Re: Vacinating postivies (was Re: Help needed)
I hate to use it too - I know there are different varieties that are preferable, and I've heard to avoid the ones that are combined with other vaccines. Interesting thing - I've always heard to avoid vaccinating positives with the FELV vaccine. But I've learned to be open to other options - since I took in 3 FELV cats from a lady in Oklahoma. Hmmm, maybe a couple of years ago? They're 10-11 years old now. Her vet vaccinated them for FELV, as a way of dealing with the FELV. And they're alive today, and I've never had one live that long. Go figure. Gloria On Feb 26, 2007, at 11:41 PM, Kelly L wrote: At 06:29 PM 2/26/2007, you wrote: Oh I totally understand. The FELV vaccine is one I hate to use. I have had very healthy negative cats have horrible reactions to it. I dread using it, and I make sure I have the necessary meds incase they do have a reaction. and with an immune compromised cat it could be worse i agree. I would not feel comfortable mixing a known positive with non vaccinated negatives and if finances was an issue as the test can be expensive I would error on the side of caution, We just do the best we can and weight the potential outcomes. Kelly the main reason I don't like to vaccinate positives is I had one cat that was very healthy despite the FeLV+ status and the vet accidently gave him the vaccine, he went down hill immediately and then diedNOW, I doubt there was a connection, but. it was my vets who said don't vaccinate the positives and this was an honest mix up (I have many cats and brought them en mass for vaccines...) so if I know they are positive, I don't vaccinate. Tracy No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.412 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/702 - Release Date: 2/25/2007
Re: Vacinating postivies (was Re: Help needed)
i've never seen anything that said that vaccinating positive cats HURT them--or activated the virus, as some folks have claimed--just that it was a waste of money and vaccine i have a friend whose mom's cat died of FeLV complications a year or so ago--they'd never tested her when she came to them as a kitten 8 years or so before, so she was just regularly vaccinated! On 2/27/07, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to use it too - I know there are different varieties that are preferable, and I've heard to avoid the ones that are combined with other vaccines. Interesting thing - I've always heard to avoid vaccinating positives with the FELV vaccine. But I've learned to be open to other options - since I took in 3 FELV cats from a lady in Oklahoma. Hmmm, maybe a couple of years ago? They're 10-11 years old now. Her vet vaccinated them for FELV, as a way of dealing with the FELV. And they're alive today, and I've never had one live that long. Go figure. Gloria On Feb 26, 2007, at 11:41 PM, Kelly L wrote: At 06:29 PM 2/26/2007, you wrote: Oh I totally understand. The FELV vaccine is one I *hate* to use. I have had very healthy negative cats have horrible reactions to it. I dread using it, and I make sure I have the necessary meds incase they do have a reaction. and with an immune compromised cat it could be worse i agree. I would not feel comfortable mixing a known positive with non vaccinated negatives and if finances was an issue as the test can be expensive I would error on the side of caution, We just do the best we can and weight the potential outcomes. Kelly the main reason I don't like to vaccinate positives is I had one cat that was very healthy despite the FeLV+ status and the vet accidently gave him the vaccine, he went down hill immediately and then diedNOW, I doubt there was a connection, but. it was my vets who said don't vaccinate the positives and this was an honest mix up (I have many cats and brought them en mass for vaccines...) so if I know they are positive, I don't vaccinate. Tracy No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.412 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/702 - Release Date: 2/25/2007 -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Help needed
I had 12 cats when I found out one was positive and had been with everyone else for months. I spent a lot of money retesting and everyone else has remained negative. I then brought in another positive (on purpose) because I am not worried about my cats catching the leukemia. The negative cats do need to be vaccinated. It doesn't 'hurt' if you vaccinate someone and they later turn out to be positive. But unless someone gets sick I wouldn't test them again. All my cats mix freely together, eat together, use same litters, etc tonya Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are the odds of having 15 cats and one tests postive - will the others all be postive? These are cats that are strictly indoors now in a 1200 square foot house. The infected cat was not outwardly sick and di not socialize with the other cats, however they used same litter boxes and ate from same dishes. Any help would be greatly appreciated. All cats are close to same age, different litters, aquired at the same time.
Re: OT: Question about Yahoo photos
--- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, I went into Yahoo photos for the first time, and saw all these photos, some from 4 years ago, that have been sent to me or that I have sent out. I'd like to delete some of them, but there is no delete option. How do you delete them? Also, can you make some public, yet still keep others private? I have family photos in there that I don't want public. Thanks for your help! I'm not completely sure about deleting message attachments (which is what you're describing) without deleting the messages themselves, but I'm fairly sure they're *not* visible to anybody but you unless you give permission individually. The help section should show you exactly how to make pictures public or keep them private. If there's a picture of the Earth next to a pic, it's public. If there's a person, it's private, is my understanding. Without having Yahoophotos open in front of me, that's the best I can do at the moment. :) Best, Jean Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097
Re: Help needed
I personally have never heard of this happening. In fact my vet vaccinated my positive twice saying it might help and couldn't hurt. (This was over 10 years ago..) But many cats are vaccinated without being tested, and unless the cat were already sick and showing symptoms I doubt the vaccine would hurt. I would vaccinate everyone. I don't think it would cause a negative cat to become positive. Just my 2 cents from my experience. t Chris Behnke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be careful with vaccinating because there are cases where that has caused a cat to become positive. That was another thing the vet talked to me about. She feels that as long as they are indoors, it is not required to vaccinate as the vaccaine is not 100% guaranteed. Chris - Original Message - From: Kelly L To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 9:05 PM Subject: Re: Help needed At 03:50 PM 2/26/2007, you wrote As I mentioned I had one positive and 13 negative...ALL stayed negativevery very very hard to catch even my positive cats best friend, mutual grooming cuddling etc never go it and that was 7 years ago. Kelly : Personally, I would not spend the money to test. If you test you have to retest later, etc I would instead vaccinate everyone as I could afford it. Start with the youngest. They are most susceptible. That's just my opinion of what I'd do in your situation. t Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The cats were all spayed and neutered and had all shots except the feline leukemia. They have been to the vet yearly or whenever needed. We aquired so many at once we could not afford the testing and shots. A lady I worked with found 3 kittens in a dumpster, 2 weeks later 4 more - we bottle raised all of them and they all lived. At that same time a stray came in winter and had 4 babies. They all lived also. A month after this we took a trip 500 miles away and found 2 kittens starving in a field in the middle of nowhere. We brought them back. These were tested (not sure why vet decided this) and they were ok at that time. All the cats got along and seldon fought. If they did it was not the biting, scratching, etc... Soon after that a cat roamed up at a barbeque we had. She was young and in heat. We did not want her to get pregnant and she stayed so we brought her in. She was a very shy cat. She liked attention but seldom went near the others. Her eyes, nose, and mouth were clear (no discharge). A few weeks ago she started throwing up. We took her to the vet. She had nver been seriously ill (none have). They are all around 4 yrs, old now. Anyhow the vet said something was probably stuck in her intestines so they operated. All they found was enlarged lymph nodes. They did a biopsy and said they were not cancerous. She started doing better but then it was hard to get her to eat. We took her back in and they said her lungs had fluid in them. They drained it off. After all of this they came back and said she tested postive for leukemia. They recommended putting her to sleep. Now we have a nightmare. We have all the others, plus just paid out $700.00 for a cat that they ended up putting down. Don't know if the operation threw her into it all or what. We are going to have the others tested but it will be over $1000.00. We feel awful. If you don't have the money though it isn't always as some people think to keep up with everything. -Original Message- From: Kelley Saveika Sent: Feb 26, 2007 11:25 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Help needed I don't think anyone can give you odds on that. I would say it would be unlikely that they will all be positive and quite possible that none will be positive. If there is anything I have learned from this list it is that FELV is pretty hard to catch. Were any of the cats vaccinated against FELV? On 2/26/07, Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are the odds of having 15 cats and one tests postive - will the others all be postive? These are cats that are strictly indoors now in a 1200 square foot house. The infected cat was not outwardly sick and di not socialize with the other cats, however they used same litter boxes and ate from same dishes. Any help would be greatly appreciated. All cats are close to same age, different litters, aquired at the same time. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.412 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/702 - Release Date: 2/25/2007 - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus
