Re: yum-presto plugin by default
2009/8/18 Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu: On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 01:35:37AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 07/26/2009 06:40 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi, Can we make it a default in comps for Rawhide? Rahul No answer here after weeks. After some lengthy discussion with rel-eng team in irc, not much care either way. Talked to desktop team and based on their recommendation, I have added yum-presto to the GNOME Desktop group by default. If rel-eng wants to add it a base group for the DVD image, feel free to do so. Spin owners - likewise. Thanks. I've been using yum-presto since before F11 came out, and it is great. +1 to installing it by default in F12. FWIW, I have also experienced zero problems with it and believe it would be better enabled by default, retaining the option to disable. Updates would get done faster and mirrors would be able to cope with more connections, especially in the first push after release day... :) -- Christopher Brown -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: yum-presto plugin by default
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Jeff Spaletajspal...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Christopher Brownsnecklif...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, I have also experienced zero problems with it and believe it would be better enabled by default, retaining the option to disable. Updates would get done faster and mirrors would be able to cope with more connections, especially in the first push after release day... :) Only potential side effect is cpu consumption that the delta unpacking process requires. User on single core systems may notice that unless presto renices itself down in priority. Most users are using packagekit so the update process is reniced to 10 and the io prio is set to idle. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: yum-presto plugin by default
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 13:47 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: Only potential side effect is cpu consumption that the delta unpacking process requires. User on single core systems may notice that unless presto renices itself down in priority. The hit on slow disks is pretty bad too, even non-slow disks. With a local mirror the time to re-make the deltas is far longer than the time to just pull down the entire packages. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: yum-presto plugin by default
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Jesse Keatingjkeat...@redhat.com wrote: The hit on slow disks is pretty bad too, even non-slow disks. With a local mirror the time to re-make the deltas is far longer than the time to just pull down the entire packages. Time isn't the only metric...people may also be concerned about metered bandwidth. CPU overchurn we can limit via process priority..but finding a heuristic to determine what too slow means when it comes to disk io versus bandwidth is probably something we can't do. -jefspeaking of metered bandwidth..I need to remember to work from barnes and nobles instead of working from home this winter..so i can steal power, wireless and a nice warm firespaleta -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: yum-presto plugin by default
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 14:17 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: -jefspeaking of metered bandwidth..I need to remember to work from barnes and nobles instead of working from home this winter..so i can steal power, wireless and a nice warm firespaleta Nice warm fire? you're going to burn all the books? :) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: yum-presto plugin by default
I would hold off on the default thing. I have found that it has played havoc with intel video drivers and NetworkManager. I do not know how but for me it was a pain in the neck. All I know is that after I re-installed and upgraded I have had no problems -1 to installing it by default in F12. Steven On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 22:40 +0100, Christopher Brown wrote: 2009/8/18 Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu: On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 01:35:37AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 07/26/2009 06:40 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi, Can we make it a default in comps for Rawhide? Rahul No answer here after weeks. After some lengthy discussion with rel-eng team in irc, not much care either way. Talked to desktop team and based on their recommendation, I have added yum-presto to the GNOME Desktop group by default. If rel-eng wants to add it a base group for the DVD image, feel free to do so. Spin owners - likewise. Thanks. I've been using yum-presto since before F11 came out, and it is great. +1 to installing it by default in F12. FWIW, I have also experienced zero problems with it and believe it would be better enabled by default, retaining the option to disable. Updates would get done faster and mirrors would be able to cope with more connections, especially in the first push after release day... :) -- Christopher Brown -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: yum-presto plugin by default
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:03:44AM +0800, Steven James Drinnan wrote: I would hold off on the default thing. I have found that it has played havoc with intel video drivers and NetworkManager. I do not know how but for me it was a pain in the neck. All I know is that after I re-installed and upgraded I have had no problems -1 to installing it by default in F12. What the heck does yum-presto have to do with the quality of the xorg-x11-drv-intel and NetworkManager packages? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: yum-presto plugin by default
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:36:15AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:03:44AM +0800, Steven James Drinnan wrote: I would hold off on the default thing. I have found that it has played havoc with intel video drivers and NetworkManager. I do not know how but for me it was a pain in the neck. All I know is that after I re-installed and upgraded I have had no problems -1 to installing it by default in F12. What the heck does yum-presto have to do with the quality of the xorg-x11-drv-intel and NetworkManager packages? Responding to myself, are you perhaps confusing yum-presto with presto? Name : yum-presto Arch : noarch Version: 0.5.0 Release: 1.fc11 Size : 78 k Repo : installed Summary: Presto plugin for yum URL: http://www.lesbg.com/jdieter/presto/ License: GPLv2+ Description: Yum-presto is a plugin for yum that looks for deltarpms rather than : rpms whenever they are available. This has the potential of saving : a lot of bandwidth when downloading updates. : : A Deltarpm is the difference between two rpms. If you already have : foo-1.0 installed and foo-1.1 is available, yum-presto will : download the deltarpm for foo-1.0 = 1.1 rather than the full : foo-1.1 rpm, and then build the full foo-1.1 package from your : installed foo-1.0 and the downloaded deltarpm. Name : presto Arch : x86_64 Version: 0.1.3 Release: 6.fc11 Size : 35 k Repo : fedora Summary: A tilemap engine using the Allegro game programming library URL: http://www.hypersonicsoft.org/projects/showproject.php?id=29 License: GPLv3+ Description: Presto is a general-use tilemap engine coded in C that uses Allegro : for graphics rendering, and therefore is intended for use in games : using Allegro. It can handle rectangular tiles of any height and : width (and different height from width), loading tilemaps from : files, tile blending, and the capability to change most of these : elements on the fly. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: yum-presto plugin by default
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 01:35:37AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 07/26/2009 06:40 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi, Can we make it a default in comps for Rawhide? Rahul No answer here after weeks. After some lengthy discussion with rel-eng team in irc, not much care either way. Talked to desktop team and based on their recommendation, I have added yum-presto to the GNOME Desktop group by default. If rel-eng wants to add it a base group for the DVD image, feel free to do so. Spin owners - likewise. Thanks. I've been using yum-presto since before F11 came out, and it is great. +1 to installing it by default in F12. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
yum-presto plugin by default
Hi, Can we make it a default in comps for Rawhide? Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
