Re: Fedora release banners

2009-05-08 Thread Nicu Buculei

On 05/08/2009 03:35 AM, Paolo Leoni wrote:

2009/5/4 Nicu Buculei
The basic layout is good (maybe the placement ans size of the logo
could be better) but I think it would be an interesting idea to
change the wording somehow so it includes the F11 slogan (Reign).


I've two new versions, one of these includes the slogan Reign, but I'm
not sure that's ok...

https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/b/be/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1b.png
https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/0/00/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1b.svg


Without the word fedora or the logo, I am afraid this one can work 
only for insiders, everybody else will not know what it is about.



https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/1/1d/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1c.png
https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/2/2d/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1c.svg


This one I think is a bit too plain: wile having a simple default 
wallpaper (with no lion) is good for usability, is not the same for a 
banner, which should grab the eye. So the lion here is a good thing.


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MgOpen fonts upstream website / help from a Greek speaker needed

2009-05-08 Thread Nicu Buculei
I tried to solve this by myself using online translation tools, but I 
wasn't able to get a solution, some help from a Greek speaker would be 
useful.


On the Logo Usage Guideline wiki page we mention MgOpen Modata as teh 
complementary font and link to the upstream website, to a page which 
is not working any more: http://www.ellak.gr/fonts/mgopen/index.en.html


Unfortunately the website had a major redesign, probably the page was 
moved, but the text is Greek and I wasn't able to figure it.


The content of the page is available elsewhere, but that seems to be a 
copy, not a proper upstream: http://www.zvr.gr/typo/mgopen/index


I think is useful to update our wiki with working links.

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Re: Fedora release banners

2009-05-08 Thread Nicu Buculei

On 05/08/2009 05:29 PM, Paolo Leoni wrote:

In this case I think that version 1 is the best until now. But about
your proposal for the slogan, I'm in trouble because I don't know how
make it in the banner without render it too plenty of stuff...


No worry, it was just a suggestion, we use it only if we can fit it 
properly in the design.


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Re: F11 Sleeve design

2009-05-08 Thread Clint Savage
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro wrote:
 On 04/29/2009 10:23 PM, Clint Savage wrote:

 I wanted to bring this up since it affects my ability to order and
 deliver F11 media to ambassadors and community members.

 According to John Poelstra's task list for the Fedora Art team [1], we
 should be starting the design for the Sleeves and disc labels. Here's
 the information:

 Create DVD/CD label and sleeve artwork          Start: Tue 2009-04-28
 Due:
 Tue 2009-05-12          Duration: 14days

 So with that, I'd like to get the conversation started and see what we
 want to do for the sleeves, design wise.

 A little bit ago Susmit showed his interest about working on this:
 https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00052.html

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It appears this conversation died, however the deadline is fast
approaching.  I can create something based upon the lion design, but I
think Someone else (Samuele, Mo, Nicu, etc.) is probably more capable
than I.  Could someone please pick this up and get a draft ready
before Monday?  If not, I'll see what I can do next week as I am
fairly busy these days :/

Cheers,

Clint

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Re: F11 Sleeve design

2009-05-08 Thread susmit shannigrahi
Hi,

 A little bit ago Susmit showed his interest about working on this:
 https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00052.html


That's true.
Unfortunately, I am unable to commit time right now.
My sincere appologise for letting this down. :(

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Re: MgOpen fonts upstream website / help from a Greek speaker needed

2009-05-08 Thread Ian Weller
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 11:26:54AM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
 I tried to solve this by myself using online translation tools, but I  
 wasn't able to get a solution, some help from a Greek speaker would be  
 useful.

 On the Logo Usage Guideline wiki page we mention MgOpen Modata as teh  
 complementary font and link to the upstream website, to a page which is 
 not working any more: http://www.ellak.gr/fonts/mgopen/index.en.html

 Unfortunately the website had a major redesign, probably the page was  
 moved, but the text is Greek and I wasn't able to figure it.

 The content of the page is available elsewhere, but that seems to be a  
 copy, not a proper upstream: http://www.zvr.gr/typo/mgopen/index

 I think is useful to update our wiki with working links.

This looks like the new upstream page. Links to the font faces are dead
though.

http://www.ellak.gr/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=6493

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Re: Wallpaper

2009-05-08 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 07:09:35PM +0200, Max Spevack wrote:
 On Wed, 6 May 2009, Máirín Duffy wrote:

 This is an extremely open design team. We openly discuss our methods  
 and our decisions, and we make our source artwork available in open  
 formats using open licenses so anyone who wants to participate, extend, 
 or build on our work can easily. If you been participating in the list 
 when we received complaints on this particular issue and when we made 
 the final call on how to handle it, you could have spoken up just as 
 anyone else could have. Even if you were not paying attention to the 
 list at the time, it doesn't mean the issue wasn't discussed openly.

 Rodrigo, I recognize your passion, but I must disagree with you.

 Mo has said it correctly.

 The purpose of Fedora is not to vote on all sorts of things.  The purpose 
 of Fedora is to provide a leadership model for individual teams to take 
 ownership of tasks, and work those tasks to completion in an open, 
 inclusive way.

And I think it's worth pointing out that the whole reason we have a
different theme now, as opposed to the landscape originally being
worked for F11, is precisely *because* the open process allowed
someone to bring in a new idea.  Did it occur late in the process?
Yes.  But people committed to working on many of the design pieces
needed, which created a clear consensus.

 Discussing which of several options is most right is perfectly fine,  
 but in the end decisions are made by the people in the teams who are  
 directly doing the work, or those who are active participants.

 To speak directly: I am a lurker on fedora-art-list.  Sometimes I say I  
 like this one! but I don't expect that my voice will have any more than  
 a minor impact, because I'm not the one designing the artwork.

 I think the fact that the lion is being shipped as an alternative and is  
 default in dual-monitor settings is a good compromise of all the various  
 ideas.

Absolutely.  As someone who observed for himself the issues with
interaction between desktop icons and the lion design, I think it was
the correct decision.

I would also like everyone here to remember that the decisions we make
always have ramifications.  It is impossible to lead, in any pursuit,
and expect to make every single person happy all the time, no matter
how much we'd like it if that was the case.  I try to expect that
reaction, listen thoughtfully, and do the best I can to at least
achieve understanding.  Where that isn't possible, I leave the
conversation knowing that I've done the best I can, and accept that I
cannot provide perfect happiness to everyone -- it's out of my
control.

Mo, Nicu, Samuele, Paolo, and many other people (please forgive me if
I didn't list all names, it's only because of my imperfect, human,
aging brain) continue to do an exceptional job making Fedora look
BEAUTIFUL, working as a team.  Art never pleases everyone, and we can
continue to look for ways to improve while peacefully accepting that.

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