Re: F11 visual concept idea - greek
Martin Sourada wrote: Either way, my idea is focusing rather on the spiritual part of the image, I'd draw it how it could look if the temple was new and still used by old Greeks, perhaps around the columns could be some grapes or some other plant growing, I can also imagine hot springs (with vapour flowing up from the springs, creating a mist) and maybe forest or small bushes nearby, possibly with Mt. Olympus being seen in a distance. Though I am not sure if we'd be able to do such complex art from scratch with inkscape; or if we'd be doing photo-realistic one, if we could get hands on fitting and properly licensed photos... Maybe if I have enough time I'll try to sketch the idea in inkscape, but do not expect something that will look good >_< Awesome, I look forward to it! I'm going to try to put something together tonight too to push this idea further and we can critique each other's sketches/mockups and figure out what parts work. The Feb 1 (today :) ) deadline isn't for us to have beautiful polished artwork, but to just to know what we'll be working on for the next few weeks. It seems like we are reaching a consensus on doing a Grecian landscape with a helmet & columns and some natural elements like Olympus, vines, etc., so I think we've pretty much met our goal which is great! :) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 visual concept idea - greek
Bill Nottingham wrote: Máirín Duffy (du...@fedoraproject.org) said: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Artwork_F11-thermopylae-greek-mockup.jpg Maybe too detailed, but I just want to point out the main concept, which is the combination of ancient Greece and nature (water, mountains with a lot of green). Hey thanks Konstantinos (and everyone else)! I'll try to make the image more alive and green like your mockup! I like the idea. A question - is it possible/should we look for a full photo (appropriately licensed) that can be used? Certainly possible :) It might be hard to find one with all the elements we want though, which is why I think photomanip will be a good route. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 visual concept idea - greek
Konstantinos Antonakoglou wrote: Well, based on what I've read so far, I gave it a try and produced this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Artwork_F11-thermopylae-greek-mockup.jpg Maybe too detailed, but I just want to point out the main concept, which is the combination of ancient Greece and nature (water, mountains with a lot of green). Hey thanks Konstantinos (and everyone else)! I'll try to make the image more alive and green like your mockup! ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
F11 visual concept idea - greek
Hi folks, This is a really really sloppy mockup but hopefully illustrates the kind of visuals I'm thinking of for F11: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/8/83/Artwork_F11_greek-concept_mockup1_mo.png I'm thinking maybe somewhere more mountainous with some mists, and with some vines/plants growing up the columns with some sunbeams on them. What do you think? Source materials are referenced on the main F11 Artwork page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F11#Mock-ups ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Updated EDU SIG Artwork Request
Sebastian Dziallas wrote: María Leandro wrote: Hello again. This afternoon I had some ideas for the Artwork, and this two thing came up... only a sketch. http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/EduSig/thumb_wallpaper2.jpg http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/EduSig/thumb_wallpaper3.jpg Hi and thanks for all your work! I do really like the second one (wallpaper3)... :) Me too, my favorite is wallpaper 3. A couple quick comments: - I would take the outline that is around the infinity symbol in the Fedora logo out. You want to make sure you are using the logo according to the usage guidelines [1] which prohibit this kind of treatment. - Instead of using a specialized font for the "EDU", I would maybe just write out "Education" in MgOpen Modata. It would fit in nicely with our secondary branding scheme then. I love the bright colors and I also like how the focus of the graphics is on the lower right, although maybe this graphic is too busy for a wallpaper. I think it would be really nice for splashes and other branding materials though, and maybe you could pull out the pencils/sun and just have a slightly desaturated version of the sky+clouds for the wallpaper? ~m [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 Schedule
John Poelstra wrote: Hi Everyone, As Mairin mentioned on the list, several us met at FUDCon to fine tune the release schedules for each of the teams. Our ultimate goals is to make the release process smoother and better coordinated so that the hard work everyone does is recognized and included in the release on time. My first draft of the art schedule is here: http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/f-11-art-tasks.html Here are a few questions I had while working through the schedule: 1) Shouldn't there be a milestone for choosing the final icon theme and "look & feel" for the release like preferably at Beta or Feature so there is time to tune and clean up for GA? If Echo is again proposed as a feature as it was for F10 then I would say that should operate under the guidelines for proposing features and follow those deadlines. 2) Is it a correct assumption that the splash screens are completed after the wallpaper and most likely based on the wallpaper? Yep. 3) On Sunday we discussed the banners that need to be created for GA. I caputred them in the following way, but need more clarification: We said there are three banners for GA: a) large banner b) "the release is out, go get it" c) release name on start.fedoraproject.org Q: where are the banners for #a and #b displayed once finished? a & b are displayed on the front page of fedoraproject.org We also said that all of the banners need to be translated. Q: does this apply to only #a and #b or does #c apply too? It depends on the particular design. At a minimum, #a will have a tagline that goes with it that needs translation. (eg right now we have "Fedora 10 - Fire it up" ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Art ideas for Fedora 11 (grub, boot, splashes, window decorations, button styles etc...)
Mark wrote: So, to get back on my initial topic.. How do you guys feel about a full theme in the old fedora (Core 1 till 4) colors? The link with the F11 name is (just making it up now) : Reviving old days. (the name represents something old and the theme represents the beginning years of fedora). I don't like this idea, but I did already say that. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Art ideas for Fedora 11 (grub, boot, splashes, window decorations, button styles etc...)
Máirín Duffy wrote: Samuele Storari wrote: I think work on the Golden Ratio will be good. Let's get all these ideas in one place on the wiki. I started a page at FUDcon but with the bad network on the last day wasn't able to send out the link, here it is: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F11 Actually is anyone willing to volunteer to go through this thread and make sure each of the different treatment ideas is noted on the above wiki page? (I won't have time to do this for a while but I think having it recorded sooner rather than later would be good) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Art ideas for Fedora 11 (grub, boot, splashes, window decorations, button styles etc...)
Mark wrote: So a new theme would be welcome. Why not on the FC1 - 4 releases (blue/purple like) which fits the name perfectly. Blue/purple is like the ocean (oke, more blue then purple). Are you talking about just the colors of FC1-FC4 or the actual theme? And are you talking about the *artwork* or are you talking about the GTK/metacity etc? I am just talking about artwork here But one other theming thing... what about those rounds? and the deadlines? I would like to mock something up but anything in the next few (2 till 4) weeks is probably not gonna work for me because of a school project. We aren't doing the rounds anymore. We are all going to work together on one design so our energies aren't split and we can work together more. I am at fudcon with John Poelstra right now working out the deadlines. So far it is looking like: 20 Jan - Fedora Alpha release 01 Feb - Visual concept for F11 decided 01 Mar - First draft wallpaper ready to package for Beta 10 Mar - Beta Freeze 02 Apr - splashes / rest of artwork done for packaging for preview release 14 Apr - final freeze 28 Apr - preview release 26 May - final release GA And what about that brainstorming session.. which irc channel will it be? when will it be held? We can do it right on this list. We're doing it right now :) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Art ideas for Fedora 11 (grub, boot, splashes, window decorations, button styles etc...)
Mark wrote: The new name is now known: Leonidas but my question for the theme still stands. So here is my initial post on this subject again: I don't think the themes of FC1-4 were particularly notable, and I do think it is worth discussing a new theme for F11. Nased on Leonidas we could do something related to water or something kind of nautical. - We could get some inspiration from traditional nautical tools, like compasses, navigational charts, telescope, all that kind of stuff. It could have a kind of steampunk look. - Or we can get some inspiration from water and water traffic. For example, imagine time lapse photos of a river in a city over the course of a day, with folks rowing crew in the morning, sailing in the afternoon, with tour/party boats coming through in the evening - for the time-lapse wallpaper. We could also have Fedora contributors around the world take photos of bodies of water near where they live and those could be a set of supplemental wallpapers. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 10 Media Art Font / editing SVG
Clint Savage wrote: Marland, I'm honestly not sure why this font set isn't included by default. There are a few head scratchers out there and this might be one. However, The font set you want is called mgopen. You can get it by installing it. As root, run: yum install mgopen-fonts In the future, if anyone doesn't remember the font name or how to get it, it's listed in the logo guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines#Complementary_Font ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Art ideas for Fedora 11 (grub, boot, splashes, window decorations, button styles etc...)
Mark wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote: Hi Mark, Mark wrote: So what do you think about this? Is it worth starting to make mockups? We are going to wait until the F11 codename is decided on (in a couple of weeks or so) until we decide what to do about the theme. A few of us discussed this earlier and felt that if we all worked on the same idea rather than each person working on a different idea, then we could all work together rather than separately and come up with a more collaborative, higher-quality theme. We are worried that the codename may not be so inspirational for a theme, but even if it isn't, we can have a meeting or some kind of brainstorming session where we can reach a nice, visually pleasing theme idea together to move forward with, inspired by the codename or not. So let's wait a couple of weeks and reach a decision together, is that okay? ~m Just opinions on the theme idea regardless of the name would be fine with me. I'm also fine with your suggestion. Could you send me a PM (so i'm sure that i don't miss it) with when and where (irc probably) the brainstorming session is. We haven't scheduled it yet, still waiting on the name to be decided on. I think sometime early in January, the exact date may be on the naming wiki page Paul posted a couple of weeks ago to this list. (Sorry I don't remember it off-hand) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Art ideas for Fedora 11 (grub, boot, splashes, window decorations, button styles etc...)
Hi Mark, Mark wrote: So what do you think about this? Is it worth starting to make mockups? We are going to wait until the F11 codename is decided on (in a couple of weeks or so) until we decide what to do about the theme. A few of us discussed this earlier and felt that if we all worked on the same idea rather than each person working on a different idea, then we could all work together rather than separately and come up with a more collaborative, higher-quality theme. We are worried that the codename may not be so inspirational for a theme, but even if it isn't, we can have a meeting or some kind of brainstorming session where we can reach a nice, visually pleasing theme idea together to move forward with, inspired by the codename or not. So let's wait a couple of weeks and reach a decision together, is that okay? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: T-shirt logo design tool
Hey Charlie, Charlie Brej wrote: Yeah, I accidentally reduced all fonts by 1 which effects the small fonts the most. (now fixed) I also just one of just the fedora logo http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/try4.png / http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/try4.svg Do you have the xpm files you used to make this version using the Fedora logo instead of the FUDcon logo? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
FUDCon Boston 2009 tshirt designs
Hi folks, Here's what I came up with over the weekend. I made the design two-color so hopefully it'll be cheaper to print (we may be able to save a little bit more if the fudcon logo on the front of the shirt is all white. I've attached a thumbnail showing what that would look like as well.) There's two main designs that are just different in the treatment of the back portion of the shirt. Let me know what you think of these. I'll be calling the printers this afternoon for a quote and to make sure they can produce them in time. design 1: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/1/17/Artwork_T(2d)Shirt_fudcon-boston-2009-1_design.png design 2: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/1/19/Artwork_T(2d)Shirt_fudcon-boston-2009-2_design.png (Wiki page is: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt#Boston_2009) ~m <>___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: T-shirt logo design tool
Hey Charlie, Charlie Brej wrote: Firstly, I am going to be at a meeting up in Edinburgh on Tuesday and Wednesday so depending on their internet connection I will probably be uncontactable till Wednesday evening (GMT). I have scripted the generation of the logo so if you pick up the latest version [1] there is a script (called "script") which should be pretty self-explanatory as to how to change the words in each leaf. There are some dummy words in it atm[2]. What would be better is, if we decide on the words before the end of today, I can generate it and manually poke the clumsy words into place and mane any other tweaks requested. I tried generating on my own tonight and had a lot of issues. I don't know if maybe I'm missing some *-devel packages? I get a lot of spew like this when I try to run make: /usr/include/glib-2.0/glib/gconvert.h:134: error: expected declaration specifiers before ‘gchar’ /usr/include/glib-2.0/glib/gconvert.h:136: error: expected declaration specifiers before ‘G_END_DECLS’ In file included from /usr/include/glib-2.0/glib.h:43, from wordlogo.c:6: /usr/include/glib-2.0/glib/gdataset.h:40: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘key_id’ /usr/include/glib-2.0/glib/gdataset.h:46: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘*’ token Screenfuls of it. :( I've attached my script file with a set of tags. Does it work for you? Do you know why it isn't working for me? ~m COMMONWORDS="fudcon fedora January 2009 MIT Massachusetts USA Boston" cp NE.xpm input.xpm make wordlogo # Words for the NE leaf nice ./wordlogo freedom "Freedom" "Freedom Trail" "Docs Project" "Boston Tea Party" "Paul Revere's Ride" "American Revolution" "State of the Wiki" "Asterisk and Fedora Talk" "File Systems, New and Used" "Build an Ambassador Kit" "Hackfest" "Fedora Event Splash" "Giving Wiki Love" $COMMONWORDS >NE.svg & sleep 1 cp SW.xpm input.xpm make wordlogo # Words for the SW leaf nice ./wordlogo features "Big Dig" "Quincy Market" "Boston Common" "Downtown Crossing" "Prudential Tower" "Emerald Necklace" "Back Bay" "Fenway Park" "North End" "Harvard Square" "Charles River" "Beacon Hill" "Comps" "Spins" "State of the Kernel" "Fedora security" $COMMONWORDS >SW.svg & sleep 1 cp NW.xpm input.xpm make wordlogo # Words for the NW leaf nice ./wordlogo friends "One Laptop Per Child" "OLPC" "Sugar Labs" "Free Software Foundation" "FUD Pub" "Git for Dummies" "Write Docs with DocBook XML" "Performance Tuning Renegade" "Public Speaking for Shy Bearded Hackers" "Package Grouping" "SELinux Policy" "EPEL improvements" $COMMONWORDS >NW.svg & sleep 1 cp SE.xpm input.xpm make wordlogo # Words for the SE leaf nice ./wordlogo first "First Public Library in the US" "America's First Public School" "Fire Truck Invented" "Small Pox Vaccine Invented" "Spring Bed Invented" "Truss-Type Bridge Invented" "Stereoscopic X-Rays Invented" "First College in America" "First Subway in the US" "Fluff Invented" "Configuration Management" "The Once and Future Anaconda" "Booting" $COMMONWORDS >SE.svg & sleep 1 wait echo '' > final.svg echo 'http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"; width="1600" height="1600">' >> final.svg grep --no-filename text NW.svg NE.svg SW.svg SE.svg >> final.svg echo '' >> final.svg echo done ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Email
Hi, dustin wrote: 1512pur...@comcast.net What are you trying to do? Are you trying to subscribe to fedora-art-list? Try: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Fedora Design & Creative Team (Art Team reorg?)
Hi folks, Just an idea: The Fedora Art Team's name and focus is more on artwork than UI design. Folks in Fedora who need help with UI design or potential contributors who want to help out with UI design might not necessarily link those kinds of tasks to an art team so they might be a bit lost. What if we renamed the art team to be the 'Fedora Design & Creative Team,' and the art team as it is now would be a subgroup of this new design team? Under a 'design' banner, it might be easier for developers seeking out UI design advice to know where to go, and for community UI designers to find a home / a place to get involved. It would be a little strange I think to form a separate 'design' or 'UI design' team from the art team, because I think the two need to work close together to work well, and I don't think the usability SIG is really appropriate - usability is more the QA of UI design work, you know? Although maybe the usability SIG could be incorporated into a larger design team as well... In #fedora-art earlier today, we were thinking "Design & Creative" would be good, because design represents the emphasis on following good design practices and ability to work on UI design work, while creative can encompass the typical branding and artwork tasks we take on as well as perhaps in the future expand to sound and video work. Maybe it could be 'Fedora Creative Design Team' to emphasize the nature of the design work we do (e.g. we're not designing software architecture or anything like that.) I was wondering what other art team members think of this idea and if they would be willing to support a renaming of the team and this explicit broadening of our scope? Thanks, ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: T-shirt logo design tool
Máirín Duffy wrote: Charlie Brej wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: Paul W. Frields wrote: Example: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/try3.png http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/try3.svg Wow, that's pretty cool! Any idea whether this would reproduce faithfully at the T-shirt printer? I guess some of the smallest fonts are to small, not sure about the print, but they will be impossible to read. Maybe adding a stroke will help with this too. Yeah, I accidentally reduced all fonts by 1 which effects the small fonts the most. (now fixed) I also just one of just the fedora logo http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/try4.png / http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/try4.svg Wow this is beautiful!!! Does anyone have any suggestions for the list of tags that we use? One idea we had in #fedora-art yesterday was to use the tags to not only give the basic info (january 2009, fudcon, boston, etc) but to relate the host city to the four f's of fedora... freedom (could be used for historical or current freedom-related events): boston freedom trail, boston tea party, paul revere's ride ... ? features (could be used for landmarks or cultural points of interest): big dig, zakim bridge, prudential center, museum of fine arts ... ? friends (famous people in the city or maybe from the city area?): mayor thomas menino, governor deval patrick, sen. edward kennedy, john f. kennedy ... ? first (things the city was first at, things that were invented there, etc): first public library in the US, fire truck invented, small pox vaccine invented, spring bed invented, truss-type bridge invented, stereoscopic x-rays invented ... ? What do you think of this idea? One thing that might be cool too is each of the four bubbles of the fudcon logo is associated with one of the four f's so all the tags that relate to freedom could go in one particular fudcon logo bubble... or we could just use the Fedora logo. Either way :) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: T-shirt logo design tool
Charlie Brej wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: Paul W. Frields wrote: Example: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/try3.png http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/try3.svg Wow, that's pretty cool! Any idea whether this would reproduce faithfully at the T-shirt printer? I guess some of the smallest fonts are to small, not sure about the print, but they will be impossible to read. Maybe adding a stroke will help with this too. Yeah, I accidentally reduced all fonts by 1 which effects the small fonts the most. (now fixed) I also just one of just the fedora logo http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/try4.png / http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/try4.svg Wow this is beautiful!!! Does anyone have any suggestions for the list of tags that we use? One idea we had in #fedora-art yesterday was to use the tags to not only give the basic info (january 2009, fudcon, boston, etc) but to relate the host city to the four f's of fedora... freedom (could be used for historical or current freedom-related events): boston freedom trail, boston tea party, paul revere's ride ... ? features (could be used for landmarks or cultural points of interest): big dig, zakim bridge, prudential center, museum of fine arts ... ? friends (famous people in the city or maybe from the city area?): mayor thomas menino, governor deval patrick, sen. edward kennedy, john f. kennedy ... ? first (things the city was first at, things that were invented there, etc): first public library in the US, fire truck invented, small pox vaccine invented, spring bed invented, truss-type bridge invented, stereoscopic x-rays invented ... ? What do you think of this idea? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 - Improved templates?
hi Klaatu! Klaatu wrote: i think this is a cool idea and would like to do a few. does anyone know if there are special requirements in terms of fonts we could actually use and expect upstream to definitely have? or is it permissable to simply use any font within a given family and assume it will all look approx. the same regardless of what system it is being used on? I think we should only assume users will have access to the fonts packaged for Fedora proper. If we use a font that isn't included in the default live media installation, then we should require the Fedora font package needed. Does that make sense? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
F11 - Improved templates?
Hey folks, I was wondering if anyone else would be interested in finding and developing nice-looking, general-purpose templates we could then package up for programs like OpenOffice.org Writer, OpenOffice.org Impress, Scribus, Inkscape, Gimp, etc. Some of the templates shipped with these and other apps aren't as good as they could be. We could also submit these upstream. What do you think? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: CD faces
Jarod Wen wrote: Thanks to ~m for your time to upload them onto the our wiki. Next time I will know how to do it :) I also recreated them in Scribus in order to provide CMYK pdf files for the printers. If you need help with this for future designs, let me know! ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo Perspective] New folder design concept
Martin Sourada wrote: Hi, I've just finished first take of the folder design for Echo Perspective [1]. I do not hide that the design has been inspired by Mac OS X Leopard folder as well as current Echo folder. I've more or less retained the original colour, but adjusted it to better fit with our colour palette. :( It retains the thing I disliked the most about the old echo folder - that weird curved bend. I have never seen a folder that looked like that and it makes it seems cartoony like a folder from toontown. If it's meant to be straight but bent, it needs shading to indicate that. I think though, better to have a much more straight line than that weird bow. At least lessen the curve, you know? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: CD faces
Jayme Ayres wrote: Ok Updated Why Intel? and AMD processors? is the processor in my laptop!! :' -( ... It´s a joke =) Wow! This looks great! It looks like you added another layer of flares? Nice! :) Can you add it to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F10#Official_Artwork ? :-D ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: CD faces
Paul W. Frields wrote: Well we say "Intel-compatible PCs" on the Get Fedora page. Would it be okay to go with that? Sounds great to me. I can do the final fixes/cleanup work to Jarod's excellent work to switch the text. Cool, thanks! Once you feel good about the results, just shout and I'll let the Ambassadors know. Should be all set now: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F10 ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: CD faces
Jayme Ayres wrote: Updated: http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora/f10/fedora10-CD-DVD-jayme1.png http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora/f10/fedora10-CD-DVD-jayme2.png Okay one other thing I'm noticing is for the arch, we're standardizing on 'for Intel-Compatible PCs' rather than x86. Can you update that? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: CD faces
Hi Jayme, Jayme Ayres wrote: Hi folks, I have had some ideas for the DVD label and have done two designs. http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora/f10/fedora10-CD-DVD-jayme1.png http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora/f10/fedora10-CD-DVD-jayme2.png These are very nice! I really like how the flares have been integrated in to the design. One glaring issue though is that you can't put a keyline around the Fedora logo like that. You have to find another way to make it stand out against the background or even remove it (since there is already a fedora logo in the center right maybe the 10 could be added there and the top of the disc left blank?) Some other points of critique I hope you'll find helpful: - The font around the edge of the disc doesn't look like MgOpen Modata. - You might want to tweak the smaller Fedora logo in the center right closer towards the flames (or maybe pull the flame in a bit more) so the entirety of the Fedora infinity logomark is on top of the light blue and is discernable from the background. - I wouldn't use the . in "10." I would take it out for the label. Also, just as a note, as I had mentioned yesterday on the list, I already had the basic designs for the disc labels done - we had decided back during F9 to go with a standard label design to simplify printing moving forward. However, that design is meant for the professionally-done screen printed version of the discs. This design, with the fixes above, would be a fine alternative for folks looking to print smaller runs on their own equipment. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 10 release banner
Hey Jayme! Jayme Ayres wrote: Sorry but I attach the file in the message Based on the ideas of Mo did a background imitating Brushed steel. http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora/f10/fedora10-0day-banner_jayme_flames.png This looks good! (and way more like metal :) ) The only critique I have besides it looking awesome, is I think the Fedora logo is a bit large in proportion to the rest. (It feels like it doesn't have much breathing space between it and the screenshots) Maybe try making the logo smaller, or just using the logomark without the 'fedora' text? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 10 release banner
Paul W. Frields wrote: On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 13:05 +0100, Hylke Bons wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Nicu Buculei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Paolo Leoni wrote: This is a possible release banner (big): http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora10-0day-banner.svg http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora10-0day-banner.png Not bad at all! For better variety, it may be a good idea to have one of those screenshots showing Anaconda (more grey, less blue) and *not* have the right and left screenshots at the same Y coordinate (move one of them a few pixels down, to look more random). Also, I would make the "10" thicker by adding a 2 or 3 px white stroke. I don't think having Anaconda in there makes sense. You probably only see the installer once anyway. Perhaps, but Nicu has a good point that there should be something to break up the color monotony. It could be a firstboot screen, for example. Or maybe one or two large windows of colorful applications, like a OOo3 pie chart and/or an art program. Maybe let the screenshots sit on a silver/metal background with some glow/reflections? There's just too many blue suns here.. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Logo History
Paul W. Frields wrote: On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 11:01 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: It turns out the original pages on the creation of the Fedora logo, once located at http://capstrat.com/development/fedora/index.php, are gone. I took some time to grab what I could from archive.org and reconstruct it here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/History Good work Mo! I remember there being some controversy over the design when it first came out, but now when I look at it I can't imagine our using anything else. Well the word mark not using an open font has always bothered me... :) Other than that I can agree. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Fedora Logo History
It turns out the original pages on the creation of the Fedora logo, once located at http://capstrat.com/development/fedora/index.php, are gone. I took some time to grab what I could from archive.org and reconstruct it here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/History ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Early review
Paul W. Frields wrote: On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 05:18:11PM +0100, Samuele Storari wrote: Yes I saw this post this morning, i'm very proud to see that a lot of people likes Solar. I'm happy that a lot of people collaborate to create solar, in the last week a lot of people tune up Solar very well. Sorry about duplicating the earlier post -- I was still working my way through my incoming email when I sent it. Charlie pointed these out in #fedora-art: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6111256 http://ostatic.com/176574-blog/upcoming-fedora-10-release-has-style-and-substance ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
María's Awesome Gimp Videos
Hey, María shared these with us in #fedora-art today and I wanted to post them to the list so everyone could see: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=tatadbb&view=videos ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Art Studio Spin?
Jeff Spaleta wrote: Is there interest in building a spin which is myopically focused on the art designer? Is the desktop oriented livecd good enough.. or is there room for a yet more focused spin for the designer usage case? And if so, can it be done inside the existing Fedora repository space without reaching for external bits? So I did a bit of work around this, this weekend. And, yeah, I think there are a lot of value-add bits like fonts and brushes and the like that would make it really awesome. Essential? Necessary? No, but... I'd be interested in making a spin that is basically a dream Fedora for me :) * Here's some of the general planning stuff I did in general about the spin: http://mihmo.livejournal.com/45531.html More specifically, here's the wiki page where I started writing down some plans: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ArtTeamProjects/FedoraArtStudio What's done thus far: * Some (quite messy) notes towards a package manifeset: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ArtTeamProjects/FedoraArtStudio/PackageManifest * I looked for potential fonts we could include. There are LOTS. Some are pretty neat. Most are not already in Fedora so we'd have to get them packaged up: http://mihmo.livejournal.com/45152.html * Michael and I looked through a bunch of clip art from openclipart.org and picked out some we thought might be good to include (feel free to pull stuff out you don't think is good enough or push stuff in you think is great for inclusion): http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ArtTeamProjects/FedoraArtStudio/Clipart * I went through a ton of Gimp and Photoshop (easily converted to gbr) brushes looking for Creative Commons Attribution and Attribution Share Alike brushes. The full list of what I found thus far is here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ArtTeamProjects/FedoraArtStudio/Brushes (One worry - if a brush is sharealike, and i create an awesome piece of art with it, does that awesome piece of art have to be sharealike? If so, if we include sharealike brushes - folks using Fedora Art Studio have to know which are which so they know how to license their derivative works??? Or does a brush not count unless you make derivative brushes off of it?) * Got a small start at finding some CC-licensed textures: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ArtTeamProjects/FedoraArtStudio/PatternsTextures Feel free to jump in on any of this if it piques your interest! ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Icon howto?
Jonathan Roberts wrote: Hey, thanks for the reply :D Some answers to your questions: file formats - png for most icons, svg for scalable icons sizes - 16x16, 22x22, 24x24, 32x32, 48x48, the bigger you will probably not need I figure producing them as svg means I can just export to whatever size I want? Only thing is, when I've exported icons I've already created, or simply viewed them as svg (thumbnail previews) they haven't looked as sharp as when I've produced them, instead looking slightly blurred. Is there any reason why this is? (using inkscape) Yes. You need to align them to the pixel grid. You can't simply draw it once and export it to whatever sizes... you have to align the artwork to the pixel grid for every size. Some references: http://www.firewheeldesign.com/sparkplug/2006/April/icon_design_bitmap_vs_vector.php http://mezzoblue.com/archives/2007/07/11/icon_design/ http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Creating_Icons/ ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: animated backgrounds
Matthias Clasen wrote: Yeah, the man page says: tm_hour The number of hours past midnight, in the range 0 to 23. Oh I didn't know there was one! What's the name of the man page? (It would be good to have some artist-friendly documentation of how to do this in the wiki since I think it's going to get a lot of people excited.) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: animated backgrounds
Hi Matthias! Matthias Clasen wrote: On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 16:23 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: I put together an xml file for the animation based on the format for gnome-desktop-2.19.90-4: http://people.redhat.com/duffy/artwork/infinity-24/00-fedora-infinity-background.xml Nice. But I think you want a) the starttime to be midnight and b) the durations of the static images to be 2700 and the transitions to be 900, so that it actually sums up to 24 hours. Yeh, I screwed it up. I wasn't sure what exactly the relationships of the numbers were and I didn't realize until I already built the package. To be midnight the starttime's hour would have to be 0, so 12 is actually 12 pm? Does it matter what year-month-date is there? I did each one using gradients and layer blending modes in the Gimp over top of the main background image. The source is here (warning: it's quite large): http://people.redhat.com/duffy/artwork/infinity-24/00-background.xcf Unfortunately, there is very noticeable banding in the images. Yeh. Because it's a significant amount of effort to produce them (this set took over 4 hours of manual tweaking), I figured these are a good first cut to make sure the colors work out and to get more eyes on the background transition stuff. In time for test 3, I can go in layer-by-layer (because each image is actually an alpha-gradient adjustment layer over the original artwork in a gimp file) and manually smooth each gradient. I thought that would be a significant amount of time and effort to do when I wasn't sure I picked the right colors and I really wanted something in test 2... does that make sense? (I already ended up changing colors a few times to make the transitions more smooth / colors more natural when I showed this around to people, and I expect to get more feedback once more people try them out. I hope this was an ok approach?) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
F8 artwork update
Hey folks, So a little bit of news on the Fedora 8 artwork front. First, since we had the most 'votes' on list for Infinity and since Ben simply ran out of time this go-round [1], it seems to make sense to go with Infinity especially since we are so short on time (tomorrow, er it's late... today is the code freeze for F8 test 2.) We started working on getting artwork checked in for test 2. Tonight, the firstboot banner & splash, the grub splash, and the new RHGB theme got checked in. Tomorrow (er... later today lol) I'm going to work on getting the wallpaper, syslinux, and anaconda artwork checked in. The only absolutely essential artwork we do not have checked in or ready to check in for F8 test 2 is GDM. I'm not sure what to do about it; Avio [2] looks nice - what do you think if we used that with a theme-specific background? Does anybody have any other ideas for GDM? As an absolute fallback we can go with the current one and simply replace the Flying High background as Nicu suggested. It doesn't look bad, but I'd like to see something different if we can do it. If anybody has a mockup I can implement it so we're not bound to use something that's already been implemented. Other stuff that's not super essential but nice-to-have and hopefully we'll have ready for test 3: - gnome splash - kde splash - multi-colored multiple backgrounds for the time-of-day feature mclasen mentioned earlier. (actually I have some prepared already so if I have some time tomorrow I'll see if I can get any of those in) Beyond this, there's still a lot of work to do so if anyone is interested in working on any of the following (or anything above for that matter) please feel free to jump in! :) - Round 4: default firefox theme - banner / layout - every time someone opens up firefox in Fedora 8 they will see this page! default httpd 'welcome to your fedora webserver' page - every time someone starts up a Fedora httpd webserver for the first time this will be the page their system serves up. - Round 5: F8 marketing materials discussion with fedora-marketing-list... come up with a slogan for our new theme, and promotional graphic ideas, maybe brainstorm what's needed for the promotional kit (see round 7) - Round 6: finalize artwork/design for F8 DVD/CD labels and sleeves. These will be printed up professionally and will be available at conferences likely worldwide. They also may be used by magazines that distribute Fedora 8. So if you want to learn about designing DVD/CD labels for professional screenprinting (I'm thinking this time let's do something cool with leaving parts of the design blank for the silver of the disc to show through), or if you'd rather come up with a nice logo Fedora users everywhere can print out on an inkjet printer, help out with this one :) - Round 7: release promo kit with nicely-designed PDF release notes for handing out at conferences, etc (good excuse to try out Scribus!!) - Round 8: finalize www.fedoraproject.org promotional materials for F8 launch ~m [1] (Ben, we can resurrect Abstract for F9 if you want to propose it again... and feel free to jump in on the other rounds for F8 if/when you're less busy!) [2] http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=37395 ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 3 Default Artwork Decision
Nicu Buculei wrote: This attached mockup (I never did a RHGB screen before) is how I think it should look like: plain and simple but nice and with the same theme. Nicu, I used your mockup to create an image and tried it out in RHGB - it looks *really* slick. The only thing is that I can't change the background color without rebuilding the package so I'm going to get some help on that. Can't seem to take a screenshot either... sigh :) By the way, I have updated the grub artwork, added syslinux, and also the firstboot artwork for Infinity. I was thinking about basing the GDM theme on Avio - with some overhaul of the buttons displayed (I think it displays too many, and the button artwork clashses with our style): http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=37395 ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 3 Default Artwork Decision
Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Please check with the desktop group, I think at least some of those won't be needed by the new F8 boot process I didn't notice you cc'ed another list and missed a large part of the conversation since I am not subscribed to fedora-desktop list. :( ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Fedora Infinity Lighter Touch(was Re: Fedora Infinity Update)
Máirín Duffy wrote: Hey folks, I've been playing around with the Fedora Infinity wallpaper this weekend trying to get something I felt really comfortable with because I felt that what we had at the end of round 2 just didn't have the level of polish and 'bling' I think we were hoping for. Think less bling and even more minimalistic with more muted coloring: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes/Infinity/Round3Scratch#head-0a9599c1325bcd011a560deee06efb1f6e5314a1 Is this too corporate-looking? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Infinity Update
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: This sounds like a bit of an urban myth? I've never heard of this and I've a design degree - I would love to know where you've heard this? Purple is the Gentoo color. See http://gentoo.org including their icon theme. Isn't it kind of silly to reject any single color because of its symbolic meaning to another distro? Even SLES has used blue as the primary color in some of its themes: http://jimmac.musichall.cz/themesets.php The purple is an accent color, not the primary color. If we were to reject particular colors because of their symbolic meaning elsewhere, we'd have no colors left to work with. Also, Gentoo doesn't have much to do with this part of the thread? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Infinity Update
Nicolas Mailhot wrote: In a previous life I helped organise an event. We organised a competition to choose the picture that would appear on brochures, leaflets, ads, etc The design winner was purplish (with a bluish gradient, just like your mokups). The print shop warned us this was not a popular colour and we'd be well advised to ask the designer to change the main tone. We went through anyway. On hindsight this was a mistake - we had many remarks on the colour, and even today I have mixed feelings when I look at the art material I kept as a remembrance (esp compared to the ones produced by the teams that organised the previous and next iterations) Since then I've looked twice whenever I encounter purple artwork. I've found out the print shop was right - it is very rarely used, and when it is it's predominently with a hard contrasting colour (black, silver, white) to tone down the purple impression. The very few cases I've seen it in a big gradient were somehow less than optimal just like our own attempt. Ah okay. I am intending to add a lot more of the darker blue color to the gradient anyway but was just curious because this is just something I've not ever heard. Was it the same shade of purple? Or was it a more violet / reddish-hued purple? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Infinity Update
Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le Lun 13 août 2007 08:47, Jiri Jakub Masek a écrit : Hi Máirín, I like them, the fourth is the best, the third looks good but I can't accept the perspective of *pyramid steps*, it needs more work on dimensions to look naturally, I think... I'm afraid I'm going to complain about colours again :) Purple is to be used very sparingly in artwork. You'll almost never see largely purple pages in ads or magazines, because that's a colour many people don't react well too (learnt it the hard way a few years ago). Seems we're wired to associate purple with sickness. This sounds like a bit of an urban myth? I've never heard of this and I've a design degree - I would love to know where you've heard this? If you do purple you need a very contrasting colour so the result does not appear predominantly purple. That or a red fringing. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Infinity Update
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Hey folks, I've been playing around with the Fedora Infinity wallpaper this weekend trying to get something I felt really comfortable with because I felt that what we had at the end of round 2 just didn't have the level of polish and 'bling' I think we were hoping for. Anyway this is what I ended up with: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes/Infinity/Round3Scratch What do you think? Would you mind posting some screenshots with the rawhide window manager and icon themes? It would be good to see how that looks. I don't actually run rawhide (I don't have much of an option) but if you do I would appreciate the screenshot. I think thps steps should stand out more prominently. See, I don't think that's a good idea. If they were anymore prominent, they'd be too distracting for a background - too much contrast. I like the first one because the "infinity" part of it distinctly stand out and the third one because the stars add more perspective to the other plain purple sky. Okay, I think I may try the new stars/bling with the first one and see how that looks. On my blog comments though it appears the bridge artwork is wildly unpopular... but it would be worth it to see how it looks. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Fedora Infinity Update
Hey folks, I've been playing around with the Fedora Infinity wallpaper this weekend trying to get something I felt really comfortable with because I felt that what we had at the end of round 2 just didn't have the level of polish and 'bling' I think we were hoping for. Anyway this is what I ended up with: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes/Infinity/Round3Scratch What do you think? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Generic Logos - was: Re: Round 3
Nicu Buculei wrote: I guess so, but for this we will need to produce graphics which work well with and without the logo (it is not the case with "Abstract"). I don't think Bill or Seth are on this list, so where do we talk with them? Seth is skvidal and Bill is notting on freenode irc, they're generally pretty easy to get a hold of that way (although of course during US East Coast hours)... I can ping them tomorrow and fill you guys in on what we talked about? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Generic Logos - was: Re: Round 3
Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: What does everybody think about round 3? As "Generic Logos" [1] got approved as a feature for F8, how this will influence our work? We will de-brand as much as we can from the graphics? We will two parallel set of graphics? Both? Let's talk to Bill and/or Seth and figure out what they want to do. It should be easy enough to produce artwork that simply does not have the logo, for example. That should be sufficient? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Nodoka Theme] Are we going to finally enable it?
Martin Sourada wrote: Test 1 is out, feature freeze and Test 2 are approaching, Nodoka theme is visually more or less complete and I noticed it moved to CategoryApprovedFedora8 [1]. So, as the packages are already in rawhide it's now only a matter of enabling it by default. What you think? Who's the person who can actually do it? I am actually not sure. Let me ask around but if anybody else knows please speak up! Is it OK enabling Echo together with it or I should rather change the metatheme to use the Fedora/Mist icon theme (default in Fedora 7)? Echo's not ready for F8. I say let's change it to Mist. We discussed this earlier on-list and folks seemed okay with it so let's do it. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 3
Nicu Buculei wrote: We are a couple of days after 6 August, the end date for Round 2 for themes. As the feature freeze date and deadline for Round 3 is approaching fast (20 August) and a lot of work will be needed, I'll do my usual thing: step on our team leader toes (hoping she will not mind much) and start the talk about Round 3. Thanks Nicu, I was too late :) Thanks for picking up my slack! We had a simple criteria "any ideas that don't have fully fleshed-out and polished artwork, at least 1 wallpaper and let's say 3 supporting graphics, will be out of the running at this point" and from 6 themes we had in Round 1 only two meet it: Infinity and Abstract. It's probably good at this point that we only have 2 qualifying. There is a LOT of work to be done so if we have only 2 to work on it lessens the amount of work spent I think. What does everybody think about round 3? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Virtual FudCon
Nicu Buculei wrote: I just read about the Virtual FudCon - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JefSpaleta/VirtualFudCon and I think it would be cool for the Art Team to take part in some way. It is somewhat aligned with the end of Round 2 for the wallpaper theme, so maybe someone want to talk about this or maybe about Nodoka or Echo. Also we can try to get our own hackfest with work on Nodoka, wallpapers, icons, mascots, website layout, whatever. AWESOME IDEA! Let's do it... I love the hackfest idea, and the F8 theme session idea too - we can make it a general 'come find out what the art team's been up to' session. We can show off Nodoka, and we can show off the theme ideas that made it past round 2 and discuss the ideas behind them and get some feedback from folks outside of the team hopefully! Does anybody have other suggestions for sessions? Who can commit to running the sessions / participating? We can try to work out times that might work for all the interested parties? I want to help run and/or participate in anything we decide to do. The hours that would work best for me are any time between: 1200 UTC (8 AM EDT) => 0500 UTC (1 AM EDT) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Round 2 Deadline for F8 Artwork Approaching
Hey Fedora Artists! So, the original Round 2 deadline was this Wednesday, Aug 1, but I extended it to Monday August 6 (I hope you folks don't mind!) so we could have one more weekend to work on things and get stuff polished. As a reminder, here are the requirements for a theme proposal to pass round 2: "Any ideas that don't have fully fleshed-out and polished artwork, at least 1 wallpaper and let's say 3 supporting graphics, will be out of the running at this point." "Supporting artwork" means a vertical banner for firstboot, a horizontal banner for anaconda, a login screen mockup, a banner for fedoraproject.org, a CD label design, etc. So to make round 3, make sure you have at least 3 of those in addition to any wallpaper artwork you've done. Here is the list of themes currently participating in round 2: 1. Infinity 2. Abstract 3. Moon 4. Thunder 5. Feng Shui 6. Floating Cubes (Fireworks didn't make the deadline for round 1. Nodoka isn't an artwork theme, it's an application/window manager theme so it's not part of this process.) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Tangofied Fedora Logo Icon
Hi Peter, Peter Gordon wrote: Art List, Essentially the issue is that there is a Tango-ified Fedora logo [1] that I'd like to include in a downstream package of the Tango icon theme instead of the default pair of feet as the icon for the GNOME main menu; but I am attempting to get it approved legally, since it is a trademark of the Fedora Project and I do not want to abuse or violate any of the trademark guidelines. I am the maintainer of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] queue and I approve logo requests. Your usage of the logo seems fine to me; can you send me a formal request for using the Fedora logo at [EMAIL PROTECTED] so I have a record of your request & approval? Thanks, ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F8 Theme Proposal] Fedora Infinity
Nicu Buculei wrote: So here is the experiment I sketched: take the "infinite structure" image, strip it of all details and leave only the metaphor and a few gradients of light and shadow, in the spirit of simplicity we talked about in other designs. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes/Infinity?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=infinite_structure.png Probably it could get back some more details and shades. Hey, so here's my expansion on what you did with the bridge, Nicu! (been a long time coming, sorry about that!) What do you think? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes/Infinity?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=infinite_structure.2_thumb.png (on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes/Infinity, svg available link on that page) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Good News On the Fedora 8 Theme & Decisions
Daniel Geiger wrote: Several thoughts: The Echo icon theme doesn't seem to me like it would work as the F8 default icon theme unless used with the Nodoka theme; the Echo icons somehow seem immature otherwise. So, I guess I would see Echo having a dependence on Nodoka, actually. I think Echo + Nodoka would work quite well, if the Echo icon theme is made complete enough. I also don't see any need to change the default Bluecurve mouse cursor theme. It appears you've literally an rpm dependency in the nodoka-theme-gnome-0.3.1.1-1.fc7.noarch.rpm rpm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Desktop]$ sudo rpm -Uvh nodoka-theme-gnome-0.3.1.1-1.fc7.noarch.rpm error: Failed dependencies: echo-icon-theme is needed by nodoka-theme-gnome-0.3.1.1-1.fc7.noarch I think that should be removed then? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F8 theme: Fire Work and Light Show by Jiri
Hi Danial, Danial wrote: Indeed. My own submissions were stopped by errors in the wiki/license agreement registration process a single day before deadline. At Rahul's suggestion, both the wiki admin and Mairin were sent emails regarding the problem. To date, neither have replied. I therefore assumed the process was closed. After deadline I quit pursuing the issue. Perhaps that was an error? I've been out of town for over a week to teach a course in Inkscape at Red Hat High. I am now at home for a few hours before flying out to the UK for GUADEC. So I apologize if I haven't been particularly responsive on-list or via private email lately. That being said, I have been checking my email, and I can find no such email in my inbox as I search right now. I have an email from you on 2 July but I'm guessing what I'm looking for was sent 10 July? Can you give me the subject line or some other clue to find it? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: The process is confusing, the red tape frustrating.
John Baer wrote: A topic as important as this may need a wiki page explaining what is desired and examples of how to meet the desired result. I believe most of us want to do the right thing but some need a little additional help. How about we instead talk about it on list as we are now and in the future do the same when we think there's an issue? Creating yet another policy document on the wiki when there already is one (the CLA) that nobody will read anyway (since apparently folks are not reading the CLA :( ) I don't think will solve the issue as well as open, honest, and respectful communication (which I surely hope this thread has turned out to be.) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: The process is confusing, the red tape frustrating.
btw John Baer wrote: Ok, fair enough ... However, how would you or I know if the artwork is original? Is it safe to assume it is unless otherwise stated? No, it's not; if you're going to use something that isn't explicitly licensed for your use, you have to do the legwork to make sure it's okay or avoid using it. For Mola's first submission, for example, I had a conversation with him to confirm that his work was original (it was indeed; the one thing was that he made use of a gimp brush but it was very openly licensed and used in such a way that I do not think it would affect the license of the final creation. He gave me a link to the brush (from deviantart) and the author of the brush and both were fine.) I would never blast you the way Nicu blasted me, ? I'm not sure what you're referring to here. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: The process is confusing, the red tape frustrating.
John Baer wrote: I would never blast you the way Nicu blasted me, but I assume the photo's on your submission are yours as you have not made a statement of attribution. Do you need to? ;) I state pretty clearly on my proposal: "Here are some examples from photos I have taken from a number of places" I take attribution and licensing very seriously. Finally, wouldn't these rules apply to all forms of artwork? Yes, they do! ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: The process is confusing, the red tape frustrating.
John Baer wrote: More curious than anything else. If we are Ok with the creative commons license, http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/ , then what does #7 of the CLA need in order to be satisfied? I'm not a lawyer, but the CLA itself seems to suggest: "you may submit it to the Project separately from any Contribution, identifying the complete details of its source and of any license or other restriction" which would be pretty much what I was hoping you would be willing to do - identify the author and its license, Creative Commons or not. As it turns out I'm not a lawyer either and I don't understand it. Even though I am not a lawyer I feel the language is pretty clear. Also, I do not believe the practice of using other's work without citing it, even if it's scratch work, in a public forum is really acceptable just out of respect for other artists, you know? Even here when we build on each other's work I've noticed we've been very good about stating whose works we built upon. I think it's a good practice even outside of the fact that the CLA requires it, honestly. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F8 Theme Proposal] Fedora Feng Shu
John Baer wrote: More curious than anything else. If we are Ok with the creative commons license, http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/ , then what does #7 of the CLA need in order to be satisfied? I'm not a lawyer, but the CLA itself seems to suggest: "you may submit it to the Project separately from any Contribution, identifying the complete details of its source and of any license or other restriction" which would be pretty much what I was hoping you would be willing to do - identify the author and its license, Creative Commons or not. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F8 Theme Proposal] Fedora Feng Shui
John Baer wrote: To the best of my knowledge the photo's I did not personally take would meet the licensing terms of the wiki and open source. I would never suggest we use someone's effort without their approval. If this is true you didn't have to take them down, but you should link to the place where you got them with that licensing information. Of course you wouldn't suggest using something without someone's approval, but you may want to review the contributor's license agreement that you signed back when you were given wiki access, specifically #7: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Licenses/CLA ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
round 1 deadline approaching
Hi folks! The deadline for round 1 is next Wednesday. So if you've got some ideas, set up a wiki page here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes And let us know about it on the list! ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F8 Theme Proposal] Fedora Feng Shui
John Baer wrote: Thanks for the comments. At this early stage I just wanted to see which style had the most appeal. Even thought this is the early stages, you still need to respect the licenses and the rights of the authors of any works you've borrowed that are not your own. Please attribute these photos to their authors, and with their license. If their license conflicts with our wiki, please remove the photos from the wiki and link to them instead. Else, I will remove the photos from the wiki by next Friday. We need to be very concerned about licensing issues is all. It's fine to link to things that are hosted externally as Nicu suggested, but we shouldn't be lifting photos and uploading them to the wiki without permission. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Here are some of my ideas for Fedora 8 and Fedora 9
Valent Turkovic wrote: Well I would argue that the people who remove it are a minority, not the other way around. I have seen beagle installed on multiple systems and it is as unobtrusive as an app can be. I have tested it on Fedora Core6, multiple Fedora 7 installations and now I'm testing it on Rawhide. So I have extensive experience with beagle. This thread isn't on topic for this list at all. Can you look for a more appropriate list? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F8 Theme Proposal] Fedora Infinity
Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 00:47 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: See the full proposal at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes/Infinity I like the idea, but you're going to have to be careful with the specific imagery. I looked at that page, and vertigo kicked in as soon as I saw the first image there. I'm hardly alone in feeling that way, so images like that are best avoided. Sure, a sharp perspective is only one of the ideas there for representing the idea. The rendering would have to be done carefully if that approach was taken. The ocean horizon pictures should not have that effect, for an example of a different approach suggested there. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
[F8 Theme Proposal] Fedora Infinity
Hi folks, Here's a theme concept I've been mulling overly for the past few weeks. The slogan for it could be: "Fedora: Infinite Boundaries" Freedom, community, and infinity are the three basic concepts that are represented in the Fedora logo. The basic concept for this theme is that Fedora, as the leading Linux distro, is always pushing the boundaries of technology. Because we're always pushing forward, we're always glimpsing into the infinite. See the full proposal at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes/Infinity ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder
Nicu Buculei wrote: As you may know, we have an open process [1] for submitting artwork proposals for Fedora 8. Thank you Nicu for reminding us about the deadlines and driving this forward! I have been hesitant to start really driving this because I was hoping I could get you all a more firm answer on whether or not the artwork would definitely be considered as the default theme. Since I have not been able to do that, and we are quickly running out of time, here is the one thing I can promise you: I will definitely find a way to package and make easily installable at least some of the artwork we come up with if it isn't considered for the default artwork. Let's just focus on coming up with the best theme we can. The *tentative* deadline for the first round [2] is approaching fast, in one week and we don't have yet *any* formal submission. With a tight schedule for F8 I think this date may slip, but only with a few days. I've slipped the schedule a bit: I added revised dates and the full set of Art Team milestones for F8 to the wiki page Nicu set up earlier: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes So the new deadline for the first round, which is just are the concept proposals, is Wednesday, July 11th. So do not be afraid and send your proposals, Fedora needs you! +1 Also, if there was a proposal from the Fedora 7 process that didn't make it that you liked, feel free to propose it for F8. I also understand some of may not be very happy with what happened at le last release, but I believe we learned a lot from that experience and can do better this time. Yep, let's focus on coming up with the best artwork we can and blow everyone away with it. :) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora's kde custom rubber band (the selection box)
Stefan S. wrote: Here (http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=16962) you can find a patch which among other things add a modern semi-transparent rubber band to kde. What I wanted to know is how Fedora does this? I couldn't find any patch in those srpms. Maybe it's a patch to X? The rubber band looks the same in GNOME as in that screenshot of KDE. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
metacity theme mockup
I was doodling in Inkscape and came up with this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MairinDuffy/Sandbox I made the buttons wide so they would be easy to click on; I gave them narrow margins with the titlebar to give the feeling that they were quite large to make them feel more clickable. I'm not quite happy with the indented button; not quite sure what's wrong with it. Anyway the Inkscape SVG is there, if anybody is interested in working on it or using parts of it feel free. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Where is the Fedora "3d" logo?
Mark wrote: Hey, a while ago someone posted some really nice Fedora logo`s here. with some nice 3d like things in it. i probably have it in my historie somewhere but with a few 1000 threads it`s extremely hard to find. anyone knows where i can find it? I bet you're thinking of Mola's artwork: http://mola-mp.deviantart.com/gallery/ ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F8 artwork
Ben Arnold wrote: On 08/06/07, Nicu Buculei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If I understand you correctly, the tagline is related to the graphic theme (DNA - Evolved, FlyingHigh - Reach higher) I did, to be honest, miss this idea completely! I think it could be fun to have a caption competition open to a wider audience, maybe a FedoraForum thread or something. It may bring in more ideas. Great idea :) > Also to make my meaning clear, by 'basic' I'm thinking just an abstract > (likely blue) graphic style with a plain Fedora logo and that's it. No > balloons, dna, bubbles, or anything like that. :) So it could have a > style, and that style could even complement what the theme is, but it > wouldn't have the balloons or whatever the theme element is in it. (Does > that make sense?) Say instead something like "Tentacles" or "GNOME Curves" (with a Fedora touch) from the default selection of wallpapers and I am sold. So, in a way, a background of a wallpaper without a definate subject? Yep, exactly. Just something plain and abstract with a Fedora logo. >> Question: F7 changed the icon theme to Myst partly to match the blue >> of the rest of the desktop. We will do something similar in F8 or the >> opposite (do the desktop artwork to fit the icon theme). The same >> about Metacity. > > +1 They need to match somehow. Problem is we don't know if we can depend > on Echo at this point. Call me pessimistic, but I have my doubts about Echo. I think it will take a lot of time and work to say the least. Methinks it will be done when it's done and until then we will have to keep Mist or something a little more fresh than Bluecurve. It's better to take the time and get it right than rush it. F8's schedule is abnormally tight. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F8 artwork
Nicu Buculei wrote: If we really, really get stuck and end up with more than one really awesome theme by the round 3 deadline, we can always hold a vote of Fedora contributors similar to the F7 naming vote process. I'm hoping that it won't be necessary, though. If we don't have any completely finished to the specifications above by the deadline, we can dig in and work on the one that's closest to being complete at that point. And if we have just only one theme at that point? Will we have the authority to endorse it as the way to go? For F7 nobody objected because the decision was made by a supreme, unquestionable authority (RH Desktop Team), maybe we should define clearly the process and our relation with the Desktop Team. Well, I think there are two things we can do to help avoid the issues we had last release: - We should be as open and as transparent as possible wrt our progress on the themes. We should post to Planet Fedora for example, at least every two weeks on the situation so there are no surprises for anyone involved by the time the 3rd and final theme deadline is reached. Remember also that the major bits need to be implemented by the final deadline so hopefully we will have folks from Desktop assisting with that process thus they'll be aware of the stuff we're coming up with and be able to give their input. - We could have a representative of Desktop team and a representative of the Fedora board to give a signoff on the final theme design, to make sure they agree its a proper representation of Fedora and the desktop. We should make sure each of these representatives is made aware of how we're doing along with posting our updates. Sound reasonable? Paul is already our representative to the Board I think; would you be willing to be the desktop liaison, Matthias? Do these dates make sense? If so, would anybody object to me going ahead and announcing the F8 theme process? - I'm thinking a Fedora News announcement, here on this list + marketing + websites list, fedoraforum.org, and I can make a post on Fedora Planet as well. I think the dates are just fine, go ahead with the announcements. Will do :) - Milestone 4: Mon 10 Sept - concept discussion for F8 marketing materials on the marketing list. Come up with a standard tagline for the release the way we did "Reach higher" for the new static FPO website, and maybe some promo banner ideas as well. This is fine. If I understand you correctly, the tagline is related to the graphic theme (DNA - Evolved, FlyingHigh - Reach higher) Yep exactly, so it makes sense to come up with this after the graphic theme is decided. - Milestone 5: Mon 24 Sept - finalize artwork/design for F8 DVD/CD labels and sleeves. At least a professional-printer (eg screenprinting) ready version of each needs to be made of the labels - 3 or 4 colors at most. An additional set with more colors / more complex design could also be prepared for home users with inkjet printers. Is not this a little earlier? Those last milestones my go in parallel schedule, CD covers are not blockers for screenshots in the press kit and are not blocked by the promo banners, all of them use the release theming as a root. Do you think the promo kit should come first? I was thinking that a lot of folks block on the disc designs, folks who are holding launch events and magazines and such. And the disc designs could be included in the promo kit. Anyway, we should create a page similar to the ThemingOverview for all those marketing related graphics, as a central point of reference. +1 - Milestone 7: Mon 15 October - finalize fedoraproject.org promotional materials. Probably will consist of: (1) F8 tour with screenshots, (2) big promo banner for the front page of the site at launch time. Work with the websites and infrastructure teams to get a staging site set up and ready to go for the final release date. Another "yes" from me on this. Maybe yet another milestone working with the documentation people on the Firefox start page? This is a great idea, I totally forget this. We could include this task in the milestone with the FPO materials. Also to make my meaning clear, by 'basic' I'm thinking just an abstract (likely blue) graphic style with a plain Fedora logo and that's it. No balloons, dna, bubbles, or anything like that. :) So it could have a style, and that style could even complement what the theme is, but it wouldn't have the balloons or whatever the theme element is in it. (Does that make sense?) Say instead something like "Tentacles" or "GNOME Curves" (with a Fedora touch) from the default selection of wallpapers and I am sold. +1 Something along those lines with a small Fedora logo is what I was thinking "basic" would be. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F8 artwork
Nicu Buculei wrote: OK, I quickly kicked a page in the wiki with content mostly copied/adapted from the F7 page and all dates put as TBD: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes Nicu, this is great! Thanks!!! I looked at the F8 release schedule and the calendar and came up with the following (somewhat aggressive, but if all goes well we'll have everything for the feature freeze deadline) schedule: - Round 1 deadline: Monday July 2nd - Any ideas that don't have a formal proposal on the mailing list + a proposal page linked off of the F8Themes wiki page will be out of the running at this point. - Round 2 deadline: Monday July 20th - Any ideas that don't have fully fleshed-out and polished artwork, at least 1 wallpaper and let's say 3 supporting graphics, will be out of the running at this point. - Round 3 deadline: Monday August 20th (F8 feature freeze) - Any ideas that don't have fully-polished and implemented versions of the following will be out of the running: - wallpaper - gdm theme - bootup artwork (whether it's the new system or RHGB graphics and grub screen) - installer artwork (splash, banner, and 15-color anaconda graphic) - firstboot artwork (splash, banner) If we really, really get stuck and end up with more than one really awesome theme by the round 3 deadline, we can always hold a vote of Fedora contributors similar to the F7 naming vote process. I'm hoping that it won't be necessary, though. If we don't have any completely finished to the specifications above by the deadline, we can dig in and work on the one that's closest to being complete at that point. Do these dates make sense? If so, would anybody object to me going ahead and announcing the F8 theme process? - I'm thinking a Fedora News announcement, here on this list + marketing + websites list, fedoraforum.org, and I can make a post on Fedora Planet as well. -- On a related note, I would also like to add some more milestones/deadlines to the process even though they aren't part of the theme selection process. Please tell me if you think I'm completely insane with these items & deadlines. You see, I think we've gotten nipped by some of these, some very last minute, in previous releases :) So, we should just make a standard release-preparation process to prepare these materials ahead of time so the release goes more smoothly. Each of these could be on a site like our design queues, and folks could claim ownership of each to help get them done. Anyway, here's the milestones and dates I'm thinking of: - Milestone 4: Mon 10 Sept - concept discussion for F8 marketing materials on the marketing list. Come up with a standard tagline for the release the way we did "Reach higher" for the new static FPO website, and maybe some promo banner ideas as well. - Milestone 5: Mon 24 Sept - finalize artwork/design for F8 DVD/CD labels and sleeves. At least a professional-printer (eg screenprinting) ready version of each needs to be made of the labels - 3 or 4 colors at most. An additional set with more colors / more complex design could also be prepared for home users with inkjet printers. - Milestone 6: Mon 5 October - prepare a 'promo kit' for the release. This would be aimed towards Fedora ambassadors and other folks wanting to promote Fedora 8 at conferences/shows/gatherings during launch time. Include some standard screenshots folks can use, some printer-quality artwork (sources for the theme work would be great), and a link to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] site, all gathered in one page on the wiki for easy access. I've noticed we've gotten a lot of inquiries about these materials for F8 and were not prepared. Another idea for the kit: PDF informational sheet about the release with preliminary release notes (or information about the most compelling features being introduced in the release) and a couple screenshots. - Milestone 7: Mon 15 October - finalize fedoraproject.org promotional materials. Probably will consist of: (1) F8 tour with screenshots, (2) big promo banner for the front page of the site at launch time. Work with the websites and infrastructure teams to get a staging site set up and ready to go for the final release date. Maybe we will think again and include at least the graphics for the previous release by default to leave a bit of choice for the users +1 How about two version of the artwork, a basic one and a derivative of it for the final desktop, the derivative being on equal foot with other derivative distros can do? Well, I think the most visible 'hard to swap out' pieces are grub and rhgb, which we might not even be dealing with. I personally don't think it would be an issue to have more thematic artwork for anaconda and firstboot if there were more basic versions available to respinners to use. But maybe whatever bootup graphics we have should be more basic so that folks wanting to personalize their system don't have something that totally clashes with their personal style.
Re: F8 artwork
Matthias Clasen wrote: On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 23:55 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: Oh okay. Would it not be acceptable if a nice GDM theme was proposed that didn't use the plain greeter yet had all the necessary buttons and menu items to make it accessible? I don't necessarily agree with Brian's assessment that all thats needed for an accessible greeter is enough buttons and menu items. DavidZ can provide much more detail about the disadvantages of the themed greeter from an a11y perspective. Okay. I hope I'm not misrepresenting what he said, but it really didn't seem like it would be a problem accessibility-wise to use a themed greeter at the time is all. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F8 artwork
Matthias Clasen wrote: On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 23:45 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: Matthias Clasen wrote: On the topic of the login screen, I forgot to mention that we are also considering switching to the plain greeter to improve the accessibility situation on the login screen. If we go forward with this idea, it would imply some changes to the themeability of the login screen. I talked to Brian Cameron a bit about GDM theme accessibility at the last Boston GNOME Summit, and from him I understood that only the positions of some of the buttons would have to be changed around and some buttons that are not currently displayed would have to be. But beyond that I don't see how making the GDM theme more accessible would necessarily change the themeability of the login screen? Changing to the plain greeter (you can try it out in gdmsetup) would mean theming by background image + whatever length we want to go to theme a regular gtk+ application, as opposed to the somewhat obscure and uncooperative canvas format of the themed greeter. The themed lock dialog and the F7 incarnation of rhgb are proof that this does not really restrict the extent to which the screen can be themed. Oh okay. Would it not be acceptable if a nice GDM theme was proposed that didn't use the plain greeter yet had all the necessary buttons and menu items to make it accessible? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F8 artwork
Matthias Clasen wrote: On the topic of the login screen, I forgot to mention that we are also considering switching to the plain greeter to improve the accessibility situation on the login screen. If we go forward with this idea, it would imply some changes to the themeability of the login screen. I talked to Brian Cameron a bit about GDM theme accessibility at the last Boston GNOME Summit, and from him I understood that only the positions of some of the buttons would have to be changed around and some buttons that are not currently displayed would have to be. But beyond that I don't see how making the GDM theme more accessible would necessarily change the themeability of the login screen? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Presentation and DVD pictures
Nicolas Mailhot wrote: https://duffy.108.redhat.com/source/browse/duffy/trunk/fedora/print/disc-design/f7/TIFF/ Rhaa please ask hosting space on fedoraproject.org for F8 artwork, we really really really do not want to mix 108.redhat.com & fedora stuff. +1 I agree totally. All of that was done last-minute on a holiday here in the US so I didn't have much time, that was the only space I had. I think it may be worth investigating getting a fedora art hosted project (we have bluecurve but not really appropriate for non-bluecurve fedora art) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Presentation and DVD pictures
Nicu Buculei wrote: pingou wrote: I am actually writting in a magazine for F7 and as they are going to give F7 DVD with it I am trying to find nice DVD pictures for it. Here is another CD label better optimized for print (I am not sure if this is its final version): http://people.redhat.com/duffy/fedora/f7/printwork/cd-label_fedora-7.svg There are print-ready tiff files in that repo too: https://duffy.108.redhat.com/source/browse/duffy/trunk/fedora/print/disc-design/f7/TIFF/ ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
[Fwd: Re: Banner for F7 Home Page]
Anybody interested in a project to create banners to be displayed on the FPO front page? Anybody got ideas for banners we could do? E.g., join the art team, join the infrastructure team, join the websites team - it's never too early to work on 'filler' banners like that that we could post when there are no events to advertise. What do you think? ~m Original Message Subject: Re: Banner for F7 Home Page Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 21:51:47 -0400 From: Máirín Duffy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: For maintainers and developers of all formal Fedora websites. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: For maintainers and developers of all formal Fedora websites. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Diego Búrigo Zacarão wrote: Perhaps we can have a rotating banner? New community-produced banner every week or month? The idea sounds great for me. I like when Google changes your logo in special dates. +1!!! We could have a release-specific one when a release is newly out and when we're in-between releases maybe pick interesting Fedora-related events like FUDcons and Summer of Code and such, and when its not so busy little ads to recruit folks for specific Fedora teams/SIGs. This could operate similar to how gnome.org's frontpage banner works - someone on the GNOME marketing team will have an idea to publicize a specific event using a front page banner, and then volunteers from the GNOME art community will submit designs and work with each other to produce the final artwork. I think it's a great idea. ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 7 CD Labels & Covers
Nicolas Mailhot wrote: [... snip ...] A very crude way to assess a font is to upload it on http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/font/custom.htm read the glyph count and look at the glyph matrix. A much better indicator would be the language support coverage matrix DejaVu publishes with every release but its generator needs fontconfig sources and fonts in sfd format (IIRC) so it's not useful for the average artists. We really need a tester tool that would do the same on any on-disk ttf/otf font. Sweet, this is all very useful info, thank you! Anyway, some result for F7 common FLOSS fonts: - DejaVu Sans/Serif: 4538/1939 - DejaVU LGC Sans/Serif: 3532/1881 - Linux Libertine: 2274 - Gentium: 1699 - Liberation Sans/Serif: 668/661 - Vera Sans/Serif: 268 Cool I haven't heard of a couple of those actually (Libertine and Gentium) so I will check them out. Are the Luxi and Nimbus fonts FLOSS at all? And another we should really get into Fedora, but has a build system from hell (and what's the point of FLOSS if you can't work from sources) and is in opentype OTF format all out tools can not handle yet: Computer Modern Unicode ( http://canopus.iacp.dvo.ru/%7Epanov/cm-unicode/ ) (As an aside, how is URW U001 [1] in terms of glyph coverage? Is that another option?) IIRC URW U001 is free-to-use but not especially FLOSS, limited to latin (and even basic latin), and in legacy type one format people are moving away from. […] I could have used DejaVu Sans, but to be honest I'm really sick of Deja Vu's look since it's one of the only good free & open fonts out there and I've seriously used it to death! :) You have to compromise. Entities with an international reach (like Fedora) almost never use the very distinctive fonts you way be used to as a designer, for the following reasons: - it's very hard and costly to create international fonts - it's even harder to decline an original font - any substitution for coverage reasons is going to stand out. And projecting a common worldwide style is more valuable than being cool in a few countries - very distinctive fonts are distinctive because they're different from the ones people are used to read, ie harder to read. FWIW, by stylish/distinctive I don't mean you know, something tacky like Comic Sans or Papyrus or Vivaldi, I mean more readable fonts like Gill Sans or Myriad. - Title fonts in particular are useless for plain text, which is another reason people don't bother extending their coverage - very distinctive fonts often do not age gracefully (trends change, a style may be great one year and laughable 5 years later) - periodic re-styling is no option, it's overly costly and hurts the common unified persona you want to project' It's probably OK to use Liberation for titles. The benefits of showcasing it may outweight the fact it won't be a choice for many languages. Using it for text where the glyphs are too small for most people to see the difference OTOH is stupid IMHO. I was proposing to use it for titles - eg the name of the CD/DVD. Also only using Liberation fonts (as I've seen proposed, including in the message I reacted to) is sending a message I don't agree with (as already explained) I never proposed this, sorry, and I just re-read my mail to make sure it couldn't have been misconstrued that way either. I said *all* the fonts I used in my very first draft were Liberation, yes (because of sheer laziness on my part actually.) I never proposed that we *only* use Liberation Sans, though, (and I was especially not proposing using only Liberation Sans beyond the scope of this CD/DVD label design). Seriously. How are non-technical Fedora groups making Liberation a Fedora emblem? The original RH PR release wrote about FLOSS fonts intended to replace [a lot of things] (when it will be finished), and many people have taken it as "Fedora intent is to use Liberation in all its documents *now* because it's the only realistic FLOSS font" I just re-read the Red Hat press release and I think that's a bit of a leap you've made there. If you can point to some specific quote... but I'm not seeing any in this. Maybe the word "substitution" in order to explain the differences between and provide examples each of serif, sans serif, and monotype fonts was a poor choice? But I only saw that as explaining the types of fonts they were (especially in the absence of a sorely-needed type sample on that page!) But Bitstream is a professional foundry that has closed fonts as well, no? Current default is DejaVu LGC which is not produced by Bitstream but by a FLOSS project. DejaVu is a fork of Bitstream, is it not? Or I have completely misunderstood? Also there's no possible comparison between the handling by GNOME of the Bitstream fonts and the handling by Red Hat of Liberation. Why? Or did Bitstream do the work and then license it openly? (It's a real question, I actually honestly don't know; I was pretty sure the latter was
Re: Fedora 7 CD Labels & Covers
Hi Nicolas, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le vendredi 25 mai 2007 à 13:38 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : On Fri, 2007-05-25 at 17:09 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: FYI the liberation fonts are nice and it's certainly worth showcasing them but they're not Fedora 7 default fonts, since they lack extended glyph coverage and lack hinting. Yes, so what ? So using them systematically is not reflecting the project state accurately, and it will hurt the local Fedora groups when they try to localise Fedora marketing material and discover their language is just not supported. I hope it will help to give the reasons why I chose it. I will most certainly switch it to DejaVu Sans, which will have better i18n support, right? I honestly didn't realize Liberation Sans had a coverage problem; I didn't try any non-basic English glyphs with it so that's my bad. (As an aside, how is URW U001 [1] in terms of glyph coverage? Is that another option?) Anyhow, I'm hoping this is already understood, but here was my rationale in using Liberation Sans: Currently the Fedora font that was used for titling on the FC5 and FC6 CD/DVD covers is called Bryant2. It's a non-free font, it actually costs at least a couple hundred dollars to get a license for it which highly annoys me. I only last week got a license for it. I could have used DejaVu Sans, but to be honest I'm really sick of Deja Vu's look since it's one of the only good free & open fonts out there and I've seriously used it to death! :) Liberation Sans is new, it's got a fresh look, and it's open and free. I didn't choose it bc I work for RH and I didn't mean to imply that the font had any kind of connection with Fedora, just that it was far more readily available and easy to use than Bryant2 has been in the past and it's a nice fresh look. Liberation Sans in terms of licensing is definitely better than Bryant2, but if it is limiting to folks internationally then I agree it is a poor choice and I apologize. Are you going to bring this up every time somebody mentions Liberation ? Please. I wrote nice things about the font, and only stated the plain truth. And since you insist I'll add this. Red Hat made a donation. A great one. You're entitled as a Red Hat employee to be proud of your company. But how does it reflect on Fedora? Not at all. At no stage was the Fedora community involved in Liberation. You want info on it you'd better be a journalist and call Red Hat press contacts because you sure won't get any by asking on community lists. The official Liberation page accurately reflect this fact with its Red Hat branding and lack of any fedoraproject.org link or contact. I do some stuff for the Fedora community. I'm happy to see Red Hat Fedora members cheer about some good action their company did. I'm less happy, more accurately I'm deeply uncomfortable with the way non-technical Fedora groups are incited to make Liberation a Fedora emblem. How are non-technical Fedora groups making Liberation a Fedora emblem? Is this what you thought my intent was (it totally wasn't)? :( If not where is this happening? If I see a new, nice-looking open font I get excited and start using it everywhere. The currently-mandated Fedora font is a $$$ closed one. Over time when developing Fedora materials I've used Bitstream Vera & DejaVu but I was simply excited about having some new options. You're supposed to be proud of your emblems. But how can I be proud of Liberation? It happened and still happens outside Fedora¹. It's not even the result of some other community work, but was bought from a professional closed-fonts foundry². What's the relationship of Liberation with the Fedora community work I value? None that I can easily see. But Bitstream is a professional foundry that has closed fonts as well, no? Fonts are really hard to do. It necessitates a lot of time (usually years for good coverage) and effort. I'd like to see the art team grow stronger at some more basic design tasks a bit more gradually than trying to take on creating a whole font (a task for which I'll also mention there hasn't been much interest anyone has expressed in this group.) We are *always* in need of new open fonts though. I agree that the creation of Liberation wasn't done in the Fedora community. But was the creation of Bitstream Vera, the intial set of glyphs that later became DejaVu, also something done in the Fedora community or any FOSS community? Or did Bitstream do the work and then license it openly? (It's a real question, I actually honestly don't know; I was pretty sure the latter was the case though.) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 7 CD Labels & Covers
Hi Nicolas,
Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
So? Are you suggesting it would be a good thing if CD/DVD look diverged
significantly from the Fedora desktop ones? We sync the sleeve
decorations and colours with the release default background. Why should
we not sync the sleeve fonts with the default desktop fonts? Fonts
contribute to the theming too.
Maybe I can help give a little perspective here?
That the fonts complement each other on the desktop and in marketing
materials like wallpapers/theme, and print materials like DVD sleeves
and posters, etc. is important, of course. They do not, however, have to
be the same font. It does indeed *sound* like a good idea but from my
POV as someone who has a lot of experience designing both for-print and
for-screen materials, who'd like us designing compelling print and
marketing materials, I don't think it's a reasonable thing to expect.
Maybe I am just being a silly designer here, but fonts that look good in
print can be quite different than fonts that look good on screen! Fonts
that are used for marketing materials, eg for titling ('Live CD x86')
are not necessarily the fonts you want to use for large bodies of text
meant to be read comfortably on a screen! Does that mean we should limit
ourselves to using fonts that were designed for screen on marketing
materials? I don't think we should.
Moreover the desktop and art team have mostly the same font constraints
(put FLOSS projects first, provide readable text to the same users with
the same langages & scripts, etc). So distribution font choices are
certainly relevant to the art team.
Readable on screen != readable in print. Stylish for a creative
treatment != readable on screen. Etc. etc :)
My POV, the more free & open fonts provided by default in the distro,
the merrier.
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Re: Fedora 7 CD Labels & Covers
Nicu Buculei wrote: Ops! I caught you... :p The embedded bitmap is watermarked :D Which the screenshot? Hehehe :) The fonts used (besides the logo of course) are all Liberation Sans with some Inkscape-rounded-stroke trickery. I know I am nitpicking and Bitstream Vera fonts are free, but you used Libertine on the banner and Bistream Vera on the CD (and yes, one can see thisonly looking at the source). UGH! I keep having this issue with Liberation Sans in Inkscape. I pick Liberation Sans, and it definitely LOOKS like Liberation sans, but then it somehow switches itself to Bitstream Vera or Luxi Sans when I copy it (in the font dropdown! It's the weirdest, most annoying thing!) I don't get what's going on there. I will have to pay more attention to the SVG output and edit by hand. What do y'all think, is this the right direction? Anyone want to grab the source file and have at it? Ignore my whining above, I like your design very much. Just consider the legal disclaimer will be much longer, probably 4 rows (based on the previous designs). lol, yep, I was too lazy to copy it in,w And how about using white for the "Live CD x86" text? I find that more readable on the dark background. +1. Also, the larger balloon on the left looks like someone got hungry and took a bite out of its left side, so that needs some touching up, and I think the clouds could be tweaked to look a little nicer. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 7 CD Labels & Covers
Máirín Duffy wrote: I'm going to try to come up with a basic SVG template and send it out tonight, but if you have any ideas / concepts / artwork / mockups please send them! Okay, so here's my first cut at an attempt, using a CD/DVD template from [1]: http://people.redhat.com/duffy/fedora/f7/printwork/fc7-cddesign_preview.png Source is here, which includes the aforementioned balloons + clouds artwork: http://people.redhat.com/duffy/fedora/f7/printwork/cd-label_fedora-7.svg The fonts used (besides the logo of course) are all Liberation Sans with some Inkscape-rounded-stroke trickery. What do y'all think, is this the right direction? Anyone want to grab the source file and have at it? ~m [1] http://kev.coolcavemen.com/2006/09/cd-templates-for-jewel-case-in-svg/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: How is the Echo Icon development going on?
Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Yeh, it seems like this is a big problem for the smaller-sized Echo icons. I recommend everyone working on Echo read this: http://www.firewheeldesign.com/sparkplug/2006/April/icon_design_bitmap_vs_vector.php http://mezzoblue.com/archives/2007/02/21/icon_design/ t Would you mind to post these links on the wiki, please? I'm not really sure the best place to put them, I am not involved in Echo development, so if you like them maybe put them where you think they might belong. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: How is the Echo Icon development going on?
Ben Arnold wrote: One thing you could do if you're not that great is scale down anny icons that are (at the moment) the largest size. The 16 and 24 sizes are very important and there's already an icon there to use! I've found it doesn't take that long to do, either, just remember to make it clear and recognisable at the smaller sizes. Yeh, it seems like this is a big problem for the smaller-sized Echo icons. I recommend everyone working on Echo read this: http://www.firewheeldesign.com/sparkplug/2006/April/icon_design_bitmap_vs_vector.php While the article shows the problems of scaling up from a small vector icon, the issue a lot of the Echo icons haxve is that they are scaled down from a large vector icon, without alignment to the pixel grid so the details come out muddy. This talks a little bit about the pixel grid if you are curious: http://mezzoblue.com/archives/2007/02/21/icon_design/ I also recommend if you want fuller coverage for Fedora 7, work on the smaller icons first, then the large sizes. The larger size icons are far less likely to ever appear anywhere in the desktop, but the smaller sizes are much more likely to appear thus if they are not finished they will make the set look more incomplete. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Wiki Theme
Hey everybody, I've been interested in playing around with moin for a good while and I finally got around to getting my own server up again so I had the space and ability to set up my own install to poke around in. So I came up with a Fedora theme for it (I started with cornicen from the moin ThemeMarket [1] as a base): http://wiki.linuxgrrl.com/ The mockups I started out with and the theme files are here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/LookAndFeel/WikiNotes Also note that a lot of mockups have been put together for the wiki over time; ideas from all of them are in what I came up with: From Matt Munoz: - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiElements?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=fpo-design-front.png - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiElements?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=fpo-design-interior.png From Jeremy: - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-websites-list/2006-December/jpgpTWnCKjSjA.jpg I really like the basic layout of Jeremy's mockup, and I think something like the large, dark center banner is something we could use on a non-wiki front page. It reminds me a lot of the www.gnome.org banner space, which has been helpful for advertising events and releases for GNOME. Although I am not 100% happy with the look (needs more cowbell/bling!), I do think the theme addresses some of my long time usability nags with our current theme (the placement of the account preferences always bugged me, for example). I was also looking to come up with a style that would fit in nicely on another CMS, so maybe we could use the wiki for being a wiki and have a CMS that is managed more carefully for non-contributors looking to learn more about Fedora - see the navbar in the mocks? (not in the theme yet) I figured I would send this out so more people knew about it (folks have been helping me out with it this weekend in #fedora-admin). If anybody has ideas on how to improve it (especially bling-wise :) ) let's discuss it! ~m [1] http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ThemeMarket#head-755c39b282cccb4c5bf9fad229c68825cc5ef3df ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Mascot
Nicu Buculei wrote: There is a very active thread going on the Marketing list [1] about the need of a Fedora mascot and an important number of Ambassadors and community people are in agreement about this need (see the link for comments, ideas, proposals). I think we, the Art Team, can come *as a community* with a nice, friendly and cute mascot which users will love. The marketing-list thread seems very focused on animals; a mascot could be a character too, though, right? Actually, so this is totally inbred I think, but - for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5, Red Hat has put out a series of little videos that simplify and explain the technology coming out with RHEL 5: http://www.redhat.com/videos/real_tech/ They've got these cute little tofu-like characters in them that represent systems. Very simple, but cute, and I think they bring a friendly face to the product. I think that is kind of what we are looking for, right? From the thread on marketing-list and some comments I saw in our IRC channel, I think some of the main points being brought up as issues to solve are: 1) the Fedora logo is somewhat impersonal 2) it's not 'ours' - eg the community didn't create it and doesn't own it so we're restricted in using it 3) it's not very good fodder for plush animals :) 4) it seems many suspect it doesn't reach out to as broad an audience as a well-done mascot might. I think probably the main goal for a mascot for Fedora, then, to be derived from the list of issues above: a community-created and maintained mascot for the Fedora project that brings a friendly personality to the project and reaches out to our target audience. Of course, a very difficult question I think is: who is our target audience? One idea for moving forward would be for us to think of what characters/mascots/ even TV commercials we associate with different products and try to figure out what we like/don't like about each. We could go through youtube.com, for example, and look for popular/funny commercials that worked, that people liked and uploaded. As for some preliminary rules, I think we need something: - Free, so it can be used without any restriction (not even trademarks); +1 I wouldn't say public domain though? Maybe just a plain CC attribution (attribute the Fedora Project) - derivs are OK. - lovable, this is the purpose of a mascot; +1 - produced by the community, it should not be someone's baby but our community's baby. +1 ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 12, Issue 23
John Baer wrote: Mo wrote: Maybe try changing the colors so people don't think Ubuntu when they see it? lol, never connected those dots ... A part of me wanted to place some Fedora branding in the image. The title could change to "fedoraPhone". I wasn't talking about the phone, I was talking about the tree. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Request: User Image Submissions - Deadline March 15, 2007
John Baer wrote: Diana, I added one more item to the list titled "Gnome Phone". I really like the idea but it seems to struggle at the 96x96 size. :( http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JohnBaer I'll wait to upload this one to gnome-look pending your advice on improving the smaller image. John, isn't the one with the tree from an Ubuntu theme? Maybe try changing the colors so people don't think Ubuntu when they see it? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Including artwork from older releases
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Luya, Paul or anyone else interested in packaging the older artwork from FC5 and FC6 for F7? I kinda think it'd be a lot nicer to package some of the themes we've put together that never made it, but maybe that's just me. John's new theme on his wiki page looks cool! ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Update: Echo's software update icons
Paul W. Frields wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 18:54 -0800, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Following the suggesting, here is the modified icon notification. Dramatic improvement! Kudos. +1! It looks like you were able to align the emblems to the pixel grid and the results are fantastic. Great work! ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo's software update icons
Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Here the 24x24 version for Notification area. Those status emblems are really difficult to discern because they are angled. If I hadn't seen the arrow and ! icons in the larger versions I'm not sure I would have been able to make them out at all. I would suggest a head-on perspective for the emblems. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
