Re: Looking for testers: RPM 4.8 pre-release snapshots available

2009-11-30 Thread Peter Jones
On 11/27/2009 03:05 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote:

 For an idea what to expect, see the draft release notes at
 http://rpm.org/wiki/Releases/4.8.0

I notice that explicit ordering syntax that doesn't trigger a strict
requires isn't on this list.  It's really something we need sooner rather
than later, and it's been requested by many people for quite some time now.

What needs to be done to get this prioritized?  There is a mounting set of
features we're implementing parts of very poorly because of the lack of this
functionality.

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Looking for testers: RPM 4.8 pre-release snapshots available

2009-11-27 Thread Panu Matilainen


It's that time of year again... we're planning on getting a brand new RPM 
version into Fedora 13. While the feature submission is being processed 
and public beta being prepared, we'd like to get some extra testing of the 
new RPM to catch out any remaining wrinkles our own testing hasn't caught.


So this is a call for brave testers who eat rawhide for breakfast, to try 
out pre-release snapshot(s) of the oncoming RPM release. This is not 
supposed to eat your system alive or anything - I've used snapshots from 
rpm.org HEAD on my systems througout the development process without 
problems but you never know... so proceed with appropriate caution.


For an idea what to expect, see the draft release notes at
http://rpm.org/wiki/Releases/4.8.0

You can find Fedora compatible snapshots of the day source rpms from 
http://laiskiainen.org/rpm/srpms/ (use the latest you can find). These 
should be buildable on and compatible with F11, 12 and rawhide.


Please report any oddities found, preferably to rpm.org Trac
at http://rpm.org/newticket but mail will do too.

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Re: Looking for testers: RPM 4.8 pre-release snapshots available

2009-11-27 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 10:05 +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote:
 For an idea what to expect, see the draft release notes at
 http://rpm.org/wiki/Releases/4.8.0

Ordered package erasures, excellent.

C.

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Re: Looking for testers: RPM 4.8 pre-release snapshots available

2009-11-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:05:10AM +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote:
 So this is a call for brave testers who eat rawhide for breakfast, to try 
 out pre-release snapshot(s) of the oncoming RPM release. This is not 

I'm in. :)


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Re: Looking for testers: RPM 4.8 pre-release snapshots available

2009-11-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:11:37AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
  So this is a call for brave testers who eat rawhide for breakfast, to try 
  out pre-release snapshot(s) of the oncoming RPM release. This is not 
 I'm in. :)

file /usr/lib/rpm/ocaml-find-provides.sh from install of
rpm-build-4.7.90-0.git9625.lorg.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
ocaml-runtime-3.11.1-6.fc13.x86_64
file /usr/lib/rpm/ocaml-find-requires.sh from install of
rpm-build-4.7.90-0.git9625.lorg.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
ocaml-runtime-3.11.1-6.fc13.x86_64


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Re: Looking for testers: RPM 4.8 pre-release snapshots available

2009-11-27 Thread Panu Matilainen

On Fri, 27 Nov 2009, Matthew Miller wrote:


On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:11:37AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:

So this is a call for brave testers who eat rawhide for breakfast, to try
out pre-release snapshot(s) of the oncoming RPM release. This is not

I'm in. :)


file /usr/lib/rpm/ocaml-find-provides.sh from install of
rpm-build-4.7.90-0.git9625.lorg.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
ocaml-runtime-3.11.1-6.fc13.x86_64
file /usr/lib/rpm/ocaml-find-requires.sh from install of
rpm-build-4.7.90-0.git9625.lorg.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
ocaml-runtime-3.11.1-6.fc13.x86_64


Yup, sorry I forgot to mention this: as the OCaml dependency generation 
has gotten integrated into rpm now, it conflicts with current 
ocaml-runtime. Obviously the scripts can't be removed from ocaml-runtime 
until the new rpm is in rawhide, but removing them from rpm isn't good 
either as you couldn't test the new thing...


So for now:
a) if you dont need it, remove ocaml-runtime
b) if you do, install with --replacefiles

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Re: Looking for testers: RPM 4.8 pre-release snapshots available

2009-11-27 Thread John Poelstra

Panu Matilainen said the following on 11/27/2009 12:05 AM Pacific Time:


It's that time of year again... we're planning on getting a brand new 
RPM version into Fedora 13. While the feature submission is being 
processed and public beta being prepared, we'd like to get some extra 
testing of the new RPM to catch out any remaining wrinkles our own 
testing hasn't caught.


Excellent.  Just to make sure... we hope you are targeting those changes 
for the Fedora 13 feature freeze deadline which feeds into the ALPHA :)


2010-01-26

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/13/Schedule

NOTE: the Fedora 13 schedule is not final yet, but we do not expect 
the feature freeze deadline to be any earlier.


John

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Re: Looking for testers: RPM 4.8 pre-release snapshots available

2009-11-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 09:41:17 -0800,
  John Poelstra poels...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/13/Schedule

Is there a calendar page for that that sunbird can use?
I remember running across one for F12, but I don't remember where I found it.

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Re: Looking for testers: RPM 4.8 pre-release snapshots available

2009-11-27 Thread John Poelstra

Bruno Wolff III said the following on 11/27/2009 11:59 AM Pacific Time:

On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 09:41:17 -0800,
  John Poelstra poels...@redhat.com wrote:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/13/Schedule


Is there a calendar page for that that sunbird can use?
I remember running across one for F12, but I don't remember where I found it.


Once the schedule has been finalized I will create iCal (*.ics) files 
with TaskJuggler and they'll be in the schedule directory:

http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13/

like they were for Fedora 12: 
http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/


John

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Re: Looking for testers: RPM 4.8 pre-release snapshots available

2009-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/28/2009 03:14 AM, John Poelstra wrote:
 Bruno Wolff III said the following on 11/27/2009 11:59 AM Pacific Time:
 On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 09:41:17 -0800,
   John Poelstra poels...@redhat.com wrote:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/13/Schedule

 Is there a calendar page for that that sunbird can use?
 I remember running across one for F12, but I don't remember where I
 found it.
 
 Once the schedule has been finalized I will create iCal (*.ics) files
 with TaskJuggler and they'll be in the schedule directory:
 http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13/
 
 like they were for Fedora 12:
 http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/

Please do link to them from the schedule wiki page when they are available.

Rahul

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