Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-07-18 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson

Ric Moore wrote:

On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 21:22 -0400, Nat Gross wrote:

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Ric Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



If the OP has more than one kernel installed, maybe try using the older  one?

I have had a few kernel upgrades since and I think my config keeps
only 3 kernels around.
So, I ain't rolling back a kernel at this stage. (It started a few weeks ago.)


Well, if you only have several kernels still loaded, just choose the
oldest one to boot on. See if that makes any difference. Trouble
shooting with a shotgun here. 


Maybe some one more knowledgeable with kernel parameters could hand you
something to append to the end of the kernel load string, during the
grub boot, to throttle the cpu? Ric

Changing kernel versions didn't help for me. Funny thing - I changed 
motherboards and now it is back to normal. I am not sure if it was 
changing from the snd-intel8x0 driver to the snd-atiixp driver, or 
the fact that the system recalculated something like CPU delay. (I 
forget the exact message.)


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Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-06-24 Thread Zoltan Boszormenyi
Zoltan Boszormenyi írta:
> Michael Schwendt írta:
>   
>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:37:27 -0700, Nifty Hat Mitch wrote:
>>
>>   
>> 
 yep. Still about triple speed.
 Remember the vinyl records? Sounds like a 33 being played at 78. (If I
 remember the numbers)
   
 
>>> Curious, is cpuspeed active?
>>>
>>> Since cpuspeed (see also powernow) can tinker with the processor's clock 
>>> speed it is 'possible' but unlikely
>>> that the audio code woke up with the CPU running at a low power slow speed 
>>> and made timing decisions that mismatch the
>>> CPU running at full speed.
>>> 
>>>   
>> Unlikely IMO. The audio chip would still process sample data at the
>> frequency it is set up by the driver to play with. On the contrary, if
>> there's a bug in the kernel driver or an incompatibility in alsa lib, the
>> result could be that 44.1 kHz sample data are played at 96 kHz, for
>> example.
>>   
>> 
>
> I was reading this thread and I wanted to say I have a similar problem
> with a twist.
> I am running F9/x86-64 on my main machine, it doesn't have problems with
> sound.
> I am also running a 32-bit LTSP5 thin client, everything is set up
> according to
> the Fedora k12linux/ltsp docs. The client machine is a Compaq Deskpro EN
> with PIII/866 CPU. And everything I tried on the thin client (software
> running
> on the 64-bit machine actually, sound is transferred to the client's
> pulseaudio
> daemon) is played quicker. Youtube videos keep the video and sound in sync,
> so the video as a whole is played faster. Some other software that prefers
> syncing audio to the video speed produce dropouts in the sound.
> My son especially notices it in ScummVM...
> Watching time go on the thin client console (Ctrl-Alt-F2) didn't show
> anything suspicious. One second seems to be really one second and
> installing ntpdate/ntpd into the thin client didn't change the faster sound.
>   

Talking to myself, it seems. :-)
The solution for me on the thin client was to add a module option:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# pwd
/opt/ltsp/i386/etc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# cat modprobe.conf
options snd-intel8x0 ac97_clock=44100

> Best regards,
> Zoltán Böszörményi
>
>   

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Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-06-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:57:38 +0930
Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If you couldn't log in, how did you bring up the clock?

I eventually found that some combination of kernel options
like noacpi and other "dumb thing down" options made it
work normally, at which point I was able to install
some ssh public keys in a local user, then get those
keys loaded in ssh-agent so no interaction was required to
login qwhen it was in hyperspeed mode :-).

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Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-06-24 Thread Zoltan Boszormenyi
Michael Schwendt írta:
> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:37:27 -0700, Nifty Hat Mitch wrote:
>
>   
>>> yep. Still about triple speed.
>>> Remember the vinyl records? Sounds like a 33 being played at 78. (If I
>>> remember the numbers)
>>>   
>> Curious, is cpuspeed active?
>>
>> Since cpuspeed (see also powernow) can tinker with the processor's clock 
>> speed it is 'possible' but unlikely
>> that the audio code woke up with the CPU running at a low power slow speed 
>> and made timing decisions that mismatch the
>> CPU running at full speed.
>> 
>
> Unlikely IMO. The audio chip would still process sample data at the
> frequency it is set up by the driver to play with. On the contrary, if
> there's a bug in the kernel driver or an incompatibility in alsa lib, the
> result could be that 44.1 kHz sample data are played at 96 kHz, for
> example.
>   

I was reading this thread and I wanted to say I have a similar problem
with a twist.
I am running F9/x86-64 on my main machine, it doesn't have problems with
sound.
I am also running a 32-bit LTSP5 thin client, everything is set up
according to
the Fedora k12linux/ltsp docs. The client machine is a Compaq Deskpro EN
with PIII/866 CPU. And everything I tried on the thin client (software
running
on the 64-bit machine actually, sound is transferred to the client's
pulseaudio
daemon) is played quicker. Youtube videos keep the video and sound in sync,
so the video as a whole is played faster. Some other software that prefers
syncing audio to the video speed produce dropouts in the sound.
My son especially notices it in ScummVM...
Watching time go on the thin client console (Ctrl-Alt-F2) didn't show
anything suspicious. One second seems to be really one second and
installing ntpdate/ntpd into the thin client didn't change the faster sound.

Best regards,
Zoltán Böszörményi

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Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-06-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:37:27 -0700, Nifty Hat Mitch wrote:

> > yep. Still about triple speed.
> > Remember the vinyl records? Sounds like a 33 being played at 78. (If I
> > remember the numbers)
> 
> Curious, is cpuspeed active?
> 
> Since cpuspeed (see also powernow) can tinker with the processor's clock 
> speed it is 'possible' but unlikely
> that the audio code woke up with the CPU running at a low power slow speed 
> and made timing decisions that mismatch the
> CPU running at full speed.

Unlikely IMO. The audio chip would still process sample data at the
frequency it is set up by the driver to play with. On the contrary, if
there's a bug in the kernel driver or an incompatibility in alsa lib, the
result could be that 44.1 kHz sample data are played at 96 kHz, for
example.

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Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-06-23 Thread Ric Moore
On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 21:22 -0400, Nat Gross wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Ric Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > If the OP has more than one kernel installed, maybe try using the older  
> > one?
> I have had a few kernel upgrades since and I think my config keeps
> only 3 kernels around.
> So, I ain't rolling back a kernel at this stage. (It started a few weeks ago.)

Well, if you only have several kernels still loaded, just choose the
oldest one to boot on. See if that makes any difference. Trouble
shooting with a shotgun here. 

Maybe some one more knowledgeable with kernel parameters could hand you
something to append to the end of the kernel load string, during the
grub boot, to throttle the cpu? Ric

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Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-06-23 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 21:03 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> Bring up a clock app: Is the second hand going aound triple speed?
> I had a virtual machine do that on me once, but it was more than
> triple speed, it was near infinite speed - I couldn't login because
> the password prompt would time out faster than I could type the
> password, and the screen would go blank in about 1/2 second because
> the power saver would come on :-).

If you couldn't log in, how did you bring up the clock?

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Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-06-23 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson

Ric Moore wrote:


Previous poster's idea concerning CPU speed sounds like it has much
merit. That would be about all that it could be?? Is this a notebook?
For the life of me I cannot think of anything that would do this across
the board of all the various "players" of sound or video. I could see
something mis-configured in Xine causing the problem, but mplayer
wouldn't duplicate that with a different playback scheme of keyboard
bindings and setup files. 


If the OP has more than one kernel installed, maybe try using the older
one? In my years, I've never heard of this one. And, is this just
happening to a few homebrew audio/video files or all audio/video files?
Like it you went to youtube, are their files playing at a higher than
normal speed? There's gotta be something somewhere to use to narrow down
the problem. You would hope, that is. :) Ric

It is happening on my desktop with the 2.6.25.4-10.fc8 kernel, no 
CPU speed and a Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.50GHz CPU.


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Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-06-23 Thread Nat Gross
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Tom Horsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:40:36 -0400
> Ric Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Previous poster's idea concerning CPU speed sounds like it has much
>> merit.
>
> Bring up a clock app: Is the second hand going aound triple speed?
> I had a virtual machine do that on me once, but it was more than
> triple speed, it was near infinite speed - I couldn't login because
> the password prompt would time out faster than I could type the
> password, and the screen would go blank in about 1/2 second because
> the power saver would come on :-).

Digital and analog clocks (with seconds) working just fine, as is
everything else, except multimedia.

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Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-06-23 Thread Nat Gross
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Ric Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 11:09 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:15:06 -0400, Nat Gross wrote:
>>
>> > Running Fedora 8 32 bit on an Intel 1.6ghz. (This box has run Fedora
>> > since FC Test 3.) (Latest yum updates.)
>> > About 2 weeks ago, my sound/video system started playing back
>> > everything at double-triple speed!
>> > Actually video seems like double speed but audio is like 3-4x!
>> > Over the time in years from FC3, 4, 5, 6, 8, there have been various
>> > multimedia engines installed on this box.
>> > I have no idea where to start!
>> > Any idea please?
>>
>> Try lower-level tools like "aplay" to play a test WAV file.
>>
>>   $ rpm -qf $(which aplay)
>>   alsa-utils-1.0.16-3.fc8
>>
>> Disable pulseaudio if it is running (the process has the same name), then
>> try again. If everything is still 3-4x faster, boot into the previous
>> kernel version. That way you may be able to find out that something
>> in ALSA in the kernel causes these problems.
>
> Previous poster's idea concerning CPU speed sounds like it has much
> merit. That would be about all that it could be?? Is this a notebook?
Not a notebook. A Dell 1.6ghz desktop with 1 gig ram, 32 bit system.

> For the life of me I cannot think of anything that would do this across
> the board of all the various "players" of sound or video. I could see
> something mis-configured in Xine causing the problem, but mplayer
> wouldn't duplicate that with a different playback scheme of keyboard
> bindings and setup files.
>
> If the OP has more than one kernel installed, maybe try using the older  one?
I have had a few kernel upgrades since and I think my config keeps
only 3 kernels around.
So, I ain't rolling back a kernel at this stage. (It started a few weeks ago.)

>In my years, I've never heard of this one. And, is this just
> happening to a few homebrew audio/video files or all audio/video files?
> Like it you went to youtube, are their files playing at a higher than
> normal speed? There's gotta be something somewhere to use to narrow down
> the problem. You would hope, that is. :) Ric

ALL audio video files. Except that the video is ONLY 1.8x-2.5x
increase and audio
is 2x-4x.

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Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-06-23 Thread Nat Gross
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Nifty Hat Mitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:46:29 -0700, Nat Gross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Michael Schwendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:45:30 -0400, Nat Gross wrote:
>>>
 On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Michael Schwendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 wrote:
 > On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:20:54 -0400, Nat Gross wrote:
 >
 >> Ok. I don't have pulseaudio loaded. I tried loading it and nothing 
 >> changed.
 >> With Aplay, I'm having a problem finding test media for it. Any wav
 >> file I threw at it,
 >> it refused to play because:
 >> aplay: test_wavefile:749: can't play not PCM-coded WAVE-files
 >
 > Then they used Microsoft ADPCM encoding. You could still play
 > or convert them with "sox" (and "play") instead.

 Hey. Thanks for introducing me to sox. I wish I had known such a thing 
 existed
 and I will need it in the future. But, it is too complex for me right now 
 just
 to play something with it.
>>>
>>> play filename
>>
>> yep. Still about triple speed.
>> Remember the vinyl records? Sounds like a 33 being played at 78. (If I
>> remember the numbers)
>
> Curious, is cpuspeed active?
>
> Since cpuspeed (see also powernow) can tinker with the processor's clock 
> speed it is 'possible' but unlikely
> that the audio code woke up with the CPU running at a low power slow speed 
> and made timing decisions that mismatch > > the  CPU running at full speed.
cpuspeed is not active. Activating it, did not change anything either.
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Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-06-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:40:36 -0400
Ric Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Previous poster's idea concerning CPU speed sounds like it has much
> merit.

Bring up a clock app: Is the second hand going aound triple speed?
I had a virtual machine do that on me once, but it was more than
triple speed, it was near infinite speed - I couldn't login because
the password prompt would time out faster than I could type the
password, and the screen would go blank in about 1/2 second because
the power saver would come on :-).

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Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-06-23 Thread Ric Moore
On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 11:09 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:15:06 -0400, Nat Gross wrote:
> 
> > Running Fedora 8 32 bit on an Intel 1.6ghz. (This box has run Fedora
> > since FC Test 3.) (Latest yum updates.)
> > About 2 weeks ago, my sound/video system started playing back
> > everything at double-triple speed!
> > Actually video seems like double speed but audio is like 3-4x!
> > Over the time in years from FC3, 4, 5, 6, 8, there have been various
> > multimedia engines installed on this box.
> > I have no idea where to start!
> > Any idea please?
> 
> Try lower-level tools like "aplay" to play a test WAV file.
> 
>   $ rpm -qf $(which aplay)
>   alsa-utils-1.0.16-3.fc8
> 
> Disable pulseaudio if it is running (the process has the same name), then
> try again. If everything is still 3-4x faster, boot into the previous
> kernel version. That way you may be able to find out that something
> in ALSA in the kernel causes these problems.

Previous poster's idea concerning CPU speed sounds like it has much
merit. That would be about all that it could be?? Is this a notebook?
For the life of me I cannot think of anything that would do this across
the board of all the various "players" of sound or video. I could see
something mis-configured in Xine causing the problem, but mplayer
wouldn't duplicate that with a different playback scheme of keyboard
bindings and setup files. 

If the OP has more than one kernel installed, maybe try using the older
one? In my years, I've never heard of this one. And, is this just
happening to a few homebrew audio/video files or all audio/video files?
Like it you went to youtube, are their files playing at a higher than
normal speed? There's gotta be something somewhere to use to narrow down
the problem. You would hope, that is. :) Ric

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Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-06-23 Thread Ric Moore
On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 18:09 +0200, wwp wrote:
> Hello Nat,
> 
> 
> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:50:07 -0400 "Nat Gross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 2008/6/23 wwp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > Hello Nat,
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:15:06 -0400 "Nat Gross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Running Fedora 8 32 bit on an Intel 1.6ghz. (This box has run Fedora
> > >> since FC Test 3.) (Latest yum updates.)
> > >> About 2 weeks ago, my sound/video system started playing back
> > >> everything at double-triple speed!
> > >>
> > >> Actually video seems like double speed but audio is like 3-4x!
> > >> Over the time in years from FC3, 4, 5, 6, 8, there have been various
> > >> multimedia engines installed on this box.
> > >> I have no idea where to start!
> > >> Any idea please?
> > >
> > > Same here but only few .wav files are impacted, I noticed this change
> > > after a yum update (kerbel + alsa 1.0.16? + reboot), approx. two weeks
> > > ago.
> > >
> > It happens in ALL apps, including Flash media (mlb, youtube, cbs/nbc),
> > as well as offline programs including RealPlayer, Kplayer, and others.
> > It happens in kde and gnome.
> > 
> > I don't think I'll try Rick Moore's advice but I'll try Micheal's ideas.
> > nat
> > Hey Rick M. Was your advice, um.. SOUND advice?
> 
> IMO, Ric's messages was more noise than sound :). Michael's suggestion
> sounds (!) valuable even for my own problem.

Careful, I could use my "Intentionality" on you and wreck your hard
drive across time and space. :) Ric
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Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-06-23 Thread Ric Moore
On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 11:50 -0400, Nat Gross wrote:
> 2008/6/23 wwp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Hello Nat,
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:15:06 -0400 "Nat Gross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Running Fedora 8 32 bit on an Intel 1.6ghz. (This box has run Fedora
> >> since FC Test 3.) (Latest yum updates.)
> >> About 2 weeks ago, my sound/video system started playing back
> >> everything at double-triple speed!
> >>
> >> Actually video seems like double speed but audio is like 3-4x!
> >> Over the time in years from FC3, 4, 5, 6, 8, there have been various
> >> multimedia engines installed on this box.
> >> I have no idea where to start!
> >> Any idea please?
> >
> > Same here but only few .wav files are impacted, I noticed this change
> > after a yum update (kerbel + alsa 1.0.16? + reboot), approx. two weeks
> > ago.
> >
> It happens in ALL apps, including Flash media (mlb, youtube, cbs/nbc),
> as well as offline programs including RealPlayer, Kplayer, and others.
> It happens in kde and gnome.
> 
> I don't think I'll try Rick Moore's advice but I'll try Micheal's ideas.
> nat
> Hey Rick M. Was your advice, um.. SOUND advice?

Drat, I forgot to mention waving a chicken foot at it. (from Caldera
List days) At 4AM that's what you get. Especially when I'm backing up my
system to a pile of 20 gig harddrives. It's amazing the pile of pure
crap that can accumulate that you don't want to part with. 

Especially all the emails from this list, youtube videos, space games,
databases, project files, mp3's, pictures, postcards, my Nigerian Bride
collection ("Before I send the money can you send me more pics?"),
Family Tree stuff, Non-Profit stuff, Wonderland Devel files, Java files
out the Yin Yang. God only knows what I'll forget. Yikes! The web
pages!! Ohmigosh, gotta go.:) Ric

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Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-06-23 Thread Nifty Hat Mitch
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:46:29 -0700, Nat Gross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Michael Schwendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:45:30 -0400, Nat Gross wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Michael Schwendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> > On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:20:54 -0400, Nat Gross wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Ok. I don't have pulseaudio loaded. I tried loading it and nothing 
>>> >> changed.
>>> >> With Aplay, I'm having a problem finding test media for it. Any wav
>>> >> file I threw at it,
>>> >> it refused to play because:
>>> >> aplay: test_wavefile:749: can't play not PCM-coded WAVE-files
>>> >
>>> > Then they used Microsoft ADPCM encoding. You could still play
>>> > or convert them with "sox" (and "play") instead.
>>>
>>> Hey. Thanks for introducing me to sox. I wish I had known such a thing 
>>> existed
>>> and I will need it in the future. But, it is too complex for me right now 
>>> just
>>> to play something with it.
>>
>> play filename
>
> yep. Still about triple speed.
> Remember the vinyl records? Sounds like a 33 being played at 78. (If I
> remember the numbers)

Curious, is cpuspeed active?

Since cpuspeed (see also powernow) can tinker with the processor's clock speed 
it is 'possible' but unlikely
that the audio code woke up with the CPU running at a low power slow speed and 
made timing decisions that mismatch the
CPU running at full speed.





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Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-06-23 Thread Nat Gross
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Michael Schwendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:45:30 -0400, Nat Gross wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Michael Schwendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:20:54 -0400, Nat Gross wrote:
>> >
>> >> Ok. I don't have pulseaudio loaded. I tried loading it and nothing 
>> >> changed.
>> >> With Aplay, I'm having a problem finding test media for it. Any wav
>> >> file I threw at it,
>> >> it refused to play because:
>> >> aplay: test_wavefile:749: can't play not PCM-coded WAVE-files
>> >
>> > Then they used Microsoft ADPCM encoding. You could still play
>> > or convert them with "sox" (and "play") instead.
>>
>> Hey. Thanks for introducing me to sox. I wish I had known such a thing 
>> existed
>> and I will need it in the future. But, it is too complex for me right now 
>> just
>> to play something with it.
>
> play filename

yep. Still about triple speed.
Remember the vinyl records? Sounds like a 33 being played at 78. (If I
remember the numbers)

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Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-06-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:45:30 -0400, Nat Gross wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Michael Schwendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:20:54 -0400, Nat Gross wrote:
> >
> >> Ok. I don't have pulseaudio loaded. I tried loading it and nothing changed.
> >> With Aplay, I'm having a problem finding test media for it. Any wav
> >> file I threw at it,
> >> it refused to play because:
> >> aplay: test_wavefile:749: can't play not PCM-coded WAVE-files
> >
> > Then they used Microsoft ADPCM encoding. You could still play
> > or convert them with "sox" (and "play") instead.
> 
> Hey. Thanks for introducing me to sox. I wish I had known such a thing existed
> and I will need it in the future. But, it is too complex for me right now just
> to play something with it.

play filename

is all you need. "play" is sox's ALSA Library based command-line player.

$ rpm -qf $(which play)
sox-13.0.0-3.fc8

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Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-06-23 Thread Nat Gross
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Michael Schwendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:20:54 -0400, Nat Gross wrote:
>
>> Ok. I don't have pulseaudio loaded. I tried loading it and nothing changed.
>> With Aplay, I'm having a problem finding test media for it. Any wav
>> file I threw at it,
>> it refused to play because:
>> aplay: test_wavefile:749: can't play not PCM-coded WAVE-files
>
> Then they used Microsoft ADPCM encoding. You could still play
> or convert them with "sox" (and "play") instead.

Hey. Thanks for introducing me to sox. I wish I had known such a thing existed
and I will need it in the future. But, it is too complex for me right now just
to play something with it.

nat

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Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-06-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:20:54 -0400, Nat Gross wrote:

> Ok. I don't have pulseaudio loaded. I tried loading it and nothing changed.
> With Aplay, I'm having a problem finding test media for it. Any wav
> file I threw at it,
> it refused to play because:
> aplay: test_wavefile:749: can't play not PCM-coded WAVE-files

Then they used Microsoft ADPCM encoding. You could still play 
or convert them with "sox" (and "play") instead.

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Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-06-23 Thread Nat Gross
2008/6/23 wwp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello Nat,
>
>
> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:50:07 -0400 "Nat Gross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> 2008/6/23 wwp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> > Hello Nat,
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:15:06 -0400 "Nat Gross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Running Fedora 8 32 bit on an Intel 1.6ghz. (This box has run Fedora
>> >> since FC Test 3.) (Latest yum updates.)
>> >> About 2 weeks ago, my sound/video system started playing back
>> >> everything at double-triple speed!
>> >>
>> >> Actually video seems like double speed but audio is like 3-4x!
>> >> Over the time in years from FC3, 4, 5, 6, 8, there have been various
>> >> multimedia engines installed on this box.
>> >> I have no idea where to start!
>> >> Any idea please?
>> >
>> > Same here but only few .wav files are impacted, I noticed this change
>> > after a yum update (kerbel + alsa 1.0.16? + reboot), approx. two weeks
>> > ago.
>> >
>> It happens in ALL apps, including Flash media (mlb, youtube, cbs/nbc),
>> as well as offline programs including RealPlayer, Kplayer, and others.
>> It happens in kde and gnome.
>>
>> I don't think I'll try Rick Moore's advice but I'll try Micheal's ideas.
>> nat
>> Hey Rick M. Was your advice, um.. SOUND advice?
>
> IMO, Ric's messages was more noise than sound :). Michael's suggestion
> sounds (!) valuable even for my own problem.

Ok. I don't have pulseaudio loaded. I tried loading it and nothing changed.
With Aplay, I'm having a problem finding test media for it. Any wav
file I threw at it,
it refused to play because:
aplay: test_wavefile:749: can't play not PCM-coded WAVE-files

nat

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Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-06-23 Thread wwp
Hello Nat,


On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:50:07 -0400 "Nat Gross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 2008/6/23 wwp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Hello Nat,
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:15:06 -0400 "Nat Gross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Running Fedora 8 32 bit on an Intel 1.6ghz. (This box has run Fedora
> >> since FC Test 3.) (Latest yum updates.)
> >> About 2 weeks ago, my sound/video system started playing back
> >> everything at double-triple speed!
> >>
> >> Actually video seems like double speed but audio is like 3-4x!
> >> Over the time in years from FC3, 4, 5, 6, 8, there have been various
> >> multimedia engines installed on this box.
> >> I have no idea where to start!
> >> Any idea please?
> >
> > Same here but only few .wav files are impacted, I noticed this change
> > after a yum update (kerbel + alsa 1.0.16? + reboot), approx. two weeks
> > ago.
> >
> It happens in ALL apps, including Flash media (mlb, youtube, cbs/nbc),
> as well as offline programs including RealPlayer, Kplayer, and others.
> It happens in kde and gnome.
> 
> I don't think I'll try Rick Moore's advice but I'll try Micheal's ideas.
> nat
> Hey Rick M. Was your advice, um.. SOUND advice?

IMO, Ric's messages was more noise than sound :). Michael's suggestion
sounds (!) valuable even for my own problem.


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Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-06-23 Thread Nat Gross
2008/6/23 wwp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello Nat,
>
>
> On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:15:06 -0400 "Nat Gross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Running Fedora 8 32 bit on an Intel 1.6ghz. (This box has run Fedora
>> since FC Test 3.) (Latest yum updates.)
>> About 2 weeks ago, my sound/video system started playing back
>> everything at double-triple speed!
>>
>> Actually video seems like double speed but audio is like 3-4x!
>> Over the time in years from FC3, 4, 5, 6, 8, there have been various
>> multimedia engines installed on this box.
>> I have no idea where to start!
>> Any idea please?
>
> Same here but only few .wav files are impacted, I noticed this change
> after a yum update (kerbel + alsa 1.0.16? + reboot), approx. two weeks
> ago.
>
It happens in ALL apps, including Flash media (mlb, youtube, cbs/nbc),
as well as offline programs including RealPlayer, Kplayer, and others.
It happens in kde and gnome.

I don't think I'll try Rick Moore's advice but I'll try Micheal's ideas.
nat
Hey Rick M. Was your advice, um.. SOUND advice?

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Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-06-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:15:06 -0400, Nat Gross wrote:

> Running Fedora 8 32 bit on an Intel 1.6ghz. (This box has run Fedora
> since FC Test 3.) (Latest yum updates.)
> About 2 weeks ago, my sound/video system started playing back
> everything at double-triple speed!
> Actually video seems like double speed but audio is like 3-4x!
> Over the time in years from FC3, 4, 5, 6, 8, there have been various
> multimedia engines installed on this box.
> I have no idea where to start!
> Any idea please?

Try lower-level tools like "aplay" to play a test WAV file.

  $ rpm -qf $(which aplay)
  alsa-utils-1.0.16-3.fc8

Disable pulseaudio if it is running (the process has the same name), then
try again. If everything is still 3-4x faster, boot into the previous
kernel version. That way you may be able to find out that something
in ALSA in the kernel causes these problems.

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Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-06-22 Thread Ric Moore
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 20:15 -0400, Nat Gross wrote:
> Running Fedora 8 32 bit on an Intel 1.6ghz. (This box has run Fedora
> since FC Test 3.) (Latest yum updates.)
> About 2 weeks ago, my sound/video system started playing back
> everything at double-triple speed!
> Actually video seems like double speed but audio is like 3-4x!
> Over the time in years from FC3, 4, 5, 6, 8, there have been various
> multimedia engines installed on this box.
> I have no idea where to start!
> Any idea please?

Shoot it, to put it out of it's misery, Nat. 

I also have no idea where to start, if it's -all- playback apps. If it's
just one or two that are related, there must be something configured
very wrongly in their setup. 

I know xine and others can fast speed forward through key
bindings ...single key presses. Like the right arrow key, it speeds
things up in Xine. Have you installed a new keyboard, new mouse or some
Croatian version of ASCII? I know of nothing in KDE or Gnome to have
that effect, system wide.
 
New scroll mouse? Try turning the scroll down or up to see if it has
effect? Slap some keys randomly? (This could get really good!)
 

Call 911 to have an ambulance come and use the "Jaws of Life" on the
cabinet to let the demon out?

Reverse the speakers so it would run slower? If everything starts
running backwards, you're getting closer. Adjust your tin foil, too. 

If worse comes to worse, get a copy of "What the "BLEEP!" do we know"
and, through the power of your "intentionality", either bend the
computer to your will by your influence on the electrons on the system
buss, or speed yourself up 2X. Then, either way, you will become one
with the computer and be in sync so that the audio/video which now runs
within the influence of your intentionality. 

Or, the computer's ...whichever one of you wins out. Maybe the rest of
us have already become merged (noticing nothing abnormal) and you're
just the last affected by the "intentionality" of Fedora and, most
likely, KDE4 or PulseAudio. Or ...maybe you slowed down. 

I'm adding more tin-foil before it happens to me.  

More Human than Hu-man. Computer Zombie Ric
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_AaiBfLn5VE  


p/s your problem is so weird that I hope you don't mind me having some
fun with it. It's late, Ric

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Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!

2008-06-22 Thread wwp
Hello Nat,


On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:15:06 -0400 "Nat Gross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Running Fedora 8 32 bit on an Intel 1.6ghz. (This box has run Fedora
> since FC Test 3.) (Latest yum updates.)
> About 2 weeks ago, my sound/video system started playing back
> everything at double-triple speed!
>
> Actually video seems like double speed but audio is like 3-4x!
> Over the time in years from FC3, 4, 5, 6, 8, there have been various
> multimedia engines installed on this box.
> I have no idea where to start!
> Any idea please?

Same here but only few .wav files are impacted, I noticed this change
after a yum update (kerbel + alsa 1.0.16? + reboot), approx. two weeks
ago.


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