Re: FeLV+ cat and FeLV- kitten in the same house
The virus isn't that contagious. Even if the cats get together, it's highly unlikely that a healthy kitten will just pick up the virus, which is pretty fragile and dies on contact with the air. Even passing it nose to nose, or sharing food bowls, is highly unlikely. Gloria On Apr 7, 2006, at 6:01 PM, Lance wrote: Hello all, My mother is considering adopting a kitten that needs a home. To the best of my knowledge, the kitten is FeLV negative. It's only six weeks or so old. Right now, my FeLV+ cat, Ember, is living in my room, and is kept away from the others. She's had a few jailbreaks, but I can be much more careful with her than I have been. The other cats in the house tested negative with ELISA a few weeks ago (see the Ember thread for the whole story). Anyway, I know generally what vets and others think of having a negative in a positive's house. I'm isolating Ember. However, the kitten will not have had her shots, and probably won't be ready for her first FeLV vax for another month. Even with Ember being isolated, and the kitten having no direct or indirect exposure (i.e. no one shares food, food bowls, boxes, water), do we run any risk of having the kitten come up positive just by living in the same house as my girl? Thanks, Lance
Re: FeLV+ cat and FeLV- kitten in the same house
I have + and - together, but I do try not to take a - negative kitten until they can have all of their shots. BUT, I think keeping them separated until then would probably be fine, too. People forget that sometimes a slight risk is better than not taking in a cat/kitten that otherwise might not get a home. Tracy
Pookie
THANK YOU Nina, Michelle (UK). Michelle (US), Bonnie, Hideyo, Marylyn, Sherry, Wendy, Tonya, Gloria, Cindy, Becca, Susan, MaryChristine, Terri, Barb, Kathy, Carla and Kat for all your kind messages in response to my message about Pookie. (If I inadvertently missed anyone, my apologies.) I'm waiting a response from the animal hospital to my 2nd letter. Their first letter was very, veryapologetic, did seem genuine and full of remorse for the "misunderstanding"and whenI get some time and if I get a second letter I'll email the correspondence to anyone who wants to see it. I wasn't happy about their explanation however--things just didn't add up--and have asked for specifics. I also asked for specifics on the actual steps they had taken to fulfil their "promise it will never happen again." I also had a fairly long conversation with the owner of PAWS Chicago yesterday when she called me. (She had alreadyattempted to reach me Tuesday but I said it would be better if we spoke after she got the copy of my 2nd letter to the hospital.) We spoke about FeLV cats and I had an idea this morning for helping FeLV cats in Chicagoland. I'll be following up this email to you with another explanatory one over the weekend where I'll asking all you wonderful folks for a brief email on your positive, no pun intended, experiences with FeLV kitties. I am hoping that some good will come out of what happened with Pookie, and this may be it. Till later, and many thanks again for all your support. You are all wonderful and your messages meant such a lot to me. I will be keeping them all. love and hugs, Kerry
Re: FeLV+ cat and FeLV- kitten in the same house
Hi Lance, I am usually a big advocate for mixing pos and negs in the same household. Here comes the but... Not when it comes to kittens! Esp kittens that haven't yet been vaccinated. Barbara is right, kittens have a way of getting into all sorts of places that are suppose to be restricted. I wouldn't risk the health of the little one. Adult cats have far less chance of contracting the disease and far better chances of clearing it if they do. Kittens and geriatrics don't have as strong an immune system and therefore are at greater risk. When I had felv in the house, I wouldn't have dreamed of bringing in a kitten. Nina Lance wrote: Hello all, My mother is considering adopting a kitten that needs a home. To the best of my knowledge, the kitten is FeLV negative. It's only six weeks or so old. Right now, my FeLV+ cat, Ember, is living in my room, and is kept away from the others. She's had a few jailbreaks, but I can be much more careful with her than I have been. The other cats in the house tested negative with ELISA a few weeks ago (see the Ember thread for the whole story). Anyway, I know generally what vets and others think of having a negative in a positive's house. I'm isolating Ember. However, the kitten will not have had her shots, and probably won't be ready for her first FeLV vax for another month. Even with Ember being isolated, and the kitten having no direct or indirect exposure (i.e. no one shares food, food bowls, boxes, water), do we run any risk of having the kitten come up positive just by living in the same house as my girl? Thanks, Lance
Re: FeLV+ cat and FeLV- kitten in the same house
I feel the same way, Nina, and I know several who mix their kitties like that. At some point, kittens develop a strong enoungh immune system to deal with it - but I'm not sure what that point is. FELV virus dies when it hits the air, and I just don't think it's gonna pass to the kitten, if the kitten is isolated. Even so, I still think it would take a bite or something like that to pass it on. Just imho. Gloria At 05:28 PM 4/8/2006, you wrote: Hi Lance, I am usually a big advocate for mixing pos and negs in the same household. Here comes the but... Not when it comes to kittens! Esp kittens that haven't yet been vaccinated. Barbara is right, kittens have a way of getting into all sorts of places that are suppose to be restricted. I wouldn't risk the health of the little one. Adult cats have far less chance of contracting the disease and far better chances of clearing it if they do. Kittens and geriatrics don't have as strong an immune system and therefore are at greater risk. When I had felv in the house, I wouldn't have dreamed of bringing in a kitten. Nina Lance wrote: Hello all, My mother is considering adopting a kitten that needs a home. To the best of my knowledge, the kitten is FeLV negative. It's only six weeks or so old. Right now, my FeLV+ cat, Ember, is living in my room, and is kept away from the others. She's had a few jailbreaks, but I can be much more careful with her than I have been. The other cats in the house tested negative with ELISA a few weeks ago (see the Ember thread for the whole story). Anyway, I know generally what vets and others think of having a negative in a positive's house. I'm isolating Ember. However, the kitten will not have had her shots, and probably won't be ready for her first FeLV vax for another month. Even with Ember being isolated, and the kitten having no direct or indirect exposure (i.e. no one shares food, food bowls, boxes, water), do we run any risk of having the kitten come up positive just by living in the same house as my girl? Thanks, Lance
Re: FeLV+ cat and FeLV- kitten in the same house
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Sherry, how are you doing?
Just checking in to see if you are still having a really hard time... Michelle In a message dated 3/26/2006 8:05:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all,I just needed to tell someone that I am having a really bad missing my baby girl cry.This happens every so often but not as much as it used to.I knew EVERYONE here would understand. She has been gone almost 5 months and it still hurts so much. I have had many cats in my life come and go,but I don't ever remember hurting this much for this long.If it were not for you wonderful caring people, I don't know how I would have made it through the toughest times.sorry to unload this sadness onto you,I just knew you would understand. Thanks Sherry
Just Needed to Share
Today one of my cats turned 7. Bandit has been with us since he was 6 weeks old. He is not Felv+ but he does have bad asthma. Two days ago I remembered his brother, Smoky, who did four years ago of cancer. Just two days before his birthday. Every year, I worry about Bandit getting cancer since the vet thought that Smoky's cancer was hereditary. But thankfully each year he is still cancer free. Bandit is also the oldest cat in our family and has also beaten my record with cats. My very first cat, Sarge, passed away just 5 years after I found him. He also had cancer. Then we had to put Moonshadow down 5 years after we found him. He was so sick and there was no hope. Then there was Smoky. And the most recent lost was my Sylvester who was Felv+ and passed away last year, just 2 years after we rescued him. Now I have 2 cats with Asthma, one also is Felv+, and 11 cats that so far are healthy as can be! I am thankful for all the time I am allowed to spend with my "kids", even when it is short. Every year on Bandit's birthday, I celebrate the good and remember the sad. Thanks for letting me talk. Chris
Re: Sherry, how are you doing?
O, my dearI still hurt of loves that left this world 20 years ago. Quiet yourself and let your friend visit. You have to be open and you have to ask but she will come and visit and if you are calm enough she will stay a good length of time. Once this starts you can ask for visits and she will just pop in, especially at bad times. Quiet yourself and know she is not gone. Just her body. Your pain is very real but let her help you understand that there is so much more to her than a body. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 7:46 PM Subject: Sherry, how are you doing? Just checking in to see if you are still having a really hard time... Michelle In a message dated 3/26/2006 8:05:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all,I just needed to tell someone that I am having a really bad missing my baby girl cry.This happens every so often but not as much as it used to.I knew EVERYONE here would understand. She has been gone almost 5 months and it still hurts so much. I have had many cats in my life come and go,but I don't ever remember hurting this much for this long.If it were not for you wonderful caring people, I don't know how I would have made it through the toughest times.sorry to unload this sadness onto you,I just knew you would understand. Thanks Sherry
Re: Just Needed to Share
Chris, You are so right.I too am thankful for the time I had with my positives and negatives. My positives have taught me to be greatful for every moment I am alive
Re: FeLV+ cat and FeLV- kitten in the same house
I think you'll be safe. When the virus dries it dies.. As long as you keep the kitten away from a positive that will groom or sneeze on it. Good luck. tonyaLance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all,My mother is considering adopting a kitten that needs a home. To the best of my knowledge, the kitten is FeLV negative. It's only six weeks or so old. Right now, my FeLV+ cat, Ember, is living in my room, and is kept away from the others. She's had a few jailbreaks, but I can be much more careful with her than I have been. The other cats in the house tested negative with ELISA a few weeks ago (see the "Ember" thread for the whole story).Anyway, I know generally what vets and others think of having a negative in a positive's house. I'm isolating Ember. However, the kitten will not have had her shots, and probably won't be ready for her first FeLV vax for another month. Even with Ember being isolated, and the kitten having no direct or indirect exposure (i.e. no one shares food, food bowls, boxes, water), do we run any risk of having the kitten come up positive just by living in the same house as my girl?Thanks,Lance
Re: Sherry, how are you doing?
Hi Michelle,first of all thank you for asking.I am doing good,I have my bad moments and I also have my good moments when I am missing her. My two hamdsome boys sure help me feel better. Also loving all my sanctuary fur kids helps too.Once again thanks for asking. :) Sherry[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Just checking in to see if you are still having a really hard time... MichelleIn a message dated 3/26/2006 8:05:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Hi all,I just needed to tell someone that I am having a really bad missing my baby girl cry.This happens every so often but not as much as it used to.I knew EVERYONE here would understand. She has been gone almost 5 months and it still hurts so much. I have had many cats in my life come and go,but I don't ever remember hurting this much for this long.If it were not for you wonderful caring people, I don't know how I would have made it through the toughest times.sorry to unload this sadness onto you,I just knew you would understand. Thanks Sherry Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1/min.
Re: Sherry, how are you doing?
Thanks Marylyn,I do get visits from her,of course it's not quite the same. But I do know she is still here with me. SherryMarylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: O, my dearI still hurt of loves that left this world 20 years ago. Quiet yourself and let your friend visit. You have to be open and you have to ask but she will come and visit and if you are calm enough she will stay a good length of time. Once this starts you can ask for visits and she will just pop in, especially at bad times. Quiet yourself and know she is not gone. Just her body. Your pain is very real but let her help you understand that there is so much more to her than a body. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 7:46 PM Subject: Sherry, how are you doing? Just checking in to see if you are still having a really hard time... MichelleIn a message dated 3/26/2006 8:05:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all,I just needed to tell someone that I am having a really bad missing my baby girl cry.This happens every so often but not as much as it used to.I knew EVERYONE here would understand. She has been gone almost 5 months and it still hurts so much. I have had many cats in my life come and go,but I don't ever remember hurting this much for this long.If it were not for you wonderful caring people, I don't know how I would have made it through the toughest times.sorry to unload this sadness onto you,I just knew you would understand. Thanks Sherry How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
Re: Just Needed to Share
HAPPY BIRTHDAY Bandit. :) give him lots of kissesChris Behnke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today one of my cats turned 7. Bandit has been with us since he was 6 weeks old. He is not Felv+ but he does have bad asthma. Two days ago I remembered his brother, Smoky, who did four years ago of cancer. Just two days before his birthday. Every year, I worry about Bandit getting cancer since the vet thought that Smoky's cancer was hereditary. But thankfully each year he is still cancer free. Bandit is also the oldest cat in our family and has also beaten my record with cats. My very first cat, Sarge, passed away just 5 years after I found him. He also had cancer. Then we had to put Moonshadow down 5 years after we found him. He was so sick and there was no hope. Then there was Smoky. And the most recent lost was my Sylvester who was Felv+ and passed away last year, just 2 years after we rescued him. Now I have 2 cats with Asthma, one also is Felv+, and 11 cats that so far are healthy as can be! I am thankful for all the time I am allowed to spend with my "kids", even when it is short. Every year on Bandit's birthday, I celebrate the good and remember the sad. Thanks for letting me talk.Chris Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.
