Re: Kernel 2.6.29 for F10

2009-08-19 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 14:16 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote:

 Dave,
 
 Is this an offer to try and help me get the f12 kernel to boot on my
 system so that I can test it for you? ;-]
 
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513528
 
 
 Rodd
 

I'd just like to thank Kyle McMartin for giving me a little help with
this (maybe with a little prompting from Dave???)

I can now boot rawhide so I can now help with testing.

thanks


Rodd

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Re: Kernel 2.6.29 for F10

2009-08-19 Thread Reindl Harald

This would be ok if you never pushed it to updates-testing
But if you do that it's logical for test-users that they can start testing and 
not getting
2.6.27 after that - Push it to updatestesting is like go on and after that 
step there
should be no package-conflicts if they were

THANK YOU for 2.6.29.6-97 today to help to solve my problems which are nearly 
killing me
because i have no time and energy for downgrades 4 days before my healthy 
issues (medical
operation) especially after working the last weeks day and night nearly to 
burn-out with
other things which had to be done before

 On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:13:10AM -0500, Joe Nall wrote:

 One of the reasons we haven't pushed them as proper updates is that
 getting the regressions fixed is pretty time consuming, and the limited
 X/KMS manpower we have is better focused on making the F12 stuff work right,
 and getting it upstream.



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Kernel 2.6.29 for F10

2009-08-18 Thread Reindl Harald

Hi

Is there a reason that since longer time 2.6.29-Kernels for Fedora 10 landing in
Updates-testing followed with 2.6.27-Builds in the meantime?

On machines with kmods this is a real problem because yum detetects the kmod for
2.6.27-Build and wants to install the 2.6.27 kernel which conflicts with the 
installed one

I use the 2.6.29 since months in the meantime, F11 has it since the release and 
i do not
realize why F10 does not get him

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Re: Kernel 2.6.29 for F10

2009-08-18 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Reindl Harald wrote:
 Hi
 
 Is there a reason that since longer time 2.6.29-Kernels for Fedora 10 landing 
 in
 Updates-testing followed with 2.6.27-Builds in the meantime?
 
 On machines with kmods this is a real problem because yum detetects the kmod 
 for
 2.6.27-Build and wants to install the 2.6.27 kernel which conflicts with the 
 installed one
 
 I use the 2.6.29 since months in the meantime, F11 has it since the release 
 and i do not
 realize why F10 does not get him

I've been personally using 2.6.29.4-75 successfully for a while (uptime 
currently is 32 days),
so I join you in asking why there are no recent kernels for f10.

On this route, why no 2.6.30? There is a driver I need which is included in = 
2.6.30.

These days upstream 2.6.31 is almost released... BTW

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Re: Kernel 2.6.29 for F10

2009-08-18 Thread Joe Nall


On Aug 18, 2009, at 5:16 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:



Hi

Is there a reason that since longer time 2.6.29-Kernels for Fedora  
10 landing in

Updates-testing followed with 2.6.27-Builds in the meantime?

On machines with kmods this is a real problem because yum detetects  
the kmod for
2.6.27-Build and wants to install the 2.6.27 kernel which conflicts  
with the installed one


I use the 2.6.29 since months in the meantime, F11 has it since the  
release and i do not

realize why F10 does not get him


I tried to ask this on the fedora kernel list and the moderator never  
approved the message. I too would like to see F10 move up to 2.6.29+  
prior to end-of-life.


joe


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Re: Kernel 2.6.29 for F10

2009-08-18 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:13:10AM -0500, Joe Nall wrote:
  
  On Aug 18, 2009, at 5:16 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
  
  
   Hi
  
   Is there a reason that since longer time 2.6.29-Kernels for Fedora  
   10 landing in
   Updates-testing followed with 2.6.27-Builds in the meantime?
  
   On machines with kmods this is a real problem because yum detetects  
   the kmod for
   2.6.27-Build and wants to install the 2.6.27 kernel which conflicts  
   with the installed one
  
   I use the 2.6.29 since months in the meantime, F11 has it since the  
   release and i do not
   realize why F10 does not get him
  
  I tried to ask this on the fedora kernel list and the moderator never  
  approved the message.

Odd, I don't recall seeing it, and there's no non-spam messages in
the queue right now.

  I too would like to see F10 move up to 2.6.29+  
  prior to end-of-life.

In days of old, we were able to get rebases out pretty quickly after
their upstream release.  These days, we're hindered by the kernel modesetting
stuff we're carrying.  It's closely tied to the userspace X drivers,
and isn't easy to retrofit to a different kernel.
One of the reasons we haven't pushed them as proper updates is that
getting the regressions fixed is pretty time consuming, and the limited
X/KMS manpower we have is better focused on making the F12 stuff work right,
and getting it upstream.

I really can't wait for the day that it all gets upstream, and we can
get back to the old routine of rebasing.  Until then, we're kinda stuck.

Dave

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Re: Kernel 2.6.29 for F10

2009-08-18 Thread Rodd Clarkson

   I too would like to see F10 move up to 2.6.29+  
   prior to end-of-life.
 
 In days of old, we were able to get rebases out pretty quickly after
 their upstream release.  These days, we're hindered by the kernel modesetting
 stuff we're carrying.  It's closely tied to the userspace X drivers,
 and isn't easy to retrofit to a different kernel.
 One of the reasons we haven't pushed them as proper updates is that
 getting the regressions fixed is pretty time consuming, and the limited
 X/KMS manpower we have is better focused on making the F12 stuff work right,
 and getting it upstream.

Dave,

Is this an offer to try and help me get the f12 kernel to boot on my
system so that I can test it for you? ;-]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513528


Rodd

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