Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 03:07:19PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Jindrich Novy wrote: Nope, it is intentional. It is needed to somehow distinguish the noarch and arch-dependent part. So package texlive-csplain contains the noarch bits and texlive-csplain.ARCH ships the binaries. Wouldn't texlive-csplain-libs or texlive-csplain-bin be more compliant to our guidelines? The .ARCH postfix is actually derived from the TL metadata dependencies but indeed it doesn't look so good. The '-libs' is not appropriate as only binaries which go to /usr/bin are packaged. I will switch to the '-bin' postfix in the next build. Jindrich Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- Jindrich Novy jn...@redhat.com http://people.redhat.com/jnovy/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 04:21:35PM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 17:10 +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote: On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 04:48:49PM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote: It seems your spec making program has some bugs, as some packages have names such as texlive-csplain.ARCH, this probably shouldn't be..? Nope, it is intentional. It is needed to somehow distinguish the noarch and arch-dependent part. So package texlive-csplain contains the noarch bits and texlive-csplain.ARCH ships the binaries. Wouldn't it be better to have texlive-csplain%{_isa} shipping the arch dependent bits and a texlive-csplain-common.noarch shipping the arch independent stuff? That would be more in line with other packages. Hmm, this is even better idea. It was not originally possible in the first designed TL packaging scheme (noarch and binary bits were created from one src.rpm what prevented arch/noarch package named in the same way) but now it is actually possible because binaries are built separately. Thanks, Jindrich -- Jussi Lehtola Fedora Project Contributor jussileht...@fedoraproject.org -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- Jindrich Novy jn...@redhat.com http://people.redhat.com/jnovy/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
Jindrich Novy wrote: The .ARCH postfix is actually derived from the TL metadata dependencies but indeed it doesn't look so good. The '-libs' is not appropriate as only binaries which go to /usr/bin are packaged. I will switch to the '-bin' postfix in the next build. Right, -bin seems to make most sense in this case. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
Jindrich Novy wrote: Nope, it is intentional. It is needed to somehow distinguish the noarch and arch-dependent part. So package texlive-csplain contains the noarch bits and texlive-csplain.ARCH ships the binaries. Wouldn't texlive-csplain-libs or texlive-csplain-bin be more compliant to our guidelines? Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 17:10 +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote: On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 04:48:49PM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote: It seems your spec making program has some bugs, as some packages have names such as texlive-csplain.ARCH, this probably shouldn't be..? Nope, it is intentional. It is needed to somehow distinguish the noarch and arch-dependent part. So package texlive-csplain contains the noarch bits and texlive-csplain.ARCH ships the binaries. Wouldn't it be better to have texlive-csplain%{_isa} shipping the arch dependent bits and a texlive-csplain-common.noarch shipping the arch independent stuff? That would be more in line with other packages. -- Jussi Lehtola Fedora Project Contributor jussileht...@fedoraproject.org -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
Hi, TeX Live 2009 pretest is now available via external repository for testing in Fedora: rpm -Uhv http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/texlive-release-2009-0.1.fc11.noarch.rpm Maybe a good idea is to start directly with TeX Live 2009 in Fedora because TL 2008 has different package set and TL 2009 contains newest packages and will likely be released this year. And before that we can help with testing :) My current effort is aimed to font packaging so that the fonts are available to non-TeX Live users as well. For more information: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive Jindrich -- Jindrich Novy jn...@redhat.com http://people.redhat.com/jnovy/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 14:44 +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote: Hi, TeX Live 2009 pretest is now available via external repository for testing in Fedora: rpm -Uhv http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/texlive-release-2009-0.1.fc11.noarch.rpm Maybe a good idea is to start directly with TeX Live 2009 in Fedora because TL 2008 has different package set and TL 2009 contains newest packages and will likely be released this year. And before that we can help with testing :) My current effort is aimed to font packaging so that the fonts are available to non-TeX Live users as well. For more information: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive Thank you so much for your effort :) Doing yum update texlive\* resulted in dep. problems with (x)dvipdfmx, dvipng (requires libkpathsea.so.4) -- you're probably missing obsoletes in texlive-dvipdfmx and texlive-dvipng. After I removed them (along with xetex, which I tried once, but went back to just tex), the update progressed smoothly, haven't tried runtime yet (though, seeing that your repo has 5000+ packages and the yum updated installed/updated only 85, I suspect I'll be missing some fonts I use). Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 14:44 +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote: Hi, TeX Live 2009 pretest is now available via external repository for testing in Fedora: rpm -Uhv http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/texlive-release-2009-0.1.fc11.noarch.rpm Maybe a good idea is to start directly with TeX Live 2009 in Fedora because TL 2008 has different package set and TL 2009 contains newest packages and will likely be released this year. And before that we can help with testing :) My current effort is aimed to font packaging so that the fonts are available to non-TeX Live users as well. It seems your spec making program has some bugs, as some packages have names such as texlive-csplain.ARCH, this probably shouldn't be..? When I try to install texlive-scheme-full on F11 x86_64 I get a bunch of errors due to missing packages: -- Missing Dependency: texlive-findhyph is needed by package texlive-collection-binextra-2009-14758.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-germkorr is needed by package texlive-collection-langgerman-2009-14751.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-spverbatim is needed by package texlive-collection-latexextra-2009-14750.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-fig4latex is needed by package texlive-collection-pictures-2009-14752.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-findhyph is needed by package texlive-collection-binextra-2009-14758.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-titlepic is needed by package texlive-collection-latexextra-2009-14750.fc11.noarch (texlive) -- Jussi Lehtola Fedora Project Contributor jussileht...@fedoraproject.org -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 15:40 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: progressed smoothly, haven't tried runtime yet (though, seeing that your So, just noticed I needed to install texlive-csplain in order to have it, but it does not work: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (Web2C 2009) restricted \write18 enabled. ---! /usr/share/texlive/texmf-var/web2c/pdftex/csplain.fmt doesn't match pdftex.pool (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied) How can I fix it? Further, I noticed in csplain.log that it loads the document with ISO-8859-2 coding, is there a way to switch it to UTF-8? texconfig does not seem to work anymore for format installing/changing :( Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
Jindrich Novy píše v Čt 20. 08. 2009 v 14:44 +0200: Hi, TeX Live 2009 pretest is now available via external repository for testing in Fedora: rpm -Uhv http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/texlive-release-2009-0.1.fc11.noarch.rpm Maybe a good idea is to start directly with TeX Live 2009 in Fedora because TL 2008 has different package set and TL 2009 contains newest packages and will likely be released this year. And before that we can help with testing :) My current effort is aimed to font packaging so that the fonts are available to non-TeX Live users as well. For more information: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive Thanks one question: in F11 is csindex program missing. I've read somewhere there was problem in missing autoconf for it. What about new TeX Live? Is it there now? Can I help if csindex is still missing? Pavel -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
2009/8/20 Jindrich Novy jn...@redhat.com: rpm -Uhv http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/texlive-release-2009-0.1.fc11.noarch.rpm Maybe a good idea is to start directly with TeX Live 2009 in Fedora because TL 2008 has different package set and TL 2009 contains newest packages and will likely be released this year. And before that we can help with testing :) What's up with xetex? The package is named texlive-xetex.ARCH, and it seems to depend on a package called texlive-xetex which isn't provided in the new repository, and therefore pulls in the whole old version of texlive from the core repository again ... MEF -- Mary Ellen Foster -- http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ ICCS, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
2009/8/20 Jindrich Novy jn...@redhat.com: Thanks for noticing. I've tested only upgrade from texlive-2007 installation with no dvipdfmx installed. I'll fix it in the next repo update. Another related upgrade issue: texlive-psutils doesn't obsolete psutils ... (is there a better place to note this sort of thing?) MEF -- Mary Ellen Foster -- http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ ICCS, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
Once upon a time, Mary Ellen Foster mefos...@gmail.com said: Another related upgrade issue: texlive-psutils doesn't obsolete psutils ... (is there a better place to note this sort of thing?) Why would texlive replace a stand-alone package (that has been around forever as a stand-alone package)? -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
2009/8/20 Mary Ellen Foster mefos...@gmail.com: What's up with xetex? The package is named texlive-xetex.ARCH, and it seems to depend on a package called texlive-xetex which isn't provided in the new repository, and therefore pulls in the whole old version of texlive from the core repository again ... Sorry, never mind -- looks like it has an unversioned dependency or something, texlive-xetex is in the new repo and once I excluded the old repos it worked again. (Should obsolete teckit though ...) MEF -- Mary Ellen Foster -- http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ ICCS, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
2009/8/20 Jindrich Novy jn...@redhat.com: Maybe a good idea is to start directly with TeX Live 2009 in Fedora because TL 2008 has different package set and TL 2009 contains newest packages and will likely be released this year. And before that we can help with testing :) One more issue: some packages (like R, for example) still depend on tetex-latex, which I guess used to be a virtual provide of texlive but is now gone. What's the plan for dealing with this? Here's the full list of things that require tetex-latex according to repoquery: a2ps-0:4.14-8.fc11.x86_64 asymptote-0:1.70-1.fc11.x86_64 fig2ps-0:1.3.6-4.fc11.noarch hevea-0:1.10-3.fc11.x86_64 HippoDraw-0:1.21.1-9.fc11.x86_64 ipe-0:6.0-0.29.pre30.fc11.x86_64 jadetex-0:3.13-5.fc11.noarch mediawiki-math-0:1.14.0-45.fc11.x86_64 pdfjam-0:1.21-1.fc11.noarch pyscript-0:0.6.1-4.fc11.noarch R-devel-0:2.9.0-2.fc11.x86_64 tetex-bytefield-0:1.2a-5.fc11.noarch tetex-dvipost-0:1.1-10.fc11.x86_64 tetex-elsevier-0:0.1.20071024-2.fc11.noarch tetex-IEEEtran-0:1.7.1-2.fc11.noarch tetex-perltex-0:1.7-2.fc11.noarch tetex-prosper-0:1.5-5.fc11.noarch texmaker-1:1.8-2.fc11.x86_64 MEF -- Mary Ellen Foster -- http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ ICCS, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 16:29 +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote: On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 03:53:06PM +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: Please be sure you remove all the old formats generated with the old TeX Live. In most cases clearing the /var/lib/texmf/ and ~/.texlive* contents should make it work. Thanks, didn't occurred to me, that I need to rm -rf also /var/lib/texmf. It's working now :) When you'll do the upgrade in Fedora proper, it might be a good idea to clear /var/lib/texmf then (via the packages)... You might want to add: csplain pdfetex - -etex -enc csplain-utf8.ini cslatex pdfetex - -etex -enc cslatex-utf8.ini in /usr/share/texlive/texmf/web2c/fmtutil.cnf instead of the links to cp227.tcx translate-file. Thanks, that did the job. I noticed during the time I tried to make csplain working that removing and re-adding the texlive-csplain package adds to this file lots of garbage which make csplain format generation not working... You'll get lines like: csplain pdftex - -extex -translate-file=cp227.tcx cslatex.ini pdftex - -extex -translate-file=cp227.tcx cslatex.ini and so on Would be worth fixing, even though it's a corner case... Anyway, after installing some (which looked like I'd might need them) collections and texlive-bbm, I was able to successfully build my Bachelors' thesis (it's about general relativity, and it uses pretty pretty much everything I've ever tried with TeX, so the coverage is rather good), so I can say that (cs)plain (utf8) works in TexLive 2009 well. Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 04:48:49PM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 14:44 +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote: Hi, TeX Live 2009 pretest is now available via external repository for testing in Fedora: rpm -Uhv http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/texlive-release-2009-0.1.fc11.noarch.rpm Maybe a good idea is to start directly with TeX Live 2009 in Fedora because TL 2008 has different package set and TL 2009 contains newest packages and will likely be released this year. And before that we can help with testing :) My current effort is aimed to font packaging so that the fonts are available to non-TeX Live users as well. It seems your spec making program has some bugs, as some packages have names such as texlive-csplain.ARCH, this probably shouldn't be..? Nope, it is intentional. It is needed to somehow distinguish the noarch and arch-dependent part. So package texlive-csplain contains the noarch bits and texlive-csplain.ARCH ships the binaries. When I try to install texlive-scheme-full on F11 x86_64 I get a bunch of errors due to missing packages: -- Missing Dependency: texlive-findhyph is needed by package texlive-collection-binextra-2009-14758.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-germkorr is needed by package texlive-collection-langgerman-2009-14751.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-spverbatim is needed by package texlive-collection-latexextra-2009-14750.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-fig4latex is needed by package texlive-collection-pictures-2009-14752.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-findhyph is needed by package texlive-collection-binextra-2009-14758.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-titlepic is needed by package texlive-collection-latexextra-2009-14750.fc11.noarch (texlive) Fixed. It was caused by old repodata. It should work now. Jindrich -- Jussi Lehtola Fedora Project Contributor jussileht...@fedoraproject.org -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- Jindrich Novy jn...@redhat.com http://people.redhat.com/jnovy/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 03:38:57PM +0100, Mary Ellen Foster wrote: 2009/8/20 Jindrich Novy jn...@redhat.com: Thanks for noticing. I've tested only upgrade from texlive-2007 installation with no dvipdfmx installed. I'll fix it in the next repo update. Another related upgrade issue: texlive-psutils doesn't obsolete psutils ... (is there a better place to note this sort of thing?) Please use: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:Features/TeXLive or: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/488651 for now or mail me directly. Currently I have no better place to report bugs/RFEs. Jindrich MEF -- Mary Ellen Foster -- http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ ICCS, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- Jindrich Novy jn...@redhat.com http://people.redhat.com/jnovy/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 04:03:54PM +0200, Pavel Lisy wrote: Jindrich Novy píše v Čt 20. 08. 2009 v 14:44 +0200: Hi, TeX Live 2009 pretest is now available via external repository for testing in Fedora: rpm -Uhv http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/texlive-release-2009-0.1.fc11.noarch.rpm Maybe a good idea is to start directly with TeX Live 2009 in Fedora because TL 2008 has different package set and TL 2009 contains newest packages and will likely be released this year. And before that we can help with testing :) My current effort is aimed to font packaging so that the fonts are available to non-TeX Live users as well. For more information: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive Thanks one question: in F11 is csindex program missing. I've read somewhere there was problem in missing autoconf for it. What about new TeX Live? Is it there now? Can I help if csindex is still missing? I don't see csindex in TeX Live 2009 as well... Please ask directly on the upstream mailing list tex-l...@tug.org, they will be happy if you offer help :) Jindrich Pavel -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- Jindrich Novy jn...@redhat.com http://people.redhat.com/jnovy/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 03:48:00PM +0100, Mary Ellen Foster wrote: 2009/8/20 Mary Ellen Foster mefos...@gmail.com: What's up with xetex? The package is named texlive-xetex.ARCH, and it seems to depend on a package called texlive-xetex which isn't provided in the new repository, and therefore pulls in the whole old version of texlive from the core repository again ... Sorry, never mind -- looks like it has an unversioned dependency or something, texlive-xetex is in the new repo and once I excluded the old repos it worked again. (Should obsolete teckit though ...) and t1utils. I need to yet hack the dependency generator to obsolete or require these external utilities. For now I modified the spec creator to require versioned packages every time to avoid these surprises. Jindrich MEF -- Mary Ellen Foster -- http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ ICCS, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- Jindrich Novy jn...@redhat.com http://people.redhat.com/jnovy/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
2009/8/20 Mary Ellen Foster mefos...@gmail.com: 2009/8/20 Jindrich Novy jn...@redhat.com: Maybe a good idea is to start directly with TeX Live 2009 in Fedora because TL 2008 has different package set and TL 2009 contains newest packages and will likely be released this year. And before that we can help with testing :) One more issue: some packages (like R, for example) still depend on tetex-latex, which I guess used to be a virtual provide of texlive but is now gone. What's the plan for dealing with this? Here's the full list of things that require tetex-latex according to repoquery: a2ps-0:4.14-8.fc11.x86_64 asymptote-0:1.70-1.fc11.x86_64 fig2ps-0:1.3.6-4.fc11.noarch hevea-0:1.10-3.fc11.x86_64 HippoDraw-0:1.21.1-9.fc11.x86_64 ipe-0:6.0-0.29.pre30.fc11.x86_64 jadetex-0:3.13-5.fc11.noarch mediawiki-math-0:1.14.0-45.fc11.x86_64 pdfjam-0:1.21-1.fc11.noarch pyscript-0:0.6.1-4.fc11.noarch R-devel-0:2.9.0-2.fc11.x86_64 tetex-bytefield-0:1.2a-5.fc11.noarch tetex-dvipost-0:1.1-10.fc11.x86_64 tetex-elsevier-0:0.1.20071024-2.fc11.noarch tetex-IEEEtran-0:1.7.1-2.fc11.noarch tetex-perltex-0:1.7-2.fc11.noarch tetex-prosper-0:1.5-5.fc11.noarch texmaker-1:1.8-2.fc11.x86_64 These packages should be updated to require tex(latex). -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 05:11:31PM +0100, Jonathan Underwood wrote: 2009/8/20 Mary Ellen Foster mefos...@gmail.com: 2009/8/20 Jindrich Novy jn...@redhat.com: Maybe a good idea is to start directly with TeX Live 2009 in Fedora because TL 2008 has different package set and TL 2009 contains newest packages and will likely be released this year. And before that we can help with testing :) One more issue: some packages (like R, for example) still depend on tetex-latex, which I guess used to be a virtual provide of texlive but is now gone. What's the plan for dealing with this? Here's the full list of things that require tetex-latex according to repoquery: a2ps-0:4.14-8.fc11.x86_64 asymptote-0:1.70-1.fc11.x86_64 fig2ps-0:1.3.6-4.fc11.noarch hevea-0:1.10-3.fc11.x86_64 HippoDraw-0:1.21.1-9.fc11.x86_64 ipe-0:6.0-0.29.pre30.fc11.x86_64 jadetex-0:3.13-5.fc11.noarch mediawiki-math-0:1.14.0-45.fc11.x86_64 pdfjam-0:1.21-1.fc11.noarch pyscript-0:0.6.1-4.fc11.noarch R-devel-0:2.9.0-2.fc11.x86_64 tetex-bytefield-0:1.2a-5.fc11.noarch tetex-dvipost-0:1.1-10.fc11.x86_64 tetex-elsevier-0:0.1.20071024-2.fc11.noarch tetex-IEEEtran-0:1.7.1-2.fc11.noarch tetex-perltex-0:1.7-2.fc11.noarch tetex-prosper-0:1.5-5.fc11.noarch texmaker-1:1.8-2.fc11.x86_64 These packages should be updated to require tex(latex). Right. These packages need to be updated to reflect the newly introduced virtual provides. The reason of adding virtual provides was to make packages not dependent on a praticular TeX distribution. These virtual provides, such as tex(tex), tex(latex) or tex(xetex) were added at the beginning of the year 2008 so it works at least for Fedora 9 and higher. We should file bugs for these packages. Jindrich -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- Jindrich Novy jn...@redhat.com http://people.redhat.com/jnovy/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [tex-live] TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
Hi Norbert, On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 06:33:26PM +0200, Norbert Preining wrote: Hi Jindrich, On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Jindrich Novy wrote: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive How do you handle installation of texlive-scheme-* since the schemes are overlapping? AFAIR rpm does not allow sharing pf files? Schemes and collections are generated as meta-packages, not really shipping any files, but dependent on required collections and packages. Here is a sample of scheme-context for example: %package scheme-context Summary: ConTeXt scheme Version: %{tl_version} Release: 13822%{?dist} BuildArch: noarch Requires: texlive = %{tl_version} Requires: texlive-collection-context Requires: texlive-collection-metapost Requires: texlive-xetex Requires: texlive-tex-gyre Requires: texlive-antt Requires: texlive-antp Requires: texlive-iwona Requires: texlive-kurier Requires: texlive-lm Provides: tex(context) So even though collections and packages do overlap in schemes we have no conflicts :) By installing a wider scheme only missing packages are installed. Jindrich Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining prein...@logic.atVienna University of Technology Debian Developer prein...@debian.org Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- BEDFONT A lurching sensation in the pit of the stomach experienced at breakfast in a hotel, occasioned by the realisation that it is about now that the chamber-maid will have discovered the embarrassing stain on your bottom sheet. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff -- Jindrich Novy jn...@redhat.com http://people.redhat.com/jnovy/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
JN == Jindrich Novy jn...@redhat.com writes: JN These virtual provides, such as tex(tex), tex(latex) or tex(xetex) JN were added at the beginning of the year 2008 so it works at least JN for Fedora 9 and higher. JN We should file bugs for these packages. There are many, many more packages that require tetex-latex at build time. Notably every R package, most likely because of http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:R. - J -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
JLT == Jason L Tibbitts ti...@math.uh.edu writes: JLT There are many, many more packages that require tetex-latex at JLT build time. Notably every R package, most likely because of JLT http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:R. I have adjusted the guideline page to reference tex(latex), but I believe this will cause issues for EPEL as no RHEL version seems to have tex(latex). - J -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 14:44 +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote: Hi, TeX Live 2009 pretest is now available via external repository for testing in Fedora: rpm -Uhv http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/texlive-release-2009-0.1.fc11.noarch.rpm Any chance you could build this for Rawhide as well? Otherwise, would it be advisable to use the F11 packages on Rawhide? Thanks, -- Michel -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 01:26:13PM -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: JLT == Jason L Tibbitts ti...@math.uh.edu writes: JLT There are many, many more packages that require tetex-latex at JLT build time. Notably every R package, most likely because of JLT http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:R. I have adjusted the guideline page to reference tex(latex), but I believe this will cause issues for EPEL as no RHEL version seems to have tex(latex). Thanks for updating the packaging guidelines. I will add te tetex-* provides to be compatible with the legacy packages. Jindrich - J -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- Jindrich Novy jn...@redhat.com http://people.redhat.com/jnovy/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list