Re: Wallpaper survey
On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 16:48 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: Ian Weller wrote: However with the Grecian columns and stuff we need to be careful of not looking ancient, as some might say, but instead looking functional, practical, etc. Yes definitely. Like if the columns are ruins, we don't want to give off the message that Fedora is in ruins or something like that. We want to highlight the positive aspects... eg rather than posing Fedora as the column, if we've got say a pretty columns-ruins landscape, pose fedora as the vines and plants and nature growing on top of the the old columns (the columns then become the establishment/proprietary software) Then it becomes more, 'Fedora - making proprietary OSes history' rather than 'Fedora is old broken crap!' :) ~m Well, I think if the columns were not ruins [1](i.e. would be still standing and would not be broken, I think there are such in Greece even now) it would give much better message, like 'Fedora outlives its creators' or something like that (well, my example is a bit lame, I am not good with this stuff after all...). Martin Reference: [1] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Stoa_in_Athens.jpg signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Wallpaper survey
On Sat, 2009-01-24 at 10:57 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: Well, I think if the columns were not ruins [1](i.e. would be still standing and would not be broken, I think there are such in Greece even now) it would give much better message, like 'Fedora outlives its creators' or something like that (well, my example is a bit lame, I am not good with this stuff after all...). Martin Reference: [1] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Stoa_in_Athens.jpg Actually, here in Greece we still use ancient buildings to host many events (mostly theatrical plays and concerts). Buildings like Epidaurus[1], the Panathinaic Stadium[2] and the Herodion Theater[3] are still used until today. The are beautiful pictures with night-time events. The building Martin mentioned is a museum (the Stoa of Attalos). But there are many examples of Neoclassicism around the world. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidaurus [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panathinaiko_Stadium [3] http://www.greeka.com/attica/athens/athens-ancient-site/athens-herodion-theatre.htm Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Konstantinos Antonakoglou PGP key: 0xC9E2E16B anton.c...@gmail.com constanton @ Freenode signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Wallpaper survey
Hey folks, In case you didn't catch it on planet Fedora, I have been running an informal survey of the desktop backgrounds folks are using (getting responses from both Fedora and GNOME community members.) I've gotten a LOT of replies, check them out: http://mihmo.livejournal.com/68292.html So far as I've been able to read through them, they seem to fit into 3 categories: - #1 stick with the default (distro default or desktop env default) or flat solid color - #2 personalized no matter what (photos they took themselves or photos of family members) or a photo of an interest hobby (racecars, bikes, hometown, etc) - #3 beautiful pictures of nature, usually with some depth So I think as we are still thinking about our approach to F11, we should think about these wallpapers that folks are actually using and try to create something that they will like having as their desktop background as much as possible. #2 would be impossible for us to do, but #3 we can most certainly do. Looking at it this way, maybe for the wallpaper we could have a beautiful landscape with maybe some Grecian elements, maybe ruins of Grecian columns or a garden stylized in a Grecian way (maybe with some sculpture) and maybe we could follow the Golden Mean in laying out the elements of the image. What do you think? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Wallpaper survey
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:26:17AM -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: Hey folks, In case you didn't catch it on planet Fedora, I have been running an informal survey of the desktop backgrounds folks are using (getting responses from both Fedora and GNOME community members.) I've gotten a LOT of replies, check them out: http://mihmo.livejournal.com/68292.html So far as I've been able to read through them, they seem to fit into 3 categories: - #1 stick with the default (distro default or desktop env default) or flat solid color - #2 personalized no matter what (photos they took themselves or photos of family members) or a photo of an interest hobby (racecars, bikes, hometown, etc) - #3 beautiful pictures of nature, usually with some depth So I think as we are still thinking about our approach to F11, we should think about these wallpapers that folks are actually using and try to create something that they will like having as their desktop background as much as possible. #2 would be impossible for us to do, but #3 we can most certainly do. Looking at it this way, maybe for the wallpaper we could have a beautiful landscape with maybe some Grecian elements, maybe ruins of Grecian columns or a garden stylized in a Grecian way (maybe with some sculpture) and maybe we could follow the Golden Mean in laying out the elements of the image. What do you think? I really like that we're asking users to tell us what they do with their desktop backgrounds, and using that to inform how we deliver something they'll like (and hopefully use). Great idea! -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpPBozVYYMdv.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Wallpaper survey
Ian Weller wrote: However with the Grecian columns and stuff we need to be careful of not looking ancient, as some might say, but instead looking functional, practical, etc. Yes definitely. Like if the columns are ruins, we don't want to give off the message that Fedora is in ruins or something like that. We want to highlight the positive aspects... eg rather than posing Fedora as the column, if we've got say a pretty columns-ruins landscape, pose fedora as the vines and plants and nature growing on top of the the old columns (the columns then become the establishment/proprietary software) Then it becomes more, 'Fedora - making proprietary OSes history' rather than 'Fedora is old broken crap!' :) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Wallpaper survey
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 04:48:27PM -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: Ian Weller wrote: However with the Grecian columns and stuff we need to be careful of not looking ancient, as some might say, but instead looking functional, practical, etc. Yes definitely. Like if the columns are ruins, we don't want to give off the message that Fedora is in ruins or something like that. We want to highlight the positive aspects... eg rather than posing Fedora as the column, if we've got say a pretty columns-ruins landscape, pose fedora as the vines and plants and nature growing on top of the the old columns (the columns then become the establishment/proprietary software) Then it becomes more, 'Fedora - making proprietary OSes history' rather than 'Fedora is old broken crap!' :) There is the connotation of vines/kudzu as a vegetation pest rather than something more positive. I could be stretching a bit for that interpretation, though. Another idea: Atlas is a Greek mythological figure (a Titan, actually) that held up the world. Note the similarity in the way that Fedora contributes to the FOSS community when we're doing it right. Does this spur any design thoughts for anyone? -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpWgPasBUR34.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Wallpaper survey
Máirín Duffy wrote: Hey folks, In case you didn't catch it on planet Fedora, I have been running an informal survey of the desktop backgrounds folks are using (getting responses from both Fedora and GNOME community members.) Adminning around my group I found two interesting themes that people like (apart from the usual). 1: A picture of their actual desk. With their notes and scribbles and pieces of equipment and such. This looks really good. I encourage people to try it. 2: Four bold colour landscapes or even just solid colours for each time of the day (morning:blue, noon:white, evening:red, night:black). That way they know what time of the day it is (PhDs can not tell the time of day) and what time to go home. Much brighter than the ones by default. Interestingly they like to do this by overwriting the default background png files (in this case the FC8 infinity ones) rather than making a new xml. They generally feel that the default ones are not different enough to tell apart, but that might not be a bad thing. These are not necessarily the ways we wish to go with the default background but just to answer the enquiry. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Wallpaper survey
On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 17:44 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 04:48:27PM -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: Ian Weller wrote: However with the Grecian columns and stuff we need to be careful of not looking ancient, as some might say, but instead looking functional, practical, etc. Yes definitely. Like if the columns are ruins, we don't want to give off the message that Fedora is in ruins or something like that. We want to highlight the positive aspects... eg rather than posing Fedora as the column, if we've got say a pretty columns-ruins landscape, pose fedora as the vines and plants and nature growing on top of the the old columns (the columns then become the establishment/proprietary software) Then it becomes more, 'Fedora - making proprietary OSes history' rather than 'Fedora is old broken crap!' :) There is the connotation of vines/kudzu as a vegetation pest rather than something more positive. I could be stretching a bit for that interpretation, though. It just needs to be the right vine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clematis -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams ivazquez...@gmail.com PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
