[Bug 401641] Add dependency on mkfontdir and mkfontscale: xorg-x11-font-utils
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Add dependency on mkfontdir and mkfontscale: xorg-x11-font-utils https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=401641 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-11-28 06:10 EST --- (In reply to comment #5) (In reply to comment #4) Alternatively we could fix the font guidelines to drop the bogus demand This is not a bogus demand and works fine for other font backends, and there's no reason it can not work fine for core fonts. True, it might very well be made to work for core fonts, but, see below ... And Nicolas, can we please get some more care for core fonts in the font sig, Core fonts will get as much care in the SIG as core fonts users contribute. It's a wiki, write autoritative core font scriptlets or guidelines I've said many times I would welcome them. What I refuse to do is to do this work in the stead of core font users. I've paid the can not find font fixed price like everyone in the distro for years, it's time for core font users to start taking care of themselves. The problem is not that you are refusing to work on core font Guidelines, the problem is that you are actually meddling with Core fonts existing practices in such a way that core fonts break. If you don't want to touch core fonts, then don't touch them, including not touching the requires needed for the current scriplets! Here is what the font sig has done: * Create a guildeline that font scriptlets may not have requires Result: * Poof core fonts are broken Here is what the font sig should have done: * Create guidelines for core font scriptlets so that the requires are no longer needed, yet things still work. * Create a guideline saying that core font scriptlet requires are no longer allowed, and that instead the new scriplets should be used. Result: * Things stay working Or alternatively the font sig could have done this: * Don't make any changes to core fonts as they are fragile, and this means keeping the requires for mkfontdir / mkfontscale Result: * Things stay working You (the font sig) have broken things, so now YOU get to fix it. Its really that simple, everything else is just white noise. If you don't want to fix ti, then undo the breaking. Breaking things and then saying yeah we broke it, but we don't care about it so its not our problem, is not acceptable period. core fonts are not going to go away, they are used by Xt and derived toolkits like Xaw, and motif, that adds up to a lot of apps we are talking about. Then surely there is at least one core font user willing to expend the time to think about and write core fonts packaging guidelines. Perhaps, but right now the font sig is doing things backwards, YOU are actively causing breakage, while you should have waited / worked in guidelines instead of just breaking things. YOU are causing regressions, stop doing that please. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 401641] Add dependency on mkfontdir and mkfontscale: xorg-x11-font-utils
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Add dependency on mkfontdir and mkfontscale: xorg-x11-font-utils https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=401641 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-11-28 07:32 EST --- (In reply to comment #9) (In reply to comment #5) (In reply to comment #4) And Nicolas, can we please get some more care for core fonts in the font sig, Core fonts will get as much care in the SIG as core fonts users contribute. It's a wiki, write autoritative core font scriptlets or guidelines I've said many times I would welcome them. What I refuse to do is to do this work in the stead of core font users. I've paid the can not find font fixed price like everyone in the distro for years, it's time for core font users to start taking care of themselves. The problem is not that you are refusing to work on core font Guidelines, the problem is that you are actually meddling with Core fonts existing practices in such a way that core fonts break. Please look at changelogs dates, this particular package (and all the broken core font packages we have right now) was modified before I even launched the Font SIG idea. I didn't break anything. I didn't touch this package. It would be broken the same way if I hadn't done any font work. Now people find out core fonts are broken, I only ask they find clean solutions that do not clash with what we've done for other font systems, and document them so we don't hit the same problems in 20 different packages. Core font users are used to the comfortable position where someone else fixes their problems for them. Big news: core font system is not critical enough anymore for this to happen. Stop complaining about the SIG the SIG didn't break anything, core fonts basically broke because no one was caring enough anymore to write good guidelines and check they actually work. The fix is to actually step up to write the guidelines, not rant about the SIG in bugs. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 401641] Add dependency on mkfontdir and mkfontscale: xorg-x11-font-utils
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Add dependency on mkfontdir and mkfontscale: xorg-x11-font-utils https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=401641 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-11-28 08:10 EST --- in my opinion, it isn't a good idea to ship pregenerated fonts.dir and fonts.scale in urw-fonts. Adding requires on xorg-x11-font-utils is the clean solution for me. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 401641] Add dependency on mkfontdir and mkfontscale: xorg-x11-font-utils
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Add dependency on mkfontdir and mkfontscale: xorg-x11-font-utils https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=401641 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added CC|fedora-fonts-bugs- | |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-11-28 09:15 EST --- (In reply to comment #13) As for this being against the new fonts guidelines, the new guidelines are broken in that they do not offer a solution to the problem this creates, The new guidelines are not broken. They don't offer a solution but don't prevent every solution either. You know that perfectly well. I only ask you to respect the work of other project members and try to fit in. If you prefer to knowingly make quick and dirty antisocial choices rather than: 1. think 10 min 2. do the missing documentation work (on a subsystem you've just claimed is highly critical for you) That's pretty sad, and will end up in ugly clashes. And I don't even ask an apology for your wild claims I broke this package, or all the other core fonts packages that passed all F8 test releases without one core fonts user bothering to test them and report problems. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 402691] Directory of sazanami font in cidfmap.ja is not permiited path by ghostscript CID font substitiotion
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Directory of sazanami font in cidfmap.ja is not permiited path by ghostscript CID font substitiotion https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=402691 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[EMAIL PROTECTED] Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Flag||needinfo?([EMAIL PROTECTED] ||il.com) --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-11-28 19:37 EST --- Since you've been filing a bug against fonts-japanese, what do you suggest to get this fixed then? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 402691] Directory of sazanami font in cidfmap.ja is not permiited path by ghostscript CID font substitiotion
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Directory of sazanami font in cidfmap.ja is not permiited path by ghostscript CID font substitiotion https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=402691 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEEDINFO|NEW Flag|needinfo?([EMAIL PROTECTED]| |il.com) | --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-11-28 20:02 EST --- I thought there was some more generic way to handle CID font substitution. Becase there will come soon VLgothic font and replace default gothic font. This bug was handled and fixed by ghostscript package. Please close this bug. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 386131] Fonts not added to the font path catalogue
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Fonts not added to the font path catalogue https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=386131 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-11-28 20:45 EST --- taipeifonts-1.2-5.fc8 has been pushed to the Fedora 8 testing repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report. If you want to test the update, you can install it with su -c 'yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update taipeifonts' -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
