Re: Heart Murmur
Rebecca~ Did vet say what "grade" the heart murmur is??? Many animal\s, and people NORMALLY have a heart murmur of some degree, and, often, cause no problems. I was diagnosed with a heart murmur at age 2... My parents panicked, scared I;d die or develop coronary related problems. Well, I am 50 now, have had MANY, MANY surgeries, and I am probably healthier than the average human. My little dog Dukie, was diagnosed w/ a Grade 4 at 6 mos. I DID have him neutered, as he got older, he had dentals, and he lived to be 19 1/2 years old!! and...it wasn;t his heart that was his demise, but his kidneys. Neutering a cat, even Felv=, is ALWAYS bebeficial...it prevents further relted problems down the road, As for anesthesia, it is a risk. BUT!!! DO NOT ALLOW VET TO USE INJECTABLE agents like telazol, ketamine, xylazine and that white stuff, begins with "P". Insist on pre-sx IV valium, and use of isoflourane, (gas). with incubation. INSIST that Brooklyn is hooked up administered IV fluids DURING surgery, and for the next 24 hours POST-surgery. This will "Flush" out the anesthesia. They can also administer yohombine (sp?), or another drug to "reverse" the anesthesu=ia, and bring him out of it quicker You MUST be an informed guardian Also, it is common with many felv and FIV cats to have gingivitis..It can be treated VERY successfully with antirobe(clindamycin), some cats may have to be on it long term , but it DOES work!! Ask him to try that first What are you treating his eyes with? Ointment? Drops? With or without steroids? Has allergies or "dry" eye" been ruled out? Too many Weird things here that are bothering me about your vet Did he say Brooklyn needs an echocardiogram?? Unless his murmur is a very HIGH grade, and THAT you would notice, I just don't understand... I would DEFINITELY see another Felv+ friendly) vet ASAP for some answers... Sure, all this could be secondary to the virus, but then why do so many HEALTHY cats also have these problems?? I'm a bit miffed...your vet seems to br sending you "negative" reports... Rebecca, please try the antirobe. Find out what grade the murmur is? And, is the eye Infected:, as with colored discharge, or just clear teary looking? And, definitely, neutering, or any surgery, using the guidelines I suggested (MALL my vets do this), will make Brooklyn a happier healthier cat in the long run... Please update Hugs, Patti '
Fwd: OT - Baltimore, MD rescues?/el
In a message dated 1/31/06 9:17:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok, now, there is Animal Rescue - contact- Joy Lumpkin, its at the end of 83 on the Maryland/PA line: PO Box 35 Maryland Line, MD 21105 (717) 993-3232 This website will give you links and contact info. for rescues in Maryland: http://www.adoptablepets.net/mdpets.html I don't have first hand knowledge of most of the rescues on this site, so use your head and your heart when investigating. Good luck. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. T ONE OF THE BEST NO-KILL SANCTUARIES IN US, NOT ONLY EAST COAST... Joy is semi retired. Contact Clare Sweeney at Main Shelter in Pa. (717)993-3232 **WARNING: VERY LONG WAITING N LIST!!! ---BeginMessage--- There are plenty of Baltimore area rescues, but good luck ever getting an animal in one. I'll list the ones I know of below, BUT word of warning first: There are several well meaning "collectors" also, so you really want to check any one who offers to help out firsteven if the person comes highly recommended by one or several other rescuesTRUST ME!First, the Baltimore area rescue to STAY CLEAR OF: Defenders of Animal Rights, Inc, a.k.a. Adopt A Pet in Phoenix, MD. Yes the shelter is beautiful, yes they say all the right things, yes they ask for a donation in order to drop an animal off, but more likely than not that animal will be dead before you get back in your caror shortly there after..The shelter never appears full, but I can tell you first hand that's NOT because they are so good at adopting animals out. (That's not to say that they don't do some good work, but I've seen first hand...have first hand experience behind the scenes...) Stay Clear! (I have noterized affidavidsfrom several people who worked there if you don't believe me.)If you are trying to place a felv+ cat, be forewarned that there is a "red-flag" on Ranch Hope, as far as I am concerned. The place looks beautiful, there is a life-long monthly fee charged for placing an animal there, but quite by accident I found out that many of the animals placed in there care are farmed-out to an over-burdened woman, with failing healthwho is assoc. with many rescues and has a farm with hundreds of dogs/cats, (she admitted to not knowing how many she had on site) etcShe tries, but the place, well lets just say every time I see on the news about a raid on a collecter, I look to see if it is her. She has a wonderful heart, but doesn't know when to say when, (has difficulties keeping up with the basic cleaning and amitted she gets no financial help from Ranch Hope (and was surprised to learn that they charged such a high monthly maitenance fee from people leaving animals...esp when so many wind up with her.)YOUR BETTER BETS:Ok, now, there is Animal Rescue - contact- Joy Lumpkin, its at the end of 83 on the Maryland/PA line: PO Box 35 Maryland Line, MD 21105 (717) 993-3232This website will give you links and contact info. for rescues in Maryland: http://www.adoptablepets.net/mdpets.htmlI don't have first hand knowledge of most of the rescues on this site, so use your head and your heart when investigating. Good luck. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody know any Baltimore rescues? I just talked to an 86 year old lady, just had some mini-strokes, and is feeding 9 outdoor cats in the north part of Baltimore. She also talked about the neighbors letting a little doggie out at night. I said, can't you call the city or a rescue? She's too infirm to know about that sort of thing.Anyhow - I'm looking for some support for her and her animals. I will, btw, look in Petfinder - just thought I'd check you guys out.Thanks,Gloria Do you Yahoo!? With a free 1 GB, there's more in store with Yahoo! Mail. ---End Message---
Re: Heart Murmur
Rebecca, I understand why you would be concerned with this vet report. It seems like you've gotten a bunch of bad news from this visit. Please don't panic. Let's take this stuff one at a time. In order of scariness... The heart murmur... Patti is right, (I agree with her whole post), you need to know what grade the heart murmur is. Gracie had a heart murmur too. It never gave her a moments trouble. My beloved Siberian Husky, Vixen, was diagnosed with a heart murmur when she was a pup, again, it never gave her any problems. Vixen lived to be 11 and she succumbed to a brain tumor, her passing had nothing to do with her heart. I have heard good things about supplementing with Co-Q10 for heart murmurs/problems. Check it out. One thing I have heard about Co-Q10 is that it shouldn't be stopped abruptly, maybe you could do some research on that and let us know what you find out. I would find a different vet and talk to them about your concerns in getting Wow neutered. The stress of an intact Tom, (those coursing hormones do make their lives more stressful!), might be worth it to you to have him neutered, even if he's indoor only. A female in heat, anywhere in the vicinity will cause him to become an outdoor cat in nothing flat. All of my animals, including my felv cats were spay/neutered, everyone did fine. You may have read some of my posts about Starman. He's tested FIV+ and has had lung congestion and runny eyes since he showed up. I couldn't even attempt to acclimate him to the household while he had his pom poms, because he was just too hostile to my other cats, (not to mention his excitability causing him stress and making it harder to tame up). I finally brought him in yesterday and while I was nervous about it all day, he came through his operation just fine. Lastly, the gingivitis... Most of our felv kitties show signs of one degree or another of gingivitis. Grace and Jazz had red lined gums most of their lives. I didn't brush their teeth, but I did clean Grace's teeth gently by dipping a Qtip in an oral rinse and running it along her gum lines. Keeping their teeth clean helps to keep it under control. If I were you, I'd look for a board certified Internist that is felv friendly, meaning they don't automatically write off treating a felv + cat just because of their status. Your Wowie is doing fine, you're on top of things and he's happy and content. Take a deep breath and find someone that isn't going to scare the crap out of you when they discover your kitty is displaying typical felv + symptoms. What supps do you have Brooklyn on now? Nina veggiepugs wrote: Well I took Wowie (Brooklyn) to the vet today for his eye infection, which I am now treating, and the dr said to me He's not neutered!! I said well, last I was here, I was told he was at more risk under anesthesia being FeLV+ so I am hesitant. Asked me if he was an indoor cat I said yes, he said his urine must stink. Actually, I said, he is very good with the litterbox and I keep it clean so, no. Like as if that's more important than his risks under anesthesia. THEN he tells me, He has a heart murmur. So i say out loud Even MORE of a reason for me not to put him under!!! Am I wrong not to neuter him? He's strictly indoor. Am I putting him at risk for more illness? Or am I playing it safe? So, now he has a heart murmur and I'm wondering why they didn't catch this OR the fact that they told me today that he has gingivitis, at his last visit a month and a half ago. They looked in his mouth and listened to his heart so what the heck? Dr says I need to have him get an echocardiogram. Said the murmur and the eye infection AND the gingivitis could be secondary to felv. I'm worried. But wowie is still happy and doing well, any words of advice/guidance? I have to start brushing his teeth too. Thanks Rebecca
Re: Heart Murmur
I know you meant INTUBATION- I've discovered that Persians (and other flat nosed kitties) need to be intubated. My lovely Persian kitten was not intubated and if she had been would be here today. I think it's a good idea for any flat-faced cat, or animal with weakness that might need that extra help with breathing when anesthetized.Thanks for the summary - that's helpful to me.GloriaOn Feb 1, 2006, at 2:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Insist on pre-sx IV valium, and use of isoflourane, (gas). with incubation
Heart Murmur
Since the vet has discover a heart murmur, a echocardiogram is necessary to determine what is causing it. Depending on what is causing the heart murmur and how minor or major the cause is, will determine if they can do surgery and what type of anesthesia the cat can get. The echocardiogram is only necessary if your cat needs surgery of any type! Most vets will strongly suggest the echocardiogram if you considering surgery. At the same time, the vets will tell you if you do the surgery without the echocardiogram, they cannot be responsibly if any complications happen during or after the surgery. Some anesthesia can cause further health complications (temporary or permanent) after surgery depending on what is causing the heart murmur. In the past year, my own personal cat and a rescue dog that I was taking care of had heart murmurs. This is the information that I gathered from my experiences with them. I would wait until Wowie gets over his eye infection before considering any type of surgery. Since I do rescue, I am never sure if a cat is going to come up positive for FIV or FeLV when they go in to be spayed or neutered. My biggest concern when taking them in is that they are not sick from anything like a URI. An eye infection would make me hold off doing any type of surgery. The few cats that have come up FeLV+ and got spayed or neutered, did not get sick afterwards. Two of them were females and spaying is more stressful because they have to open up the females' bodies. Males have it so much easily because the reproduction parts are outside of the body. I take my cats and dogs to a low cost spay and neutered facility. They test the cats prior to surgery for FIV and FeLV. Then they do the spays or neuters right afterwards. Also, They are on a time schedule and they do males first. It is so much easier to neutered males and it only takes three minutes to neutered the males. My apologies in advance if I missed something. I am a new member of only about a week. So they could be something I missed like how long you had Wowie and his previous illnesses. Good luck! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Heart Murmur
All this about heart murmurs has come at a good time for me. I have a 15-year-old kitty, feleuk negative, who I took to the vet because he looked, for lack of a better description, like he was pregnant and ready to pop. The vet diagnosed a heart murmur - I didn't know enough to ask many questions, but have learned more here. He is on .5mg Lasix twice a day. For the first couple of days he seemed smaller but after that, for the last two weeks, he has looked large again. I really took him in fearing FIP, but a tap of the fluid showed clear. My vet said it had to be a right heart problem rather than left (I think I have that straight) because if it were left heart he would be having trouble breathing. I don't know how to judge how uncomfortable he is at this point. He eats, cuddles up with me at night and purrs - no difference in behavior, just appearance. Guess I need to talk to the vet again about the fact that he doesn't seem to be staying "down" in size. I understand that the fluid was produced by his body to put pressure on his heart to keep it beating ok - I think that is right - I am totally new to heart problems. And that if the fluid were, say, drained off all at once, then he'd really have a problem. Any suggestions or input on how to proceed or things I need to ask. Thanks, all.tamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Heart murmurs can develop at any stage of life, but, should be seriously monitored and treated if it continues to get worse. My Quintapus was diagnosed with a heart murmur only after he had a bit of a heart attack at age 2. I took him to a cariologist and it turned out he had cardiomyopathy (hardening of the heart). Dr. gave him meds and an estimate of approx. 3 yrs. of life left. Quintie just died last March at the ripe age of 12. With medication and proper monitoring heart murmurs can be controled.As for the neuturing...if Wowie doesn't go outside at all (nor try to get out), and all your other animals are fixedits strickly your decision. You know your cat best. Don't let someone else bully you into making a decision you aren't comfortable with...because if something should (not that it will) go wrong, you'll have difficulty forgiving yourself. FYI, Quint did have dentals during his life which require "putting him out" and he did fine, even with the heart murmur and renal failure. (It was a blood clot that finally did him in.)veggiepugs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I took Wowie (Brooklyn) to the vet today for his eye infection, which I am now treating, and the dr said to me "He's not neutered!!" I said well, last I was here, I was told he was at more risk under anesthesia being FeLV+ so I am hesitant. Asked me if he was an indoor cat I said yes, he said his urine must stink. Actually, I said, he is very good with the litterbox and I keep it clean so, no. Like as if that's more important than his risks under anesthesia. THEN he tells me, "He has a heart murmur". So i say out loud "Even MORE of a reason for me not to put him under!!!" Am I wrong not to neuter him? He's strictly indoor. Am I putting him at risk for more illness? Or am I playing it safe? So, now he has a heart murmur and I'm wondering why they didn't catch this OR the fact that they told me today that he has gingivitis, at his last visit a month and a half ago. They looked in his mouth and listened to his heart so what the heck? Dr says I need to have him get an echocardiogram. Said the murmur and the eye infection AND the gingivitis could be secondary to felv. I'm worried. But wowie is still happy and doing well, any words of advice/guidance? I have to start brushing his teeth too.ThanksRebecca Bring words and photos together (easily) withPhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.
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Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 13, Issue 1
Patti and Nina- Quickly I just have to point out that pom poms had me laughing pretty hard...now onto the big stuff... As far as Wowie's eye issue goes, it didn't look TERRIBLE but something was off with it, because he was squinting with his right eye and the upper and lower lid looked bright pink. No, there was no discharge cloudy or otherwise, but his eye was teary. It just looked swollen though because it was kind of closed and the other looked fine. The dr gave me ointment, I'm not sure of the name, it's in a yellow tube, which he told me to treat BOTH eyes with because he said it can catch from one eye to the other. It doesn't look infected, but I wanted to nip it in the bud in case it was something serious I didnt want to wait. I'm kicking myself and so upset for doing that already with my rabbit because stopped stopped eating on Monday night and I said, if she's not eating tomorrow, I'm calling the vet. I came home for lunch yesterday and she was gone. She had only just passed beacuse when i picked her up, she was still warm. I spent my entire lunch break crying and hugging her. Had her cremated last night. But that's another story, I'm going to start crying if I get into it any further and Im at work. Needless to say, yesterday was NOT a good day between that and me being panicked about Wowie. I agree I need to find a new vet and I have already made an appointment with a widely renouned(sp?) vet named Jennifer Saver. She was EXCELLENT with my rabbits and small animals and specializes in small animals and bigtime with cats. I can't believe I didn't think of it. I had to go to this vet I'm goign to because I've been going through a VERY rough time financially and they were the only vets who accepted care credit. I have some extra cash coming in now though and I want to go see her. She's calling me back this evening so I can talk to her before I go see her, about Wowie. From the caring and compassion she showed when my guinea pig Pipsqueak died, I have always felt comfortable with her. Her practice is called Catnip and Carrots and she specializes first and foremost in Cats and Rabbits, also sees other small animals. She does NOT see dogs. Anyhow I got an appointment for a second opinion with her on Saturday the 11th. I am actually excited to talk to her because I am sure she will be the one to care for Wowie's health as it should be and guide me on being a more knowledgeable and good guardian to Wowie just as you all have. Thank you SO much. NO, he did not say anything about grades of heart murmurs and I wouldn't have known anything about it if I hadn't read your posts. I will definitely keep you posted! Thank you SO much! Hugs, Rebecca
RE: Heart Murmur
Rebecca did you find out the grade level of his hear murmur My Hannibal has a low grade heart murmur level 2 but I needed to have my vet pull his tooth (he couldnt eat and was miserable) and he was anesthetized and everything went ok I agree with Tamara, its strictly your decision. I have one FeLk kitty, Ginger, I have not spayed yet because of the same concern. She is very fragile, and want to make sure when I spay her, I will run a blood work for her total body function, and make sure that she is not too anemic (which she has been) and all her organ is working fine. I did have my the other Felk kitty, Tsubomi spayed recently mainly I thought she was pregnant,, but she is much stronger than Ginger too, she is completely healthy, her HCT was over 40 and I am very grateful of her strength. Rebecca, you really dont need to decide whether you should neuter him or not right now.. its probably more questions of when you can take your time and think about it,, and when you do it, make sure that he is in the perfect condition and make sure to run a blood work and and see if his heart murmur has gone down or vice versa and ask your vet not to use anything but ISO gas anesthesia and no injectables at all you would be amazed difference between recovery when you only use ISO gas.. and also injectable sedatives can cause more complications.. so I never use any injectable at all and ask them to monitor his heart rate all the time, and have them give him fluid during surgery.. and ask your vet to do a surgery on his first and if he lets you wait, wait during the surgery, and as soon as he wakes up from anesthesia, bring him home so that he wont have to be stressed in a cage at the vet..again if and when you decide to neuter him..I by no means encouraging you to do so right now. Usually, vets are usually more optimistic when coming to neutering (since its very quick procedure), so if your vet is concerned, if I were you, I would probably wait for a few months to see how he does --- I lost my Suzi right after the spaying surgery.. all I know is that it was never losing her life, and thats probably why I am so hesitant to do a surgery for my Ginger I knew I would have eventually done when Suzi was a bit older or stronger.. but I did not wait so I am regretting it and will regret for the rest of my life. You sound like such a good mommy, Rebecca --- its not like he is pregnant (duhh..).. so really, there is no reason to rush.. dr. addie in University of Glasgow advised to me once, with any immune compromised animals, you will want to postpone neutering/spaying as long as possible.. not only due to a risk of anesthesia, stress can trigger the very illness that they may not showing any symptoms for and sometimes, we and other vets underestimate their emotional stress due to a surgery.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tamara stickler Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 7:27 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Heart Murmur Heart murmurs can develop at any stage of life, but, should be seriously monitored and treated if it continues to get worse. My Quintapus was diagnosed with a heart murmur only after he had a bit of a heart attack at age 2. I took him to a cariologist and it turned out he had cardiomyopathy (hardening of the heart). Dr. gave him meds and an estimate of approx. 3 yrs. of life left. Quintie just died last March at the ripe age of 12. With medication and proper monitoring heart murmurs can be controled. As for the neuturing...if Wowie doesn't go outside at all (nor try to get out), and all your other animals are fixedits strickly your decision. You know your cat best. Don't let someone else bully you into making a decision you aren't comfortable with...because if something should (not that it will) go wrong, you'll have difficulty forgiving yourself. FYI, Quint did have dentals during his life which require putting him out and he did fine, even with the heart murmur and renal failure. (It was a blood clot that finally did him in.) veggiepugs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I took Wowie (Brooklyn) to the vet today for his eye infection, which I am now treating, and the dr said to me He's not neutered!! I said well, last I was here, I was told he was at more risk under anesthesia being FeLV+ so I am hesitant. Asked me if he was an indoor cat I said yes, he said his urine must stink. Actually, I said, he is very good with the litterbox and I keep it clean so, no. Like as if that's more important than his risks under anesthesia. THEN he tells me, He has a heart murmur. So i say out loud Even MORE of a reason for me not to put him under!!! Am I wrong not to neuter him? He's strictly indoor. Am I putting him at risk for more illness? Or am I playing it safe? So, now he has a heart murmur and I'm wondering why they didn't catch this OR the fact that they told me today that he has
RE: Another disaster - update
Hi, everyone thank you for your prayers and encouragement I cant tell you how much you guys give me the energy to keep going --- sometimes, I just want to give up.. but I know that I am not going to let any of my babies down.. so I keep going, but you guys make it much easier for me to do.. Anyway, I called and confronted my ex neighbor nut lady and it turned out that it was not her who reported me this time --- but instead it was my the other neighbor guy, Chris, whom we thought were our friends the whole time he has three dogs with him, but he is concerned that his house value is going to go down because I have many cats (though I keep them all indoors) and also he is a neat freak --- he does not like the fact that I feed my feral in my back yard and he does not like the fact that I have traps and carriers in MY back yard (which has no visibility to the outside world as its all fenced in..) --- but he can see if from his upstairs balcony and has been peeking at it sort of I was stabbed on my back he did not really admit it,, but it now makes sense,, because he is a very good friend of the neighborhood guy who also made a call on me saying that I have 100 cats on the same day.. Anyway,, I went to also talk to him.. not to really accuse of him for anything because he was never going to admit that that was himbut if we can work any problems out just among us without making it a bigger deal than it isI would like to do everything I can to do that.. there are certain things I could and certain things I couldnt but I told him that we are neighbors and wanted him to come to me directly if he has any concerns.. and he said he will He is planning to sell his house soon.. hopefully he will soon and wont have to worry about this.. I think he is sort of type of person, who does not want certain ethnic people to live he is concerned about his house value is going to go down.. again.. I think he is perceiving my cats in a similar way.. their existence itself (thought they are not causing him any problems at all) annoy them I was very sad to find out because I feel betrayed a little bit but I just have to keep going to make sure that my babies are protected from people like him.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerry MacKenzie Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Another disaster Hideyo, you're the best, and I'm so so sorry you have these awful, revoltingpeople harassing you. Take Greg's advice is my advice. I hope you never hear from them again. Wish some of us lived near you. We're all rooting for you, you know that. love and hugs, Kerry - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:37 PM Subject: RE: Another disaster I know.. Greg thinks it should come from a lawyer one time she (Camille) hosed one of my neighbors dogs in a very cold winter because he barked a little bit (he was a small Scottish dog), anyway, my neighbor reported her to police for cruelty to animals and she backed down on her dogs.. she used to through sticks and rocks in my yard when I had dogs --- she hates dogs and thats how this whole thing got started. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Loesch Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Another disaster Hideyo, this is awful. Could your lawyer not write the letter to her - it seems to me that a letter from him would carry more weight. To the neighborhood guy, also. This is harassment. Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, everyone, someone (2 different reports) complaints about my cats again to the animal control today and they are completely false report and I am so mad and sad and scared at the same time. I am pretty sure that the person who made one of the complaints is the same person who did to create all this problem as it was still anonymous and she knew all the details which I doubt anyone else knows.. anyway,,, I think she had one of the really mean neighbors association of VP guy to also to call (because they were made on the same day, and how coincident is that?) --- anyway, the complaints are I have over 100 cats, and the smell of urine is so excessive and they are both lie! I asked the officer who came to investigate to tell me if he smells anything, he said not at all he was going to give me another citation for the violation on the number, and I asked him to talk to Director of Animal services as my case in on pending right now .. and he dismissed these climes. But I am soo scared that what this woman (Camille) is going to do to hurt me and hurt my cats she does not even live in this area anymore.. but she is so obsessed to hurt me. Making a false report is a felony and my criminal lawyer suggests that I write her a letter warning that
Re: Announcing...The first FeLV Talk Holistic and Regular Care for SickKitty Manual-written by YOU GUYS!!!
I would like one too! Thanks! [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 1/31/06, Kerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wendy, that's wonderful of you to do that. I would love one :[EMAIL PROTECTED] .Thank you! Kerry- Original Message -From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:36 PMSubject: Announcing...The first FeLV Talk Holistic and Regular Care forSickKitty Manual-written by YOU GUYS!!! Please email me if you would like me to send you a copy of The Holistic and Regular Care for Sick Kitty Manual.It's about 9 pages in a word document.I am very excited about it.It is basically a composition in glossary form of all the emails in the past four months on the FeLV talk boards regarding care for sick kitties, which means that all of us are the authors of the manual.I can't send it out generally like an email as it is too big and I don't think FeLV Talk allows attachments.I will send to each of you individually. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam?Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Terri B. and Terri M.
Yes! I got it! Thanks you! Terri B. - Original Message - From: wendy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 10:41 AM Subject: Terri B. and Terri M. I wanted to make sure that both of you received themanual. I couldn't find Terri M's email addy, and gotconfused, so I just sent this email to both of you. Let me know and thanks.:)Wendy--- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, When you get a chance, please look over the manual. Send me any updates, corrections, thoughts, additions that you feel are necessary to make the manual better. Some of the information I researched, but some I just took from our posts, so if you see something that might need changing, please email me and I will get to it. I figure in about another month I will send out the updated version. There are a lot of things that weren't touched on so feel free to email me whatever you would like added to it. And feel free to pass it on to anyone else you think might benefit from it (I'm assuming all of you are ok with this). Thanks! :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 13, Issue 1
Aww Rebecca, I'm so sorry about your bunny. They're such sweet, fragile creatures. Please try not to beat yourself up for not rushing her to the vet. She went so quick. She may have passed even with bringing her in and then you might have been beating yourself up thinking that it was the stress of the visit that sent her over. All we can do is the best we can do. Sometimes it's just not within our power to save our little friends. It sounds like you're on the right track in doing everything possible to ensure Wowie stays healthy. Let us know what happens with this new vet. Bless you sweetie, I'm so sorry about your Angel bunny, Nina veggiepugs wrote: Patti and Nina- Quickly I just have to point out that pom poms had me laughing pretty hard...now onto the big stuff... As far as Wowie's eye issue goes, it didn't look TERRIBLE but something was off with it, because he was squinting with his right eye and the upper and lower lid looked bright pink. No, there was no discharge cloudy or otherwise, but his eye was teary. It just looked swollen though because it was kind of closed and the other looked fine. The dr gave me ointment, I'm not sure of the name, it's in a yellow tube, which he told me to treat BOTH eyes with because he said it can catch from one eye to the other. It doesn't look infected, but I wanted to nip it in the bud in case it was something serious I didnt want to wait. I'm kicking myself and so upset for doing that already with my rabbit because stopped stopped eating on Monday night and I said, if she's not eating tomorrow, I'm calling the vet. I came home for lunch yesterday and she was gone. She had only just passed beacuse when i picked her up, she was still warm. I spent my entire lunch break crying and hugging her. Had her cremated last night. But that's another story, I'm going to start crying if I get into it any further and Im at work. Needless to say, yesterday was NOT a good day between that and me being panicked about Wowie. I agree I need to find a new vet and I have already made an appointment with a widely renouned(sp?) vet named Jennifer Saver. She was EXCELLENT with my rabbits and small animals and specializes in small animals and bigtime with cats. I can't believe I didn't think of it. I had to go to this vet I'm goign to because I've been going through a VERY rough time financially and they were the only vets who accepted care credit. I have some extra cash coming in now though and I want to go see her. She's calling me back this evening so I can talk to her before I go see her, about Wowie. From the caring and compassion she showed when my guinea pig Pipsqueak died, I have always felt comfortable with her. Her practice is called Catnip and Carrots and she specializes first and foremost in Cats and Rabbits, also sees other small animals. She does NOT see dogs. Anyhow I got an appointment for a second opinion with her on Saturday the 11th. I am actually excited to talk to her because I am sure she will be the one to care for Wowie's health as it should be and guide me on being a more knowledgeable and good guardian to Wowie just as you all have. Thank you SO much. NO, he did not say anything about grades of heart murmurs and I wouldn't have known anything about it if I hadn't read your posts. I will definitely keep you posted! Thank you SO much! Hugs, Rebecca
Angel Bunny
I'm so sorry about your bunny. It's never easy...and I know you loved her. Poor thing. Big hugs to you. Goodnight sweet bunny angel... =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome' =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 veggiepugs wrote:Patti and Nina-Quickly I just have to point out that "pom poms" had me laughing pretty hard...now onto the big stuff...As far as Wowie's eye issue goes, it didn't look TERRIBLE but something was off with it, because he was squinting with his right eye and the upper and lower lid looked bright pink. No, there was no discharge cloudy or otherwise, but his eye was teary. It just looked swollen though because it was kind of closed and the other looked fine. The dr gave me ointment, I'm not sure of the name, it's in a yellow tube, which he told me to treat BOTH eyes with because he said it can catch from one eye to the other. It doesn't look infected, but I wanted to nip it in the bud in case it was something serious I didnt want to wait. I'm kicking myself and so upset for doing that already with my rabbit because stopped stopped eating on Monday night and I said, if she's not eating tomorrow, I'm calling the vet. I came home for lunch yesterday and she was gone. She had only just passed beacuse when i picked her up, she was still warm. I spent my entire lunch break crying and hugging her. Had her cremated last night. But that's another story, I'm going to start crying if I get into it any further and I"m at work. Needless to say, yesterday was NOT a good day between that and me being panicked about Wowie. I agree I need to find a new vet and I have already made an appointment with a widely renouned(sp?) vet named Jennifer Saver. She was EXCELLENT with my rabbits and small animals and specializes in small animals and bigtime with cats. I can't believe I didn't think of it. I had to go to this vet I'm goign to because I've been going through a VERY rough time financially and they were the only vets who accepted care credit. I have some extra cash coming in now though and I want to go see her. She's calling me back this evening so I can talk to her before I go see her, about Wowie. From the caring and compassion she showed when my guinea pig Pipsqueak died, I have always felt comfortable with her. Her practice is called Catnip and Carrots and she specializes first and foremost in Cats and Rabbits, also sees other small animals. She does NOT see dogs. Anyhow I got an appointment for a second opinion with her on Saturday the 11th. I am actually excited to talk to her because I am sure she will be the one to care for Wowie's health as it should be and guide me on being a more knowledgeable and good guardian to Wowie just as you all have. Thank you SO much. NO, he did not say anything about grades of heart murmurs and I wouldn't have known anything about it if I hadn't read your posts. I will definitely keep you posted!Thank you SO much! Hugs,Rebecca
RE: Another disaster
Yesterday,, I went to his house (neighbourhood guy) with Greg to find out more about the report I knew he was at the house and knocked the door a couple of times but he decided not to answer the door so we left there and after we came back he had called and left me a message saying that he did not complain about the urine smell or anything like that (which the report say he did ) anyway, he said that you banged on my door and 30 mins ago so I called the police --- so I discourage you not to come my house and do that..otherwise I will call the police again --- he is such a control freak I just knocked the door since I did not see any door bell and he continued to say -- this can be handled on the phone or official meeting set up as the neighborhood association or court --- Greg talked to a few people on the neighborhood board, and it sounds like he is such a control freak power hungry.. and everyone hates him.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 6:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Another disaster Have you ever had any interaction with people on association boards? They are usually very lonely, ineffectual people looking for ways to push their insubstantial weight around. They have very little to do and take great pleasure nit picking the rules with people that don't enjoy arguing back. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, I see. I understand now. She is a nut who hates animals. Why do you think the neighborhood association guy weighed in? Michelle In a message dated 1/31/2006 3:37:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know.. Greg thinks it should come from a lawyer one time she (Camille) hosed one of my neighbors dogs in a very cold winter because he barked a little bit (he was a small Scottish dog), anyway, my neighbor reported her to police for cruelty to animals and she backed down on her dogs.. she used to through sticks and rocks in my yard when I had dogs --- she hates dogs and thats how this whole thing got started.
Re: Another disaster
I suggest you start carrying a tape recorder and consider putting one on your phone. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 5:46 PM Subject: RE: Another disaster Yesterday,, I went to his house (neighbourhood guy) with Greg to find out more about the report I knew he was at the house and knocked the door a couple of times but he decided not to answer the door so we left there and after we came back he had called and left me a message saying that he did not complain about the urine smell or anything like that (which the report say he did ) anyway, he said that you banged on my door and 30 mins ago so I called the police --- so I discourage you not to come my house and do that..otherwise I will call the police again --- he is such a control freak I just knocked the door since I did not see any door bell and he continued to say -- this can be handled on the phone or official meeting set up as the neighborhood association or court --- Greg talked to a few people on the neighborhood board, and it sounds like he is such a control freak power hungry.. and everyone hates him.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NinaSent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 6:54 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Another disaster Have you ever had any interaction with people on association boards? They are usually very lonely, ineffectual people looking for ways to push their insubstantial weight around. They have very little to do and take great pleasure nit picking the "rules" with people that don't enjoy arguing back.Nina[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, I see. I understand now. She is a nut who hates animals. Why do you think the neighborhood association guy weighed in? Michelle In a message dated 1/31/2006 3:37:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know.. Greg thinks it should come from a lawyer one time she (Camille) hosed one of my neighbors dogs in a very cold winter because he barked a little bit (he was a small Scottish dog), anyway, my neighbor reported her to police for cruelty to animals and she backed down on her dogs.. she used to through sticks and rocks in my yard when I had dogs --- she hates dogs and thats how this whole thing got started.
Re: Pekoe Update - Not Very Good News
Marlene my prayers are with you and Pekoe SherryMarlene Chornie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I got Pekoe's repeat blood test results today. Last week, his results (for comparison)were as follows: RBC - 6.0 (Normal Range - 6.2 - 10.6) HCT (or PCV) - 0.32 (0.28 - 0.49) MCV - 53 (39 - 52) Platelets - 5 (93 - 514) Smear agrees with machine platelet count MPV - 21.5 (8 - 21) Rubricyte Count - 0.37 (0.0 - 0.0) Today's results were:RBC - 4.9 (Normal Range - 6.2 - 10.6) HCT (or PCV) - 0.25 (0.28 - 0.49) MCH - 20 (13 - 17) MCHC - 387 (300 - 344) RDW - 25.0 (14 - 17) Platelets - 12 (93 - 514) Smear agrees with machine platelet count T.S. Protein - 59 (60 - 80) Rubricyte Count - 0.16 (0.0 - 0.0)Interpretation: Marked ongoing thrombocytopenia. Moderate anemia non-responsive. No toxic changes observed in neutrophils. There are no atypical cells. Many basket cells. Consider Bone Marrow evaluation. His PCR test for Hemobart finally came back, and it was Negative. His vet said she almost wished it had been positive (as did I). I met with our vet to discuss the test results. Some of his results (other than what I've listed) were either marginally improved, or marginally worse compared to last week's. We (hubby and I) are not considering a Bone Marrow evaluation - what would be the point in putting him through that? We can already pretty much assume that this is the result of the virus in his bone marrow. The question is now, what (if anything) can we do to help him? Our vet is looking into importing Virbagen Omega Interferon. We live in Canada, and I've been checking on it's availability here since last spring - when I'd read somewhere that the manufacturer anticipated it's licensing for use in Canada. Are there any other Canadians on this list besides me? Or do any of you have any information regarding it's availability here yet? Pekoe himself is pretty much "normal" - his appetite is good, litter box habits still good, he enjoys sitting on our laps, is still interested in what's going on around him, etc. The only difference in him is that he doesn't play as hard as before, he's still licking the concrete floor some in the basement, and he wants to be by himself curled up in the basement at various times throughout the day. He's currently on 10 mg. Prednisone twice a day - although the vet is going to get back to me about tapering the dose in view of his latest blood results. He was also on Doxycycline (for possible Hemobart), but I guess that's not necessary now. She also said that a blood transfusion may be an option, if his PCV gets too low. And to think that a week ago, all I was worried about was some possible dental work for him . I've Google - searched until I'm blue in the face trying to find out if Virbagen Omega Interferon is available for use in Canada! I was able to provide my vet with the name of a Senior Veterinary Biologics Evaluator, Veterinary Biologics Section, Canadian Food Inspection Agency. I had emailed this person last year inquiring about the availability of the drug, but all she was able to tell me was that it was "not yet licensed for veterinary use in Canada". Hopefully, my vet will be able to find out what I couldn't. All my feelings of anger are re-surfacing against the SPCA - if you recall, we adopted both Pekoe and Digby from them, and discovered (after the fact) that this particular shelter wasn't doing their job properly - then had the nerve to cop an "attitude" with us when Digby died! Sorry to babble on so - just upset .Marlene Pekoe Angel Digby Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on new and used cars.
Re: Frances
Hi Sherry, I will be sending good thoughts and prayers for Frances. Hugs and Head-Bumps, Karen in California and her Beautiful Maine Coon Cat Ms. Clyde In a message dated 2/1/2006 6:33:20 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all I need your power prayers for sweet Frances,she is one of the kitties at Crash's Landing,she has a failing liver.sheis actually one of the cats that doesn't have felv or fiv,but she needs our prayers just the same,I know I don't post much,but I know you wonderful people with put her in your prayers.Thank you all. Sherry
Re: Pekoe Update - Not Very Good News
Marlene, I only know enough about those test results to be scared for you and Pekoe. I wouldn't stop the Dox, Hemobart is notorious for not showing up on test results and it may just still help. How long have you had Pekoe on it? Grace's results were negative too and yet everytime she showed symptoms of anemia, (licking cement, getting lethargic, etc.), I'd put her on Dox and she'd snap back. The blood transfusion may be a good idea to help buy you time to try VO, or some other treatment. I know it gave Michelle's Simon and another list member, Kyle's Brissle, more quality time. I can't tell you how angry it makes me that the damn feline interferon is so hard to get! I've cut and pasted some posts in the hopes that something in them will help you and your vet get your hands on it quick. Here's a copy of the post for folks in the US looking to get a special dispensation for VO. Your vet could call my vet and see if she has any suggestions. My vet did say at one time that some vets are willing to order it without expressed approval, but if there were any problems in getting the drug in hand, the client would have to foot the cost, (Abbey Vet insists on being paid before they will ship). For anyone interested in starting the process of obtaining Feline Interferon, (Virbagen Omega)... My vet's liaison, Michelle Rose, at Veterinary Medical and Surgical Group in Ventura CA (805-339-2290)has made an "FDA packet" that she will fax out to anyone's vet who is interested in starting the special dispensation process. She says everything they need to know will be in there, and of course they can call her if there are further questions. Since only vets can apply, only they, or their offices should call. If she's not available, have your vet leave their voice and fax numbers on her voice mail. Once upon a time I was looking into Canada's approval and had a correspondence going with a woman, Emmanuelle Verrette, her email address as of 10/2004 was: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unfortunately, I can't remember exactly what agency she was associated with. Some sort of veterinary board of some kind. I think I may have passed on the info to you at the time, but I can't find the specifics. Here's a post from her that I received in early Nov of '04. Surely something has happened to make it more available since then: Hi Nina, I very happy that you will be able to get the Virbagen from the States to treat your kittens. I got great news too! First, the evaluator recommended that this product could be release "for emergency purposes". However, since Virbagen is considered a biologic, it will have to go through CFIA (Canadian Food Inspection Agency) for release, and I got a contact information for your veterinarian if she needs to get more Virbagen. The Virbagen would also be available through an ESC (Experimental Studies Certificate) if your vet is serious about doing a study on Virbagen with your FeLV group. Second, I learned that Health canada received an official submission From Virbac France for Virbagen to be approved here in Canada. The submission is currently under evaluation by the branch of Animal Products and Biologics of CFIA. If everything goes well, Virbagen could be available on the market very soon! Thank you for keeping updated and good luck with your kittens! Sincerely, Emmanuelle There was also a rumor about the University of Missouri selling VO to anyone's vet that requested it. Someone else said that they only sold to residents of the state... When I called. the person I talked to said they would sell it to any vet. Here's the copy of the email I sent to my vet after talking with the University: I've got good news and bad news. The good news is that it looks like the University of Missouri Veterinary Hospital's pharmacy is making Virbagen Omega, Feline Interferon, available to vets with a prescription. I called (573-882-7821) and spoke with a pharmacist named John, who while not very well informed, told me that it was indeed true. They are selling it by the vial, (I asked John if he meant the double vial of unconstituted FIO and the sterile saline, and he didn't know), they have the two sizes of 5mu and 10mu. Here's the bad news, they appear to have marked it up considerably. The price for the 5mu is $75.61 per vial, the 10mu, $117.16. When we ordered it directly from Abbey Vet in the UK, it was about $750 for 3 boxes, (5 vials per box), making the price closer to $50 each, with the price of shipping included. Wouldn't it be wonderful if John was confused and they're selling a box for $75 bucks?! I know, dream on. I asked John how they were able to do this without special dispensations from the FDA, and he pretty much just said, "I dunno". I of course called Michelle immediately with the news. Please let me know if you learn anything more about this.
Re: Frances
Sherry, I'm sorry to hear about Frances. Tell us more about her. How old is she? How long has she been having liver problems? What do her vets say about her chances? She and you are in my prayers. Nina Sherry DeHaan wrote: Hi all I need your power prayers for sweet Frances,she is one of the kitties at Crash's Landing,she has a failing liver.sheis actually one of the cats that doesn't have felv or fiv,but she needs our prayers just the same,I know I don't post much,but I know you wonderful people with put her in your prayers.Thank you all. Sherry Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, more on new and used cars.
Re: Frances
Ah Sherry, Rescue is not for sissys. I cry all the time. I was just crying into Starman's fur remembering a little kitten that came to me too late. It was years ago, but I'll never forget him. He was the first kitten that I couldn't save. I wish I understood more of the whys about life. It can be so damn hard. Hardest on the sweet innocents. I've been working on my lessons of acceptance, but it still ALWAYS hurts. The world needs more people like you who are willing to face the hardships, willing to love their way through them. Some of these sweet souls have come here to learn what it's like to be loved, loved enough to be cried over. Loved enough to be prayed for. Don't be too hard on yourself for not calling Frances' weight loss to anyone's attention sooner. It may, or may not have made any difference anyway, another hard lesson to learn and live with. Frances may just have saved someone else through your helping everyone at the shelter to be even more aware than they already are the next time. Shower that sweet girl with love, I'll be doing the same. Healing energy for Frances and coping energy for you. Miracles happen everyday, I'm praying for one for Frances and those that love her. Nina Sherry DeHaan wrote: Thank you Nina and everyone for your good thoughts and prayers.Jen the lady who runs Crash's and is also a vet says that she doesn't know if she can save her,I know she will do her best for her.She is about 6 years old they think.I feel so bad cause when I first started volunteering there I had noticed that she lost weight,by the pic they have of her on line,I didn't think anything of it at the time,but a lot of people missed it.She was still quite heavy when I saw her 2 weeks ago,but I guess she has lost half her weight since she arrived there in October,I started there in Nov,She was almost 16 pounds when she got there,now she is 8.5,we are trying to come up with some kind of system to always make note of anything out of the ordinary.which we pretty much do.But I hope the good lord will help us on this one.
Re: Pekoe Update - Not Very Good News
Keep banging away at every one, and don't rely on any one but your self to get results, as it is only you who cares so much. I had to change vets due to a lack of interest, in trying to help my cat Tabbs and I am still chasing around to make sure that every thing is being taken into consideration.Kindest Regards Sandra --- Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:From: Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 18:34:49 -0800 (PST)To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Pekoe Update - Not Very Good NewsMarlene my prayers are with you and Pekoe SherryMarlene Chornie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I got Pekoe's repeat blood test results today. Last week, his results (for comparison)were as follows: RBC - 6.0 (Normal Range - 6.2 - 10.6) HCT (or PCV) - 0.32 (0.28 - 0.49) MCV - 53 (39 - 52) Platelets - 5 (93 - 514) Smear agrees with machine platelet count MPV - 21.5 (8 - 21) Rubricyte Count - 0.37 (0.0 - 0.0) Today's results were:RBC - 4.9 (Normal Range - 6.2 - 10.6) HCT (or PCV) - 0.25 (0.28 - 0.49) MCH - 20 (13 - 17) MCHC - 387 (300 - 344) RDW - 25.0 (14 - 17) Platelets - 12 (93 - 514) Smear agrees with machine platelet count T.S. Protein - 59 (60 - 80) Rubricyte Count - 0.16 (0.0 - 0.0)Interpretation: Marked ongoing thrombocytopenia. Moderate anemia non-responsive. No toxic changes observed in neutrophils. There are no atypical cells. Many basket cells. Consider Bone Marrow evaluation. His PCR test for Hemobart finally came back, and it was Negative. His vet said she almost wished it had been positive (as did I). I met with our vet to discuss the test results. Some of his results (other than what I've listed) were either marginally improved, or marginally worse compared to last week's. We (hubby and I) are not considering a Bone Marrow evaluation - what would be the point in putting him through that? We can already pretty much assume that this is the result of the virus in his bone marrow. The question is now, what (if anything) can we do to help him? Our vet is looking into importing Virbagen Omega Interferon. We live in Canada, and I've been checking on it's availability here since last spring - when I'd read somewhere that the manufacturer anticipated it's licensing for use in Canada. Are there any other Canadians on this list besides me? Or do any of you have any information regarding it's availability here yet? Pekoe himself is pretty much "normal" - his appetite is good, litter box habits still good, he enjoys sitting on our laps, is still interested in what's going on around him, etc. The only difference in him is that he doesn't play as hard as before, he's still licking the concrete floor some in the basement, and he wants to be by himself curled up in the basement at various times throughout the day. He's currently on 10 mg. Prednisone twice a day - although the vet is going to get back to me about tapering the dose in view of his latest blood results. He was also on Doxycycline (for possible Hemobart), but I guess that's not necessary now. She also said that a blood transfusion may be an option, if his PCV gets too low. And to think that a week ago, all I was worried about was some possible dental work for him . I've Google - searched until I'm blue in the face trying to find out if Virbagen Omega Interferon is available for use in Canada! I was able to provide my vet with the name of a Senior Veterinary Biologics Evaluator, Veterinary Biologics Section, Canadian Food Inspection Agency. I had emailed this person last year inquiring about the availability of the drug, but all she was able to tell me was that it was "not yet licensed for veterinary use in Canada". Hopefully, my vet will be able to find out what I couldn't. All my feelings of anger are re-surfacing against the SPCA - if you recall, we adopted both Pekoe and Digby from them, and discovered (after the fact) that this particular shelter wasn't doing their job properly - then had the nerve to cop an "attitude" with us when Digby died! Sorry to babble on so - just upset .Marlene Pekoe Angel Digby Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, more on new and used cars.
