Re: New Concept for F11 King
Samuele Storari wrote: In the afternoon I will post something for the Plymouth screen. Do you have something? I will be going to a conference from the 11th and I don't know what the internet connection will be like there so would be good if you could get me some mockups soon. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
I don't know much about art, just an audience. But what I think, if its possible to make it look like the lion is coming out of the monitor it would have been great. Although, I have to say, the King artwork is simplystunning. -- Angel http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Angel 0DF8 3CD4 AFE3 68C6 2CDA 9F17 14B8 1A15 E5F7 73C2 Fedora -- Freedom² and rapid innovation ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
My favorite is four too. It's cool and simple. 2009/4/1 Máirín Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com - Original Message From: Charlie Brej fedora-...@brej.org http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion.jpghttp://www.cs.man.ac.uk/%7Ebrejc8/temp/lion.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion2.jpghttp://www.cs.man.ac.uk/%7Ebrejc8/temp/lion2.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion3.jpghttp://www.cs.man.ac.uk/%7Ebrejc8/temp/lion3.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion4.jpghttp://www.cs.man.ac.uk/%7Ebrejc8/temp/lion4.jpg 4 without a doubt although it still needs more work. The others are too noisy for a boot screen. I agree with Martin that there should only be one progress bar, along the bottom. I think maybe using the fedora logo centered without the infinity bubble, only the logotype, might work better with the mood too. (background is heavily/grungy textured while the infinty bubble is very shiny/baubly and they kind of clash) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
On Wednesday 01 April 2009 00:01:40 Charlie Brej wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Also, some of our splash ideas (http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4. png for example, with the Greek pattern) could be adapted to use the lion instead, so we would still be able to take advantage of that work. I made a couple plymouth options that combine the greek pattern with the theme. There are 4 levels of complexity. Which one do people think is best? http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion2.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion3.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion4.jpg Personally I vote for 4th Lion. I like 3rd too but black spots look weird. Maybe without lines layer a black spot it will be better, now it's too complicated for splash/KDM background. I can image transition from this background to desktop wallpaper with lion. But there's still one issue - once I use this as KDM/KSplash, we need more backgrounds distributed (maybe one resolution is enough for such simple background even I don't have to deal with wide/normal version)... Could you publish it somewhere? And as Martin pointed out - only one progress bar and match it's color with background. Thanks all involved for this wonderful work! Jaroslav ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Jaroslav Řezník jrez...@redhat.com Associate Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 731 455 332 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
Máirín Duffy wrote: From: Charlie Brej http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion2.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion3.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion4.jpg 4 without a doubt although it still needs more work. The others are too noisy for a boot screen. I'm also going for 4, it would be easier to make a GRUB splash matching. And when the boot process end and GDM kick is, the lion will just pop-up over the already existing background, for a good effect, methinks. I agree with Martin that there should only be one progress bar, along the bottom. I think maybe using the fedora logo centered without the infinity bubble, only the logotype, might work better with the mood too. (background is heavily/grungy textured while the infinty bubble is very shiny/baubly and they kind of clash) Yup, one progress bar and maybe larger. I think it would be tiresome (and redundant) to watch two bars progressing at the same time. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
Hi Samuele, - Original Message From: Samuele Storari sstor...@byte-code.com To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 6:23:47 AM Subject: Re: New Concept for F11 King Hi all https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:King_1920x1200.jpg This is the corrected version, I've left on this only one group of birds 'cause I think they give some light and a good design element to the image. I don't change the source on the wiki 'cause I've only turned off the layers visibility of the other elements. This is cool. How was it changed though? What was corrected? Then: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Anaconda_promp_screen_mockup.jpg This is my proposal for the Splash of this release, onestly I don't think mixing Lion with the greek style is so in line, 'cause they are 2 different themes, but this only my idea, so let the team decide what is best. These look very nice, but I think they are too thematic. Like, maybe if just the banner on the top had the lion or just the banner in the middle. But both having it seems a little overkill to me. I think we should go with a more abstract style for the banners. I think the Greek style actually works well and I'd rather see something a little more low-key / abstract like that on the splash banners. I think of any of the graphics, the wallpaper can be the most thematic, but the other artwork should really fade more into the background. In the afternoon I will post something for the Plymouth screen. Cool can you work with Charlie's mockups so we're not duplicating efforts? About the dual display I will make some test and then upload it, let me try something. Cool ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
Yes, maybe your right. I think we can use the center splash like what I've done for the installation and one more abstract for the header to not overcharge the graphic. So for the plymouth I vote for the version number 3. :D Samuele - Original Message - From: Máirín Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, 1 April, 2009 3:40:31 PM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna Subject: Re: New Concept for F11 King Hi Samuele, - Original Message From: Samuele Storari sstor...@byte-code.com To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 6:23:47 AM Subject: Re: New Concept for F11 King Hi all https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:King_1920x1200.jpg This is the corrected version, I've left on this only one group of birds 'cause I think they give some light and a good design element to the image. I don't change the source on the wiki 'cause I've only turned off the layers visibility of the other elements. This is cool. How was it changed though? What was corrected? Then: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Anaconda_promp_screen_mockup.jpg This is my proposal for the Splash of this release, onestly I don't think mixing Lion with the greek style is so in line, 'cause they are 2 different themes, but this only my idea, so let the team decide what is best. These look very nice, but I think they are too thematic. Like, maybe if just the banner on the top had the lion or just the banner in the middle. But both having it seems a little overkill to me. I think we should go with a more abstract style for the banners. I think the Greek style actually works well and I'd rather see something a little more low-key / abstract like that on the splash banners. I think of any of the graphics, the wallpaper can be the most thematic, but the other artwork should really fade more into the background. In the afternoon I will post something for the Plymouth screen. Cool can you work with Charlie's mockups so we're not duplicating efforts? About the dual display I will make some test and then upload it, let me try something. Cool ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
Samuele Storari wrote: Yes, maybe your right. I think we can use the center splash like what I've done for the installation and one more abstract for the header to not overcharge the graphic. So for the plymouth I vote for the version number 3. :D Could you use the linked image [1] as the rust layer? This would make it easy to make the desktop repeat as the left and right edges are matched. [1] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/rust3.png ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
Max Spevack wrote: All we need is the lion saying i can has fedora and we'll have crossed all the streams, and the Internets will cease to exist. Max, don't steal my joke for the upcoming comic (with an i can has beta line inside) :D -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 20:05 +0200, Luca Foppiano wrote: I asked to le...@fedoraproject.org and spot replies this licence is not ok: Unfortunately, it is a problem. Even under the less restrictive licensing requirements for content, this license is not good. In Fedora, we require that all content be Freely Redistributable without restriction. The restrictions on selling or copying the entire webpage mean that the brushes (or derived artwork containing the brushes) are not acceptable in Fedora. You might ask the author of those brushes if he would be willing to let you use them under different licensing terms, perhaps under the Creative Commons Attribution license (CC-BY): http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ I notified Samuele to ask to change this licence or change brushes. I'm trying to understand better his points because I think are a bit restrictive. I'll let you know. Luca -- Today is Setting Orange, the 17th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 A career is great, but you can't run your fingers through its hair. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
Hi Samuele, - Original Message From: Samuele Storari sstor...@byte-code.com I can produce all the materials to fit the Leonidas Lion Theme in the scheduling for the final release, so we can bring all inside, at least as an alternative theme, I don't propose nothing for the landscape 'cause after a lot of test I really don't like my works 'cause it was so difficult for me working on that subject. Maybe this week I will provide you all we need for the graphic's pack, if someone want to collaborate with me please contact me. I would love to collaborate with you on this! Are there any brushes or images pending that are not licensed yet? I would be happy to try to find openly licensed ones or make replacements. I also think we can use the Greek pattern splash designs we came up with the lion, see [1,2]. What do you think about this idea? The sources for it should be in that directory. Is there anything else I can help with? ~m [1] http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-2.png [2] http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/splashmockup2.png ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
Hi folks! Samuelle... maybe if you put that greek pattern desing proposed by Mairin at the top and bottom with a size compatible with the image and making the changes proposed by Martin Sourada (the circles, birds and etc.) this desing would be perfect. I believe that it will be even more stylish Greek. Congratulations on good work Samuele. Jayme Ayres 2009/3/31 Máirín Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com Hi Samuele, - Original Message From: Samuele Storari sstor...@byte-code.com I can produce all the materials to fit the Leonidas Lion Theme in the scheduling for the final release, so we can bring all inside, at least as an alternative theme, I don't propose nothing for the landscape 'cause after a lot of test I really don't like my works 'cause it was so difficult for me working on that subject. Maybe this week I will provide you all we need for the graphic's pack, if someone want to collaborate with me please contact me. I would love to collaborate with you on this! Are there any brushes or images pending that are not licensed yet? I would be happy to try to find openly licensed ones or make replacements. I also think we can use the Greek pattern splash designs we came up with the lion, see [1,2]. What do you think about this idea? The sources for it should be in that directory. Is there anything else I can help with? ~m [1] http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-2.png [2] http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/splashmockup2.png ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Jayme Ayres www.jaymeayres.com www.projetofedora.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JaymeAyres ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 10:13 +0200, Luca Foppiano wrote: I'm trying to understand better his points because I think are a bit restrictive. I'll let you know. Second reply from tom spot :) [...] uhm, I would like to better understand your points, are you sure this policy is not a bit restrictive? I think the selling point on the licence is related to brushes, not to derived artworks. If you sell fedora, you don't sell the brushes, but a work made with it. The brushes are used in indirectly way. I think copying the full web page is intended to avoid stealing idea and web page, for example if I copy his webpage and I show as mine. What do you think? I think I didn't look closely enough. :) The link you sent me is to the Brush author's interpretations of how he/she thinks the license that they have chosen works. I mistook this for the actual license. The actual license that they are using for the brushes is Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 (which ironically, is what I suggested that you ask if we could use). This license is fine for Fedora. We do need to be sure that we give the original author of the brushes attribution credit. A text file which accompanies the art that gives credit to the brush author and a link to the brush website should be sufficient. Btw, the author really doesn't understand how the CC-BY license actually works. However, please don't correct their misunderstandings, because I suspect they would choose a different license that we would have problems using. :) [...] Luca -- Today is Setting Orange, the 17th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 The faster I go, the behinder I get. -- Lewis Carroll ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
Máirín Duffy wrote: Hi Samuele, - Original Message From: Samuele Storari sstor...@byte-code.com I can produce all the materials to fit the Leonidas Lion Theme in the scheduling for the final release, so we can bring all inside, at least as an alternative theme, I don't propose nothing for the landscape 'cause after a lot of test I really don't like my works 'cause it was so difficult for me working on that subject. Maybe this week I will provide you all we need for the graphic's pack, if someone want to collaborate with me please contact me. I would love to collaborate with you on this! Are there any brushes or images pending that are not licensed yet? I would be happy to try to find openly licensed ones or make replacements. I also think we can use the Greek pattern splash designs we came up with the lion, see [1,2]. What do you think about this idea? The sources for it should be in that directory. Is there anything else I can help with? ~m I think the one major thing we need to do is to make it two desktop compatible. The problem is if we clip the top and bottom to make the dual wide version it chops the top and bottom of the lion. Also the lion's face occupies the entire left screen. I extended the image by resizing and reflecting the a couple layers [1] so it is 5120x1536. This should a reasonable point that we can generate all desired resolutions from. I'm just making a script which will automatically generate them all from the one image. For now I hid the circles as they want to be on the left edge and that varies by size. I can put them back using the script or we can remove them as people complain they get in the way of the icons. Still need to extend the lines in layers Like1 and Line2. and possibly add some more texture to the left screen. I'll have a look at using the image and adding the Greek style progress bar in plymouth. [1] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/King_5120x1536_def.xcf.bz2 preview: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/King_5120x1536_def.jpg ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Máirín Duffy a écrit : | | I have to agree with this. | | Would anyone be especially opposed to going with Samuele's Lion idea, seeing that both Samuele and Charlie have committed to helping out with it? | | Also, some of our splash ideas (http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4.png for example, with the Greek pattern) could be adapted to use the lion instead, so we would still be able to take advantage of that work. | | What do folks think? | | ~m Sorry for being late. I also like the lion theme combined with Greek pattern. I am wonder about media (CD/DVD) because detai;s might be costly to be printed. - -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic Web Designer E: l...@fedoraproject.org W: http://thefinalzone.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknSXPgACgkQa10Jb0NOz+GGPgCfdW4oGq67ac9yCu0qADD5TAB6 xRwAnRoWRWXSaepFyQNuHkh++TL7TOTJ =Mewp -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
- Original Message From: Luya Tshimbalanga l...@fedoraproject.org To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:12:10 PM Subject: Re: New Concept for F11 King -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Máirín Duffy a écrit : | | I have to agree with this. | | Would anyone be especially opposed to going with Samuele's Lion idea, seeing that both Samuele and Charlie have committed to helping out with it? | | Also, some of our splash ideas (http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4.png for example, with the Greek pattern) could be adapted to use the lion instead, so we would still be able to take advantage of that work. | | What do folks think? | | ~m Sorry for being late. I also like the lion theme combined with Greek pattern. I am wonder about media (CD/DVD) because detai;s might be costly to be printed. I'm not too concerned about it. It would be easy enough to do a two-color version of the lion or even forgo the lion for the media and just use the Greek key pattern on the media artwork. `M ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Máirín Duffy a écrit : | - Original Message | | From: Luya Tshimbalanga l...@fedoraproject.org | To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com | Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:12:10 PM | Subject: Re: New Concept for F11 King | | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | Máirín Duffy a écrit : | | | | I have to agree with this. | | | | Would anyone be especially opposed to going with Samuele's Lion idea, seeing | that both Samuele and Charlie have committed to helping out with it? | | | | Also, some of our splash ideas | (http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4.png for | example, with the Greek pattern) could be adapted to use the lion instead, so we | would still be able to take advantage of that work. | | | | What do folks think? | | | | ~m | Sorry for being late. I also like the lion theme combined with Greek pattern. I | am wonder about media (CD/DVD) because detai;s | might be costly to be printed. | | I'm not too concerned about it. It would be easy enough to do a two-color version of the lion or even forgo the lion for the media and just use the Greek key pattern on the media artwork. | | `M | It comes to my mind to create a limited package version which special treatment (for example, bundled poster, detailed CD/DVD and embossed box) to display our artwork skill. It does not have to be produced that much (let say five). Perhaps we should make some kind of contest. What do you think? - -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic Web Designer P: (604) 682-6618 E: l...@fedoraproject.org W: http://thefinalzone.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknSYUgACgkQa10Jb0NOz+HanQCgkVJwOfjOrkG/4CKUcnoDu6Zu PFwAn31qEuKtM8wVjKQVOnKvviCjBic0 =v1YJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
- Original Message From: Luya Tshimbalanga l...@fedoraproject.org | Máirín Duffy a écrit : | I'm not too concerned about it. It would be easy enough to do a two-color version of the lion or even forgo the lion for the media and just use the Greek key pattern on the media artwork. | | `M | It comes to my mind to create a limited package version which special treatment (for example, bundled poster, detailed CD/DVD and embossed box) to display our artwork skill. It does not have to be produced that much (let say five). Perhaps we should make some kind of contest. What do you think? Printing anything in small batches tends to be prohibitively expensive, unfortunately. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
Máirín Duffy wrote: Also, some of our splash ideas (http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4.png for example, with the Greek pattern) could be adapted to use the lion instead, so we would still be able to take advantage of that work. I made a couple plymouth options that combine the greek pattern with the theme. There are 4 levels of complexity. Which one do people think is best? http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion2.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion3.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion4.jpg ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
I like very much lion and lion3...great work! 2009/4/1 Charlie Brej fedora-...@brej.org Máirín Duffy wrote: Also, some of our splash ideas ( http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4.pngfor example, with the Greek pattern) could be adapted to use the lion instead, so we would still be able to take advantage of that work. I made a couple plymouth options that combine the greek pattern with the theme. There are 4 levels of complexity. Which one do people think is best? http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion.jpghttp://www.cs.man.ac.uk/%7Ebrejc8/temp/lion.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion2.jpghttp://www.cs.man.ac.uk/%7Ebrejc8/temp/lion2.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion3.jpghttp://www.cs.man.ac.uk/%7Ebrejc8/temp/lion3.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion4.jpghttp://www.cs.man.ac.uk/%7Ebrejc8/temp/lion4.jpg ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
Paolo Leoni wrote: I like very much lion and lion3...great work! Credit where it is due, its all Samuele's work. All I did was to remove some of the layers. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Charlie Brej wrote: theme. There are 4 levels of complexity. Which one do people think is best? http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion2.jpg this one is my favorite. All nice, nice work. Color me impressed. --Max 3 fedora-art-team ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 23:01 +0100, Charlie Brej wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Also, some of our splash ideas (http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4.png for example, with the Greek pattern) could be adapted to use the lion instead, so we would still be able to take advantage of that work. I made a couple plymouth options that combine the greek pattern with the theme. There are 4 levels of complexity. Which one do people think is best? http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion2.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion3.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion4.jpg I think the lion and lion2 are too much complex. For me the lion4 is best, but I think you should change the progress-bars colours to better fit with the colour palette of the image. Also, maybe, only the bottom progress-bar would suffice (not sure though). I also think that the fedora logo should not be precisely in the center of the screen, maybe using gold-ratio to position it in horizontal direction would work. Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 23:01 +0100, Charlie Brej wrote: I made a couple plymouth options that combine the greek pattern with the theme. There are 4 levels of complexity. Which one do people think is best? http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion2.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion3.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion4.jpg if the bars with the greek pattern stay were they are I prefer lion3, but I believe something like that [1] with one bar under fedora (and both centered nicely) with the background of lion4 could work too (with the edges blurred a bit to fit better to the background) [1] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/plymouth_leo2.swf ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Konstantinos Antonakoglou PGP key: 0xC9E2E16B anton.c...@gmail.com constanton @ Freenode signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
2009/4/1 Charlie Brej fedora-...@brej.org Credit where it is due, its all Samuele's work. All I did was to remove some of the layers. My appreciation is generally intended...obviously I also wanted to say that Samuele's work is great :-) -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
Charlie Brej wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Also, some of our splash ideas (http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4.png for example, with the Greek pattern) could be adapted to use the lion instead, so we would still be able to take advantage of that work. I made a couple plymouth options that combine the greek pattern with the theme. There are 4 levels of complexity. Which one do people think is best? http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion2.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion3.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion4.jpg ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list 2 and 3 are rather beautiful... -- Justin Fuhrer ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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- Original Message From: Charlie Brej fedora-...@brej.org http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion2.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion3.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion4.jpg 4 without a doubt although it still needs more work. The others are too noisy for a boot screen. I agree with Martin that there should only be one progress bar, along the bottom. I think maybe using the fedora logo centered without the infinity bubble, only the logotype, might work better with the mood too. (background is heavily/grungy textured while the infinty bubble is very shiny/baubly and they kind of clash) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
Hi all... I can produce all the materials to fit the Leonidas Lion Theme in the scheduling for the final release, so we can bring all inside, at least as an alternative theme, I don't propose nothing for the landscape 'cause after a lot of test I really don't like my works 'cause it was so difficult for me working on that subject. Maybe this week I will provide you all we need for the graphic's pack, if someone want to collaborate with me please contact me. I hope you will take my proposal in consideration. Thanks Samuele - Original Message - From: Máirín Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sent: Friday, 27 March, 2009 3:32:34 PM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna Subject: Re: New Concept for F11 King Hi Samuele, - Original Message From: Samuele Storari sstor...@byte-code.com To: fedora-art-list fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:32:33 AM Subject: New Concept for F11 King Hi guys, I want to submit a new concept and a new layout for this F11 release, seeing you a little stuck on the current landscape theme,and I hear a lot of rumors about Windows-like layout. So I created a new theme based on the meaning of the name: Leonidas come from Lions and Leonidas was a king,so why don't use another king? This looks really great. There are a couple problems though: - We are *really* late in the schedule right now, and we had already made a decision, based on our survey, to go with a landscape depicting Greece so we have a number of mockups and work around that concept already. While I don't think it's completely out of the question to change course at this point, we will definitely need a commitment of help from you in getting some mockups for the other elements, e.g. some of the splash screens, etc. Can you give us that commitment and help us meet our deadlines in spite of a change in direction? - None of the source images that you used are referenced. Can you please provide references for your source images before uploading artwork to the wiki? Thanks, ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
Samuele Storari wrote: Hi guys, I want to submit a new concept and a new layout for this F11 release, seeing you a little stuck on the current landscape theme,and I hear a lot of rumors about Windows-like layout. I like this, and the people in the office love it. I don't think I would change it at all. The area on the left is nice and blue which leaves the desktop icons easily visible. The theme is perfect. Going through the image bit by bit the only thing I didn't like was the back_work layer which has square edges that look a bit out of place. Because the focus of the image is pretty centred (unlike solar, for example, which was to the right), we can use Zoom to clip the left and right edges and thus distribute a smaller set of images (1920x1200 with left and right clipped by Zoom on gnome desktop background options looks fine on a 1600x1200 screen). I assume this is the case for KDE as well (Jaroslav?). I'd be happy to lend a hand to anything that needs doing (that I know how to). ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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To be honest, I prefer the theme with the lion to the one with the green field. The reason I proposed a concept of the theme with a river was because I didn't want it to resemble with the winxp theme... Generally, I 'd suggest a bit more discreet design (or placing etc) of the lion because I think there is a contrast between the right and the left side of picture which I believe could be smoothed a bit (something that was achieved at the solar theme!). The right side is overcrowded with lines and colors (because of the lion) and I think they need attention. The left side is beautiful! Well done Samuele! -- Konstantinos Antonakoglou PGP key: 0xC9E2E16B anton.c...@gmail.com constanton @ Freenode signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
On Monday 30 March 2009 14:46:36 Charlie Brej wrote: Samuele Storari wrote: Hi guys, I want to submit a new concept and a new layout for this F11 release, seeing you a little stuck on the current landscape theme,and I hear a lot of rumors about Windows-like layout. I like this, and the people in the office love it. I don't think I would change it at all. The area on the left is nice and blue which leaves the desktop icons easily visible. The theme is perfect. Going through the image bit by bit the only thing I didn't like was the back_work layer which has square edges that look a bit out of place. Because the focus of the image is pretty centred (unlike solar, for example, which was to the right), we can use Zoom to clip the left and right edges and thus distribute a smaller set of images (1920x1200 with left and right clipped by Zoom on gnome desktop background options looks fine on a 1600x1200 screen). I assume this is the case for KDE as well (Jaroslav?). ScaleCrop should work but if we want this theme then it has to be background for KDM and KSplash and there's no scaling/cropping support. We should decide very soon which theme become default one. Current Leonidas landscape still needs a lot of work - it looks very nice on small screens (EEE) but on my workstation it lacks details and looks blurry. This Lion one is maybe too complicated but with some tweaking it could be really wonderful theme. Jaroslav I'd be happy to lend a hand to anything that needs doing (that I know how to). ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Jaroslav Řezník jrez...@redhat.com Associate Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 731 455 332 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
Hi, - Original Message From: Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com We should decide very soon which theme become default one. Current Leonidas landscape still needs a lot of work - it looks very nice on small screens (EEE) but on my workstation it lacks details and looks blurry. This Lion one is maybe too complicated but with some tweaking it could be really wonderful theme. I have to agree with this. Would anyone be especially opposed to going with Samuele's Lion idea, seeing that both Samuele and Charlie have committed to helping out with it? Also, some of our splash ideas (http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4.png for example, with the Greek pattern) could be adapted to use the lion instead, so we would still be able to take advantage of that work. What do folks think? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 09:43 -0700, Máirín Duffy wrote: What do folks think? I love the lion. Its a great background already. With some polishing, it can be perfect. Go for it, as far as I'm concerned. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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� wrote: Hi, - Original Message From: Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com We should decide very soon which theme become default one. Current Leonidas landscape still needs a lot of work - it looks very nice on small screens (EEE) but on my workstation it lacks details and looks blurry. This Lion one is maybe too complicated but with some tweaking it could be really wonderful theme. I have to agree with this. Would anyone be especially opposed to going with Samuele's Lion idea, seeing that both Samuele and Charlie have committed to helping out with it? Also, some of our splash ideas (http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4.png for example, with the Greek pattern) could be adapted to use the lion instead, so we would still be able to take advantage of that work. What do folks think? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list I realize that I haven't committed much help this round and whatnot, so I really have no issue for which way we go. If we have people committed and willing to step up and make Samuele's stuff work and we can meet all the original deadlines, then I'm going to say go for it. I don't mean any disrespect towards Samuele, but I hope that with future releases, we can start getting his input earlier on in the process as he tends to come up with some very good stuff and if we could get that in the concept stages, I see nothing but very solid releases in the future with time for extra polish. -- ~Michael http://michaelbox.net ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 15:52 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: The licensing statements for the freebies on the site are kept here: http://blogspoon.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/freebies/terms-of-use.html [...] The part that bothers me about these licensing texts is the statement of terms for sharing: it is unclear about whether you *must* link to his resource web page. It would be much better for the author to use a standard license such as CC-BY-SA or some other more appropriate license, not something he's written himself. I asked to le...@fedoraproject.org and spot replies this licence is not ok: Unfortunately, it is a problem. Even under the less restrictive licensing requirements for content, this license is not good. In Fedora, we require that all content be Freely Redistributable without restriction. The restrictions on selling or copying the entire webpage mean that the brushes (or derived artwork containing the brushes) are not acceptable in Fedora. You might ask the author of those brushes if he would be willing to let you use them under different licensing terms, perhaps under the Creative Commons Attribution license (CC-BY): http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ I notified Samuele to ask to change this licence or change brushes. Cheers Luca -- Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 16th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 design, v.: What you regret not doing later on. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Máirín Duffy wrote: Would anyone be especially opposed to going with Samuele's Lion idea, seeing that both Samuele and Charlie have committed to helping out with it? Also, some of our splash ideas (http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4.png for example, with the Greek pattern) could be adapted to use the lion instead, so we would still be able to take advantage of that work. What do folks think? As someone who is only an observer and lurker, and thus realizes that his opinion is of basically zero value, I offer a meek +1 and go back to lurking. :) All we need is the lion saying i can has fedora and we'll have crossed all the streams, and the Internets will cease to exist. --Max___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
New Concept for F11 King
Hi guys, I want to submit a new concept and a new layout for this F11 release, seeing you a little stuck on the current landscape theme,and I hear a lot of rumors about Windows-like layout. So I created a new theme based on the meaning of the name: Leonidas come from Lions and Leonidas was a king,so why don't use another king? This graphic proposal is about the proud and the glory for being a king and the subject is shouting:The King is here!. I know that there's a lot of work to do, (banner much more), but I wanted to share this concept, and get some feedbacks,before moving on. If you are interested we can make togeather all the things needed for this release. I really hope you enjoy this, and let me know your opinions. You can see the image here (Gimp source in the same page): https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:King_1920x1200.jpg Thanks for the attention. Samuele Reference info: Rust texture comes from: http://www.lostandtaken.com/search/label/rust you can download it and use it for free. The Spray paint brushes I used comes from here: http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-one http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-two The Lion's photo it's a CC resources that I've found on flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tambako/494118044/ Thanks to author for gaving me the possibility to use the image. You can find he's profile here: http://www.flickr.com/people/tambako/ -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Simply WOW! I also like the idea of a lion or something that has more to do with the word Leonidas than with ancient greek culture. Nice work! I'd only change the colors of the lion towards...more blue for fedora? i don't really know, but at this point it looks a little bit too dirty i think. Not like a desktop background that is more static and calm... And also the birds shouldn't be there for my taste - or at least have another color. What about making the Lions hair less detailed, change his color a little bit, erase those birds...and for the background maybe we'll find some more greek things? On the other hand those lines make it more like Leonidas in the 21st ceentury - adding a more modern touch to it (don't forgert: these are nerdy times with a lot of technology.) -- Justus krz...@web.de ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 12:32 +0100, Samuele Storari wrote: Hi guys, I want to submit a new concept and a new layout for this F11 release, seeing you a little stuck on the current landscape theme,and I hear a lot of rumors about Windows-like layout. So I created a new theme based on the meaning of the name: Leonidas come from Lions and Leonidas was a king,so why don't use another king? This graphic proposal is about the proud and the glory for being a king and the subject is shouting:The King is here!. I know that there's a lot of work to do, (banner much more), but I wanted to share this concept, and get some feedbacks,before moving on. If you are interested we can make togeather all the things needed for this release. I really hope you enjoy this, and let me know your opinions. Really a good work!! :) The concept is completely different but this new subject is really effective and awesome! :) Luca -- Today is Sweetmorn, the 13th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 He that would govern others, first should be the master of himself. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
Le vendredi 27 mars 2009 à 15:10 +0100, Luca Foppiano a écrit : On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 12:32 +0100, Samuele Storari wrote: ... So I created a new theme based on the meaning of the name: Leonidas come from Lions and Leonidas was a king,so why don't use another king? This graphic proposal is about the proud and the glory for being a king and the subject is shouting:The King is here!. ... Really a good work!! :) The concept is completely different but this new subject is really effective and awesome! :) I like it very much... :D ++ -- Carlos Vassalo (opossum1er) French fedora ambassador opossum...@fedoraproject.org GPG fingerprint : 1E38 D153 476F C831 0CF6 0A6A 2E7A 992F 8958 8851 signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
Hi Samuele, - Original Message From: Samuele Storari sstor...@byte-code.com To: fedora-art-list fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:32:33 AM Subject: New Concept for F11 King Hi guys, I want to submit a new concept and a new layout for this F11 release, seeing you a little stuck on the current landscape theme,and I hear a lot of rumors about Windows-like layout. So I created a new theme based on the meaning of the name: Leonidas come from Lions and Leonidas was a king,so why don't use another king? This looks really great. There are a couple problems though: - We are *really* late in the schedule right now, and we had already made a decision, based on our survey, to go with a landscape depicting Greece so we have a number of mockups and work around that concept already. While I don't think it's completely out of the question to change course at this point, we will definitely need a commitment of help from you in getting some mockups for the other elements, e.g. some of the splash screens, etc. Can you give us that commitment and help us meet our deadlines in spite of a change in direction? - None of the source images that you used are referenced. Can you please provide references for your source images before uploading artwork to the wiki? Thanks, ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
On Friday 27 March 2009 14:07:26 Martin Sourada wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 12:32 +0100, Samuele Storari wrote: Hi guys, I want to submit a new concept and a new layout for this F11 release, seeing you a little stuck on the current landscape theme,and I hear a lot of rumors about Windows-like layout. So I created a new theme based on the meaning of the name: Leonidas come from Lions and Leonidas was a king,so why don't use another king? This graphic proposal is about the proud and the glory for being a king and the subject is shouting:The King is here!. I know that there's a lot of work to do, (banner much more), but I wanted to share this concept, and get some feedbacks,before moving on. If you are interested we can make togeather all the things needed for this release. I really hope you enjoy this, and let me know your opinions. You can see the image here (Gimp source in the same page): https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:King_1920x1200.jpg Thanks for the attention. Samuele Hi Samuele, I'm not sure if it is OK to go at this point with a conceptually completely new theme but still your design looks awesome. I have only a few to point out: * The circles at the left side seem to be a little strange, also since fedora's default layout has some icons on the left part of the screen it would be nice to have the wallpaper in that part less cluttered +1 Same as actual Leonidas wallpaper it's maybe too overcomplicated for icons and widgets. Samule, could you redesign it? Simple, clean left side in opposite to rich right one? But it's really nice design! Maybe won't be default one, I let decision on artwork team ;-), but I'll add it to my wallpapers collection... It's nearly time to have final one... Jaroslav * I think the birds, or whatever they are, are unnecessary -- the main concern with the current wallpaper is that it concentrates on too many motives at once, I think this apply on this one as well * I'd perhaps remove the stripes over the lion As for whether it is OK to use this concept for F11, I'd leave the answer to Mo. Martin -- Jaroslav Řezník jrez...@redhat.com Associate Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 731 455 332 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
- Original Message From: Máirín Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com - None of the source images that you used are referenced. Can you please provide references for your source images before uploading artwork to the wiki? Oh, I found the references, sorry for that. The lion picture has a clause that I just want to double check is okay: Please note that my pictures are under the Creative Commons license. You are free to use them in any commercial or non-commercial application, but please send me a message if you used or plan on using any of my pictures, especially for commercial purposes. Thanks in advance. If he *requires* notice of commercial usage, it may pose a problem for Fedora resellers, I'll discuss this with Fedora legal to make sure and perhaps we can talk to the photographer and get his okay if it would be an issue. The rust texture doesn't have an explicit license. I can try to contact Jeff to see if he can commit to a specific CC-based license that's acceptable for Fedora: http://www.lostandtaken.com/2008/12/reader-submitted-textures-jeff-foster.html Same problem with the spray brushes. The license isn't explicit. Free can mean a lot of things and not all of them involve the kind of free we need, unfortunately. I can try to contact them as well. http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-two In the future, it would save a lot of work and heartache to make sure we use work that has explicitly approved licenses. When someone says something like, hey guys here u go it's free have it! it unfortunately does not count as an explicit license in our pre-approved list, so we have to go to Fedora legal on a case-by-case basis and many times contact the authors themselves (who are not always responsive or even reachable) to clarify the situation. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 12:32 +0100, Samuele Storari wrote: [...] The Spray paint brushes I used comes from here: http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-one http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-two those brushes are released with this licence: http://blogspoon.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/freebies/terms-of-use.html I think it's ok to use it :) What do you think? Luca -- Today is Sweetmorn, the 13th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 An exotic journey in downtown Newark is in your future. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Luca Foppiano a écrit : | | those brushes are released with this licence: | | http://blogspoon.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/freebies/terms-of-use.html | | I think it's ok to use it :) | | What do you think? | | Luca Never heard that license before. I wonder if it is GPL or CC compatible. - -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic Web Designer E: l...@fedoraproject.org W: http://thefinalzone.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknNFHcACgkQa10Jb0NOz+EjTACfUeq7J8Beug4iYiBbit8ffBJZ w4AAoIlI/voQpcxPN5ZY1EMojLwQw96e =Lgi0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 04:50:49PM +0100, Luca Foppiano wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 12:32 +0100, Samuele Storari wrote: [...] The Spray paint brushes I used comes from here: http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-one http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-two those brushes are released with this licence: http://blogspoon.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/freebies/terms-of-use.html I think it's ok to use it :) What do you think? IANAL, but that reads to me as if it has a non-commerical use clause. It first references that it is under the CC BY, which is on the good license list for Fedora: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing#Good_Licenses_3 ... but then the page goes on to specify: You can NOT sell the resources directly for profit (eg. Selling the items on stock resource websites) Note that the license called out first does not have any non-commercial use clauses: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/uk/ ... but because they have the right to add additional clauses, and appear to have done so, it seems as if they made their redistribution require non-commercial use. Anyway, they encourage us to ask: http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/contact So you might want to get that clarified that they mean to add an additional non-commercial use clause. FWIW, the second clause about not copying the website makes sense to me. The website is a separate from the individual graphic elements, and might even have trademark restrictions, etc. This doesn't seem to put any clauses on the individual resources being licensed. - Karsten -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener http://quaid.fedorapeople.org AD0E0C41 pgpBqWAAouHs7.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 07:39:41AM -0700, Máirín Duffy wrote: - Original Message From: Máirín Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com - None of the source images that you used are referenced. Can you please provide references for your source images before uploading artwork to the wiki? Oh, I found the references, sorry for that. The lion picture has a clause that I just want to double check is okay: Please note that my pictures are under the Creative Commons license. You are free to use them in any commercial or non-commercial application, but please send me a message if you used or plan on using any of my pictures, especially for commercial purposes. Thanks in advance. If he *requires* notice of commercial usage, it may pose a problem for Fedora resellers, I'll discuss this with Fedora legal to make sure and perhaps we can talk to the photographer and get his okay if it would be an issue. The way this license reads, the author is asking (note please) for a contact, but it's not required as it would be had he used the wording but you must send me a message This doesn't conflict with his clear statement that the recipient is free to use the picture in any application. The rust texture doesn't have an explicit license. I can try to contact Jeff to see if he can commit to a specific CC-based license that's acceptable for Fedora: http://www.lostandtaken.com/2008/12/reader-submitted-textures-jeff-foster.html Same problem with the spray brushes. The license isn't explicit. Free can mean a lot of things and not all of them involve the kind of free we need, unfortunately. I can try to contact them as well. http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-two The licensing statements for the freebies on the site are kept here: http://blogspoon.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/freebies/terms-of-use.html Quoting: ''' You Can: * Use the resources in your personal work, in whole or part. * Use the resources in your commercial work, in whole or part. * Modify the work to your personal preference. * Share the resources with others, under the following terms: o Link to the resource webpage, not the download file. o Use an excerpt from the webpage if necessary (don’t copy * the full article and display it on your site) You Can Not: * You can NOT sell the resources directly for profit (eg. Selling the items on stock resource websites) * You can NOT copy the full webpage and display it on your own website. (Use an excerpt by all means, but please link to the original resource download page – not the actual file.) ''' The part that bothers me about these licensing texts is the statement of terms for sharing: it is unclear about whether you *must* link to his resource web page. It would be much better for the author to use a standard license such as CC-BY-SA or some other more appropriate license, not something he's written himself. In the future, it would save a lot of work and heartache to make sure we use work that has explicitly approved licenses. When someone says something like, hey guys here u go it's free have it! it unfortunately does not count as an explicit license in our pre-approved list, so we have to go to Fedora legal on a case-by-case basis and many times contact the authors themselves (who are not always responsive or even reachable) to clarify the situation. +1. Especially when there is not much in the way of time or resources free, having to do all this is a real drag, and gets in the way of creating and promoting beautiful art and design. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpsZMotuN5Kq.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 07:39 -0700, Máirín Duffy wrote: The rust texture doesn't have an explicit license. I can try to contact Jeff to see if he can commit to a specific CC-based license that's acceptable for Fedora: http://www.lostandtaken.com/2008/12/reader-submit This is the reply to my asking about possibility to use his resource: Hey Luca, It's good to hear from you! The textures you linked to are actually copyright-free, so you can do whatever you like with them. All of the textures I give away are available for commercial and personal uses, without attribution required. Glad you find the textures useful and if you need anything else just let me know. Caleb Luca -- Today is Sweetmorn, the 13th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 The Usenet news is out of date ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
