Re: abrt + X Error = zillions of duplicate bug reports?

2009-11-25 Thread Michal Hlavinka
On Tuesday 24 November 2009 22:49:53 Matěj Cepl wrote:
 Dne 24.11.2009 22:37, Adam Williamson napsal(a):
  We came up with several possible courses of action. First, we
  acknowledge that abrt team is working on improving duplicate detection,
  but Matej noted that this is intrinsically hard work and abrt will
  likely never be able to eliminate or even come close to eliminating
  duplicate reporting.
 
  What's the technical limitation to coming close here?  It seems likely
  that there will be some edge cases, but I would think that the majority
  of cases aren't all that exceptional, and are fundamentally
  straightforward to work out.
 
 Don't ask me, I am just a humble bug triager (putting abrt developer on
 CC of this message). What I can say is that even though I can see abrt
 devs work hard to eliminate duplicates, they don't succeed much.
 Apparently eliminating duplicates of bugs from beasts like Firefox or
 OpenOffice is excessively hard.

Afaik, there are several projects with some crash/exception handling on top of 
the stack. This makes it more difficult to find out where something actually 
crashed. I think solution to this is more plugins/individual configurations.

Something like /etc/abrt/conf.d/package_name.conf

with package_name.conf content something like this (of course with better 
format ;) :

refuseif()
{
  IF backtrace contains adobe flash THEN RefuseReporting(This crash is caused 
by proprietary blob, we can't fix it. Try to contact adobe);
  ELSE IF 

  return OK;
}

cropbacktrace()
{
  remove packagename's crash handler from top of the backtrace
}

And abrt will call these methods if they are defined.

Just my 2 cents

Michal

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Answers from the Candidate Questionnaire now in the Wiki (Was: Candidate Questionnaire status)

2009-11-25 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Hi

Me again ;-)

Thorsten Leemhuis wrote on 24.11.2009 08:44:
 Thorsten Leemhuis wrote on 17.11.2009 20:47:
 On 17.11.2009 07:54, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
 Thorsten Leemhuis wrote on 11.11.2009 22:30:
 As you may have heard already, several seats of the Fedora
 Board, FESCo, and FAMSCO are up for election soon(¹). Right now
 we are in the nomination period, which will be followed by a
 Candidate Questionnaire. [...]
 Deadline for answers: 20091124-06:00 UTC [...]
 Quick status update: I sent the questions to 23 people and 19 of them
 replied with the answers. I didn't get any replies to the questions (or
 my reminder mail from Sunday evening) from
 
 * Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira (RodrigoPadula)
 * Max Spevack (spevack)
 * Scott Seiersen (sseiersen)
 * Will Woods (wwoods)

Max sent a apology, but the other remained silent afaics.

 I hope to find time to work through the answers later today (in
 something like 12 hours from now) and publish them afterwards.

Compiled a wiki page with the answers and gave the nominees 12 hours to
check the results. A few bugs were found and fixed, but I think
everything is fine now.

So the answers are now free for public consumption on this page:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections/F13_Questionnaire

CU
knurd

P.S.: Just to make things clear 6 month early: next time somebody else
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Re: Fedora 12 x86 DVD images

2009-11-25 Thread Paolo Ciarrocchi
Jesse Keating jkeating at redhat.com writes:
[...]
 The base arch of the family is i386, just like we call the ppc spin
 ppc even though it only supports a subset of the ppc family, ditto
 sparc, arm, etc...
 

the problem is that the install and live ISOs are using different naming
formats, the install is using i386 while the live is using i686.

That's really confusing.

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Re: [RFA] Your [PACKAGE_NAME] did not pass QA

2009-11-25 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 25 novembre 2009 à 01:11 +0100, Matěj Cepl a écrit :

 I think you didn't get the message ... you are very welcome (well, I 
 guess, you are) to fix packaging of those fonts (see bugs at 
 http://is.gd/52X4m). If you say, that somebody else should do the work 
 (I was looking at it whether I could help there, but my estimate was 
 something like a week of full time work), then let that somebody else to 
 decide whether it makes sense.

Thanks Matěj

To sum up the situation:

1. The long-deprecated core fonts ecosystem is composed of users, some
code xorg side, and a large pile of font files this code accesses

2. The xorg code at at least one built-in backup font to use it are not
going away

3. The large pile of core fonts, OTOH, is in bitrotting packages that
didn't see real maintenance for a long time (were bitrotting way before
the Fedora Core handover and were never cleaned up since). They still
regularly fail and cause crashes that make a bad rep to Fedora fonts.

4. Some people like me and Matěj have been spending or were planning to
spend some time trying to fix this. Not because we use this stuff, but
because of some misplaced sense of duty. It is not fun stuff at all,
however, and anything that helps reducing the enveloppe to fix is
welcome news.

5. The real users of this stuff never contributed a bit to this
maintenance, avoid answering questions when people ask something about
it, refused to write packaging guidelines to help others do this work
for them when (repeatedly) invited to, and react in a very hostile
manner when they get a single mail asking them to make some effort to
stop using this stuff (either patching it out, convincing their upstream
to do this change, or finding another non-core-fonts-using alternative
to package in Fedora, there are many possible solutions). They were
*not* asked to help cleaning up the font packages themselves, because,
after all this years of no action, it's pretty clear none of them want
to.

In other words, they collectively expect someone else to do the ugly,
boring, and time-consuming work on the stuff they use, and BTW this
someone else should shut up about it and not remind them they behave
like parasites (let's call things by their real name).


Given all this, I'm not motivated a lot to contribute to this work
anymore (if I end up doing it it's because I promised people like Matěj
help, not because I feel like helping core fonts users anymore. If Matěj
and others do their part I'll help them but that's all). So I suppose
the only remaining course of action is to:

A. investigate if it's possible for a core fonts client to make sure it
only accesses the built-in backup core font.

B. if not investigate it it's possible to write a small proxy lib with a
core-fonts-like api that do not let an app select any font but the
built-in backup core font

C. if A. or B. are true, orphan all the core font packages in Fedora,
and give their current users the choice of :
 a. drop their core font use
 b. make sure they only access the built-in backup core font (possibly,
writing B themselves)
 c. actually pick up the maintenance of the core fonts packages they
use, starting with writing (and getting approved) clear guidelines how
they should be packaged, then passing each of the core fonts packages
they need through a thorough Fedora review (not let anyone re-import
them in their current awful state, then sit up doing nothing about it)

In others words, go through the orphan route that was suggested by
others in this thread.

(RHEL will of course make its own choices)

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Re: abrt + X Error = zillions of duplicate bug reports?

2009-11-25 Thread Karel Klic

Hi Adam,

please see below.

On 11/24/2009 08:15 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Sun, 2009-11-22 at 19:21 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote:

So,

since I've already received 3 separate bug reports caused by BadIDChoice
X Error in subtitleeditor [1][2][3] (haven't had enough time to debug
and try to fix it yet though) by abrt, I wonder if there is any room for
duplicity detection improvement in these cases, or if we are doomed to
zillions of duplicates in rhbz? (btw. otherwise abrt is awesome, IMHO
the bugreports from abrt are much more useful than before :-)


We discussed this issue at the Bugzappers meeting today. BZ would like
to register that the high level of duplicates reported by abrt is a
significant issue for triage work. We're not sure we can sustainably
triage some major components (e.g. Firefox) if the current situation
continues.

We came up with several possible courses of action. First, we
acknowledge that abrt team is working on improving duplicate detection,
but Matej noted that this is intrinsically hard work and abrt will
likely never be able to eliminate or even come close to eliminating
duplicate reporting.


The algorithm for duplicate detection in the currently released version 
of ABRT is very rudimentary: it removes only the most obvious duplicates 
in simple programs. As far as I know it does not work for applications 
with variable number of threads (e.g. Firefox).


Fortunately now we have a new algorithm for duplicate detection which 
handles all the cases in a significantly better way. Most of the code is 
written, but it needs some testing before releasing. I guess it will 
take two weeks or so to finish it, and to make sure it works well.


An important attribute of the new algorithm is that it errs on the side 
of false duplicates. So it will much more often say some bug is a 
duplicate of another bug, even if sometimes it is not the case. It 
should make abrt bug flow sustainable, and than we can slowly improve 
the detection mechanism to be more accurate.




Second, we wondered if abrt team might be able to assist in running any
improved duplicate detection mechanisms over already-reported bugs in
Bugzilla retrospectively. We will follow up with them about that.

Third, we agreed to look at methods used in GNOME and other Bugzillas to
cope with high levels of duplicate reporting from automated tools, such
as extracting significant sections of tracebacks as bug comments to make
manual duplicate detection faster and easier.


Good idea.



Finally, we considered - and rather approved of - the proposal that's
been floated on this list (and was floating in the meeting by Will
Woods) to consider using the mechanism used by the kernel developers for
kernel oopses: instead of being reported direct to Bugzilla, these are
reported to an intermediate site (kerneloops.org) and can be promoted
from there to Bugzilla if appropriate. Will is planning to work on this
idea after finishing up some AutoQA work, and will talk to abrt team
about it and see if they are interested in helping. He would welcome
contact from anyone else who's interested in helping with that, too.


When the duplicate detection works, it would be a loss to not have the 
crashes directly in Bugzilla. I often see that the crashes reported by 
ABRT are located in the code and fixed.


If we fail to deliver better detection, then some intermediate site is 
certainly better target for thousands of duplicates than Bugzilla.


I would propose to create some intermediate site as a target for users 
who are not experienced enough to create an account in Bugzilla and to 
respond to questions, or they simply do not care. Then, it would be 
possible for them to report almost automatically, and we could get a lot 
of backtraces and support data that is currently lost. However, this 
must be thought out (security issue with backtraces).




That's all, really - I just took an action item to pass on our thoughts
about this :)



Best regards,
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Re: [RFA] Your [PACKAGE_NAME] did not pass QA

2009-11-25 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 25 novembre 2009 à 10:03 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit :

 A. investigate if it's possible for a core fonts client to make sure it
 only accesses the built-in backup core font.
 
 B. if not investigate it it's possible to write a small proxy lib with a
 core-fonts-like api that do not let an app select any font but the
 built-in backup core font

Or even simpler, define a magic font name the core fonts system never
resolves to anything else than the built-in font.

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Re: [RFC] unified i386/x86_64 install media.

2009-11-25 Thread Nikolay Ulyanitsky
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 09:38, Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro wrote:
 Instead of this I would pretty much like to have the normal install DVD
 being full (4GB, instead of 3.0-3.3GB as now), so when installing a
 computer I have more content on local media and less stuff to get from
 online sources, resulting in a shorter time until the computer is fully
 usable.

+1
There is a big problem for people of almost all small cities in
Ukraine to download a DVD or get software from internet.
Internet access is a dialup/gprs.
Fedora respins with additional software (like
http://russianfedora.ru/) is more popular among them.
People usually exchange DVDs among themselves.


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Re: abrt + X Error = zillions of duplicate bug reports?

2009-11-25 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 10:52 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote:
 On Sun, 2009-11-22 at 19:21 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote:
  So, 
  
  since I've already received 3 separate bug reports caused by BadIDChoice
  X Error in subtitleeditor [1][2][3] (haven't had enough time to debug
  and try to fix it yet though) by abrt, I wonder if there is any room for
  duplicity detection improvement in these cases, or if we are doomed to
  zillions of duplicates in rhbz? (btw. otherwise abrt is awesome, IMHO
  the bugreports from abrt are much more useful than before :-)
 
 I know this is non-obvious, but: BadIDChoice or BadImplementation X
 errors are _always_ bugs in libX11 or the server itself, respectively.
 Please reassign BadIDChoice bugs to libX11.
 
Thanks for the info. Bug 538382 reassigned to libX11.

Martin


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Re: [RFC] unified i386/x86_64 install media.

2009-11-25 Thread Jeroen van Meeuwen
On 11/25/2009 08:38 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote:
 Instead of this I would pretty much like to have the normal install DVD
 being full (4GB, instead of 3.0-3.3GB as now), so when installing a
 computer I have more content on local media and less stuff to get from
 online sources, resulting in a shorter time until the computer is fully
 usable.
 

You might want an Everything spin ;-)

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Re: [RFC] unified i386/x86_64 install media.

2009-11-25 Thread Jeroen van Meeuwen
On 11/25/2009 03:26 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
 On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Matthew Miller wrote:
 So would this mean one disk with two repositories on it, or is
 everything
 mashed together all in one repository?
 
 it'd be easy to have two sets of repodata in two different dirs pointing
 to the same set of pkgs.
 

On 11/25/2009 07:28 AM, Jesse Keating wrote:
 Two repos, but with hardlinks.

I doubt ISO9660 can deal with hardlinks, but I have to admit I've never
really tried (I did try once and gave up pretty quickly I recall).

Also, the way I understand this works, you can just include x86_64
packages in the one repository...

When the system boots 32-bit (kernel, userland, etc, using syslinux
3.72+ ifcpu64.c32 which I have not yet been able to get to work yet) the
x86_64 packages won't show up in the available packages, 'cause of how
YUM does something with a list of compatArchs, right?

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Bug in python?

2009-11-25 Thread Christoph Höger
Hi,

while I was investigating an offlineimap bug, the following happened
quite often:

 File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 497, in __bootstrap
self.__bootstrap_inner()
  File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 575, in
__bootstrap_inner
self.__stop()
  File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 586, in __stop
self.__block.notify_all()
  File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 289, in notifyAll
self.notify(len(self.__waiters))
  File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 277, in notify
self._note(%s.notify(): no waiters, self)
  File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 68, in _note
current_thread().name, format)
  File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 808, in currentThread
return _DummyThread()
  File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 788, in __init__
self._Thread__started.set()
  File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 378, in set
self.__cond.notify_all()
  File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 289, in notifyAll
self.notify(len(self.__waiters))
  File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 277, in notify
self._note(%s.notify(): no waiters, self)
  File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 68, in _note
current_thread().name, format)
  File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 808, in currentThread
return _DummyThread()
  File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 788, in __init__
self._Thread__started.set()
  File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 378, in set
self.__cond.notify_all()
  File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 289, in notifyAll
self.notify(len(self.__waiters))
  File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 277, in notify
self._note(%s.notify(): no waiters, self)
  File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 68, in _note
current_thread().name, format)
  File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 808, in currentThread
return _DummyThread()
  File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 788, in __init__
self._Thread__started.set()
  File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 378, in set
self.__cond.notify_all()
  File /usr/lib64/python2.6/threading.py, line 289, in notifyAll



Looks to me like calling _DummyThread() every time and then printing a
debug output is a bad idea, right?


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Re: [RFC] unified i386/x86_64 install media.

2009-11-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 11/25/2009 01:13 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:

On 11/25/2009 08:38 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote:

Instead of this I would pretty much like to have the normal install DVD
being full (4GB, instead of 3.0-3.3GB as now), so when installing a
computer I have more content on local media and less stuff to get from
online sources, resulting in a shorter time until the computer is fully
usable.



You might want an Everything spin ;-)


... or an install using a local copy of Everything on local network or 
machine-local filesystem [1]


It's what I had been using when I only had low bandwidth access[1].

Ralf

[1] I live in a DSL white spot ;-)

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Re: Fedora 12 Extremely Unstable

2009-11-25 Thread Mike Chambers
On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 21:08 -0500, brad longo wrote:
 I just installed Fedora 12, to replace Fedora 11, and I have some bugs
 but I'm not sure where to file them.  Please help me get these into
 bugzilla as they are urgent. 
  1. Fedora 12 crashes frequently and makes it almost unusable for
 me.  It seems to crash whenever I try to edit/change sound
 preferences.  When I do this I get logged out and then have to
 log back in.  I can repeat this at any time by going to go
 System-Preferences-Sound.
 
  2. Editing preferences for certain programs causes me to be
 logged out but this is random and I haven't found a way to
 repeat it.
 
  3. Changes to keyboard shortcuts are not saved.  I tried mapping
 Alt+T as the shortcut for the terminal and it does not work.

Have you also updated your system since the install to make sure you any
included fixes/updates that didn't make it to final release?

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Re: [RFC] unified i386/x86_64 install media.

2009-11-25 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jeff Garzik jgar...@pobox.com said:
 On 11/25/2009 01:32 AM, Jesse Keating wrote:
 Look closer. It is only a small subset of the i686 content in the x86_64
 repo for multilib purposes.
 
 That's merely a space issue, not any failure to or absence of mash

No, it isn't just an issue of space.  You don't want to present all of
the i386 repo to x86_64 installs, as a lot of the packages would result
in conflicts.  Only a subset of i686 packages can coexist with x86_64
packages.
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Re: F12 install stops at screen switch (language select)

2009-11-25 Thread Jos Vos
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 07:18:27PM +0100, Jos Vos wrote:

 OK, installing with nomodeset xdriver=intel vga=ask seems to work
 (chosen VESA 1024x768) and is busy now.
 
 I'll reopen my old bug and report more tomorrow.

OK, I tried several installs and tried to minimize what has to be
done and it already works when adding nomodeset, without any
additional xdriver or vga options.

After that, booting the system and starting X works too (without any
xorg.conf), but switching consoles only works when I have added some
vga setting (I use vga=792) to the grub kernel parameter list.  The
nomodeset is also in this list (added by anaconda).

Also, for the graphical boot screen the vga=... setting is needed too.

Will also log this information in the ticket.

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Re: example content

2009-11-25 Thread Mat Booth
2009/11/23 Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com:
 Hey,

 one change we are planning to make to the desktop spin in F13 is to go
 from targeting a cd to targeting a 1g usb stick. That will give us
 enough breathing room to include not only OpenOffice, but also some
 example content on the spin. We've wanted to do that for a long time,
 but the cd size restriction have prohibited that.

 The example content is meant to serve several purposes:

 - Be informative and/or pleasant

 - Allow users to try the included apps

 - Showcase content that has been produced with open source apps

 - Make the desktop spin more useful, e.g. to ambassadors


 Examples that might fit some of these categories are:

 - Suitably licensed music or movie trailers (big buck bunny has been
 mentioned already)

 - Spreadsheets or documents that contain interesting facts about Fedora
 or open source

 - the 1-page release notes pdf that was debuted for F12


 The purpose of this mail is to solicit proposals for content that might
 fit into these categories. Please send your proposals to
 fedora-desktop-list or just reply.


 Thanks!


 Matthias



Will all this magical content be in one easily-removable package? ;-)


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Re: [RFC] unified i386/x86_64 install media.

2009-11-25 Thread James Antill
On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 13:18 +0100, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
 On 11/25/2009 03:26 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
  On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Matthew Miller wrote:
  So would this mean one disk with two repositories on it, or is
  everything
  mashed together all in one repository?
  
  it'd be easy to have two sets of repodata in two different dirs pointing
  to the same set of pkgs.
  
 
 On 11/25/2009 07:28 AM, Jesse Keating wrote:
  Two repos, but with hardlinks.
 
 I doubt ISO9660 can deal with hardlinks, but I have to admit I've never
 really tried (I did try once and gave up pretty quickly I recall).
 
 Also, the way I understand this works, you can just include x86_64
 packages in the one repository...

 You can but that will break x86_64, because i386 will need i386
packages that x86_64 must not have as multilib.
 As Seth said, you can have one giant directory of packages and just
different repodata pointing to subsets.
 As Jesse said you could also use hardlinks/symlinks in the x86_64 repo.
 Or you could even create three repos. i386, x86_64 and i386-common (not
that I think that will be better than the other two options).

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Re: Answers from the Candidate Questionnaire now in the Wiki (Was: Candidate Questionnaire status)

2009-11-25 Thread inode0
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis fed...@leemhuis.info wrote:
 So the answers are now free for public consumption on this page:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections/F13_Questionnaire

 CU
 knurd

 P.S.: Just to make things clear 6 month early: next time somebody else
 has to handle the questionnaire.

knurd

I just want to thank you again for all your work on this. I understand
it is a burden to candidates and a lot of work for you to collect and
organize the answers but it sure makes for some interesting reading.
For those who don't personally know the candidates you have made a big
contribution to the recent elections.

John

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Issues with vsftpd on Fedora 12

2009-11-25 Thread Martin Dubuc
LDAP is enabled on my server for authentication. I would like to use vsftpd
on that server, but there is a very big delay during authentication and I am
wondering if this is not an issue with vsftpd software. It seems that even
if I log in as anonymous user, vsftpd tries to access LDAP server. On my
server, I see these error logs during authentication:

Nov 24 15:52:44 localhost vsftpd[25813]: nss_ldap: failed to bind to LDAP
server ldap://10.1.1.5/: Can't contact LDAP server
Nov 24 15:52:44 localhost vsftpd[25813]: nss_ldap: reconnecting to LDAP
server (sleeping 8 seconds)...

After a delay of more than a minute, vsftpd will authorize anonymous user,
but this very long delay is causing me a lot of grief. What is even more
surprising is that I ran tcpdump to see the vsftpd communication to the LDAP
server, but the LDAP server never receives any packets from my Fedora 12
server. It looks like vsftpd thinks it needs to contact the server, but
never does. What is also surprising is that I can ssh to that server and ssh
is configured to use the LDAP server. So, the LDAP server is reachable from
that server.

Not sure how to troubleshoot this issue or if I am the only one with this
problem.

Martin
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Re: [RFC] unified i386/x86_64 install media.

2009-11-25 Thread Jesse Keating



On Nov 24, 2009, at 22:49, Jeff Garzik jgar...@pobox.com wrote:


On 11/25/2009 01:32 AM, Jesse Keating wrote:

On Nov 24, 2009, at 19:30, Jeff Garzik jgar...@pobox.com wrote:


On 11/24/2009 09:58 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 09:19:22PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:

So would this mean one disk with two repositories on it, or is
everything
mashed together all in one repository?
The current x86-64 has both 32-bit and 64-bit mashed together,  
so

that
sort of configuration would be more of the same.


Well, it's currently only half-mashed.


In Fedora 12, the i686 and x86-64 rpms are in the same directory, on
the x86-64 DVD ISO.

That's sufficiently mashed for my purposes, but whatever... :)


Look closer. It is only a small subset of the i686 content in the  
x86_64

repo for multilib purposes.


That's merely a space issue, not any failure to or absence of mash

   Jeff




Wow. Ok let me be clear here. The 32 bit packages you see are  
specifically selected to fulfill a multilib role. We cannot put every  
package in as there would be lots of conflicts in the packages that  
are nit suitable for multilib.


Please stop making assumptions about our compose process and strategy  
which you clearly don't understand.


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Re: example content

2009-11-25 Thread Muayyad AlSadi
 Will all this magical content be in one easily-removable package? ;-)

maybe we need something like fedora-logos and generic-logos
ie. fedora-samples and generic-samples (for easy trademark
re-branding) they both may provide system-samples or desktop-samples
(other spins could have kde-desktop-samples and
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Re: Fedora 12 Extremely Unstable

2009-11-25 Thread Brad Longo
I reinstalled Fedora, and also checked the cd I installed from to see if 
that would fix the problem.  I believe the issues I had previously may 
have been caused by putting /home on its own lvm, which I did not do 
when I reinstalled.  I wanted to do this so I could install future 
releases without having to erase the home folder.  Unfortunately, I 
don't have the time continue to reinstall Fedora over and over to 
confirm that putting /home on its own lvm is the source of the issue, 
but maybe someone else can replicate this?


Before reinstalling, the programs that crashed when I tried to edit 
their preferences were all of the ones I tried: Thunderbird, Empathy, 
and Mozilla.  The automatic bug reporting tool crashed the system when 
trying to report some of the bugs too.


The system was fully update when I was experiencing the crashes.

Reinstalling solved all of my problems except one.  Keyboard shortcuts 
are still not saved.  However, this issue is trivial compared to the 
frequent crashes I was experiencing before.


Brad.

On 11/25/2009 09:00 AM, Mike Chambers wrote:

On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 21:08 -0500, brad longo wrote:
   

I just installed Fedora 12, to replace Fedora 11, and I have some bugs
but I'm not sure where to file them.  Please help me get these into
bugzilla as they are urgent.
  1. Fedora 12 crashes frequently and makes it almost unusable for
 me.  It seems to crash whenever I try to edit/change sound
 preferences.  When I do this I get logged out and then have to
 log back in.  I can repeat this at any time by going to go
 System-Preferences-Sound.

  2. Editing preferences for certain programs causes me to be
 logged out but this is random and I haven't found a way to
 repeat it.

  3. Changes to keyboard shortcuts are not saved.  I tried mapping
 Alt+T as the shortcut for the terminal and it does not work.
 

Have you also updated your system since the install to make sure you any
included fixes/updates that didn't make it to final release?

   
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Re: Fedora 12 Extremely Unstable

2009-11-25 Thread Eric Sandeen
Brad Longo wrote:
 I reinstalled Fedora, and also checked the cd I installed from to see if
 that would fix the problem.  I believe the issues I had previously may
 have been caused by putting /home on its own lvm, which I did not do
 when I reinstalled.  I wanted to do this so I could install future
 releases without having to erase the home folder.  Unfortunately, I
 don't have the time continue to reinstall Fedora over and over to
 confirm that putting /home on its own lvm is the source of the issue,
 but maybe someone else can replicate this?

I'd be awfully surprised if this were the root cause.

The suggestion to run the failing application from a console, and look
for errors on the console and the X log, sounds like the best plan of
attack to me.

 Before reinstalling, the programs that crashed when I tried to edit
 their preferences were all of the ones I tried: Thunderbird, Empathy,
 and Mozilla.  The automatic bug reporting tool crashed the system when
 trying to report some of the bugs too.
 
 The system was fully update when I was experiencing the crashes.
 
 Reinstalling solved all of my problems except one.  Keyboard shortcuts
 are still not saved.  However, this issue is trivial compared to the
 frequent crashes I was experiencing before.

oh, ok.  Hm, odd.

-Eric

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Re: Fedora 12 Extremely Unstable

2009-11-25 Thread Brad Longo



On 11/25/2009 11:13 AM, Eric Sandeen wrote:

Brad Longo wrote:
   

I reinstalled Fedora, and also checked the cd I installed from to see if
that would fix the problem.  I believe the issues I had previously may
have been caused by putting /home on its own lvm, which I did not do
when I reinstalled.  I wanted to do this so I could install future
releases without having to erase the home folder.  Unfortunately, I
don't have the time continue to reinstall Fedora over and over to
confirm that putting /home on its own lvm is the source of the issue,
but maybe someone else can replicate this?
 

I'd be awfully surprised if this were the root cause.

The suggestion to run the failing application from a console, and look
for errors on the console and the X log, sounds like the best plan of
attack to me.

   

Before reinstalling, the programs that crashed when I tried to edit
their preferences were all of the ones I tried: Thunderbird, Empathy,
and Mozilla.  The automatic bug reporting tool crashed the system when
trying to report some of the bugs too.

The system was fully update when I was experiencing the crashes.

Reinstalling solved all of my problems except one.  Keyboard shortcuts
are still not saved.  However, this issue is trivial compared to the
frequent crashes I was experiencing before.
 

oh, ok.  Hm, odd.

-Eric
   
I just got keyboard shortcuts to work by enabling compiz.  Compiz was 
disabled by default.


Brad.
   

Brad.
 
   
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Re: Answers from the Candidate Questionnaire now in the Wiki (Was: Candidate Questionnaire status)

2009-11-25 Thread Bill Nottingham
inode0 (ino...@gmail.com) said: 
  So the answers are now free for public consumption on this page:
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections/F13_Questionnaire
 
 I just want to thank you again for all your work on this. I understand
 it is a burden to candidates and a lot of work for you to collect and
 organize the answers but it sure makes for some interesting reading.
 For those who don't personally know the candidates you have made a big
 contribution to the recent elections.

Agreed; thanks for all the hard work here!

Bill

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Final F-10 updates push

2009-11-25 Thread Josh Boyer
Hi All,

Fedora 10 will go EOL on December 17th.  The final day for
updates to be submitted will be December 14th.  Please make
sure any final updates you want pushed to the F10 repos are
submitted by this date.

Thanks,
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crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Jud Craft
I assumed, via the release notes, that the new Xorg operates in
extend-desktop mode by default.

However, I'm not sure.

When I hook up a running Fedora laptop to a projector, my desktop is
extended.  Very nice.
When I hook up the same projector and then -boot- my Fedora laptop, I
am set to mirrored-mode by default at startup.

Does anyone else have this?  Why are there two different external
display behaviors?

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Re: crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 12:33 -0500, Jud Craft wrote:
 I assumed, via the release notes, that the new Xorg operates in
 extend-desktop mode by default.
 
 However, I'm not sure.
 
 When I hook up a running Fedora laptop to a projector, my desktop is
 extended.  Very nice.
 When I hook up the same projector and then -boot- my Fedora laptop, I
 am set to mirrored-mode by default at startup.
 
 Does anyone else have this?  Why are there two different external
 display behaviors?

The latter is probably due to your BIOS... Have you tried plugging the
external projector when you're in GRUB and not before cold starting?


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Re: crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 12:33 -0500, Jud Craft wrote:
 I assumed, via the release notes, that the new Xorg operates in
 extend-desktop mode by default.
 
 However, I'm not sure.
 
 When I hook up a running Fedora laptop to a projector, my desktop is
 extended.  Very nice.
 When I hook up the same projector and then -boot- my Fedora laptop, I
 am set to mirrored-mode by default at startup.
 
 Does anyone else have this?  Why are there two different external
 display behaviors?

This is intentional. Plymouth is rendering the same boot animation on
all heads; not sure we can do much better. 

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Re: Fedora 12 Extremely Unstable

2009-11-25 Thread Orion Poplawski

On 11/24/2009 07:08 PM, brad longo wrote:

I just installed Fedora 12, to replace Fedora 11, and I have some bugs
but I'm not sure where to file them. Please help me get these into
bugzilla as they are urgent.

   1. Fedora 12 crashes frequently and makes it almost unusable for me.


This really isn't the proper mailling list, but try kernels (and *) from 
updates-testing, seem to have fixed a intermittent lockup on my machine.


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Re: abrt + X Error = zillions of duplicate bug reports?

2009-11-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 10:20 +0100, Karel Klic wrote:

  We came up with several possible courses of action. First, we
  acknowledge that abrt team is working on improving duplicate detection,
  but Matej noted that this is intrinsically hard work and abrt will
  likely never be able to eliminate or even come close to eliminating
  duplicate reporting.
 
 The algorithm for duplicate detection in the currently released version 
 of ABRT is very rudimentary: it removes only the most obvious duplicates 
 in simple programs. As far as I know it does not work for applications 
 with variable number of threads (e.g. Firefox).
 
 Fortunately now we have a new algorithm for duplicate detection which 
 handles all the cases in a significantly better way. Most of the code is 
 written, but it needs some testing before releasing. I guess it will 
 take two weeks or so to finish it, and to make sure it works well.
 
 An important attribute of the new algorithm is that it errs on the side 
 of false duplicates. So it will much more often say some bug is a 
 duplicate of another bug, even if sometimes it is not the case. It 
 should make abrt bug flow sustainable, and than we can slowly improve 
 the detection mechanism to be more accurate.

  Second, we wondered if abrt team might be able to assist in running any
  improved duplicate detection mechanisms over already-reported bugs in
  Bugzilla retrospectively. We will follow up with them about that.

 When the duplicate detection works, it would be a loss to not have the 
 crashes directly in Bugzilla. I often see that the crashes reported by 
 ABRT are located in the code and fixed.
 
 If we fail to deliver better detection, then some intermediate site is 
 certainly better target for thousands of duplicates than Bugzilla.
 
 I would propose to create some intermediate site as a target for users 
 who are not experienced enough to create an account in Bugzilla and to 
 respond to questions, or they simply do not care. Then, it would be 
 possible for them to report almost automatically, and we could get a lot 
 of backtraces and support data that is currently lost. However, this 
 must be thought out (security issue with backtraces).

Thanks, Karel. If you think you'll be able to manage a level of
duplicate detection which keeps things workable for triaging, that's
great news and would certainly make the whole situation simpler :). I
think we'd be willing to wait on that and see how it goes. I was working
from Matej's suggestion in the meeting that he'd talked to you (abrt
team) already and was sure that a high enough level of duplicate
detection was hard/impossible; if that's not the case, obviously it
changes things.

What do you think of the idea of running the improved duplicate
detection logic over existing abrt bug reports in Bugzilla? Would that
be feasible, perhaps with some help from the Bugzilla maintainer?
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Re: crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Jud Craft
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
 This is intentional. Plymouth is rendering the same boot animation on
 all heads; not sure we can do much better.

Oh, I don't mind that at all.  That's awesome.  I understand that
clone mode is excellent for Plymouth.

But after Fedora logs in, couldn't GNOME/Xorg set an extended desktop?
 Since that does seem to be the endorsed behavior.  Surely letting
Plymouth use clone mode doesn't mean the desktop session can't expand
the desktop after login?

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Re: crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 13:00 -0500, Jud Craft wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
  This is intentional. Plymouth is rendering the same boot animation on
  all heads; not sure we can do much better.
 
 Oh, I don't mind that at all.  That's awesome.  I understand that
 clone mode is excellent for Plymouth.
 
 But after Fedora logs in, couldn't GNOME/Xorg set an extended desktop?
  Since that does seem to be the endorsed behavior.  Surely letting
 Plymouth use clone mode doesn't mean the desktop session can't expand
 the desktop after login?

Oh, I misunderstood. Yeah, it should remember the previous configuration
you had with this combination of outputs. This information is stored in
~/.config/monitors.xml.

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Re: crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Jud Craft
 Oh, I misunderstood. Yeah, it should remember the previous configuration
 you had with this combination of outputs. This information is stored in
 ~/.config/monitors.xml.

Right.  I guess what I'm saying is...it doesn't seem to.

The very first time I booted my laptop with this (800x600) projector,
it defaulted to clone mode in session.

I left the room and restarted my laptop.  When I returned, plugging
the monitor in live resulted in an extended desktop (very cool).

I then restarted my laptop and let it boot fresh with the monitor
plugged in.  The desktop session started in clone mode again.

I have a completely-different-in-every-way giant widescreen monitor at
home, so I don't think Display Settings is mixing up the external
display configurations.

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memset bugs.

2009-11-25 Thread Dave Jones
There's some obvious bugs below in a bunch of packages.
The 2nd and 3rd arguments to memset calls are the wrong way around.
I found these after grepping through a make prep'd devel/ tree.

15 hits out of 100G of source code isn't that bad, but we can do better!

Dave

Checking ./afflib/afflib-3.5.2/lib/s3_glue.cpp
Found memset with swapped arguments.
303:memset(b64str,sizeof(b64str),0);

Checking ./afflib/afflib-3.5.2/lib/vnode_s3.cpp
Found memset with swapped arguments.
205:memset(segname,segname_len,0);

Checking ./afflib/afflib-3.5.2/lib/crypto.cpp
Found memset with swapped arguments.
975:memset(decrypted,total_encrypted_bytes,0); // overwrite our 
temp buffer

Checking ./panoglview/panoglview-0.2.2/src/panocanvas.cpp
Found memset with swapped arguments.
160:  memset(tmp,m_maxsize*m_maxsize,0);

Checking ./condor/condor-7.2.4/src/condor_c++_util/read_user_log_state.cpp
Found memset with swapped arguments.
497:memset( istate-m_base_path, sizeof(istate-m_base_path), 0 );

Checking ./milkytracker/milkytracker-0.90.80/src/milkyplay/LoaderPSM.cpp
Found memset with swapped arguments.
999:memset(packed,size-4+5,0);

Checking ./sim/sim/sim/sockfactory.cpp
Found memset with swapped arguments.
546:memset(addr, sizeof(addr), 0);

Checking ./commoncpp2/commoncpp2-1.7.3/src/thread.cpp
Found memset with swapped arguments.
525:memset(act, sizeof(act), 0);

Checking ./commoncpp2/commoncpp2-1.7.3/src/socket.cpp
Found memset with swapped arguments.
1571:   memset(group, sizeof(group), 0);

Checking ./celestia/celestia-1.5.1/src/celestia/winmain.cpp
Found memset with swapped arguments.
2181:memset(info, sizeof(info), 0);

Checking ./scummvm/scummvm-0.13.1/engines/tinsel/scene.cpp
Found memset with swapped arguments.
132:memset(tempStruc, sizeof(SCENE_STRUC), 0);

Checking ./aqsis/aqsis-1.6.0/tools/displays/sdcWin32/d_sdcWin32.cpp
Found memset with swapped arguments.
250:memset(g_Data, sizeof(AppData), 0);

Checking ./aqsis/aqsis-1.6.0/tools/displays/sdcBMP/d_sdcBMP.cpp
Found memset with swapped arguments.
172:memset(g_Data, sizeof(AppData), 0);

Checking ./arm4/arm4-0.8.2/src/libarm4db/berkeleydb/BerkeleyDB_report.cpp
Found memset with swapped arguments.
1603:   memset (summary_ptr, sizeof (*summary_ptr), 0);

Checking ./arm4/arm4-0.8.2/src/libarm4db/Arm4dbDaemonSharedMemory.cpp
Found memset with swapped arguments.
558:memset (stats_ptr, sizeof (*stats_ptr), 0);


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Re: crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Jud Craft craft...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oh, I misunderstood. Yeah, it should remember the previous configuration
 you had with this combination of outputs. This information is stored in
 ~/.config/monitors.xml.

 Right.  I guess what I'm saying is...it doesn't seem to.

At this point, wouldn't it be most constructive to reveal what the
contents of that file so we all have a baseline expectation as to what
should be happening?

For example when  you get a cloned setup do you see a
cloneyes/clone line in that file? And is that ling gone if you get
an extended setup?

It would be good to see how the monitors.xml file is changing between
your cloned versus extended scenarios for that projector hardware.

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Re: crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 13:13 -0500, Jud Craft wrote:
  Oh, I misunderstood. Yeah, it should remember the previous configuration
  you had with this combination of outputs. This information is stored in
  ~/.config/monitors.xml.
 
 Right.  I guess what I'm saying is...it doesn't seem to.
 
 The very first time I booted my laptop with this (800x600) projector,
 it defaulted to clone mode in session.
 
 I left the room and restarted my laptop.  When I returned, plugging
 the monitor in live resulted in an extended desktop (very cool).
 
 I then restarted my laptop and let it boot fresh with the monitor
 plugged in.  The desktop session started in clone mode again.
 
 I have a completely-different-in-every-way giant widescreen monitor at
 home, so I don't think Display Settings is mixing up the external
 display configurations.

Did you read Bastien's suggestion about the BIOS?

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Re: memset bugs.

2009-11-25 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 01:43:13PM -0500, Dave Jones wrote:
 There's some obvious bugs below in a bunch of packages.
 The 2nd and 3rd arguments to memset calls are the wrong way around.
 I found these after grepping through a make prep'd devel/ tree.
 
 15 hits out of 100G of source code isn't that bad, but we can do better!

glibc headers warn about this (when -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2), so a faster way
would be just grep through all packages' build.log files (preferrably on the
box where they are stored to avoid downloading it all).

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Re: crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 13:13 -0500, Jud Craft wrote:
  Oh, I misunderstood. Yeah, it should remember the previous configuration
  you had with this combination of outputs. This information is stored in
  ~/.config/monitors.xml.
 
 Right.  I guess what I'm saying is...it doesn't seem to.
 
 The very first time I booted my laptop with this (800x600) projector,
 it defaulted to clone mode in session.
 
 I left the room and restarted my laptop.  When I returned, plugging
 the monitor in live resulted in an extended desktop (very cool).
 
 I then restarted my laptop and let it boot fresh with the monitor
 plugged in.  The desktop session started in clone mode again.
 
 I have a completely-different-in-every-way giant widescreen monitor at
 home, so I don't think Display Settings is mixing up the external
 display configurations.


https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572876 might be related.
It has some discussion about ~/.config/monitors.xml.backup.
I don't have a multi-monitor setup at hand over the long weekend, so I
can't investigate further atm.

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Re: crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Jud Craft
Please pardon my answering everyone in one email.



To Adam:  I have not used my BIOS.  The Intel 965 card on my Toshiba
laptop has no BIOS options.  I can't even change the default scaling
from full-panel to off.  It's really sad.

The OS has to do everything in this laptop, since the BIOS doesn't
have an option.  The Windows drivers had a tool that let me set
panel-only, but it only worked after I booted into Windows.  Linux
has no such driver-management tool as far as I know.



To Jeff:  Thank you for replying.  I tried going through my
monitors.xml file, and there is not a single
lt;clonegt;yeslt;/clonegt; line.  Every config (including for the
800x600 projector) sets clone to no.

I tried the projector multiple times in multiple boots last night, so
I don't think this was a monitors.xml, specifically after using
extended mode and rebooting my laptop, and I still got clone mode.



To Matthias:  thanks for the tip, but I don't have a monitors.xml.backup file.

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Re: crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Jud Craft
 lt;clonegt;yeslt;/clonegt; line.  Every config (including for the
 800x600 projector) sets clone to no.

Sorry for the bad escape code.  I meant there are no
cloneyes/clone lines at all.

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Re: crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Jud Craft craft...@gmail.com wrote:
 To Matthias:  thanks for the tip, but I don't have a monitors.xml.backup file.


From reading the bug... I think if you copy monitors.xml to
monitors.xml.backup  I think you'll see a difference.   From the bug
comments it seems monitors.xml isn't being read  but if
montors.xml.backup exists  its always read.   Looks like a real
upstream bug.

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Re: crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 14:28 -0500, Jud Craft wrote:
 Please pardon my answering everyone in one email.
 
 
 
 To Adam:  I have not used my BIOS.  The Intel 965 card on my Toshiba
 laptop has no BIOS options.  I can't even change the default scaling
 from full-panel to off.  It's really sad.

so, um, you didn't read it, then. =) he simply suggested connecting the
external monitor at grub stage rather than having it plugged in at BIOS
stage, to see if that made a difference.

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Re: crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Jud Craft
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
 so, um, you didn't read it, then. =) he simply suggested connecting the
 external monitor at grub stage rather than having it plugged in at BIOS
 stage, to see if that made a difference.

Oh, curses!  Right, sorry about that.  When I go back to school after
thanksgiving I'll try this.

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
 From reading the bug... I think if you copy monitors.xml to
 monitors.xml.backup  I think you'll see a difference.   From the bug
 comments it seems monitors.xml isn't being read  but if
 montors.xml.backup exists  its always read.   Looks like a real
 upstream bug.

I'll try that.  But, that upstream bug looks stalled.  I guess if this
is the problem, it's the end of the line for now.  As I can barely use
GCC, let alone GDB.

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Re: review request - rasmol, Molecular Graphics Visualization Tool

2009-11-25 Thread Carl Byington
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 the short version is that at a minimum you should stick an icon with
 the
 same name as the binary, extension / file format .png,
 in /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps .

That did not work for me, but if I put the converted .png icon in
/usr/share/icons it works nicely.


 ...that sounds like you shouldn't ship a menu entry at all, to me. As
 you say, it would be rather pointless. But I dunno if there's a policy
 requirement that you should anyway.

It turns out to be trivial to have the desktop file launch the program
from within a gnome-terminal

Terminal=true

which does exactly what I want.


Updated spec file at http://www.five-ten-sg.com/rasmol.spec
incorporating many changes from Terje Rosten. Thanks!


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Re: heads-up: Oracle db-4.8.24 in rawhide

2009-11-25 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 14:44 +0100, Jindrich Novy wrote: 
 Hi,
 
 this is a short announce that there is a new db4 in rawhide for a while
 now. Please modify your package accordingly and consider rebuild.

Please *do* rebuild as soon as possible because if something links
against your library which is linked to the old db4 and then also links
to something is linked to the new db4 then its link-order pot-luck which
db4 gets pulled in first and the symbols of the second db4 will be
overridden by the first one, so stuff will simply break. i.e. OOo (until
today) ends up linked to both db4's due to dependencies to will break on
loading a doc from the command line, but not if opened from the menus.

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Re: review request - rasmol, Molecular Graphics Visualization Tool

2009-11-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 12:04 -0800, Carl Byington wrote:
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  the short version is that at a minimum you should stick an icon with
  the
  same name as the binary, extension / file format .png,
  in /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps .
 
 That did not work for me, but if I put the converted .png icon in
 /usr/share/icons it works nicely.

That's the 'old' system and really shouldn't be used. What you probably
missed is the bit I missed from my original email - when using the new
system you need to add these snippets:

%post
touch --no-create %{_datadir}/icons/hicolor /dev/null || :

%postun
if [ $1 -eq 0 ] ; then
touch --no-create %{_datadir}/icons/hicolor /dev/null
gtk-update-icon-cache %{_datadir}/icons/hicolor /dev/null || :
fi

%posttrans
gtk-update-icon-cache %{_datadir}/icons/hicolor /dev/null || :

to the spec. Otherwise the icon cache doesn't get updated so the icon
won't be available.

  ...that sounds like you shouldn't ship a menu entry at all, to me. As
  you say, it would be rather pointless. But I dunno if there's a policy
  requirement that you should anyway.
 
 It turns out to be trivial to have the desktop file launch the program
 from within a gnome-terminal
 
 Terminal=true
 
 which does exactly what I want.

ah, I see. I misunderstood you as suggesting that you need to pipe data
to rasmol at startup to make it useful, obviously that's not the case :)

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Re: memset bugs.

2009-11-25 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 01:58:38PM -0500, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
  On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 01:43:13PM -0500, Dave Jones wrote:
   There's some obvious bugs below in a bunch of packages.
   The 2nd and 3rd arguments to memset calls are the wrong way around.
   I found these after grepping through a make prep'd devel/ tree.
   
   15 hits out of 100G of source code isn't that bad, but we can do better!
  
  glibc headers warn about this (when -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2), so a faster way
  would be just grep through all packages' build.log files (preferrably on the
  box where they are stored to avoid downloading it all).

Can we make it fail the build instead of warning ?
A zero sized memset is always a bug.

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Re: abrt + X Error = zillions of duplicate bug reports?

2009-11-25 Thread Jiri Moskovcak

On 11/25/2009 09:02 AM, Michal Hlavinka wrote:

On Tuesday 24 November 2009 22:49:53 Matěj Cepl wrote:

Dne 24.11.2009 22:37, Adam Williamson napsal(a):

We came up with several possible courses of action. First, we
acknowledge that abrt team is working on improving duplicate detection,
but Matej noted that this is intrinsically hard work and abrt will
likely never be able to eliminate or even come close to eliminating
duplicate reporting.


What's the technical limitation to coming close here?  It seems likely
that there will be some edge cases, but I would think that the majority
of cases aren't all that exceptional, and are fundamentally
straightforward to work out.


Don't ask me, I am just a humble bug triager (putting abrt developer on
CC of this message). What I can say is that even though I can see abrt
devs work hard to eliminate duplicates, they don't succeed much.
Apparently eliminating duplicates of bugs from beasts like Firefox or
OpenOffice is excessively hard.


Afaik, there are several projects with some crash/exception handling on top of
the stack. This makes it more difficult to find out where something actually
crashed. I think solution to this is more plugins/individual configurations.

Something like /etc/abrt/conf.d/package_name.conf

withpackage_name.conf content something like this (of course with better
format ;) :

refuseif()
{
   IF backtrace contains adobe flash THEN RefuseReporting(This crash is caused
by proprietary blob, we can't fix it. Try to contact adobe);
   ELSE IF 

   return OK;
}

cropbacktrace()
{
   removepackagename's crash handler from top of the backtrace
}

And abrt will call these methods if they are defined.

Just my 2 cents



Something like this is planned for the new dupechecker - it will allow 
maintainers or triagers (or anyone) to write simple rules (scripts) to 
detect duplicates based on their experiences. It's not possible for us 
(ABRT team) to know every single program and write the duplicity checker 
for it. Btw, every package maintainer can write his own plugin (it's 
really simple) to analyze the stacktrace and detect dupes in his 
application as the maintainer knows the code better than we do and knows 
what to look for.


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Re: abrt + X Error = zillions of duplicate bug reports?

2009-11-25 Thread Matěj Cepl

Dne 25.11.2009 10:20, Karel Klic napsal(a):

Good idea.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=541442

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Re: review request - rasmol, Molecular Graphics Visualization Tool

2009-11-25 Thread Carl Byington
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On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 12:17 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
 That's the 'old' system and really shouldn't be used. What you
 probably
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 system you need to add these snippets:

Thanks! That works nicely. New spec file at:

http://www.five-ten-sg.com/rasmol.spec

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JBoss in Fedora

2009-11-25 Thread Ricardo Argüello
Is there anybody interested in helping port JPackage's JBoss to Fedora 13:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JBoss

I understand there is an ongoing work to include JBoss AS 5.1 in JPackage.org.
Where can we get this SRPMS to begin porting?

Greetings,

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Re: memset bugs.

2009-11-25 Thread John Reiser

On 11/25/2009 02:03 PM, Dave Jones wrote:

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 01:58:38PM -0500, Jakub Jelinek wrote:



glibc headers warn about this (when -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2), so a faster way
would be just grep through all packages' build.log files (preferrably on 
the
box where they are stored to avoid downloading it all).

Can we make it fail the build instead of warning ?
A zero sized memset is always a bug.


No, memset(,,0) is not always a bug.  A null region is not automatically a bug.
Here is one example:

struct Foo {
long x;
char hole[8 - sizeof(long)];
} foo;

memset(foo.hole, 0, sizeof(foo.hole));

On a LP64-bit machine such as x86_64, this is memset(foo.hole, 0, 0),
which is *NOT* a bug.

Perhaps the best that can be expected is for the compiler to warn
if _builtin_memset has a third argument which is known to be a compile-time
constant zero.  But such a warning must be optional, for there are
legitimate use cases.  Also, if the second argument to _builtin_memset
is a compile-time constant which cannot be represented in one byte
(considering both signed and unsigned cases) then another optional warning
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Re: memset bugs.

2009-11-25 Thread Tom Lane
John Reiser jrei...@bitwagon.com writes:
 On 11/25/2009 02:03 PM, Dave Jones wrote:
 A zero sized memset is always a bug.

 No, memset(,,0) is not always a bug.

I think it's reasonably safe to assume that a *literal constant* zero in
the third argument is a bug.  Whether the header macros can distinguish
that from compile-time-constant expressions is an interesting question,
but if they can, +1 for throwing an error.

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Re: [RFC] unified i386/x86_64 install media.

2009-11-25 Thread Jeroen van Meeuwen
On 11/25/2009 03:39 PM, James Antill wrote:
 On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 13:18 +0100, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
 Also, the way I understand this works, you can just include x86_64
 packages in the one repository...
 
  You can but that will break x86_64, because i386 will need i386
 packages that x86_64 must not have as multilib.

I understand that, I think, but, if you start out saying you're x86_64,
why or how does it ever come to selecting the i?86 version of a package
over the x86_64 version of a package? I'm just assuming YUM takes x86_64
over i?86 any time (best match arch or something), unless specifically
told otherwise?

  As Seth said, you can have one giant directory of packages and just
 different repodata pointing to subsets.

Yeah, I know. Sounds perfectly feasible. Yet $me curious.

  As Jesse said you could also use hardlinks/symlinks in the x86_64 repo.
  Or you could even create three repos. i386, x86_64 and i386-common (not
 that I think that will be better than the other two options).
 

And noarch, and noarch! ;-)

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rpms/perl-DBD-SQLite/devel .cvsignore, 1.8, 1.9 perl-DBD-SQLite.spec, 1.31, 1.32 sources, 1.8, 1.9

2009-11-25 Thread Štěpán Kasal
Author: kasal

Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-DBD-SQLite/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv22469

Modified Files:
.cvsignore perl-DBD-SQLite.spec sources 
Log Message:
new upstream version


Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-DBD-SQLite/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.8
retrieving revision 1.9
diff -u -p -r1.8 -r1.9
--- .cvsignore  29 May 2009 07:40:48 -  1.8
+++ .cvsignore  25 Nov 2009 11:28:27 -  1.9
@@ -1 +1 @@
-DBD-SQLite-1.25.tar.gz
+DBD-SQLite-1.27.tar.gz


Index: perl-DBD-SQLite.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-DBD-SQLite/devel/perl-DBD-SQLite.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.31
retrieving revision 1.32
diff -u -p -r1.31 -r1.32
--- perl-DBD-SQLite.spec12 Sep 2009 04:19:03 -  1.31
+++ perl-DBD-SQLite.spec25 Nov 2009 11:28:27 -  1.32
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-DBD-SQLite
-Version:1.25
-Release:4%{?dist}
+Version:1.27
+Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Self Contained RDBMS in a DBI Driver
 
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -33,7 +33,6 @@ DBD::SQLite includes the entire thing in
 a fast transaction capable RDBMS working for your perl project you simply have
 to install this module, and nothing else.
 
-As of version 1.09 it can use the external SQLite library (= 3.1.3).
 
 %prep
 %setup -q -n DBD-SQLite-%{version}
@@ -46,14 +45,13 @@ make %{?_smp_mflags} OPTIMIZE=$RPM_OPT_
 %install
 rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 make pure_install PERL_INSTALL_ROOT=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT
-find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -type f -name .packlist -exec rm -f {} ';'
-find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -type f -name '*.bs' -a -size 0 -exec rm -f {} ';'
-find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 2/dev/null ';'
+find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -type f \( -name .packlist -o \
+   -name '*.bs' -size 0 \) -exec rm -f {} ';'
+find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -depth -type d -empty -exec rmdir {} ';'
 %{_fixperms} $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/*
 
 
 %check
-# These tests are failing on x86_64, FIXME.
 make test
 
 
@@ -70,6 +68,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 
 
 %changelog
+* Wed Nov 25 2009 Stepan Kasal ska...@redhat.com 1.27-1
+- new upstream version
+
 * Fri Sep 11 2009 Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu - 1.25-4
 - Filtering errant private provides
 


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-DBD-SQLite/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.8
retrieving revision 1.9
diff -u -p -r1.8 -r1.9
--- sources 29 May 2009 07:40:48 -  1.8
+++ sources 25 Nov 2009 11:28:27 -  1.9
@@ -1 +1 @@
-3bc9c8f141cb6c9256ea6dbcddbb9fe7  DBD-SQLite-1.25.tar.gz
+aef159ec069efecdb0929126dbf4  DBD-SQLite-1.27.tar.gz

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[Bug 540864] perl-DBD-SQLite-1.27 is available

2009-11-25 Thread bugzilla
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 Resolution||RAWHIDE




--- Comment #1 from Stepan Kasal ska...@redhat.com  2009-11-25 06:29:28 EDT 
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Done.

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rpms/perl-Class-Adapter/devel .cvsignore, 1.2, 1.3 perl-Class-Adapter.spec, 1.3, 1.4 sources, 1.2, 1.3

2009-11-25 Thread Štěpán Kasal
Author: kasal

Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Class-Adapter/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv24514

Modified Files:
.cvsignore perl-Class-Adapter.spec sources 
Log Message:
- new upstream version


Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Class-Adapter/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.2
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -p -r1.2 -r1.3
--- .cvsignore  4 Nov 2008 07:20:19 -   1.2
+++ .cvsignore  25 Nov 2009 11:39:02 -  1.3
@@ -1 +1 @@
-Class-Adapter-1.05.tar.gz
+Class-Adapter-1.06.tar.gz


Index: perl-Class-Adapter.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Class-Adapter/devel/perl-Class-Adapter.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.3
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -p -r1.3 -r1.4
--- perl-Class-Adapter.spec 26 Jul 2009 04:21:03 -  1.3
+++ perl-Class-Adapter.spec 25 Nov 2009 11:39:03 -  1.4
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Class-Adapter
-Version:1.05
-Release:3%{?dist}
+Version:1.06
+Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Perl implementation of the Adapter Design Pattern
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -30,7 +30,7 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 make pure_install PERL_INSTALL_ROOT=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 
 find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -type f -name .packlist -exec rm -f {} \;
-find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 2/dev/null \;
+find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -depth -type d -empty -exec rmdir {} \;
 
 %{_fixperms} $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/*
 
@@ -47,6 +47,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Wed Nov 25 2009 Stepan Kasal ska...@redhat.com - 1.06-1
+- new upstream version
+
 * Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 1.05-3
 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
 


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Class-Adapter/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.2
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -p -r1.2 -r1.3
--- sources 4 Nov 2008 07:20:24 -   1.2
+++ sources 25 Nov 2009 11:39:03 -  1.3
@@ -1 +1 @@
-39b4b06a30b770ae5a7ee42dccdf143e  Class-Adapter-1.05.tar.gz
+4387100387da4fdc6c4095b03df1d7c3  Class-Adapter-1.06.tar.gz

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[Bug 540862] perl-Class-Adapter-1.06 is available

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 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
 CC||ska...@redhat.com
 AssignedTo|mmasl...@redhat.com |ska...@redhat.com
 Resolution||RAWHIDE




--- Comment #1 from Stepan Kasal ska...@redhat.com  2009-11-25 06:51:28 EDT 
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Done.

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rpms/perl-Perl-Critic/devel perl-Perl-Critic.spec,1.23,1.24

2009-11-25 Thread Štěpán Kasal
Author: kasal

Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Perl-Critic/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv29010

Modified Files:
perl-Perl-Critic.spec 
Log Message:
- use the new filtering macros (verified that the resulting provides
  and requires are the same)
- add version to perl(PPI) require (#541020)


Index: perl-Perl-Critic.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Perl-Critic/devel/perl-Perl-Critic.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.23
retrieving revision 1.24
diff -u -p -r1.23 -r1.24
--- perl-Perl-Critic.spec   7 Oct 2009 17:00:41 -   1.23
+++ perl-Perl-Critic.spec   25 Nov 2009 13:59:21 -  1.24
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Perl-Critic
 Version:1.105
-Release:1%{?dist}
+Release:2%{?dist}
 Summary:Critique Perl source code for best-practices
 
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -17,10 +17,15 @@ BuildRequires:  perl(Config::Tiny) = 2
 BuildRequires:  perl(File::HomeDir)
 BuildRequires:  perl(IO::String)
 BuildRequires:  perl(List::MoreUtils)
+BuildRequires:  perl(String::Format) = 1.13
+
 BuildRequires:  perl(Module::Pluggable) = 3.1
+Requires:   perl(Module::Pluggable) = 3.1
 BuildRequires:  perl(PPI) = 1.205
-BuildRequires:  perl(String::Format) = 1.13
+Requires:   perl(PPI) = 1.205
 BuildRequires:  perl(Perl::Tidy)
+Requires(hint): perl(Perl::Tidy)
+
 BuildRequires:  perl(Test::Memory::Cycle)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Readonly) = 1.03
 BuildRequires:  perl(Exception::Class) = 1.23
@@ -36,9 +41,6 @@ BuildRequires:  perl(Test::Spelling)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Test::Pod)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Test::Pod::Coverage)
 
-Requires:   perl(Module::Pluggable) = 3.1
-Requires(hint): perl(Perl::Tidy)
-
 ### auto-added brs!
 BuildRequires:  perl(strict)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Scalar::Util)
@@ -65,10 +67,8 @@ BuildRequires:  perl(Pod::Select)
 BuildRequires:  perl(English)
 
 # don't provide private Perl libs
-%global _use_internal_dependency_generator 0
-%global __deploop() while read FILE; do /usr/lib/rpm/rpmdeps -%{1} ${FILE}; 
done | /bin/sort -u
-%global __find_provides /bin/sh -c %{__grep} -v '%_docdir' | %{__grep} -v 
'%{perl_vendorarch}/.*\\.so$' | %{__deploop P}
-%global __find_requires /bin/sh -c %{__grep} -v '%_docdir' | %{__deploop R}
+%{?perl_default_filter}
+
 
 %description
 Perl::Critic is an extensible framework for creating and applying coding
@@ -119,6 +119,11 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 
 
 %changelog
+* Wed Nov 25 2009 Stepan Kasal ska...@redhat.com - 1.105-2
+- use the new filtering macros (verified that the resulting provides
+  and requires are the same)
+- add version to perl(PPI) require (#541020)
+
 * Wed Oct  7 2009 Stepan Kasal ska...@redhat.com - 1.105-1
 - new upstream version
 - update build requires

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[Bug 541020] Missing version from dependency on perl-PPI

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--- Comment #1 from Stepan Kasal ska...@redhat.com  2009-11-25 09:00:20 EDT 
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Fixed in perl-Perl-Critic-1.105-2

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[Bug 540340] [patch] Update Finance::Quote to fix ASX quotes

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--- Comment #5 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
2009-11-25 10:33:27 EDT ---
perl-Finance-Quote-1.17-1.fc11 has been pushed to the Fedora 11 testing
repository.  If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug
report.
 If you want to test the update, you can install it with 
 su -c 'yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update perl-Finance-Quote'.  You can
provide feedback for this update here:
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F11/FEDORA-2009-12193

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[Bug 519712] flags argument of $pool-refresh() undocumented

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