Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12
On 11/02/2009 05:23 AM, Liang Suilong wrote: > Thank you for hard work. Crhomium browser in Fedora 12 looks perfect. Is > there any plan to push chromium into rawhide or updates-testing. I think > chromium has enough stability to make more users test itself. Not until Chromium comes out of beta and has a sane release model. Even then, it will be an uphill battle, and I'll probably have to petition FESCo for an exception. Not sure when that will be, but if I had to guess, I'd say it is closer to the F13 timeframe. ~spot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12
To Adam Williamson Thank you for your command. Will RGB Gamma value be set 1.0 in the final release? I think it needs. And playing flashplayer in the web browser with Adobe Flash Player still has some blocks. Maybe flash player cause that problem. I just wait. To Tom 'spot' Callaway Thank you for hard work. Crhomium browser in Fedora 12 looks perfect. Is there any plan to push chromium into rawhide or updates-testing. I think chromium has enough stability to make more users test itself. -- http://www.liangsuilong.info Fight for freedom(3F） Ask not what your Linux distro can do for you! Ask what you can do for your Linux distro! -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12
On 10/29/2009 09:09 AM, Liang Suilong wrote: > And then, Tom 'spot' Callaway has not pushed a new upgrade for chromium > browser. But I do not want to disturbing him. I just wait for him > silently. Haha! There is a reason for the delay: http://spot.livejournal.com/311443.html The good news is that there is a workaround fix now, so as soon as the last package finishes building (I've already done smoke tests on F-11 and F-12), there will be newer chromium packages in the repo. No idea if it fixes your problem or not, Flash is proprietary software, I can't debug it, much less fix it. ~spot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 11:07 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Second Problem: > > > > > > I try to hibernate my desktop. Later I wake them up. The brightness of > > LCD screen is not normal. It is too low. I nearly can not see what is > > it in the screen. I switch to tty console. It is the same with GUI > > environment. My screen is LG L1953T 19" inch flat screen. Is the bug > > related to ATi drivers? > > Try running this command after resuming: > > xgamma -r 1.0 sorry, make that: xgamma -gamma 1.0 -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 21:09 +0800, Liang Suilong wrote: > I found other problems in Fedora 12. I do not know whether they are > related to ATi KMS and opensource dirvers or not. > > > First Problem: > > > Adobe flash player seems to take up too much cpu usage. It makes > machine run slow. If I open too many web page full of flash, no matter > in chromium or in firefox, It is too slow. I almost can not do > anything. Firefox looks a little better than chormium. maybe there is > a bug of chromium , or adobe flash player or ATi's driver. I can not > make sure. I test on another desktop (NVIDIA card). It looks better. > CPU usage is still very high, however, flash player runs enough > smoothly. And then, Tom 'spot' Callaway has not pushed a new upgrade > for chromium browser. But I do not want to disturbing him. I just wait > for him silently. Haha! How's this with the 'nomodeset' parameter? > Second Problem: > > > I try to hibernate my desktop. Later I wake them up. The brightness of > LCD screen is not normal. It is too low. I nearly can not see what is > it in the screen. I switch to tty console. It is the same with GUI > environment. My screen is LG L1953T 19" inch flat screen. Is the bug > related to ATi drivers? Try running this command after resuming: xgamma -r 1.0 does that do the trick? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12
To Adam Williamson I have upgraded the latest packages from Rawhide, including xorg-x11-drv-ati and some components of X. It looks quite good. Glxgears performance grows from about 640 fps to more than 1000 fps. Gnome-terminal is more smooth but not perfect. I found other problems in Fedora 12. I do not know whether they are related to ATi KMS and opensource dirvers or not. First Problem: Adobe flash player seems to take up too much cpu usage. It makes machine run slow. If I open too many web page full of flash, no matter in chromium or in firefox, It is too slow. I almost can not do anything. Firefox looks a little better than chormium. maybe there is a bug of chromium , or adobe flash player or ATi's driver. I can not make sure. I test on another desktop (NVIDIA card). It looks better. CPU usage is still very high, however, flash player runs enough smoothly. And then, Tom 'spot' Callaway has not pushed a new upgrade for chromium browser. But I do not want to disturbing him. I just wait for him silently. Haha! Second Problem: I try to hibernate my desktop. Later I wake them up. The brightness of LCD screen is not normal. It is too low. I nearly can not see what is it in the screen. I switch to tty console. It is the same with GUI environment. My screen is LG L1953T 19" inch flat screen. Is the bug related to ATi drivers? At last, Thanks to developers again. -- http://www.liangsuilong.info Fight for freedom(3F） Ask not what your Linux distro can do for you! Ask what you can do for your Linux distro! -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 02:52:05 you wrote: > On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 09:39 +0200, Jerome Glisse wrote: > > > > I've installed F-12 beta on my new laptop with ati radeon hd 4570 > > > > graphic card, I was going to file new bug. With kms enabled, > > > > everything is really slw, with 'nomodeset' it's much faster. I > > > > can't say exactly "how" slow it is, is there anything I can use for > > > > measuring? > > > > > > cairo-perf-trace is, afaik, the best we have: > > > http://cworth.org/intel/performance_measurement/ > > > > > > I'm not sure if bug reports on this are useful. To some extent, slow > > > performance with KMS on some chips is a known issue. Jerome, do you > > > want bug reports from people who have this problem, or would more > > > reports not provide any new information? > > > > I think we already have bug open for slowness with KMS, r600/r700 is > > missing few pieces. We will work on performance latter, likely not in > > time for F12. We are mostly focusing on fixing bugs which makes GPU > > unusable first. > > Thanks, Jerome. So, Michal H, there's no need to file a bug for this. > Thanks for reporting it, though. I'm using these packages now and it's much better (speed is much better, rendering is (still) not at 100 % ) : kernel, libdrm, mesa from koji xorg-x11-drv-ati with sources updated to radeon's git snapshot feel free to ask if you need some testing, logs, ... Michal -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12
On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 09:39 +0200, Jerome Glisse wrote: > > > I've installed F-12 beta on my new laptop with ati radeon hd 4570 graphic > > > card, I was going to file new bug. With kms enabled, everything is really > > > slw, with 'nomodeset' it's much faster. I can't say exactly "how" > > > slow it > > > is, is there anything I can use for measuring? > > > > cairo-perf-trace is, afaik, the best we have: > > http://cworth.org/intel/performance_measurement/ > > > > I'm not sure if bug reports on this are useful. To some extent, slow > > performance with KMS on some chips is a known issue. Jerome, do you want > > bug reports from people who have this problem, or would more reports not > > provide any new information? > I think we already have bug open for slowness with KMS, r600/r700 is > missing few pieces. We will work on performance latter, likely not in > time for F12. We are mostly focusing on fixing bugs which makes GPU > unusable first. Thanks, Jerome. So, Michal H, there's no need to file a bug for this. Thanks for reporting it, though. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 19:56 +0800, Liang Suilong wrote: > To Adam Williamson > > I try to add kernel parameter nomodeset to turn off KMS. After logging > in Gnome and run gnome-terminal, I can scroll up and down my mouse so > smoothly. I do not feel scrolling in the terminal is slow. Thanks for testing. See my reply to Michal for the next steps: I'm checking with Jerome Glisse whether it's necessary for you to file a bug report in this case. > We can sure that KMS for R600 cause the problem. But KMS in the > mainline kernel is experimental. I believe that the bug will be fixed. > Thanks to Fedora developers, I can enjoy compiz with opensource > drivers. Yes, this is something the developers are working on for sure. > Another things, xorg-x11-drv-ati with mesa-dri-drivers-experimental > seems not to ru gnome-shell. Does it mean that ATi opensource need > more OpenGL extensions to stand for gnome-shell? Well, on my test system it runs, but doesn't really work: there's a known bug which stops any input to gnome-shell working (so basically you can't _do_ anything with it, trying to click on any gnome-shell element doesn't work). As I said, this is a known bug in the Mesa stuff which should get fixed at some point. I imagine any other problem you're seeing with gnome-shell is similar in nature. As mentioned, this code is known to be pretty alpha :) > Plymouth is so beautiful and smooth when I start up my Fedora 12, > nevertheless, it does not work when I shutdown or reboot my box. I > just can see a black screen or console status. How can I make plymouth > run again? This could be related to disabling KMS, I suppose, but I don't know any more than that I'm afraid. > ATi should learn Intel how to develop opensource drivers for their > graphic card. The relationship between ati and radeonhd should be > cooperation not competition. This is just my opinon. That's not quite the situation. The 'ati' driver is not written entirely by ATI/AMD, it is a proper communally-developed driver to which our Red Hat staff and others contribute significantly, based on information and specifications provided by ATI/AMD. 'radeonhd' is essentially a competing driver. The history is that the radeonhd driver came out before the ati/radeon driver (technically the driver in question is called 'radeon', the "driver" called 'ati' is really just a wrapper which loads either 'radeon', 'r128' or 'mach64' depending on the hardware that's detected) gained any support for r500+ chips at all. (Actually, a driver called 'avivo' came before either of those, but never mind that). After a while, the 'radeon' driver added support for r500+ chips, so there are now two different open source drivers, both officially part of the X.org project, which support r500+ devices. 'radeonhd' is supported by Novell and gets contributions from Novell's paid developers, 'radeon' is more supported by Red Hat. Obviously this isn't sustainable and eventually the two will merge somehow, but for now there's two drivers, and Fedora supports 'radeon'. 'radeonhd' is really only available from the Fedora repositories for research purposes. The fact that there are two open source drivers is not the fault of ATI/AMD in any way, they shouldn't take any blame for it. They have in fact been moving in a very good direction lately, and their relationship with the X development community is pretty much as good as Intel's now. Neither 'radeon' nor 'radeonhd' would have developed to the point they have without the help and support of ATI/AMD. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 09:17 +0200, Michal Hlavinka wrote: > > For the slow 2D performance - _how_ slow is it, really? gnome-terminal > > has never been much of a speed demon. Does it get any faster if you boot > > with 'nomodeset' as a kernel parameter? > > > > Hi, > I've installed F-12 beta on my new laptop with ati radeon hd 4570 graphic > card, I was going to file new bug. With kms enabled, everything is really > slw, with 'nomodeset' it's much faster. I can't say exactly "how" slow it > is, is there anything I can use for measuring? cairo-perf-trace is, afaik, the best we have: http://cworth.org/intel/performance_measurement/ I'm not sure if bug reports on this are useful. To some extent, slow performance with KMS on some chips is a known issue. Jerome, do you want bug reports from people who have this problem, or would more reports not provide any new information? > btw, mesa-dri-drivers-experimental does not work at all for me (glx apps > segfault) Your card's r700, not r600, so that's kind of expected; the current code isn't expected to work well on r700 (possibly not at all, I'm not 100% clear). r700 and r800 support should follow r600 relatively quickly, though. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12
On 10/22/2009 01:56 PM, Liang Suilong wrote: I try to add kernel parameter nomodeset to turn off KMS. After logging in Gnome and run gnome-terminal, I can scroll up and down my mouse so smoothly. I do not feel scrolling in the terminal is slow. I noticed that performance with KMS is more affected than non-KMS by the debugging options which are enabled in Rawhide kernel. The final release will have most of them disabled, so there's a chance the performance with KMS will improve. You could try rebuilding the kernel without debugging to confirm it. Michal -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12
Hi, I've installed F-12 beta on my new laptop with ati radeon hd 4570 graphic card, I was going to file new bug. With kms enabled, everything is really slw, with 'nomodeset' it's much faster. I can't say exactly "how" slow it is, is there anything I can use for measuring? Michal btw, mesa-dri-drivers-experimental does not work at all for me (glx apps segfault) To Michal Hlavinka, Hi, in Fedora 12, KMS for R600/R700 is an experimental features. The next mainline kernel, 2.6.32 will official support KMS of R600/R700. Xorg still does not release opensource drivers for R600/R700 to run 3D program. Mesa-dri-drivers-experimental is just a testing package. It can run compiz. But compiz is easy to crash with this dri-drivers. Believe that, Fedora developers still work hard for opensource ati driver. Please wait a moment. 3D acceleration is coming soon. -- http://www.liangsuilong.info Fight for freedom(3F） Ask not what your Linux distro can do for you! Ask what you can do for your Linux distro! -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12
To Adam Williamson I try to add kernel parameter nomodeset to turn off KMS. After logging in Gnome and run gnome-terminal, I can scroll up and down my mouse so smoothly. I do not feel scrolling in the terminal is slow. Before doing that, I installed Fedora 12 Beta and upgrade to the latest packages in VirtualBox 3.0.8. The situation is the same with the host which is turned off KMS. We can sure that KMS for R600 cause the problem. But KMS in the mainline kernel is experimental. I believe that the bug will be fixed. Thanks to Fedora developers, I can enjoy compiz with opensource drivers. Another things, xorg-x11-drv-ati with mesa-dri-drivers-experimental seems not to ru gnome-shell. Does it mean that ATi opensource need more OpenGL extensions to stand for gnome-shell? Plymouth is so beautiful and smooth when I start up my Fedora 12, nevertheless, it does not work when I shutdown or reboot my box. I just can see a black screen or console status. How can I make plymouth run again? ATi should learn Intel how to develop opensource drivers for their graphic card. The relationship between ati and radeonhd should be cooperation not competition. This is just my opinon. -- http://www.liangsuilong.info Fight for freedom(3F） Ask not what your Linux distro can do for you! Ask what you can do for your Linux distro! -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12
On Wednesday 21 October 2009 23:27:31 Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 15:16 +0800, Liang Suilong wrote: > > Today I upgrade my Fedora to Fedora 12 Beta, It looks very well. But I > > found ATi display driver does not run well. > > > > > > My display card is Sapphire HD3650 with 256MB GDDR3 VRAM (RV635). I > > choose OSS driver for my card. Glxgears runs so smoothly with > > xorg-x11-drv-ati because of KMS by default, nevertheless, rolling up > > and down in the gnome-terminal is quite slow. The performance of > > glxgears is about 210 frams per second. In addition, Switching to > > another window in Fedora 12 Beta is not as fast in Fedora 11. Later, I > > install xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd and set it by default in the > > system-config-display. Then I restart the X. I can not log into gnome. > > The screen turns white. I found xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd is too old, The > > version is 1.2.5 in the rawhide and the latest version 1.3.0 has been > > released for a long time. Now I turn back to xorg-x11-drv-ati. At > > last, I do not know which packages causes the problem, maybe > > xorg-x11-drv-ati, maybe xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd, maybe Mesa. So I > > suggest that packager updates some packge related to ATi R600/R700 > > display card. > > Fedora doesn't really care about the radeonhd driver. We may well even > remove it at some point soon. The ati driver is the one you should use > on Fedora, that's why it's the default. > > You do not get 3D acceleration out of the box on that card, r600 3D > acceleration is too early to be enabled by default. If you want to try > it out, install the mesa-dri-drivers-experimental package. > > For the slow 2D performance - _how_ slow is it, really? gnome-terminal > has never been much of a speed demon. Does it get any faster if you boot > with 'nomodeset' as a kernel parameter? > Hi, I've installed F-12 beta on my new laptop with ati radeon hd 4570 graphic card, I was going to file new bug. With kms enabled, everything is really slw, with 'nomodeset' it's much faster. I can't say exactly "how" slow it is, is there anything I can use for measuring? Michal btw, mesa-dri-drivers-experimental does not work at all for me (glx apps segfault) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 08:36 +0800, Liang Suilong wrote: > Oh..So I need to remove radeonhd driver in my box. RadeonHD seems to > be one part of xorg-x11-drv-ati. They provides the same things to ati > users. But radeonhd only stand for R500/R600 later. radeonhd is not part of ati, they are effectively in competition. They're two different drivers for the same hardware. ati is the one that Fedora supports. > Yes, When rolling up and down in the gnome-terminal. I move up my > mouse but the scroll bar still stay at there for about 0.5 seconds to > 1 seconds. You can feel delay obviously. But I do not try to disable > KMS. Let me try it and report the problem to here. Thanks, please let us know how it goes. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12
To Tomasz, Thank you! I have enabled compiz with ati oss drivers. To Adam Williamson Oh..So I need to remove radeonhd driver in my box. RadeonHD seems to be one part of xorg-x11-drv-ati. They provides the same things to ati users. But radeonhd only stand for R500/R600 later. Yes, When rolling up and down in the gnome-terminal. I move up my mouse but the scroll bar still stay at there for about 0.5 seconds to 1 seconds. You can feel delay obviously. But I do not try to disable KMS. Let me try it and report the problem to here. -- http://www.liangsuilong.info Fight for freedom(3F） Ask not what your Linux distro can do for you! Ask what you can do for your Linux distro! -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12
On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 15:16 +0800, Liang Suilong wrote: > Today I upgrade my Fedora to Fedora 12 Beta, It looks very well. But I > found ATi display driver does not run well. > > > My display card is Sapphire HD3650 with 256MB GDDR3 VRAM (RV635). I > choose OSS driver for my card. Glxgears runs so smoothly with > xorg-x11-drv-ati because of KMS by default, nevertheless, rolling up > and down in the gnome-terminal is quite slow. The performance of > glxgears is about 210 frams per second. In addition, Switching to > another window in Fedora 12 Beta is not as fast in Fedora 11. Later, I > install xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd and set it by default in the > system-config-display. Then I restart the X. I can not log into gnome. > The screen turns white. I found xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd is too old, The > version is 1.2.5 in the rawhide and the latest version 1.3.0 has been > released for a long time. Now I turn back to xorg-x11-drv-ati. At > last, I do not know which packages causes the problem, maybe > xorg-x11-drv-ati, maybe xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd, maybe Mesa. So I > suggest that packager updates some packge related to ATi R600/R700 > display card. Fedora doesn't really care about the radeonhd driver. We may well even remove it at some point soon. The ati driver is the one you should use on Fedora, that's why it's the default. You do not get 3D acceleration out of the box on that card, r600 3D acceleration is too early to be enabled by default. If you want to try it out, install the mesa-dri-drivers-experimental package. For the slow 2D performance - _how_ slow is it, really? gnome-terminal has never been much of a speed demon. Does it get any faster if you boot with 'nomodeset' as a kernel parameter? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 03:16:21PM +0800, Liang Suilong wrote: > Another question, Will Fedora 12 provide Opensource 3D acceleration driver > for R600/R700? From F12 beta announcment: * Graphics support improvements - Fedora 12 introduces experimental 3D support for AMD Radeon HD 2400 and later graphics cards. To try it out, install the mesa-dri-drivers-experimental package. -- Tomasz Torcz Morality must always be based on practicality. xmpp: zdzich...@chrome.pl-- Baron Vladimir Harkonnen -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12
Today I upgrade my Fedora to Fedora 12 Beta, It looks very well. But I found ATi display driver does not run well. My display card is Sapphire HD3650 with 256MB GDDR3 VRAM (RV635). I choose OSS driver for my card. Glxgears runs so smoothly with xorg-x11-drv-ati because of KMS by default, nevertheless, rolling up and down in the gnome-terminal is quite slow. The performance of glxgears is about 210 frams per second. In addition, Switching to another window in Fedora 12 Beta is not as fast in Fedora 11. Later, I install xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd and set it by default in the system-config-display. Then I restart the X. I can not log into gnome. The screen turns white. I found xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd is too old, The version is 1.2.5 in the rawhide and the latest version 1.3.0 has been released for a long time. Now I turn back to xorg-x11-drv-ati. At last, I do not know which packages causes the problem, maybe xorg-x11-drv-ati, maybe xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd, maybe Mesa. So I suggest that packager updates some packge related to ATi R600/R700 display card. My Fedora 12 box is Athlon X2 4200+ and 2GB RAM, a 250GB HDD only for Fedora, a mainborad with MCP55SLI and a Sapphire HD3650. Another question, Will Fedora 12 provide Opensource 3D acceleration driver for R600/R700? -- http://www.liangsuilong.info Fight for freedom(3F） Ask not what your Linux distro can do for you! Ask what you can do for your Linux distro! -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
