[Bug 489833] Default Font Rendering is Poor
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489833 --- Comment #2 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-03-12 07:52:10 EDT --- 1. OO.o behaves differently since it uses a different text stack. This is being fixed upstream, you can ask OO.o devs to accelerate the move to pango/cairo if you like 2. GNOME font sizes are different: this is a result of GNOME allowing the overloading of DPI value in gconf instead of using the Xorg DPI value as everything else. Complain GNOME-side. DE people need to be hit with a huge cluestick and leave DPI to X (and modify this value at the X level if needed not in private overlays others apps do not see) 3. Cleartype. Not going to happen for legal reasons. Additionnaly it only performs good on very specific hardware, and very specific fonts (MS fonts which have bugs cleartype hides; we're not going to optimise our display for fonts we do not ship to the detriment of fonts we do ship). For every comment you'll find on the net praising those patches you'll find three stating they suck and make things worse. (likewise for Ubuntu vs Fedora text rendering) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 489833] Default Font Rendering is Poor
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489833 --- Comment #3 from Kevin Kofler ke...@tigcc.ticalc.org 2009-03-12 11:06:41 EDT --- ad 2. It's not that. My screen reports a resolution which is basically 96×96 dpi, and I even tried forcing both KDE and GNOME to exactly that, GTK+ apps still display larger fonts at the same size. Only when setting GTK+/GNOME to 94 dpi did I get approximately the same size (but not quite as nice looking fonts as with 96 dpi, though I got used to that). What happens is that if I turn down the hinting (autohinter, mind you, I don't have freetype-freeworld installed, I only maintain it ;-) ), the effect disappears (but the fonts look bad), the stronger the (auto)hinting, the larger GTK+'s fonts get and the smaller Qt's. Somehow they use different algorithms. :-( -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 489833] Default Font Rendering is Poor
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489833 Kevin Kofler ke...@tigcc.ticalc.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution||CANTFIX --- Comment #1 from Kevin Kofler ke...@tigcc.ticalc.org 2009-03-12 01:28:14 EDT --- We cannot enable these features in Fedora because they violate software patents. You can try the freetype-freeworld packages from RPM Fusion, but these packages do not carry Ubuntu's antialiasing patches which are not upstream, they only enable the bytecode interpreter and subpixel antialiasing from upstream freetype (which cannot be done in Fedora due to software patents). The only complaint which sounds valid is this one: In Firefox, fonts are too big proportionally no matter how font settings are changed in Edit|Preferences. They look about 1 size bigger or smaller than they should be. I've also noticed GTK+ apps displaying larger fonts at the same point size and dpi than Qt apps. 94 dpi in pango is about the same size as 96 dpi in Qt. But this is a completely separate issue, it has nothing to do with the patent-encumbered patches you're referencing. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
