Re: The third draft for F10 Solar CD/DVD sleeves
I've only a little propose: it can be useful writing on the rear of the sleeves some Fedora mains features, like version of kernel and Xorg. -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org GPG fingerprint: DAD1 6419 D42B 0B1C D9E1 A9CB 4587 4812 17F7 F764 ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: The third draft for F10 Solar CD/DVD sleeves
2008/10/16 Paul W. Frields [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Good point. We can't really say just PCs either thanks to Apple's switch to Intel CPUs. May be a little nitpicky, but what's wrong with calling a machine made by Apple (regardless of whether it has a ppc, pcc64, or Intel chip) a PC? By every definition (other than Apple's marketing), it is a personal computer thereby qualifying it as a PC. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: The third draft for F10 Solar CD/DVD sleeves
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 17:30 -0400, Jarod Wen wrote: Hi Adam, Thanks for your comment. In fact the sentence has been changed back to be i686 Live CD to conform to the names in the download page of live cd. Please find the new version from the top of the list. The names on the download page should be changed, not your cover. For a while now we've needed to make those pages more accessible to non-techies, and Mo had made a very attractive new draft for that purpose: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/webdesign/get-fedora/ I notice that her draft also includes i686 but I think that we really should be eliminating jargon as much as possible. I'll bring that up on the Websites list as a follow-on, since I didn't notice it earlier. Am I completely wrong that For Intel-compatible PCs is better for the users to whom we're handing these out? If we were to make special 64-bit covers, I'd suggest For 64-bit PCs. The number of 64-bit machines is steadily growing in the USA but the people who typically ask specifically for 64-bit don't need to be told what they have. On the other hand, the only way to accommodate people who *don't* know is to give them the standard 32-bit version, and they don't need to know the difference. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: The third draft for F10 Solar CD/DVD sleeves
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 16:32 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Paul W. Frields wrote: Am I completely wrong that For Intel-compatible PCs is better for the users to whom we're handing these out? If we were to make special 64-bit covers, I'd suggest For 64-bit PCs. The number of 64-bit machines is steadily growing in the USA but the people who typically ask specifically for 64-bit don't need to be told what they have. On the other hand, the only way to accommodate people who *don't* know is to give them the standard 32-bit version, and they don't need to know the difference. Well, probably the AMD fanboys are not that happy with spelling Intel... Note: for the time being I run mostly Intel machines, but I still am an AMD fanboy at heart and understand why spelling Intel *may* be better for newbies (which newbies should be educated by someone). Good point. We can't really say just PCs either thanks to Apple's switch to Intel CPUs. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: The third draft for F10 Solar CD/DVD sleeves
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 10:18 -0400, Jon Stanley wrote: 2008/10/16 Paul W. Frields [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Good point. We can't really say just PCs either thanks to Apple's switch to Intel CPUs. May be a little nitpicky, but what's wrong with calling a machine made by Apple (regardless of whether it has a ppc, pcc64, or Intel chip) a PC? By every definition (other than Apple's marketing), it is a personal computer thereby qualifying it as a PC. You should bring this up with Apple -- or maybe TBWA\Chiat\Day -- given their recent ads which still position Macs as something different than PCs. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: The third draft for F10 Solar CD/DVD sleeves
May be a little nitpicky, but what's wrong with calling a machine made by Apple (regardless of whether it has a ppc, pcc64, or Intel chip) a PC? By every definition (other than Apple's marketing), it is a personal computer thereby qualifying it as a PC. Personally, I wish I could see on the sleeve that my mac can use it. Of course, I admitted that when I was a newbie in Linux, I was rather confused by the name of i386/586/686... Maybe a simple mark, saying 32- bit or 64-bit, will be better? Or we just mention the 64-bit CD/DVD separately but none on CD? I really like these, however, I'd also like to drive any potential contributors to join.fedoraproject.org on the back of the sleeve. I think that we did that with F9 to great effect. Comments, criticisms or flames? :) I noticed that in the final printable sleeves for Fedora 9 fedoraproject.org has been changed to join.fedoraproject.org. Maybe it is a good idea to follow this way, isn't it? -- Jarod Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: The third draft for F10 Solar CD/DVD sleeves
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 11:07 -0400, Jarod Wen wrote: May be a little nitpicky, but what's wrong with calling a machine made by Apple (regardless of whether it has a ppc, pcc64, or Intel chip) a PC? By every definition (other than Apple's marketing), it is a personal computer thereby qualifying it as a PC. Personally, I wish I could see on the sleeve that my mac can use it. Of course, I admitted that when I was a newbie in Linux, I was rather confused by the name of i386/586/686... Maybe a simple mark, saying 32- bit or 64-bit, will be better? Or we just mention the 64-bit CD/DVD separately but none on CD? That's what I was driving at -- we shouldn't need to point out 32-bit since it won't be helpful to most people who don't know the difference. We can call out 64-bit specifically if desired, for the exact opposite reason. I really like these, however, I'd also like to drive any potential contributors to join.fedoraproject.org on the back of the sleeve. I think that we did that with F9 to great effect. Comments, criticisms or flames? :) I noticed that in the final printable sleeves for Fedora 9 fedoraproject.org has been changed to join.fedoraproject.org. Maybe it is a good idea to follow this way, isn't it? Yes, see the separate thread on the fifth draft (:-D) for details. The big link should be join.fedoraproject.org. I don't think it's a problem if we have the help.fedoraproject.org link contained in the smaller instructions section. We just want to make sure it's *not* as noticeable as join.fp.o. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: The third draft for F10 Solar CD/DVD sleeves
Hi Adam, Thanks for your comment. In fact the sentence has been changed back to be i686 Live CD to conform to the names in the download page of live cd. Please find the new version from the top of the list. Thanks! On Oct 15, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Adam Pribyl wrote: There is a typo at: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jarodwen/Fedora/10/sleeve_arts/r5/Artwork_MediaArt_F10_CDSleeve_1.png For all Inter-Compatible PCs - For all Intel-Compatible PCs. even though inter-compatible PC is also nice.:) Adam Pribyl -- Jarod Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: The third draft for F10 Solar CD/DVD sleeves
There is a typo at: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jarodwen/Fedora/10/sleeve_arts/r5/Artwork_MediaArt_F10_CDSleeve_1.png For all Inter-Compatible PCs - For all Intel-Compatible PCs. even though inter-compatible PC is also nice.:) Adam Pribyl ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: The third draft for F10 Solar CD/DVD sleeves
John Poelstra wrote: Here is an interesting comparison I noticed at OSCON this year after stopping by the SuSE booth http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/paste-bin/suse-vs-fedora-cover.jpg I realize there are differing philosophies as to how much or little content should be on the cover and what it should say :) I think we should consider the target audience for these discs when making that decision IOW who is most likely to receive the sleeve and what do they need to know? Maybe *I* am not the target audience[1], but I do not like the SUSE cover, its too busy, with so much text that is simply makes me to not read it. Only the Novell word grab my attention, but not too much. It's boring and a corporate look. I like how from the first look I can understand that the other disc is a DVD and is Fedora. [1] I made in the past such silly CD covers like the one with the werewolf -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: The third draft for F10 Solar CD/DVD sleeves
On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 21:57 -0500, Ian Weller wrote: On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 08:01:16PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: The x86_32 should simply be x86. Actually, in the case of the Live CD, it should be i686. Or, for installer CDs, i386. (from what I remember) Stamping these technicalities on the cover of a disc intended for people who are (more often than not) new to Linux is silly. Better that we drop the jargon entirely and just say For all Intel-compatible PCs. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
The third draft for F10 Solar CD/DVD sleeves
The planets are updated to the one in the following file. Another version with less colors will come soon. The link is unchanged: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jarodwen/Fedora/10/sleeve_arts/sleeve_arts.html Best, On Oct 7, 2008, at 12:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/b/b9/Solar_dual-std.xcf.bz2 -- Jarod Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: The third draft for F10 Solar CD/DVD sleeves
On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 13:54 -0400, Jarod Wen wrote: The planets are updated to the one in the following file. Another version with less colors will come soon. The link is unchanged: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jarodwen/Fedora/10/sleeve_arts/sleeve_arts.html Other people have already pointed out that removing the nebula will probably help reduce the number of colors. The x86_32 should simply be x86. We still need some additional text that describes for the recipient how to use the media in hand. I think I suggested some text for this earlier: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-October/msg00057.html -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: The third draft for F10 Solar CD/DVD sleeves
Paul W. Frields said the following on 10/07/2008 05:01 PM Pacific Time: On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 13:54 -0400, Jarod Wen wrote: The planets are updated to the one in the following file. Another version with less colors will come soon. The link is unchanged: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jarodwen/Fedora/10/sleeve_arts/sleeve_arts.html Other people have already pointed out that removing the nebula will probably help reduce the number of colors. The x86_32 should simply be x86. We still need some additional text that describes for the recipient how to use the media in hand. I think I suggested some text for this earlier: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-October/msg00057.html Here is an interesting comparison I noticed at OSCON this year after stopping by the SuSE booth http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/paste-bin/suse-vs-fedora-cover.jpg I realize there are differing philosophies as to how much or little content should be on the cover and what it should say :) I think we should consider the target audience for these discs when making that decision IOW who is most likely to receive the sleeve and what do they need to know? John ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: The third draft for F10 Solar CD/DVD sleeves
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 08:01:16PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: The x86_32 should simply be x86. Actually, in the case of the Live CD, it should be i686. Or, for installer CDs, i386. (from what I remember) -- Ian Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet. ~ Douglas Adams pgpJjjfQSai3k.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
