Re: Another one - fantastic vet!
Thanks Nina, The vet has suggested we vaccinate all of Mary's cats. They will supply us the vaccine at cost price and let us do it, so this is the route we will take. Most of Mary's cats are healthy. A couple are elderley, one has kidney problems (but she isolates herself in Mary's bedroom by choice anyway) and two are FIV positive (but no symptoms). Keeping these two FeLV cats separate long term isn't really an option as it wouldn't be fair on them, I guess we can just vaccinate the rest. From what I'm seeing here, FeLV isn't that easy to spread anyway, Mary can feed the two positive cats separately to minimize the risk even further. She's not the sort of person to panic about these things, and the vet isn't being alarmist either so hopefully all will turn out well. You never know, they may re-test negative anyway. The annoying thing is that when these cats first came in a couple of months ago they were all taken in by a vet in the area and supposedly tested. One was really poorly (collapsed) and did test positive, she was pts. The others were all negative - this is why we are really hoping these two will get over this and come back clear. Some have been rehomed already too and we've had no comebacks. Sue
Re: Another one - fantastic vet!
I totally agree - have mixed + and - with no problems. Gloria On Nov 2, 2005, at 4:19 PM, Nina wrote: Sue, If you ask a vet about mixing + with -, they will tell you not to do it. Why wouldn't they? It's not their household, the safest course of action is to keep them apart. Actually, the SAFEST course of action is to pts, I don't agree with that either, (obviously). I care more about quality of life rather than quantity, and there was never any hesitation about mixing in my house. It was a mute point anyway, because by the time I found out about my kitties pos status, they'd been mixed with my negatives for months. I had anxious feelings about the possibilities of my negs contracting felv, I knew it would be very tough for me to deal with that sort of consequence, but I also couldn't live with shutting up my angels in a room somewhere, that's no way to live, imo. From the experience of the folks on this list, (me included), a healthy adult, vaccinated cat has very little chance of succumbing to felv. Are Mary's other cats adult and healthy? I can't tell anyone else what to do, but if it were me, I'd vaccinate my cats, keep them separate for whatever the necessary period of time it takes to develop immunity and then celebrate the day when everyone could join together in one big happy family. Nina Sue Taft wrote: Thanks Nina Daisy is having the injectable Virbac Omega Interferon at first. One injection a day for five days, then one on day 14 followed by more later (I can't remember the exact protocol). She may then have it diluted to give orally or she'll carry on with the injections maybe once a month like my Eric has (FIV). We'll take the vets advice on which is best. Hopefully the ulcer will clear up quickly and Daisy will have a long happy life. I have every intention of going back to the original vet and telling him what we did. He apparently dismissed the use of the interferon immediately - in his opinion it's a waste of money! I'll have to show him my Eric's records too, nothing worked on his mouth and I'd have lost him if it wasn't for Sonia (who is my vet) suggesting the interferon. He needs to be told. Mary has other cats too, all negative (as far as we know) and all indoor cats. Would it be an idea to vaccinate these so that Daisy and Bungle can safely live among them? I know it's safe to mix FIV cats but I've no experience with FeLV. Sue
good cat story
When I was a baby, my parents had a siamese cat named Boo-Boo. my parents were of of course worried about how we would interact. He would lay under my crib every night to watch over me and one night i actually got out of my crib and fell down the stairs to the basement. As the story goes Boo-Boo ran into my parents room after this had happened and dug his claws into my dads chest and gave one of those shreik siamese meows to awaken my parents. He then led them to the stairs in the basement where my parents had found me at the bottom of the stairs. If it wasn't for Boo- Boo i probably would have laid down there all night. _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: good cat story/Terrie's response
How sweet and honorable of Boo-Boo! That's a Siamese for ya! Nah just kidding! I believe all cats when there is a need they are therefor you. I have to tellyou allthis! I have a personal kitty that is a Blue PT Ragamuffin, his name is Boo-Boo too. Itis my nickname for him even though his name real name Blue. He only knows Boo-Boo so when I call him Blue he knows he is in deep doodoo. He was part of my rescue effort of over 200 Ragamuffins here in WA. state froma Hoarder/Breeder situation. Everyone was sick andunderweight. You name it these kitties had it all (illnesses) but I'm glad to say no one died which surprise the hell out of me. Believe it or not none tested positive for Felv/Fiv. I'm glad to say all I have left now are 3YAY!!! Everyone has been adopted but them. They are listed on my Petfinder for those that are interested. I stated if I can pull this rescue effort off, I can do anything! Guess what it's happening only 3 left! Will take a little break from rescue for a day or two. Get my thoughts together. Will still have one ear open to those needing rescued. Sorry to drag this on just wanted to talk about it briefly. Thanks for reading! In a message dated 11/3/2005 6:06:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I was a baby, my parents had a siamese cat named Boo-Boo. my parents were of of course worried about how we would interact. He would lay under my crib every night to watch over me and one night i actually got out of my crib and fell down the stairs to the basement. As the story goes Boo-Boo ran into my parents room after this had happened and dug his claws into my dads chest and gave one of those shreik siamese meows to awaken my parents. He then led them to the stairs in the basement where my parents had found me at the bottom of the stairs. If it wasn't for Boo- Boo i probably would have laid down there all night. Terrie MohrTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/
Re: was intro now is health issues
Hi Sandy! Keep asking away! That's what this group is for! :) I can try to give you a little advice about #2 and #3 (and #4, if I remember!)...As for diet, try to stick with foods made with human grade ingredients with meat being listed as the first ingredient (alot of commercial foods have corn meal listed as the first ingredient because it's cheap...not only can animals be allergic to corn meal, but, generally speaking, they just can't digest corn meal properly-- plus, the carbohydrates contribute to obesity)...Most of these ultra- premium foods aren't found at the grocery store or Petsmart (although Nutro isn't a bad option)...I go to a local kennel to pick up my dry food (Innova Evo) and drive all the way down to a vet in Galveston to pick up their canned food (Wellness)...here are their websites if you want to do more research: www.naturapet.com and www.omhpet.com. Their are others out their, as well...Eagle Pack, Wysong...If you go to www.petfooddirect.com and check out their food section, they've got several, high-quality foods...you just have to check out the labels closely! Personally, I've chosen foods that contain no grains at all...just meat, veggies and fruit...and my guys are doing great! Raw food diets are also another option...you can cook them yourself (I don't have much experience with this one) or, some places carry frozed, prepared raw food diets. I've tried Nature's Variety frozen raw food patties...most of my guys like it (one in particular), but they get bored with it after awhile...so I just switch around a bit! Just do a google search with something like bad commercial pet food and you'll get several articles pertaining to what's actually in common commercial pet foods...ick! ;) And as for his mouth...sounds like stomatitis! It's another disease that with take advantage of an FeLV+ cat's weakened immune system...our Pips had it pretty bad...he was finally, successfully treated with Zithromax (and antibiotic). But depending on the severity and whether or not it responds to medications at all, sometimes, the only option is to pull teeth (our vet actually pulled several of Pips' teeth while she was cleaning them). Just keep an eye on them, stomatitis can make eating painful! And as for the panting after playing, that sounds fairly normal to me...I've got a couple of cats (both + and -) who play so hard that they just wear themselves out and start gasping for air (panting)! ;) But, of course, when you're dealing with FeLV, you'll want to keep an eye on that...it's when he's having trouble breathing while just resting when you need to worry. It just sounds like he's an aggressive player (like most kittens)! :) Hope some of this helps! You'll get plenty of more advice from others!! Jen But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. -- Chief Dan George - Original Message - From: Dudes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, November 2, 2005 10:48 pm Subject: was intro now is health issues I sure hope you all don't get tired of my newbie questions. If anyone would rather email me to discuss off list, I would welcome it, at least point me in the right direction so I can read up on them to help educate myself. I feel like there is much to know, and I am a sponge. So (deep breathe) here I go My questions are about my little guy Cotton, the + orange kitten who's about 8 months old. 1. I was telling Jen off list that he has some really awful smellinglitterbox deposits, which are much like diarrhea. When we go to the NEW vet, we will check him for parasites, and anything else that might cause this, like a bacteria. Jen clued me in to a few other things that might be causing this, and what might help. I will definitely mention these things to the vet as well. Right now we are just adding yogurt to his canned food, which seems to be helping. 2. I'd love to talk to someone who has time to go into detail about a really good diet for Cotton, because I believe Cotton may have some deficiencies. But how does one determine that? He seems to eat strange things, and he steals people food. He could go trick-or-treating disguised as a Hoover vacuum cleaner, because he's that indiscriminate. And he constantly begs for food. He never seems to ever get enough. I partly suspect it's because when my stepdaughter had him, she didn't feed him enough or consistently, and I'm wondering if it could just be bad manners which could otherwise be
Animal communication
Wendy Our animals certainly know when we are unhappy and worried which we generally are when they are sick. I think the most important thing is that you are just honest with them and relaxed - tell cricket how you are feeling and that you may cry because you care etc... I'm sure one day you will experience communication. I think it depends on the animal too but don't give up. Thanks for the wensite link - I'll have a look at that. Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy Angel
Re: Pregnant Rescue Work
Here are some links about treatment of Toxo in cats. Some sources say there is no approved treatment for it, but most agree that there are measures to treat the condition that has been used successfully. (In other words... either a treatment exists that works, it just hasn't been studied enough to gain wide-spread approval, or nothing actually CURES the cat [as in killing the toxo immediately on contact], but it does treat it and eliminate the shedding process) Also have other interesting facts about toxo, and it's spread... such as the fact that it takes a day for the things to activate and become transmissible... so if you change the litter daily, it's never contagious. An interesting fact I wasn't aware of until today. http://www.fabcats.org/toxoplasmosis.html http://www.antechdiagnostics.com/clients/antechNews/2000/4-00.htm http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/resources/brochure/toxo.html http://www.capcvet.org/?p=Guidelines_Toxoplasmah=0s=0 Yeah, I know you've heard way too much advice on baby raising by this point, and are sick of it, I thought about not mentioning the baby on side sleeping thing at all (cause I'm sure you've heard it and many others by now), but when it comes to baby sleeping WITH a cat... you really don't want the baby on it's back where the cat could lay across her entire face (kinda makes sense that way). Most people don't consider the cat in the bed fact when they advise you to keep baby on back or belly. Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/ http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Adopt a FELV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of difference for that one animal. ~~~ I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life. Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula! PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.7/160 - Release Date: 11/3/2005
Re: good cat story/Terrie's response
Terrie, I am so proud of you!!! You are amazing and deserve to take a little break!!! HUGS[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How sweet and honorable of Boo-Boo! That's a Siamese for ya! Nah just kidding! I believe all cats when there is a need they are therefor you. I have to tellyou allthis! I have a personal kitty that is a Blue PT Ragamuffin, his name is Boo-Boo too. Itis my nickname for him even though his name real name Blue. He only knows Boo-Boo so when I call him Blue he knows he is in deep doodoo. He was part of my rescue effort of over 200 Ragamuffins here in WA. state froma Hoarder/Breeder situation. Everyone was sick andunderweight. You name it these kitties had it all (illnesses) but I'm glad to say no one died which surprise the hell out of me. Believe it or not none tested positive for Felv/Fiv. I'm glad to say all I have left now are 3YAY!!! Everyone has been adopted but them. They are listed on my Petfinder for those that are interested. I stated if I can pull this rescue effort off, I can do anything! Guess what it's happening only 3 left! Will take a little break from rescue for a day or two. Get my thoughts together. Will still have one ear open to those needing rescued. Sorry to drag this on just wanted to talk about it briefly. Thanks for reading! In a message dated 11/3/2005 6:06:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I was a baby, my parents had a siamese cat named Boo-Boo. my parents were of of course worried about how we would interact. He would lay under my crib every night to watch over me and one night i actually got out of my crib and fell down the stairs to the basement. As the story goes Boo-Boo ran into my parents room after this had happened and dug his claws into my dads chest and gave one of those shreik siamese meows to awaken my parents. He then led them to the stairs in the basement where my parents had found me at the bottom of the stairs. If it wasn't for Boo- Boo i probably would have laid down there all night. Terrie MohrTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
Re: was intro now is health issues
Smoky used to play so hard he'd pant. His favorite game was with an interactive toy and he would do backflips etc trying to catch the ball on the end of the string. And I could get him doing those tight pivot circles:) And more than once, during a break for him to pant, he would be so ticked off at the toy that he'd punctuate his panting with hissing!!! "pant pant pant HI pant pant HIS" It was sooo funny! My sister's old kitty Tessa had some post-playing panting/wheezing, but she also had asthma. I would just monitor it and if it changes from simple panting after hard exercise to wheezing or out of breath when just doing quiet stuff then I would have a vet check him out.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sandy! Keep asking away! That's what this group is for! :)I can try to give you a little advice about #2 and #3 (and #4, if I remember!)...As for diet, try to stick with foods made with human grade ingredients with meat being listed as the first ingredient (alot of commercial foods have corn meal listed as the first ingredient because it's cheap...not only can animals be allergic to corn meal, but, generally speaking, they just can't digest corn meal properly--plus, the carbohydrates contribute to obesity)...Most of these ultra-premium foods aren't found at the grocery store or Petsmart (although Nutro isn't a bad option)...I go to a local kennel to pick up my dry food (Innova Evo) and drive all the way down to a vet in Galveston to pick up their canned food (Wellness)...here are their websites if you want to do more research: www.naturapet.com and www.omhpet.com. Their are others out their, as well...Eagle Pack, Wysong...If you go to www.petfooddirect.com and check out their food section, they've got several, high-quality foods...you just have to check out the labels closely! Personally, I've chosen foods that contain no grains at all...just meat, veggies and fruit...and my guys are doing great! Raw food diets are also another option...you can cook them yourself (I don't have much experience with this one) or, some places carry frozed, prepared raw food diets. I've tried Nature's Variety frozen raw food patties...most of my guys like it (one in particular), but they get bored with it after awhile...so I just switch around a bit! Just do a google search with something like "bad commercial pet food" and you'll get several articles pertaining to what's actually in common commercial pet foods...ick! ;)And as for his mouth...sounds like stomatitis! It's another disease that with take advantage of an FeLV+ cat's weakened immune system...our Pips had it pretty bad...he was finally, successfully treated with Zithromax (and antibiotic). But depending on the severity and whether or not it responds to medications at all, sometimes, the only option is to pull teeth (our vet actually pulled several of Pips' teeth while she was cleaning them). Just keep an eye on them, stomatitis can make eating painful!And as for the panting after playing, that sounds fairly normal to me...I've got a couple of cats (both + and -) who play so hard that they just wear themselves out and start gasping for air (panting)! ;) But, of course, when you're dealing with FeLV, you'll want to keep an eye on that...it's when he's having trouble breathing while just resting when you need to worry. It just sounds like he's an aggressive player (like most kittens)! :)Hope some of this helps! You'll get plenty of more advice from others!!Jen"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan George- Original Message -From: Dudes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Wednesday, November 2, 2005 10:48 pmSubject: was intro now is health issues I sure hope you all don't get tired of my newbie questions. If anyone would rather email me to discuss off list, I would welcome it, at least point me in the right direction so I can read up on them to help educate myself. I feel like there is much to know, and I am a sponge. So (deep breathe) here I go My questions are about my little guy Cotton, the + orange kitten who's about 8 months old. 1. I was telling Jen off list that he has some really awful smellinglitterbox deposits, which are much like diarrhea. When we go to the NEW vet, we will check him for parasites, and anything else that might cause this, like a bacteria. Jen clued me in to a few other things that might be causing this, and what might help. I will definitely mention these things to the vet as well. Right now we are just adding yogurt to his canned food, which seems to be helping.
Re: good cat story/Terrie's response
Wow! What a wonderful story! I looked up some pictures of Ragamuffins on the web and they are beautiful cats!!! --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How sweet and honorable of Boo-Boo! That's a Siamese for ya! Nah just kidding! I believe all cats when there is a need they are there for you. I have to tell you all this! I have a personal kitty that is a Blue PT Ragamuffin, his name is Boo-Boo too. It is my nickname for him even though his name real name Blue. He only knows Boo-Boo so when I call him Blue he knows he is in deep doodoo. He was part of my rescue effort of over 200 Ragamuffins here in WA. state from a Hoarder/Breeder situation. Everyone was sick and underweight. You name it these kitties had it all (illnesses) but I'm glad to say no one died which surprise the hell out of me. Believe it or not none tested positive for Felv/Fiv. I'm glad to say all I have left now are 3YAY!!! Everyone has been adopted but them. They are listed on my Petfinder for those that are interested. I stated if I can pull this rescue effort off, I can do anything! Guess what it's happening only 3 left! Will take a little break from rescue for a day or two. Get my thoughts together. Will still have one ear open to those needing rescued. Sorry to drag this on just wanted to talk about it briefly. Thanks for reading! In a message dated 11/3/2005 6:06:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I was a baby, my parents had a siamese cat named Boo-Boo. my parents were of of course worried about how we would interact. He would lay under my crib every night to watch over me and one night i actually got out of my crib and fell down the stairs to the basement. As the story goes Boo-Boo ran into my parents room after this had happened and dug his claws into my dads chest and gave one of those shreik siamese meows to awaken my parents. He then led them to the stairs in the basement where my parents had found me at the bottom of the stairs. If it wasn't for Boo- Boo i probably would have laid down there all night. Terrie Mohr TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Owner/Driver Check sites for available Siameses for adoption! http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html Petfinder.com Adopt a Homeless Pet! http://www.petfinder.com/ http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.petloss.com/ TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS https://www.paypal.com/ __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
RE: Animal Communication
I have a couple of them, but I have been using Jasmine Indra who lives in Main - I really like her, and I think Nina on the list likes her, too - Many many ACs are so busy and I have a hard time to get a hold of most them, and I am usually not patient to wait since most of the time when I need them, is urgent (sick kitty or missing kitty) - Jasmine has been very accommodating to me every time and she is a very wonderful person as well. The very first time I talked to Jasmine, it was about one of the feral kitties that I and my neighbour were feeding for many many years... we used to see him every day.. and did not see him just for a couple of days and I got worried and contacted Jasmine and another ACs - they both told me that he has crossed the bridge two days ago from the day I spoke with them from a long term illness like a cancer.. but they also both told me that he had a very good life and is at a very good peaceful place... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 3:18 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Animal Communication Hideyo- Thank you for the wonderful information. Very neat about your sister. I do believe people can be psychic. Seen too many things that are otherwise unexplainable. Are your AC's in Texas? :) Wendy __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: was intro now is health issues
Jen, thank you again! I'm not sure really how to choose from any of these cat foods I've never heard of, but I will definitely get busy reading about them. Sandy - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 8:26 AM Subject: Re: was intro now is health issues Hi Sandy! Keep asking away! That's what this group is for! :) I can try to give you a little advice about #2 and #3 (and #4, if I remember!)...As for diet, try to stick with foods made with human grade ingredients with meat being listed as the first ingredient (alot of commercial foods have corn meal listed as the first ingredient because it's cheap...not only can animals be allergic to corn meal, but, generally speaking, they just can't digest corn meal properly-- plus, the carbohydrates contribute to obesity)...Most of these ultra- premium foods aren't found at the grocery store or Petsmart (although Nutro isn't a bad option)...I go to a local kennel to pick up my dry food (Innova Evo) and drive all the way down to a vet in Galveston to pick up their canned food (Wellness)...here are their websites if you want to do more research: www.naturapet.com and www.omhpet.com. Their are others out their, as well...Eagle Pack, Wysong...If you go to www.petfooddirect.com and check out their food section, they've got several, high-quality foods...you just have to check out the labels closely! Personally, I've chosen foods that contain no grains at all...just meat, veggies and fruit...and my guys are doing great! Raw food diets are also another option...you can cook them yourself (I don't have much experience with this one) or, some places carry frozed, prepared raw food diets. I've tried Nature's Variety frozen raw food patties...most of my guys like it (one in particular), but they get bored with it after awhile...so I just switch around a bit! Just do a google search with something like bad commercial pet food and you'll get several articles pertaining to what's actually in common commercial pet foods...ick! ;) And as for his mouth...sounds like stomatitis! It's another disease that with take advantage of an FeLV+ cat's weakened immune system...our Pips had it pretty bad...he was finally, successfully treated with Zithromax (and antibiotic). But depending on the severity and whether or not it responds to medications at all, sometimes, the only option is to pull teeth (our vet actually pulled several of Pips' teeth while she was cleaning them). Just keep an eye on them, stomatitis can make eating painful! And as for the panting after playing, that sounds fairly normal to me...I've got a couple of cats (both + and -) who play so hard that they just wear themselves out and start gasping for air (panting)! ;) But, of course, when you're dealing with FeLV, you'll want to keep an eye on that...it's when he's having trouble breathing while just resting when you need to worry. It just sounds like he's an aggressive player (like most kittens)! :) Hope some of this helps! You'll get plenty of more advice from others!! Jen But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. -- Chief Dan George - Original Message - From: Dudes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, November 2, 2005 10:48 pm Subject: was intro now is health issues I sure hope you all don't get tired of my newbie questions. If anyone would rather email me to discuss off list, I would welcome it, at least point me in the right direction so I can read up on them to help educate myself. I feel like there is much to know, and I am a sponge. So (deep breathe) here I go My questions are about my little guy Cotton, the + orange kitten who's about 8 months old. 1. I was telling Jen off list that he has some really awful smellinglitterbox deposits, which are much like diarrhea. When we go to the NEW vet, we will check him for parasites, and anything else that might cause this, like a bacteria. Jen clued me in to a few other things that might be causing this, and what might help. I will definitely mention these things to the vet as well. Right now we are just adding yogurt to his canned food, which seems to be helping. 2. I'd love to talk to someone who has time to go into detail about a really good diet for Cotton, because I believe Cotton may have some deficiencies. But how does one determine that? He seems to eat strange things, and he steals people food. He could go trick-or-treating disguised as a Hoover vacuum cleaner, because he's that
Re: was intro now is health issues
Good to know that panting is most likely normal. I guess I just worry a lot. My other 3 adult cats are definitely lounge lizards compared to Cotton. He just always feels so much warmer than the other cats do, so the panting made me think he might be overheating. Sandy - Original Message - From: Barb Moermond To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 10:12 AM Subject: Re: was intro now is health issues Smoky used to play so hard he'd pant. His favorite game was with an interactive toy and he would do backflips etc trying to catch the ball on the end of the string. And I could get him doing those tight pivot circles:) And more than once, during a break for him to pant, he would be so ticked off at the toy that he'd punctuate his panting with hissing!!! "pant pant pant HI pant pant HIS" It was sooo funny! My sister's old kitty Tessa had some post-playing panting/wheezing, but she also had asthma. I would just monitor it and if it changes from simple panting after hard exercise to wheezing or out of breath when just doing quiet stuff then I would have a vet check him out.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sandy! Keep asking away! That's what this group is for! :)I can try to give you a little advice about #2 and #3 (and #4, if I remember!)...As for diet, try to stick with foods made with human grade ingredients with meat being listed as the first ingredient (alot of commercial foods have corn meal listed as the first ingredient because it's cheap...not only can animals be allergic to corn meal, but, generally speaking, they just can't digest corn meal properly--plus, the carbohydrates contribute to obesity)...Most of these ultra-premium foods aren't found at the grocery store or Petsmart (although Nutro isn't a bad option)...I go to a local kennel to pick up my dry food (Innova Evo) and drive all the way down to a vet in Galveston to pick up their canned food (Wellness)...here are their websites if you want to do more research: www.naturapet.com and www.omhpet.com. Their are others out their, as well...Eagle Pack, Wysong...If you go to www.petfooddirect.com and check out their food section, they've got several, high-quality foods...you just have to check out the labels closely! Personally, I've chosen foods that contain no grains at all...just meat, veggies and fruit...and my guys are doing great! Raw food diets are also another option...you can cook them yourself (I don't have much experience with this one) or, some places carry frozed, prepared raw food diets. I've tried Nature's Variety frozen raw food patties...most of my guys like it (one in particular), but they get bored with it after awhile...so I just switch around a bit! Just do a google search with something like "bad commercial pet food" and you'll get several articles pertaining to what's actually in common commercial pet foods...ick! ;)And as for his mouth...sounds like stomatitis! It's another disease that with take advantage of an FeLV+ cat's weakened immune system...our Pips had it pretty bad...he was finally, successfully treated with Zithromax (and antibiotic). But depending on the severity and whether or not it responds to medications at all, sometimes, the only option is to pull teeth (our vet actually pulled several of Pips' teeth while she was cleaning them). Just keep an eye on them, stomatitis can make eating painful!And as for the panting after playing, that sounds fairly normal to me...I've got a couple of cats (both + and -) who play so hard that they just wear themselves out and start gasping for air (panting)! ;) But, of course, when you're dealing with FeLV, you'll want to keep an eye on that...it's when he's having trouble breathing while just resting when you need to worry. It just sounds like he's an aggressive player (like most kittens)! :)Hope some of this helps! You'll get plenty of more advice from others!!Jen"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan George- Original Message -From: Dudes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Wednesday, November 2, 2005 10:48 pmSubject: was intro now is health issues I sure hope you all don't get tired of my newbie questions. If anyone would rather email me to discuss off
Re: good cat story/Terrie's response
Good for you Terrie!! Enjoy your success and your 'down' time! (If you actually have down time when you consider your own cats!) t jpgJMrCRS9mJA.jpg Description: JPEG image jpgcQPVuuLZ7a.jpg Description: JPEG image
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Thanks! Well, in a sense I will have some downtime but not much. I have 11 personal cats and 4 ferals. Oh yeah and 2 Collies! In a message dated 11/3/2005 8:19:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good for you Terrie!! Enjoy your success and your 'down' time! (If you actually have down time when you consider your own cats!) t Terrie MohrTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/
