Re: rawhide report: 20071201 changes

2007-12-01 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sat, 2007-12-01 at 08:15 -0500, Build System wrote:
 kernel-2.6.24-0.61.rc3.git5.fc9
 ---
 * Fri Nov 30 2007 Kyle McMartin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 - Oops! Local make-build-go-faster kernel.spec patch slipped in,
   reverted.

cat  GNUmakefile   EOF
ppc ppc64 i686: DIST_DEFINES += --without debug --without doc --without headers 
--without debuginfo
include Makefile
EOF


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Re: Getting rid of sysprof-kmod

2007-12-01 Thread Dave Jones
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 01:02:23AM +0100, Gianluca Sforna wrote:
  Hi,
  I just finished removing the sysprof-kmod package from CVS as mandated
  by the new guidelines for F9 and above.
  
  I am now seeking some help to understand what is needed to have again
  the kernel module required for proper operations of the sysprof
  package.
  
  Upstream sources are at:
  http://www.daimi.au.dk/~sandmann/sysprof/

The upstream kernel is likely to eventually get support for
perfmon2 integrated, but this could really use more work.
It's been in -mm for a while.  If there's anything that sysprof
can do that perfmon can't (which would be surprising given
perfmons featuritis) it would useful to talk with the perfmon
developers so we can eventually arrive at an upstreamed solution
and not have to worry about integrating out-of-tree patches.

Dave

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Re: Getting rid of sysprof-kmod

2007-12-01 Thread Gianluca Sforna
On Dec 2, 2007 1:09 AM, Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 01:02:23AM +0100, Gianluca Sforna wrote:
   Hi,
   I just finished removing the sysprof-kmod package from CVS as mandated
   by the new guidelines for F9 and above.
  
   I am now seeking some help to understand what is needed to have again
   the kernel module required for proper operations of the sysprof
   package.
  
   Upstream sources are at:
   http://www.daimi.au.dk/~sandmann/sysprof/

 The upstream kernel is likely to eventually get support for
 perfmon2 integrated, but this could really use more work.
 It's been in -mm for a while.  If there's anything that sysprof
 can do that perfmon can't (which would be surprising given
 perfmons featuritis) it would useful to talk with the perfmon
 developers so we can eventually arrive at an upstreamed solution
 and not have to worry about integrating out-of-tree patches.


Thanks Dave, this is an interesting information, so I am CCing the
upstream author (just in case he is not subscribed to this list).

Now I still wonder what to do here because:
1. it's not sure if this perfmon2 will be in Fedora kernels before F9 ships
2. sysprof has to be adapted to use perfmon2

I mean, it's clear that 1+2 it's the best thing we could come out
with, but I'd like to have working sysprof in the repo until that
materialize. To this end, please weight in that this is just a single
module (one .c and its .h) loaded by the user only when needed.
Of course, I can not argue with you about the implications of
including this into the kernel package, but I really would like a B
plan if we will not have a perfmon enabled kernel+userspace available
in time.

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Re: Getting rid of sysprof-kmod

2007-12-01 Thread David Zeuthen

On Sat, 2007-12-01 at 19:09 -0500, Dave Jones wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 01:02:23AM +0100, Gianluca Sforna wrote:
   Hi,
   I just finished removing the sysprof-kmod package from CVS as mandated
   by the new guidelines for F9 and above.
   
   I am now seeking some help to understand what is needed to have again
   the kernel module required for proper operations of the sysprof
   package.
   
   Upstream sources are at:
   http://www.daimi.au.dk/~sandmann/sysprof/
 
 The upstream kernel is likely to eventually get support for
 perfmon2 integrated, but this could really use more work.
 It's been in -mm for a while.  If there's anything that sysprof
 can do that perfmon can't (which would be surprising given
 perfmons featuritis) it would useful to talk with the perfmon
 developers so we can eventually arrive at an upstreamed solution
 and not have to worry about integrating out-of-tree patches.

Until that happens can we please carry the patch in the Fedora kernel?
IIRC it's not invasive at all. And it's really annoying not being able
to use sysprof. Thanks.

  David


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Re: Getting rid of sysprof-kmod

2007-12-01 Thread Dave Jones
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 02:04:01AM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
 
 Upstream sources are at:
 http://www.daimi.au.dk/~sandmann/sysprof/
   
   The upstream kernel is likely to eventually get support for
   perfmon2 integrated, but this could really use more work.
   It's been in -mm for a while.  If there's anything that sysprof
   can do that perfmon can't (which would be surprising given
   perfmons featuritis) it would useful to talk with the perfmon
   developers so we can eventually arrive at an upstreamed solution
   and not have to worry about integrating out-of-tree patches.
  
  Until that happens can we please carry the patch in the Fedora kernel?
  IIRC it's not invasive at all. And it's really annoying not being able
  to use sysprof. Thanks.

The problem is I really hate adding patches that provide new user interfaces.
It's easy enough to add it, but it'll be a 'fedora-ism' that doesn't work
in any other distro, or with an upstream kernel.   And what happens
if someone starts building more things on top of the sysprof exports?

It's the same reason patches that add syscalls get vetoed. We don't
want to be in a situation where it appears we're locking users into
running our distro/kernel.

Dave

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