handing these out? If we were to make special 64-bit covers, I'd suggest For 64-bit PCs. The number of 64-bit machines is steadily growing in the USA but the people who typically ask specifically for 64-bit don't need to be told what they have. On the other hand, the only way to accommodate people who *don't* know is to give them the standard 32-bit version, and they don't need to know the difference. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo Icon Theme in F10?
Máirín Duffy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: An isometric perspective is used for the panel-size icons which will make it nearly impossible to fit in with the many upstream application icons that tend to follow the gnome-icon-theme and tango guidelines by default these days. I think some tough decisions are going to be have to made about echo's perspective and how it affects its fitting in with other icon sets, which is going to be inevitable. Regarding this, we also have bluecurve icons still which are also an isometric perspective, but a different one from Echo. For Echo replacing these seems to be a ToDo later item (https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/ToDo/GnomeMenus); if we stick with Mist, do we intend to fix these there? Currently, the bluecurve icons that people see are: - the OpenOffice app start icons - Desktop Effects - the anaconda pixmaps/icons Bill ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: The third draft for F10 Solar CD/DVD sleeves
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 16:32 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Paul W. Frields wrote: Am I completely wrong that For Intel-compatible PCs is better for the users to whom we're handing these out? If we were to make special 64-bit covers, I'd suggest For 64-bit PCs. The number of 64-bit machines is steadily growing in the USA but the people who typically ask specifically for 64-bit don't need to be told what they have. On the other hand, the only way to accommodate people who *don't* know is to give them the standard 32-bit version, and they don't need to know the difference. Well, probably the AMD fanboys are not that happy with spelling Intel... Note: for the time being I run mostly Intel machines, but I still am an AMD fanboy at heart and understand why spelling Intel *may* be better for newbies (which newbies should be educated by someone). Good point. We can't really say just PCs either thanks to Apple's switch to Intel CPUs. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: The third draft for F10 Solar CD/DVD sleeves
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 10:18 -0400, Jon Stanley wrote: 2008/10/16 Paul W. Frields [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Good point. We can't really say just PCs either thanks to Apple's switch to Intel CPUs. May be a little nitpicky, but what's wrong with calling a machine made by Apple (regardless of whether it has a ppc, pcc64, or Intel chip) a PC? By every definition (other than Apple's marketing), it is a personal computer thereby qualifying it as a PC. You should bring this up with Apple -- or maybe TBWA\Chiat\Day -- given their recent ads which still position Macs as something different than PCs. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Remix mark
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 10:39 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: My recommendation is this design, but let's try it with remix spelled out normally instead of with the !. https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/6/61/Fedora_secondary_logo_drafts_nicubunu_color.png Added an update: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Fedora_secondary_logo_drafts_nicubunu_color1.png Do we need to provide a palette of possible colors? Or is it okay to be open-ended in the usage guidelines for this mark? Or both? :) This time I tried a single logo and a swatch for the other colors (used Agave to find fitting colors) Very nice. I'm not sure how Agave picks colors, but I've been impressed with the results on the rare occasions I've used it! Once the Artwork team is happy with and approves a logo, there are a couple more treatments that would be helpful: * for use on dark backgrounds * one or two monochromatic versions Please let me know when as soon as you can when you've approved a logo -- there's at least one party queued up to use it. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fifth draft for F10 sleeves
Jon Stanley wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Jarod Wen wrote: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jarodwen/Fedora/10/sleeve_arts/sleeve_arts.html I really like these, however, I'd also like to drive any potential contributors to join.fedoraproject.org on the back of the sleeve. I think that we did that with F9 to great effect. Comments, criticisms or flames? :) No flame, but I think we should have only *one* URL in such big letters, be it either fp.o or fp.o/join-fedora (we can have the other in small letters, but fewer people will look at it) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: The third draft for F10 Solar CD/DVD sleeves
May be a little nitpicky, but what's wrong with calling a machine made by Apple (regardless of whether it has a ppc, pcc64, or Intel chip) a PC? By every definition (other than Apple's marketing), it is a personal computer thereby qualifying it as a PC. Personally, I wish I could see on the sleeve that my mac can use it. Of course, I admitted that when I was a newbie in Linux, I was rather confused by the name of i386/586/686... Maybe a simple mark, saying 32- bit or 64-bit, will be better? Or we just mention the 64-bit CD/DVD separately but none on CD? I really like these, however, I'd also like to drive any potential contributors to join.fedoraproject.org on the back of the sleeve. I think that we did that with F9 to great effect. Comments, criticisms or flames? :) I noticed that in the final printable sleeves for Fedora 9 fedoraproject.org has been changed to join.fedoraproject.org. Maybe it is a good idea to follow this way, isn't it? -- Jarod Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F10 artwork questions
Tom spot Callaway wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 12:01 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Nicu Buculei ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: When is it going to land for integration and review? Time is ticking... (Also, is it known late this release, and scheduled to be earlier in future releases?) As I understand, the final Solar images received OK and are ready for packaging. I am not familiar with the process of going from wiki to package. OK, cc'ing logos maintainer. I just need a list of the files that need to be added to the fedora-logos package (along with where I can download them). Well, I did an rpm -ql on the fedora-logos package, and listed out the files that I know we're replacing for the solar theme. It some cases the same image is in the package under two different paths. Anywhere, here are all the paths: 1 - /boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz 2 - /usr/lib/anaconda-runtime/boot/syslinux-splash.png 3 - /usr/lib/anaconda-runtime/syslinux-vesa-splash.jpg 4 - /usr/share/anaconda/pixmaps/anaconda_header.png 5 - /usr/share/anaconda/pixmaps/progress_first-lowres.png 6 - /usr/share/anaconda/pixmaps/progress_first.png 7 - /usr/share/anaconda/pixmaps/splash.png 8 - /usr/share/anaconda/pixmaps/syslinux-splash.png 9 - /usr/share/firstboot/themes/fedora-waves/splash-small.png 10 - /usr/share/firstboot/themes/fedora-waves/firstboot-left.png 11 - /usr/share/gnome-screensaver/lock-dialog-system.png 12 - /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/gnome-splash.png 13 - /usr/share/pixmaps/splash All the images are named according to the above (the filenames, anyway) and in the following tar.gz: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/a/a9/Fedora-logos-artwork_solar.tar.gz I also noticed these files in the fedora-logos package that should probably be deleted: 1 - /usr/share/firstboot/themes/fedora-waves/firstboot-header.png 2 - /usr/share/firstboot/themes/fedora-waves/shadowman-round-48.png 3 - /usr/share/pixmaps/redhat/shadowman-round-48.png One note is that the anaconda and syslinux images haven't been tested... ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Remix mark
Hi Jayme! Jayme Ayres wrote: I like the proposal of Mo and Nicu, but I think the corners are very rounded, my preference in this design is further soften the corners with the closing tipography Fedora. I still really like the very rounded corners Nicu did. They match the curves of the d, o, and a in Fedora. The letters 'r' and 'x' may need a bit more breathing room where they hit the edge of the rounded box but somehow it seems to match the fedora feel more than the more boxy corners to me. As the color palette: I thought the colors chosen have a very pastel shade (the weather reminds me of the northern hemisphere, despite never having gone over there ... lol), and as I am Brazilian and I enjoy contrasting colors and a little warmer. I have published a new palette with my proposal and I hope you like it. I really like your palette. It takes the colors that Nicu picked from Agave but makes them a bit brighter. Can you upload the SVG of your palette? It looks like the file is missing (https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadwpDestFile=Ffedora_remix_jayme-colors.svg) I would like to see the rounded logo done up with all these colors to make sure they don't make the 'remix' text too hard to read. If they don't that's what I recommend we go with. Does that sound reasonable? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fifth draft for F10 sleeves
Paul W. Frields wrote: Perhaps we need a special section on the general Artwork media wiki page that outlines the must-haves for sleeve designs? It should include: * http://join.fedoraproject.org * Copyright notice * Proper logo usage We have this page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/CDArt -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fifth draft for F10 sleeves
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 18:05 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Jon Stanley wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Jarod Wen wrote: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jarodwen/Fedora/10/sleeve_arts/sleeve_arts.html I really like these, however, I'd also like to drive any potential contributors to join.fedoraproject.org on the back of the sleeve. I think that we did that with F9 to great effect. Comments, criticisms or flames? :) No flame, but I think we should have only *one* URL in such big letters, be it either fp.o or fp.o/join-fedora (we can have the other in small letters, but fewer people will look at it) The big link on the sleeve should be join.fedoraproject.org -- just like on the F9 discs. In the instructions where there's a smaller font in use, it's OK to use help.fedoraproject.org I think. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 31, Issue 35
Hii, this is Abdul Samad Ghanchi, I am from Pakistan, and interested in ART and got command on PHOTOSHOP, Hope i contribute my best for FEDORA... Regards gHanchi2oOo On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Send Fedora-art-list mailing list submissions to fedora-art-list@redhat.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Fedora-art-list digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Becoming a contributor (Alec Moon) 2. Re: Echo Icon Theme in F10? (Martin Sourada) 3. Re: Fedora Remix mark (Paul W. Frields) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:49:11 -0500 From: Alec Moon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Becoming a contributor To: fedora-art-list@redhat.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Actually, because of the incompleteness of the list, I wasn't completely sure which projects were still open. I was interested in the Fedora USB distrobution Kit, though, as it looked like nobody has been working on it. On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send Fedora-art-list mailing list submissions to fedora-art-list@redhat.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Fedora-art-list digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Fedora 10 promo video (draft) (Nicu Buculei) 2. F10 artwork questions (Bill Nottingham) 3. Re: Becoming a contributor (Nicu Buculei) 4. Re: F10 artwork questions (Nicu Buculei) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:50:39 +0300 From: Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fedora 10 promo video (draft) To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Paul W. Frields wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 09:17 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: I also think it's very hard to make a short list with features to outline We have made such a list in Marketing already: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2008-September/msg00183.html I know about that list... it was my indirect way of pointing that a new desktop theme is a *minor* feature (even if it is the most talked part in reviews). Hmm. Do we require simply FOSS-made materials, or specifically Fedora-made materials? Well, if we don't allow software from rpmfusion then we are SOL, no videos beyond screen captures made with Istanbul or recorded from webcam with Cheese. Effectively not even I am Fedora - http://s6.video2.blip.tv/057043336/Mairin-IAmFedora740.ogg -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:19:07 -0400 From: Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: F10 artwork questions To: fedora-art-list@redhat.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Some general questions: When is it going to land for integration and review? Time is ticking... (Also, is it known late this release, and scheduled to be earlier in future releases?) The poster on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Solar - it doesn't appear to be valid English, certainly not in the header. And I'm not sure what an all branded new way of technology is. Finally, not to start too much controversy - is there a reason the *final* theme voting is Art-only? Bill -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:23:32 +0300 From: Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Becoming a contributor To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Alec Moon wrote: I have had some experience working with Photoshop, starting at verson 6, all the way to CS 3. I'm also experienced with GIMP. I like to do projects with a clear goal. I like abstract art more than realism. I'm very open to any sort of
Re: The third draft for F10 Solar CD/DVD sleeves
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 11:07 -0400, Jarod Wen wrote: May be a little nitpicky, but what's wrong with calling a machine made by Apple (regardless of whether it has a ppc, pcc64, or Intel chip) a PC? By every definition (other than Apple's marketing), it is a personal computer thereby qualifying it as a PC. Personally, I wish I could see on the sleeve that my mac can use it. Of course, I admitted that when I was a newbie in Linux, I was rather confused by the name of i386/586/686... Maybe a simple mark, saying 32- bit or 64-bit, will be better? Or we just mention the 64-bit CD/DVD separately but none on CD? That's what I was driving at -- we shouldn't need to point out 32-bit since it won't be helpful to most people who don't know the difference. We can call out 64-bit specifically if desired, for the exact opposite reason. I really like these, however, I'd also like to drive any potential contributors to join.fedoraproject.org on the back of the sleeve. I think that we did that with F9 to great effect. Comments, criticisms or flames? :) I noticed that in the final printable sleeves for Fedora 9 fedoraproject.org has been changed to join.fedoraproject.org. Maybe it is a good idea to follow this way, isn't it? Yes, see the separate thread on the fifth draft (:-D) for details. The big link should be join.fedoraproject.org. I don't think it's a problem if we have the help.fedoraproject.org link contained in the smaller instructions section. We just want to make sure it's *not* as noticeable as join.fp.o. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo Icon Theme in F10?
Quoting Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Máirín Duffy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: An isometric perspective is used for the panel-size icons which will make it nearly impossible to fit in with the many upstream application icons that tend to follow the gnome-icon-theme and tango guidelines by default these days. I think some tough decisions are going to be have to made about echo's perspective and how it affects its fitting in with other icon sets, which is going to be inevitable. Regarding this, we also have bluecurve icons still which are also an isometric perspective, but a different one from Echo. For Echo replacing these seems to be a ToDo later item (https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/ToDo/GnomeMenus); if we stick with Mist, do we intend to fix these there? Currently, the bluecurve icons that people see are: - the OpenOffice app start icons - Desktop Effects - the anaconda pixmaps/icons Also system-config* that contains Bluecurve icons. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Project contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fifth draft for F10 sleeves
Now the drafts are updated with join.fedoraproject.org. So, enjoin! On Oct 16, 2008, at 12:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The big link on the sleeve should be join.fedoraproject.org -- just like on the F9 discs. In the instructions where there's a smaller font in use, it's OK to use help.fedoraproject.org I think. -- Jarod Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Remix mark
2008/10/16 Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Jayme! Jayme Ayres wrote: I like the proposal of Mo and Nicu, but I think the corners are very rounded, my preference in this design is further soften the corners with the closing tipography Fedora. I still really like the very rounded corners Nicu did. They match the curves of the d, o, and a in Fedora. I understand that the rounded corner is compatible with the typography of Fedora, but thinking about the composition of the image, rounded corners less fit better in tune. The letters 'r' and 'x' may need a bit more breathing room where they hit the edge of the rounded box but somehow it seems to match the fedora feel more than the more boxy corners to me. I agree that the letters r and x are not well distributed and I think that '! demonstrates very well the idea of Remix is a concept.. As the color palette: I thought the colors chosen have a very pastel shade (the weather reminds me of the northern hemisphere, despite never having gone over there ... lol), and as I am Brazilian and I enjoy contrasting colors and a little warmer. I have published a new palette with my proposal and I hope you like it. I really like your palette. It takes the colors that Nicu picked from Agave but makes them a bit brighter. Updated. Forgive me, I put an F at the file name, so that the link was broken. Can you upload the SVG of your palette? It looks like the file is missing ( https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadwpDestFile=Ffedora_remix_jayme-colors.svg ) I would like to see the rounded logo done up with all these colors to make sure they don't make the 'remix' text too hard to read. If they don't that's what I recommend we go with. Does that sound reasonable? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Jayme Ayres www.jaymeayres.com www.projetofedora.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JaymeAyres ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Remix mark
2008/10/16 Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jayme Ayres wrote: 2008/10/16 Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jayme Ayres wrote: I like the proposal of Mo and Nicu, but I think the corners are very rounded, my preference in this design is further soften the corners with the closing tipography Fedora. I still really like the very rounded corners Nicu did. They match the curves of the d, o, and a in Fedora. I understand that the rounded corner is compatible with the typography of Fedora, but thinking about the composition of the image, rounded corners less fit better in tune. I just don't agree with that. Maybe it will seem better when the r and x are giving more padding? See this example. Updated. Forgive me, I put an F at the file name, so that the link was broken. cool thanks ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Jayme Ayres www.jaymeayres.com www.projetofedora.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JaymeAyres attachment: fedora_remix_jayme-colors.svg___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo Icon Theme in F10?
Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Regarding icons using different perspective, it is much worse for any theme especially when new applications do not have icons that follow either guideline (Blender, KOffice, xsane, about-me, gFTP, etc.) . I'm not quite groking this sentence. But at least for what seems the majority of upstream GNOME apps these days, their icons are based on the gnome-icon-theme/tango standards which are flat or on the table perspectives. In the case of third party apps like blender, firefox, thunderbird, etc, the majority of these icons tend to again be a flat perspective. That an icon follows an isometric perspective also doesn't mean it will follow the same isometric perspective as Echo. Echo on my desktop faces away from me. Bluecurve is a bit friendlier because it faces towards me. The two together, while both isometric, do not match well at all wrt perspective. Again, I believe the isometric perspective, at least for the 22x22 and 24x24 icons of echo has proven to be a very poor choice in terms of cleanness/crispness, clarity, and alignment to the pixel grid, issues of integrating with other icons aside. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Remix mark
Jayme Ayres wrote: 2008/10/16 Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jayme Ayres wrote: 2008/10/16 Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jayme Ayres wrote: I like the proposal of Mo and Nicu, but I think the corners are very rounded, my preference in this design is further soften the corners with the closing tipography Fedora. I still really like the very rounded corners Nicu did. They match the curves of the d, o, and a in Fedora. I understand that the rounded corner is compatible with the typography of Fedora, but thinking about the composition of the image, rounded corners less fit better in tune. I just don't agree with that. Maybe it will seem better when the r and x are giving more padding? See this example. I just don't like the squared corners. They don't seem to fit with the logo at all. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Remix mark
2008/10/16 Jayme Ayres [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/10/16 Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jayme Ayres wrote: 2008/10/16 Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jayme Ayres wrote: 2008/10/16 Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jayme Ayres wrote: I like the proposal of Mo and Nicu, but I think the corners are very rounded, my preference in this design is further soften the corners with the closing tipography Fedora. I still really like the very rounded corners Nicu did. They match the curves of the d, o, and a in Fedora. I understand that the rounded corner is compatible with the typography of Fedora, but thinking about the composition of the image, rounded corners less fit better in tune. I just don't agree with that. Maybe it will seem better when the r and x are giving more padding? See this example. I just don't like the squared corners. They don't seem to fit with the logo at all. ok... If you just don´t like that I can´t change your opinion with :-( Cheers =) ~m I think the squared corners look better than the rounded ones. I guess its the spacing between the r and x and the edge of the ovals, but I don't think those are as nice. Maybe both Remix logos could work? Just my $.02 The color pallette is awesome btw, I love it. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Remix mark
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 15:49 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: Jayme Ayres wrote: 2008/10/16 Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jayme Ayres wrote: 2008/10/16 Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jayme Ayres wrote: I like the proposal of Mo and Nicu, but I think the corners are very rounded, my preference in this design is further soften the corners with the closing tipography Fedora. I still really like the very rounded corners Nicu did. They match the curves of the d, o, and a in Fedora. I understand that the rounded corner is compatible with the typography of Fedora, but thinking about the composition of the image, rounded corners less fit better in tune. I just don't agree with that. Maybe it will seem better when the r and x are giving more padding? See this example. I just don't like the squared corners. They don't seem to fit with the logo at all. I think rounded is a much more unifying design; it fits not just with the Fedora logo font but also the MgOpen Modata font design too, and seems thematically joined with the Infinity logo and many of our other collateral designs like the FUDCon logo. I also know that while I was originally a proponent of the use of an exclamation mark '!' in the word remix to provide more cowbell, my discussions with legal folks since then indicates that might not be a wise move. If people start writing Fedora Rem!x in general text as opposed to Fedora Remix, there's the risk of brand erosion. Using the remix word without the exclamation mark doesn't involve that risk, so as much as I hate to stick my nose in here, we may have to put the kibosh on that particular design detail. :-\ Sorry I introduced that concept into the mix -- sometimes my idle ideating is too much too soon! -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
