RE: mixing
Tad, I absolutely agree with you This is essentially a condition that tries to suppress the immune system. What kind of shape that immune system is in to begin with is based on so many factors that its impossible to predict. Most of these little ones are born to mothers who were strays and were not getting good food, and warmth, and all those things they needed. Kittens born to strays, unfortunately, have got to be at greater risk irrespective of FELV status. As for Switters, Im so glad hes doing welltalk about a survivorthat one got good genes from somewhere, didnt he! I bet the old guys are sort of looking at him waiting for him to come out of that lets play mode I talked to Jean a few weeks ago and she was worried about one of her cats who had developed a degenerative disc problem. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tad Burnett Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 1:43 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: mixing I personally don't believe there is any predictable answer... I have two mother cats who came here with kittens.. The mothers tested negative but the kittens were positive... I have vaccinated the mothers but not retested because they are here to stay anyway but they are both very healthy... The oldest one has been here almost 3 years... She had two kittens... One kitten was pos the other neg... The neg. kitten was good for a couple months then one morning she was very week... 3 hours later at the vets office she had a convulsion and died... The pos kitty is still alive 3 years later... He gets a lot of antibiotics for his gums and has to be encouraged to eat enough to keep his weight up but with that he is doing good It must be a lot more than just being pos... I lost 4 of the Angel Wings 6 in a very short time and it appeared that they had made a full recover from their ordeal... The 2 that are left have no problems at all now... I wonder if any have gone negative.. Tad PS Switter is doing great so far..Every body likes him and he give some exercise to the old guys here... He sure is full of life... I wonder if he has a bit of bengal in him... He does have some spots on his back Chris wrote: I brought in two kittens (6 weeks 3 months) after I found my Tucson. My oldest cat was about 1 ½ years old when Tucson came. All four cats lived together for 4+ years before I discovered Tucson was pos. Theyve all consistently tested neg; I now get them vaccinated though I hadnt before. I figure if they havent all come up pos by now, its awfully hard to catch it! Theyve eaten out of the same dishes, use the same boxes, groom each other, have their little spats with the usual scratches, bumps and bruises Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: mixing a year. but I got my positive unknowingly and both she and another kitten of 3-4 months were basically like littermates.. t carrie chance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: adults, what age do you consider an adult .. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 7:39 PM Subject: Re: mixing I say mix, no need to vaccinate healthy adult cats. The FELV vaccine is MORE apt to CAUSE vaccine associated sarcoma (cancer) than it is to improve immunity against FELV in adult cats. In other words, there are more BAD things against the VACCINE than there are bad things against mixing adult cats with FELV+ cats. And yes, I can back that up with facts if needed. That is, of course, MY personal advise, and it will vary between members here. Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND: Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him, Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good home! http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures), and more towels! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.5/322 - Release Date: 4/22/2006
Bandy has ringworm on his nose
Bandy has been losing his hair between his eyes the last couple of wks..so I took him to the doctor Tues. and under the black light it showed to be green..She put him on the oral meds for it and a topical one, too..I am afraid of the oral med as it can alter the bone marrow. I don't know how he got it as I have never had any with it.. Is it because his system is so weak? We are still dealing with the anterior uveitis, too..It seems that it is going to be the chronic form and he will have to have meds for it the rest of his life...But now ringworm...I checked the archives looking for some info..But if any of you have any more suggestions about these meds he is on, please let me know...The oral med is for 40 days...that seems like a long time on such a strong med... Thanks for your help, Kerry, Bandy, Inky, and Angels Buster, Lil Rascal and Snoopy Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1/min.
Re: Bandy has ringworm on his nose
Kerry is the med Keto? I had to have my fiv+ on Keto for 30 days when he had what we call the "fungus". Almost all the fur kids at Sids have some form of it. SherryKerry Roach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Bandy has been losing his hair between his eyes the last couple of wks..so I took him to the doctor Tues. and under the black light it showed to be green..She put him on the oral meds for it and a topical one, too..I am afraid of the oral med as it can alter the bone marrow. I don't know how he got it as I have never had any with it.. Is it because his system is so weak? We are still dealing with the anterior uveitis, too..It seems that it is going to be the chronic form and he will have to have meds for it the rest of his life...But now ringworm...I checked the archives looking for some info..But if any of you have any more suggestions about these meds he is on, please let me know...The oral med is for 40 days...that seems like a long time on such a strong med... Thanks for your help, Kerry, Bandy, Inky, and Angels Buster, Lil Rascal and Snoopy Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Yahoo! Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone.
for Belinda--Re: I need your help for Paula Fasseas
Belinda--a quick but vital Q re your much appreciated contribution to my Paula Fasseas/PAWS letter--do you vaccinate your negatives for FeLV? (I know we've covered this before but I couldn't find the answer in the archives). Thanks again, Kerry - Original Message - From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:32 AM Subject: Re: I need your help for Paula Fasseas Bailey, diagnosed FeLV+ at 5 months of age, will turn 11 years old in May of 2006. Has 5 housemates all negative, they eat, sleep, play, groom and on the rare occasion have disagreements. In the almost 11 years they have all lived together nobody has become positive. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: New
It's generally 1/2 cc dexamethasone mixed with 1/2 cc depomedrol. Normaldosage for each independently is a whole cc. I have, on at least one occasion, given 1 cc of dex and 1 cc of depo. Michelle-Original Message-From: Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:35:03 -0700Subject: Re: New Thanks Michelle, this is REALLY good to know. I will print put it in her file! can you give me dosages? I assume per weight? Pam - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 7:57 PM Subject: Re: New Hi, Pam. I have had several positives who got lymphoma. I think you are doing the right thing by trying the chemo. It can do wonders with extending life and making them more comfortable and happy while they are here. If you do stop the chemo at any point, rather than the natural route (which I support where effective, and used with one of our dogs who had a sarcoma and she did well-- so I am not against it at all normally but it does not seem to work well for lymphoma) I would suggest doing combination shots of dexamethasone and depomedrol (1/2 cc each, as often as needed but can last up to a few weeks). The steroids are effective at shrinking lymphoma and make the cats feel really good physically and emotionally, and they usually do not have any short-term side effects. I have had cats who seemed on their death beds, not eating or drinking and hardly moving, who got up and ate within an hour of getting one of these shots. Others on this list have had the same experience. It is not a conventional treatment for lymphoma, but I learned it from a vet whose practice uses these shots for all terminally ill cats, and she swears by them and says she has seen cats go months on these shots alone with lymphoma, feeling good. I would not do it instead of chemo, but if you need to stop the chemo for any reason. I convinced my cat Simon's oncologist to try it, after he was at first resistant, and he was shocked at how effective it was. Michelle In a message dated 4/25/2006 7:24:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, this is Pam, mom for JuneAmy. Altho I have no FeLv kitties, I have been so grateful for the help that has already come from those here even tho I have not been on your list, that I had to join. I will post her story later but suffice to say right now that she has large cell lymphoma. Big mass in the abdomen, more thorughout the liver, spleen, intestines lymph nodes. She was diagnosed a week ago today. Had hse been a old kitty ( I am not at all sure how old she is but think she is probably older than what I have been told), I would probably have let her go with that diagnosis, which was pretty grim. But I let the vets at U of WI vet hospital give her a watered down injection of L'spar started her on 1`0 mg of pred last week as a trial. They thought to start the full U of WI protocol would kill her. She responded just enough for them to decide to go ahead today she got Vincristine. I am not at all sure I am doing the right thing. But my feeling is that I have to try. I could just treat her with pred natural supplements, which is very tempting, it may come to that depending on how she does, but I have been encouraged by those who know us, to try. Right now she is so tired. I fed her some "lunch" of Purina DM on comimg home but she needs to rest. As I type, I am also watching her breathing thinking she is having some mild difficulty. I don't know. Going to be a long evening/night. Pam
Re: New
thanks, Michelle, I'm glad to know about the Dex and Depo combination. Gloria On Apr 25, 2006, at 9:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Pam. I have had several positives who got lymphoma. I think you are doing the right thing by trying the chemo. It can do wonders with extending life and making them more comfortable and happy while they are here. If you do stop the chemo at any point, rather than the natural route (which I support where effective, and used with one of our dogs who had a sarcoma and she did well-- so I am not against it at all normally but it does not seem to work well for lymphoma) I would suggest doing combination shots of dexamethasone and depomedrol (1/2 cc each, as often as needed but can last up to a few weeks). The steroids are effective at shrinking lymphoma and make the cats feel really good physically and emotionally, and they usually do not have any short-term side effects. I have had cats who seemed on their death beds, not eating or drinking and hardly moving, who got up and ate within an hour of getting one of these shots. Others on this list have had the same experience. It is not a conventional treatment for lymphoma, but I learned it from a vet whose practice uses these shots for all terminally ill cats, and she swears by them and says she has seen cats go months on these shots alone with lymphoma, feeling good. I would not do it instead of chemo, but if you need to stop the chemo for any reason. I convinced my cat Simon's oncologist to try it, after he was at first resistant, and he was shocked at how effective it was. Michelle In a message dated 4/25/2006 7:24:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, this is Pam, mom for JuneAmy. Altho I have no FeLv kitties, I have been so grateful for the help that has already come from those here even tho I have not been on your list, that I had to join. I will post her story later but suffice to say right now that she has large cell lymphoma. Big mass in the abdomen, more thorughout the liver, spleen, intestines lymph nodes. She was diagnosed a week ago today. Had hse been a old kitty ( I am not at all sure how old she is but think she is probably older than what I have been told), I would probably have let her go with that diagnosis, which was pretty grim. But I let the vets at U of WI vet hospital give her a watered down injection of L'spar started her on 1`0 mg of pred last week as a trial. They thought to start the full U of WI protocol would kill her. She responded just enough for them to decide to go ahead today she got Vincristine. I am not at all sure I am doing the right thing. But my feeling is that I have to try. I could just treat her with pred natural supplements, which is very tempting, it may come to that depending on how she does, but I have been encouraged by those who know us, to try. Right now she is so tired. I fed her some lunch of Purina DM on comimg home but she needs to rest. As I type, I am also watching her breathing thinking she is having some mild difficulty. I don't know. Going to be a long evening/night. Pam
A miracle for Hannibal
Hi, everyone, I wanted to thank you all for all your prayers for Hannibal I picked him last night at the vet and brought him home and took him back to the vet this morning again for more IV (planned already) Kim (who is so good to my kitties and is a vet tech there) was feeding him every hour with syringe while he was there all day yesterday. When I took him back this morning, he seemed more alert at the vet, Kim thought there was a kitty who was meowing very loud and Hannibal was interested in finding out whats going on. Also, Kim just called me and let me know that this morning, Hannibal ate on his own! (baby food and AD food), which is almost a miracle to me as he has not eaten significant amount of solid food for the past few weeks! Also, he is now sitting more front of the cage as opposed to hiding in the back! It made me cry --- I think Hannibal is feeling better! I just wanted to let you know because I thought he was so close to crossing and the only reason I did not give up was because Jasmine (AC) told me that he is not ready to give up and we decided to continue to fight! Please continue to pray for my little miracle boy that he will continue to get better! Thank you! Hideyo
Re: for Belinda--Re: I need your help for Paula Fasseas
Hi Kerry, Yes I do vaccinate my negs, I used to test them every year first but after 10 years of coming up negative I don't worry about that anymore so I don't test anymore. They all except Bailey only get the FeLV vaccine, I've decided they are immune for life for everything else. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Bandy has ringworm on his nose
Kerry, The Herd had ringworm back in November. We didn't give an oral med due to the cost. we did use a shampoo twice a week and a spray daily. its made by malasebnad cost 23-26$ a bottle. holding wet cats isnt much fun but it did work. Karen pogo,teddy,stitch,oreo,houdini,bandit,boots,salem Bandy has been losing his hair between his eyes the last couple of wks..so I took him to the doctor Tues. and under the black light it showed to be green..She put him on the oral meds for it and a topical one, too..I am afraid of the oral med as it can alter the bone marrow. I don't know how he got it as I have never had any with it.. Is it because his system is so weak? We are still dealing with the anterior uveitis, too..It seems that it is going to be the chronic form and he will have to have meds for it the rest of his life...But now ringworm...I checked the archives looking for some info..But if any of you have any more suggestions about these meds he is on, please let me know...The oral med is for 40 days...that seems like a long time on such a strong med... Thanks for your help, Kerry, Bandy, Inky, and Angels Buster, Lil Rascal and Snoopy Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
RE: Bandy has ringworm on his nose
I use Golden Seal tincture (not with alcohol though) and drip or paint it on the ringworm. It costs about $8, and it works great. And of course, one is supposed to clean pretty thoroughly... wash bedding and all that. Gloria At 02:22 PM 4/26/2006, you wrote: Kerry, The Herd had ringworm back in November. We didn't give an oral med due to the cost. we did use a shampoo twice a week and a spray daily. its made by malasebnad cost 23-26$ a bottle. holding wet cats isnt much fun but it did work. Karen pogo,teddy,stitch,oreo,houdini,bandit,boots,salem Bandy has been losing his hair between his eyes the last couple of wks..so I took him to the doctor Tues. and under the black light it showed to be green..She put him on the oral meds for it and a topical one, too..I am afraid of the oral med as it can alter the bone marrow. I don't know how he got it as I have never had any with it.. Is it because his system is so weak? We are still dealing with the anterior uveitis, too..It seems that it is going to be the chronic form and he will have to have meds for it the rest of his life...But now ringworm...I checked the archives looking for some info..But if any of you have any more suggestions about these meds he is on, please let me know...The oral med is for 40 days...that seems like a long time on such a strong med... Thanks for your help, Kerry, Bandy, Inky, and Angels Buster, Lil Rascal and Snoopy Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman7/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=39666/*http://beta.messenger.yahoo.comGreat rates starting at 1¢/min.
Re: Bandy has ringworm on his nose
The oral med is fulvicin 62.5mg/ml and he gets 1cc daily for 40 days. The topical med is conofite every 12 hrs on the affected area.. I know the fulvicin can be toxic to a kitty or their bone marrow..I didn't know that at the time, but his vet said he needed the oral med to help it heal faster, I guess... We are going back to the vet today as I think he is going blind because of the other problem...He doesn't seem to be able to see very well if any at all...I can't get him interested in his string or any toys..He won't get out of his bed so I took his food to him...He ate only a small amount today..I don't know what to do...I will post again when we get back from the vet later tonight... thanks to all.. I hope everyones furbabies are doing well today.. Kerry and Bandy Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.
Re: A miracle for Hannibal
I am so happy to hear that Hannibal started eating. I will keep both of you in my prayers and I hope that Hannibal keeps improving. Cindy --- Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, everyone, I wanted to thank you all for all your prayers for Hannibal - I picked him last night at the vet and brought him home and took him back to the vet this morning again for more IV (planned already) - Kim (who is so good to my kitties and is a vet tech there) was feeding him every hour with syringe while he was there all day yesterday. When I took him back this morning, he seemed more alert at the vet, Kim thought - there was a kitty who was meowing very loud and Hannibal was interested in finding out what's going on. Also, Kim just called me and let me know that this morning, Hannibal ate on his own! (baby food and AD food), which is almost a miracle to me as he has not eaten significant amount of solid food for the past few weeks! Also, he is now sitting more front of the cage as opposed to hiding in the back! It made me cry --- I think Hannibal is feeling better! I just wanted to let you know because I thought he was so close to crossing and the only reason I did not give up was because Jasmine (AC) told me that he is not ready to give up and we decided to continue to fight! Please continue to pray for my little miracle boy that he will continue to get better! Thank you! Hideyo __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: A miracle for Hannibal
Thank you, Cindy! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: A miracle for Hannibal I am so happy to hear that Hannibal started eating. I will keep both of you in my prayers and I hope that Hannibal keeps improving. Cindy --- Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, everyone, I wanted to thank you all for all your prayers for Hannibal - I picked him last night at the vet and brought him home and took him back to the vet this morning again for more IV (planned already) - Kim (who is so good to my kitties and is a vet tech there) was feeding him every hour with syringe while he was there all day yesterday. When I took him back this morning, he seemed more alert at the vet, Kim thought - there was a kitty who was meowing very loud and Hannibal was interested in finding out what's going on. Also, Kim just called me and let me know that this morning, Hannibal ate on his own! (baby food and AD food), which is almost a miracle to me as he has not eaten significant amount of solid food for the past few weeks! Also, he is now sitting more front of the cage as opposed to hiding in the back! It made me cry --- I think Hannibal is feeling better! I just wanted to let you know because I thought he was so close to crossing and the only reason I did not give up was because Jasmine (AC) told me that he is not ready to give up and we decided to continue to fight! Please continue to pray for my little miracle boy that he will continue to get better! Thank you! Hideyo __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Bad news/JuneAmy
Yesterday was our vet appt in Madison. It seemed to go well. Bloodwork showed WBCs actually a bit high. HCT was 30. The vet palpated JuneAmy's abdomen thought the mass there seemed to be smaller based on that my report that she had been eating a bit, went ahead with the Vincriistine. But last night I noticed that her breathing was changed. And this morning it was not open-mouthed but I"heavy". She was basically breathing with her whole body.So I took her in to my vet here before they were even open. He palpated her right away found fluid in the abdomen. To be sure he put the ultrasound probe on her -- he's no expert but even I could see the black blobs on the screen that was fluid. So he did a needle aspirate found blood. The tumor is bleeding into the abdomen. The cause is unknown. Could have been all the handling yesterday. Could be siimply that withsuch a fast growing tumor, as he says, the tumor basically outgrows itself ruptures in places.HJe alsochecked her HCT it was down to 26 from 30 yesterday. He said we had two choices, to let her go immediately or to wait see if the bleeding resolved on its own. If it was due to all the handling yesterday with a tumor that was already in a taut condition, then this would be possible. He said that is what he would do. Since at the time, JuneAmy had wanted to be down on the floor was walking around the room, he felt we needed to take a wait see stance. See if it gets worse, if she gets noticeqbly weaker or if the abdomen gets bigger. He said he was pretty sure she was not in any pain, but that unresolved if the bleeding doesn't stop, she would just get weaker weaker. I've had to be gone most of the day but when I got back, I found her basically the same as this morning. She has not eaten anything on her own is still breathing heavily. But right now she just left the room is out in the house, went out to the screened porch. So she is hanging in. I don't see any change from this morning. No better, but no worse. I just don't know what to expect now. If she is strong enough still to walk out to the screened porch, I can't think that her HCT has gone a whole lot lower. Her belly seems about the same. So I am just waiting to see which way things go. If she gets worse, I will let her go, be it later today or first thing tomrrow. Pray for her, please. She is a good girl. Pam Hurricane Katrina's terrible message: if it is too dangerous for YOU to stay behind as a disaster approaches, then why would you leave your PETS behind? Never ever ever leave them behind! Have enough crates for all take them with you! They are your family!
RE: Bandy has ringworm on his nose
Kerry: Did your vet do bloodwork before prescribing oral medication for Brandy? Which ringworm oral medication did the vet prescribe? Also, you are in Chicago right? Who is your vet? I am located in Chicago as well. Precious Pets __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Bad news/JuneAmy
I have been praying like crazy for all of mine soI will surely add her to those prayers! Carrie - Original Message - From: Pam Norman To: Felv Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 4:41 PM Subject: Bad news/JuneAmy Yesterday was our vet appt in Madison. It seemed to go well. Bloodwork showed WBCs actually a bit high. HCT was 30. The vet palpated JuneAmy's abdomen thought the mass there seemed to be smaller based on that my report that she had been eating a bit, went ahead with the Vincriistine. But last night I noticed that her breathing was changed. And this morning it was not open-mouthed but I"heavy". She was basically breathing with her whole body.So I took her in to my vet here before they were even open. He palpated her right away found fluid in the abdomen. To be sure he put the ultrasound probe on her -- he's no expert but even I could see the black blobs on the screen that was fluid. So he did a needle aspirate found blood. The tumor is bleeding into the abdomen. The cause is unknown. Could have been all the handling yesterday. Could be siimply that withsuch a fast growing tumor, as he says, the tumor basically outgrows itself ruptures in places.HJe alsochecked her HCT it was down to 26 from 30 yesterday. He said we had two choices, to let her go immediately or to wait see if the bleeding resolved on its own. If it was due to all the handling yesterday with a tumor that was already in a taut condition, then this would be possible. He said that is what he would do. Since at the time, JuneAmy had wanted to be down on the floor was walking around the room, he felt we needed to take a wait see stance. See if it gets worse, if she gets noticeqbly weaker or if the abdomen gets bigger. He said he was pretty sure she was not in any pain, but that unresolved if the bleeding doesn't stop, she would just get weaker weaker. I've had to be gone most of the day but when I got back, I found her basically the same as this morning. She has not eaten anything on her own is still breathing heavily. But right now she just left the room is out in the house, went out to the screened porch. So she is hanging in. I don't see any change from this morning. No better, but no worse. I just don't know what to expect now. If she is strong enough still to walk out to the screened porch, I can't think that her HCT has gone a whole lot lower. Her belly seems about the same. So I am just waiting to see which way things go. If she gets worse, I will let her go, be it later today or first thing tomrrow. Pray for her, please. She is a good girl. Pam Hurricane Katrina's terrible message: if it is too dangerous for YOU to stay behind as a disaster approaches, then why would you leave your PETS behind? Never ever ever leave them behind! Have enough crates for all take them with you! They are your family!
Re: Bad news/JuneAmy
Enjoy the time you have with herforget about "letting her go" that is a black cloud over you both. She will let you know if she needs help leaving this world. Kitty left on her own after two visits from her First woman and without having to travel and go to a vet. Enjoy your time with her and love her. That is all she asks and it is the very best you can give her. Honest. I know how hard it is. You can do this. Love her. None of us know our futures. Love her. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: carrie chance To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 4:52 PM Subject: Re: Bad news/JuneAmy I have been praying like crazy for all of mine soI will surely add her to those prayers! Carrie - Original Message - From: Pam Norman To: Felv Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 4:41 PM Subject: Bad news/JuneAmy Yesterday was our vet appt in Madison. It seemed to go well. Bloodwork showed WBCs actually a bit high. HCT was 30. The vet palpated JuneAmy's abdomen thought the mass there seemed to be smaller based on that my report that she had been eating a bit, went ahead with the Vincriistine. But last night I noticed that her breathing was changed. And this morning it was not open-mouthed but I"heavy". She was basically breathing with her whole body.So I took her in to my vet here before they were even open. He palpated her right away found fluid in the abdomen. To be sure he put the ultrasound probe on her -- he's no expert but even I could see the black blobs on the screen that was fluid. So he did a needle aspirate found blood. The tumor is bleeding into the abdomen. The cause is unknown. Could have been all the handling yesterday. Could be siimply that withsuch a fast growing tumor, as he says, the tumor basically outgrows itself ruptures in places.HJe alsochecked her HCT it was down to 26 from 30 yesterday. He said we had two choices, to let her go immediately or to wait see if the bleeding resolved on its own. If it was due to all the handling yesterday with a tumor that was already in a taut condition, then this would be possible. He said that is what he would do. Since at the time, JuneAmy had wanted to be down on the floor was walking around the room, he felt we needed to take a wait see stance. See if it gets worse, if she gets noticeqbly weaker or if the abdomen gets bigger. He said he was pretty sure she was not in any pain, but that unresolved if the bleeding doesn't stop, she would just get weaker weaker. I've had to be gone most of the day but when I got back, I found her basically the same as this morning. She has not eaten anything on her own is still breathing heavily. But right now she just left the room is out in the house, went out to the screened porch. So she is hanging in. I don't see any change from this morning. No better, but no worse. I just don't know what to expect now. If she is strong enough still to walk out to the screened porch, I can't think that her HCT has gone a whole lot lower. Her belly seems about the same. So I am just waiting to see which way things go. If she gets worse, I will let her go, be it later today or first thing tomrrow. Pray for her, please. She is a good girl. Pam Hurricane Katrina's terrible message: if it is too dangerous for YOU to stay behind as a disaster approaches, then why would you leave your PETS behind? Never ever ever leave them behind! Have enough crates for all take them with you! They are your family!
Mixing FeLVs and FIVs?
Hi Guys! I'm so sorry I haven't been able to keep up with list as much as I would like...seems I can't get a break lately! I just have a quick question for those who care for both FeLVs and FIVs...I just found out that a stray guy that we took in a bit ago is FIV+! This actually wasn't surprising to me as he seemed to have a few health issues that just weren't clearing up! He's been hanging out in our spare room w/ all the amenities but I'd like to let him join the GP, if that is at all possible! My vet wasn't at all concerned...she actually has a FIV guy who mingles with her crew...but she says that she separates food and water dishes as a precaution. Well, I don't know how easy that would be for me...food is left out round the clock and everybody shares the water bowl! So I guess I'm just looking for a little advice from those who care for both...do you mix? It would be some time before he'll join the gang as we need to address his health issues first (bad stomatitis for which he has a dental scheduled next week--I wouldn't be surprised if a few teeth need to be pulled!)...But all-in-all, he's the sweetest guy...so mellow and only asks that you pet him 24/7... ;) Thanks so much, guys! Jen But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George
Re: Bad news/JuneAmy
Thank you Carrie, I so appreciate it. Pam - Original Message - From: carrie chance To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:52 PM Subject: Re: Bad news/JuneAmy I have been praying like crazy for all of mine soI will surely add her to those prayers! Carrie - Original Message - From: Pam Norman To: Felv Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 4:41 PM Subject: Bad news/JuneAmy Yesterday was our vet appt in Madison. It seemed to go well. Bloodwork showed WBCs actually a bit high. HCT was 30. The vet palpated JuneAmy's abdomen thought the mass there seemed to be smaller based on that my report that she had been eating a bit, went ahead with the Vincriistine. But last night I noticed that her breathing was changed. And this morning it was not open-mouthed but I"heavy". She was basically breathing with her whole body.So I took her in to my vet here before they were even open. He palpated her right away found fluid in the abdomen. To be sure he put the ultrasound probe on her -- he's no expert but even I could see the black blobs on the screen that was fluid. So he did a needle aspirate found blood. The tumor is bleeding into the abdomen. The cause is unknown. Could have been all the handling yesterday. Could be siimply that withsuch a fast growing tumor, as he says, the tumor basically outgrows itself ruptures in places.HJe alsochecked her HCT it was down to 26 from 30 yesterday. He said we had two choices, to let her go immediately or to wait see if the bleeding resolved on its own. If it was due to all the handling yesterday with a tumor that was already in a taut condition, then this would be possible. He said that is what he would do. Since at the time, JuneAmy had wanted to be down on the floor was walking around the room, he felt we needed to take a wait see stance. See if it gets worse, if she gets noticeqbly weaker or if the abdomen gets bigger. He said he was pretty sure she was not in any pain, but that unresolved if the bleeding doesn't stop, she would just get weaker weaker. I've had to be gone most of the day but when I got back, I found her basically the same as this morning. She has not eaten anything on her own is still breathing heavily. But right now she just left the room is out in the house, went out to the screened porch. So she is hanging in. I don't see any change from this morning. No better, but no worse. I just don't know what to expect now. If she is strong enough still to walk out to the screened porch, I can't think that her HCT has gone a whole lot lower. Her belly seems about the same. So I am just waiting to see which way things go. If she gets worse, I will let her go, be it later today or first thing tomrrow. Pray for her, please. She is a good girl. Pam Hurricane Katrina's terrible message: if it is too dangerous for YOU to stay behind as a disaster approaches, then why would you leave your PETS behind? Never ever ever leave them behind! Have enough crates for all take them with you! They are your family!
Re: Mixing FeLVs and FIVs?
I have two FIV+ cats and I have been told not to vaccinate them against FeLV. I personally am reluctant to take in an FeLV+ cat because of these two boys, as well as a couple of seniors, and the constant stream of foster kittens.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys!I'm so sorry I haven't been able to keep up with list as much as I wouldlike...seems I can't get a break lately!I just have a quick question for those who care for both FeLVs andFIVs...I just found out that a stray guy that we took in a bit ago isFIV+! This actually wasn't surprising to me as he seemed to have a fewhealth issues that just weren't clearing up! He's been hanging out inour spare room w/ all the amenities but I'd like to let him join the GP,if that is at all possible! My vet wasn't at all concerned...sheactually has a FIV guy who mingles with her crew...but she says that sheseparates food and water dishes as a precaution. Well, I don't know howeasy that would be for me...food is left out round the clock andeverybody shares the water bowl!So I guess I'm just looking for a little advice from those who care forboth...do you mix? It would be some time before he'll join the gang aswe need to address his health issues first (bad stomatitis for which hehas a "dental" scheduled next week--I wouldn't be surprised if a fewteeth need to be pulled!)...But all-in-all, he's the sweetest guy...somellow and only asks that you pet him 24/7... ;)Thanks so much, guys!Jen"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will beunique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; Youbecome responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine deSaint-Exupéry"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will knoweach other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and whatyou do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief DanGeorge
Re: Bad news/JuneAmy
I just said a prayer for her. Take care of yourself, and love your girl. I'm glad she got some porch time in. Lance
Re: Bad news/JuneAmy
Thank you, Lance. We need all the prayers we can get. Pam - Original Message - From: Lance [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:52 PM Subject: Re: Bad news/JuneAmy I just said a prayer for her. Take care of yourself, and love your girl. I'm glad she got some porch time in. Lance
Re: Bad news/JuneAmy
Don't give up Pam ! healing vibes on the way
Re: Mixing
I would.hd cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IM NOT PANICING CAN I ACCEPT THE NEGATIVE IFA- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:23 PM Subject: Re: MixingOk Carrie lets not panic get the mega c and the interferon lets see if we can get them to through the virus. retest on the ifa in 120 days Karen
Re: Mixing FeLVs and FIVs?
A FIV+ cat is several times more likely to get FELV than a negative cat, they have about the same chances as kittens in catching FELV (or any cat with a weak or undeveloped immune system). That being said, you have to go by quality of life. Even IF he does get FELV from mixing with your crew, would that be a worse fate then being left out on the streets, or where-ever he came from to begin with? There's very little risk to you FELV cats, if that was more of the question. FIV is ONLY spread through deep penetrating bite wounds. So long as you aren't getting any cat fights there, then your FELV cats wont be in any danger of getting the FIV from him. Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND: Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him, Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good home! http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures), and more towels! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.6/324 - Release Date: 4/25/2006
Re: Bad news/JuneAmy
I'm sorry to hear about the turn for the worse Pam. I do think that her not getting weak and lethargic over the period of the day is a good sign, if she were losing very much blood, she would be too tired to be stalking around the house. Are you taking her back in the morning to draw off more fluid to check to see if it's fresh or clotted blood? Jennhttp://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him,Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good home!http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.htmlDONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures), and more towels! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.6/324 - Release Date: 4/25/2006
Re: Bandy has ringworm on his nose
Sending good vibes and positive energy for Bandy. Jennhttp://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him,Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good home!http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.htmlDONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures), and more towels! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.6/324 - Release Date: 4/25/2006
Re: New
Hi Pam,I'm sorry to hear the diagnosis, but it sounds like your vet is encouraging. Prayers coming your way.tonyaPam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, this is Pam, mom for JuneAmy. Altho I have no FeLv kitties, I have been so grateful for the help that has already come from those here even tho I have not been on your list, that I had to join.I will post her story later but suffice to say right now that she has large cell lymphoma. Big mass in the abdomen, more thorughout the liver, spleen, intestines lymph nodes. She was diagnosed a week ago today. Had hse been a old kitty ( I am not at all sure how old she is but think she is probably older than what I have been told), I would probably have let her go with that diagnosis, which was pretty grim. But I let the vets at U of WI vet hospital give her a watered down injection of L'spar started her on 1`0 mg of pred last week as a trial. They thought to start the full U of WI protocol would kill her.She responded just enough for them to decide to go ahead today she got Vincristine. I am not at all sure I am doing the right thing. But my feeling is that I have to try. I could just treat her with pred natural supplements, which is very tempting, it may come to that depending on how she does, but I have been encouraged by those who know us, to try. Right now she is so tired. I fed her some "lunch" of Purina DM on comimg home but she needs to rest. As I type, I am also watching her breathing thinking she is having some mild difficulty. I don't know. Going to be a long evening/night. Pam Hurricane Katrina's terrible message: if it is too dangerous for YOU to stay behind as a disaster approaches, then why would you leave your PETS behind? Never ever ever leave them behind! Have enough crates for all take them with you! They are your family!
Re: mixing
Nope. Typically every 2 to 3 years. I've decided now to quit vaccinating my cats at all. They've all lived their entire lives with at least one positive in residence. My vet insists they need an annual vaccination, but I haven't done it. In fact I don't think I'm going to do any more shots with my guys except rabies because it's required by the state. I may get the distemper, but I am done with felv shots...But remember my cats did all get vaccinated and boostered their first year and got boosters yearly for a while.But bringing in the newest cat (adult). I'm just not that concerned about it if the cat has been vaccinated.tcindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do they get vaccinated every year?Cindy--- catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: No. I would never mix without vaccinating. I vaccinate my negatives too.. just in case the test is wrong. It doesn't harm them to vaccinate if they're positive according to my vet. Every cat that comes in gets a vaccination and a booster EVEN if it's test was negative. Of course if it turns up positive later I don't keeep boostering. t BONNIE J KALMBACH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yep, here comes my opinion- I had a kitten that was a false negative. When his virus activated after a dental, when he had anesthesia, he infected three of mine - none of whom had been vaccinated. Two died and one reverted to negative within a month. This was my first experience with FELV - I had no idea that my little one was now positive and shedding the virus - I just know that almost suddenly he was slowing down and becoming ill. Bonnie in WI http://savingspaldingpets.blogspot.com/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, April 24, 2006 4:25 pm Subject: Re: mixing To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org You'll get a mixed reply on that one. I have mixed, and will again - don't because I have foster kitties that belong to the rescue group. It's kind of a hot potato. Some vets euthanize the pos. Our rescue vet says he doesn't think it's that contagious (and I agree, I don't think it's that contagious). Lots of vets in between. And... some folks say vaccinate the negs, some don't. Gloria At 03:19 PM 4/24/2006, you wrote: So is eveyone here saying it is ok to mix my pos and my neg? Sincerely Carrie __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Is Nina ok?
I have not seen Nina on the list for a while, and she did not respond to an off-list email I sent her. Does anyone know if she is ok or not? I am kind of worried. I hope she is just busy. Michelle
Re: Bandy has ringworm on his nose
I took Bandy back to the doctor today, and he can't see..I don't know if we can reverse his blindness or not. She mixed some other drops that have about 5 things in it...I don't remember what it iscalled...I take him back in a week...He has no depth perception. I did take his food to him so he ate some, but won't drink water as I just don't think he can see the bowl...I hope when he gets thirsty, he will try..I know he doesn't know what to do. I did talk to her about the ringworm meds and we won't leave him on the oral for the 30 days if we don't have to...I am so afraid of that...She didn't do blood work this time. I posted what they were in an earlier post. I have used goldenseal once before on a stray cat, but have never dealt with it in my own...as we haven't ever had ringworm before...this is probably due to his weakened immune system anyway from the Felv and FIV..and he has been on pred for almost a month which I am weaning him off it right now...He doesn't need it in my opinion, and I think it contributed to the ringworm.. Any other help would be appreciated.. Thanks to you all for your help, you are the greatest.. Kerry and Bandy New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big.
Re: Bandy has ringworm on his nose
My God Kerry, you can't seem to be able to catch your breath! Are you still treating his eyes? He was the one that you had been treating for eye problems that wouldn't clear up, right? I can't remember exactly what was wrong, is that what's causing the blindness? I just can't believe what you've had to deal with, I don't know how you and Michelle hold on to your sanity. When I was dealing with the loss of one after another I remember saying in despair and frustration, NO MORE ANIMALS! Bruce just smiled and pointed out that even if we didn't acquire any new ones, we were still going to have to go through the inevitable so many more times. What can you do? When we open our hearts, the pain comes pouring in right beside the joy and love. Poor Bandy! Poor Kerry! I'm so sorry that you are having to deal with serious illness so soon again, but Bandy is one fortunate fellow to have you at his side. I'm glad you're getting him off the pred. Why don't you try the goldenseal as Gloria suggested for the ringworm? I can't believe Bandy has to contend with ringworm on top of everything else. I don't know Kerry, you know how I feel about all these immune suppressing drugs, even antibiotics work in a way that wipe out good at the same time as the bad. I'm pulling for you guys and my prayers and thoughts are with you. Please keep posting and call if you want or need a shoulder, Nina Kerry Roach wrote: I took Bandy back to the doctor today, and he can't see..I don't know if we can reverse his blindness or not. She mixed some other drops that have about 5 things in it...I don't remember what it iscalled...I take him back in a week...He has no depth perception. I did take his food to him so he ate some, but won't drink water as I just don't think he can see the bowl...I hope when he gets thirsty, he will try..I know he doesn't know what to do. I did talk to her about the ringworm meds and we won't leave him on the oral for the 30 days if we don't have to...I am so afraid of that...She didn't do blood work this time. I posted what they were in an earlier post. I have used goldenseal once before on a stray cat, but have never dealt with it in my own...as we haven't ever had ringworm before...this is probably due to his weakened immune system anyway from the Felv and FIV..and he has been on pred for almost a month which I am weaning him off it right now...He doesn't need it in my opinion, and I think it contributed to the ringworm.. Any other help would be appreciated.. Thanks to you all for your help, you are the greatest.. Kerry and Bandy New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big.
Re: Is Nina ok?
No, don't worry, I'm okay. I did respond to your off-list, you just hadn't gotten it yet. I've been so swamped with rescue and putting out fires in my crazy life that I haven't had time to get to the computer. I miss you all very much and am always holding you in my thoughts and prayers. Hopefully, I'll be able to adopt out some of my little refugees soon and I'll have more time to devote to my beloved group. Prayers for all those in need, Blessings and love to you all, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not seen Nina on the list for a while, and she did not respond to an off-list email I sent her. Does anyone know if she is ok or not? I am kind of worried. I hope she is just busy. Michelle
Re: A miracle for Hannibal
Hideyo, I'll try to give you a call later. I didn't see the posts about Hannibal until tonight. I'm so glad he's eating again! Many prayers that he continues to do well and has a full recovery. He's such a miracle boy and I know how much you love him. Love to you and all of yours, Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Thank you, Cindy! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: A miracle for Hannibal I am so happy to hear that Hannibal started eating. I will keep both of you in my prayers and I hope that Hannibal keeps improving. Cindy --- Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, everyone, I wanted to thank you all for all your prayers for Hannibal - I picked him last night at the vet and brought him home and took him back to the vet this morning again for more IV (planned already) - Kim (who is so good to my kitties and is a vet tech there) was feeding him every hour with syringe while he was there all day yesterday. When I took him back this morning, he seemed more alert at the vet, Kim thought - there was a kitty who was meowing very loud and Hannibal was interested in finding out what's going on. Also, Kim just called me and let me know that this morning, Hannibal ate on his own! (baby food and AD food), which is almost a miracle to me as he has not eaten significant amount of solid food for the past few weeks! Also, he is now sitting more front of the cage as opposed to hiding in the back! It made me cry --- I think Hannibal is feeling better! I just wanted to let you know because I thought he was so close to crossing and the only reason I did not give up was because Jasmine (AC) told me that he is not ready to give up and we decided to continue to fight! Please continue to pray for my little miracle boy that he will continue to get better! Thank you! Hideyo __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: A miracle for Hannibal
I just saw the posts about your darling Hannibal, Hideyo---I'm so glad to hear he's looking a little better, and I'm praying his recovery continues. He's such a trooper, just like his mom. I hope he and you have a good night. Sending lots of positive healing vibes for your miracle boy, love and hugs, Kerry - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: A miracle for Hannibal Hi, everyone, I wanted to thank you all for all your prayers for Hannibal I picked him last night at the vet and brought him home and took him back to the vet this morning again for more IV (planned already) Kim (who is so good to my kitties and is a vet tech there) was feeding him every hour with syringe while he was there all day yesterday. When I took him back this morning, he seemed more alert at the vet, Kim thought there was a kitty who was meowing very loud and Hannibal was interested in finding out whats going on. Also, Kim just called me and let me know that this morning, Hannibal ate on his own! (baby food and AD food), which is almost a miracle to me as he has not eaten significant amount of solid food for the past few weeks! Also, he is now sitting more front of the cage as opposed to hiding in the back! It made me cry --- I think Hannibal is feeling better! I just wanted to let you know because I thought he was so close to crossing and the only reason I did not give up was because Jasmine (AC) told me that he is not ready to give up and we decided to continue to fight! Please continue to pray for my little miracle boy that he will continue to get better! Thank you! Hideyo
Re: for Belinda--Re: I need your help for Paula Fasseas
Thanks so mch Belinda! Kerry - Original Message - From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 1:24 PM Subject: Re: for Belinda--Re: I need your help for Paula Fasseas Hi Kerry, Yes I do vaccinate my negs, I used to test them every year first but after 10 years of coming up negative I don't worry about that anymore so I don't test anymore. They all except Bailey only get the FeLV vaccine, I've decided they are immune for life for everything else. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Bad news/JuneAmy
I'm sending prayers and positive healing vibes for JuneAmy, Pam. Our little furballs can often surprise us with a (seemingly) miracle turnaround... Hoping JuneAmy has a good night and feelsa little better and strongerin the morning. hugs, Kerry - Original Message - From: Pam Norman To: Felv Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 4:41 PM Subject: Bad news/JuneAmy Yesterday was our vet appt in Madison. It seemed to go well. Bloodwork showed WBCs actually a bit high. HCT was 30. The vet palpated JuneAmy's abdomen thought the mass there seemed to be smaller based on that my report that she had been eating a bit, went ahead with the Vincriistine. But last night I noticed that her breathing was changed. And this morning it was not open-mouthed but I"heavy". She was basically breathing with her whole body.So I took her in to my vet here before they were even open. He palpated her right away found fluid in the abdomen. To be sure he put the ultrasound probe on her -- he's no expert but even I could see the black blobs on the screen that was fluid. So he did a needle aspirate found blood. The tumor is bleeding into the abdomen. The cause is unknown. Could have been all the handling yesterday. Could be siimply that withsuch a fast growing tumor, as he says, the tumor basically outgrows itself ruptures in places.HJe alsochecked her HCT it was down to 26 from 30 yesterday. He said we had two choices, to let her go immediately or to wait see if the bleeding resolved on its own. If it was due to all the handling yesterday with a tumor that was already in a taut condition, then this would be possible. He said that is what he would do. Since at the time, JuneAmy had wanted to be down on the floor was walking around the room, he felt we needed to take a wait see stance. See if it gets worse, if she gets noticeqbly weaker or if the abdomen gets bigger. He said he was pretty sure she was not in any pain, but that unresolved if the bleeding doesn't stop, she would just get weaker weaker. I've had to be gone most of the day but when I got back, I found her basically the same as this morning. She has not eaten anything on her own is still breathing heavily. But right now she just left the room is out in the house, went out to the screened porch. So she is hanging in. I don't see any change from this morning. No better, but no worse. I just don't know what to expect now. If she is strong enough still to walk out to the screened porch, I can't think that her HCT has gone a whole lot lower. Her belly seems about the same. So I am just waiting to see which way things go. If she gets worse, I will let her go, be it later today or first thing tomrrow. Pray for her, please. She is a good girl. Pam Hurricane Katrina's terrible message: if it is too dangerous for YOU to stay behind as a disaster approaches, then why would you leave your PETS behind? Never ever ever leave them behind! Have enough crates for all take them with you! They are your family!
Marylyn's Kitty
Hello Marylyn, I've just read about your sweet Kitty passing. I know how much you love her and how hard this is for you on so many levels. I'm sorry for your pain. Please express my sympathy to your mom as well. She's with your dad now, watching over you as lovingly and closely as you did her. Your posts to the list are always so full of love and understanding. Please soak in the love and support I'm sending out to you as I write this. You are in my thoughts and prayers. Blessings to you, Nina
