Re: Genevieve( VitterVits)
Your new little girl looks like she'll soon have those boys of yours wrapped right around her furry little fingers. She's gorgeous! Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Apr 20, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Sherry DeHaan wrote: Marissa,didn't the link work? THe albums are on the side and you need to click on the Genevieve album Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Congratulations proud mama!!! :) I can't wait to see her pics (though I didn't see them in the albums you sent. :( ). She's lucky to have such a great mom...and once all her brothers come around she'll be lucky to have them too. :) Hugs, head butts, and ear scritchies! MJ, Mousers, and Angel Slinky =^..^= Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nina,yes I have been wanting this girl ever since she arrived at Sids.She had been there for just over a year.I missed out on soo much time with her.But I will make up for it.she jumped up on the bed with me last night and had the BIGGEST purr and she was talking to me.I just started crying(I know I am a BIG baby) :) At least it was tears of joy for once! Right now she is terrorizing my fish. :) I feel soo bad for my boy CousCous,I think his feelings are hurt.He is my sweetest and most friendly baby when it comes to newbies.Well my little girl keeps grumbling at him.And he REALLY wants to give her kisses.I'm sure it will happen soon.she doesn't seem to be bothered much by the other 3. By Jens figures she is almost 2 years old.When she came to us she only weighed 5 pounds.Now she is almost 9 pounds. I will go make a photo album and send you wonderful people the link. Sherry (Proud new momma to a beautiful baby girl) :) Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh Sherry I'm so pleased to read VitterVits is home with you!! The feeling of wanting to take every single furry friend home must be enormous given your volunteer work, if this girl had that great a pull on your heart, I'm positive you did the right thing in bringing her home. I can't wait to see the pictures! Thank you so much for the good news. Let us know how her acclimation goes. I'm imagining her surrounded by her newly acquired harem of boy cats. You fellows behave respectfully with your new sister! How old is she again? Nina Sherry DeHaan wrote: So I did it,I brought home my beautiful felv+ baby girl tonight.So far they are doing pretty good.She is checking out her new home and her new brothers are checking her out.She is doing all the hissing but nothing severe.I sure hope I did the right thing. Dr. Jen said that I better take her tonight cause she had a e-mail about someone interested in adopting her.I think it was a plot to make sure I took her. :) Oh well she is MINE now. :) I will post some pics for you to see her soon.Take care. Sherry and her 5 beautiful babies Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears, one destroys. --Chief Dan George I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated. Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948) Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.
RE: View my photos on Yahoo! Photos
ALL your babies are BEAUTIFUL! They are so cute and fluffy! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry W Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: View my photos on Yahoo! Photos HYPERLINK http://new.photos.yahoo.com/album?c=sherrydj88aid=576460762398716137pid=; wtok=wP6MxXP.iTy4PLq4gIM_1A--ts=1177115036.src=phYahoo! Photos Sherry W has invited you to view photos on Yahoo! Photos (20 photos). HYPERLINK http://new.photos.yahoo.com/album?c=sherrydj88aid=576460762398716137pid=; wtok=wP6MxXP.iTy4PLq4gIM_1A--ts=1177115036.src=phPhoto HYPERLINK http://new.photos.yahoo.com/album?c=sherrydj88aid=576460762398716137pid=; wtok=wP6MxXP.iTy4PLq4gIM_1A--ts=1177115036.src=phView Photos Sherry W has sent some photos to you! If you can't see the button above, use this link: HYPERLINK http://new.photos.yahoo.com/album?c=sherrydj88aid=576460762398716137pid=; wtok=wP6MxXP.iTy4PLq4gIM_1A--ts=1177115036.src=phhttp://new.photos.yahoo. com/album?c=sherrydj88aid=576460762398716137pid=wtok=wP6MxXP.iTy4PLq4gIM_ 1A--ts=1177115036.src=ph Note: This email invitation will expire after 90 days. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.4/768 - Release Date: 4/19/2007 5:32 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.4/768 - Release Date: 4/19/2007 5:32 AM image001.gif Description: Binary data attachment: image002.jpg image003.gif Description: Binary data
Re: OT: Roombie-the new Roomba - for those of you considering purchasing one
Wendy, You need to dump the cup EVERY timed you use your roomba. You also need to pull the filter part out of the cup and dump any cat hair stuck on the white paper filter. I bang them against the trash can a few times to get as much hair/litter out as possible. Then I do a filter change and clean the brushes every week or two. (I use mine basically every day.) I wash the white paper filters with soap and a toothbrush, let them dry, and reuse them instead of buying new ones. tonya wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's performed great, but as far as how much it holds, I haven't opened it yet to clean it out. I need to remember to do that tonight. It's a small thing, but bigger than I thought it would be-at least 1 ft. in diamter. I will try to remember to let you know after I take a look. Mine are shedding like crazy too! :) Wendy --- elizabeth trent wrote: I'm curious -- how much does it hold? I love my purple dyson for animal hair but so help me - we're such a shedding bunch I have to empty it frequently. how does it perform? elizabeth On 4/15/07, wendy wrote: Hey guys, Just wanted to let you guys know that Roombie (our new Roomba Sage for pet owners) went on it's maiden voyage this morning. The kitties were somewhat alarmed at first, but by the time it cleaned for 45 minutes and docked itself, they weren't too concerned with it. Smookie ran over to it when it stopped and has been trying to get the brushes out from underneath it. It's too cute. So far, Roombie did a bang-up job of vacuuming my tile floors-the living room, kitchen, and eating area along with the front entry way and hallway leading from that. That's as far as it could go since all the doors were shut along the hallway. I was very surprised with how well it patterned itself while cleaning. It got in and out of tight spaces. It even tried to eat Smookie's feather toy, but I rescued it. We paid $219 for it at the irobot website, which is the company that makes Roomba. A better deal than at Linens and Things or Bed, Bath, and Beyond. They have a pretty decent special, which includes free shipping, and a free home dock (normally $60); fairly cheap for a Roomba. Normally, I am a very frugal person, but I have bought three vacuum-cleaners in the past few years at about $50 each at Walmart, and all have died. Plus, I don't actually have to do the vacuuming myself, so that itself was worth the extra money. With the tile, as opposed to the carpet we had that hid a lot of dirt, every speck of dirt shows up, and I'm having to sweep every day as it is. So all in all, I'm happy as of day one. We'll see after a month or so if Roombie was worth it. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Could VO help an asymptomatic FeLV+ cat?
I would not use it until she was symptomatic. tonya Lance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I'm sorry that I haven't been posting any lately. I've seen some sad news, and my heart goes out to all who have lost feline friends in the last few weeks. I have a question that will be hard to answer. Really, I'm looking for thoughts and opinions, since I don't think we know enough about Virbagen Omega and feleuk. My vet was recently approved by the FDA to import the standard course of VO for Ember. I have put money aside for quite awhile, hoping that we would get this chance. The thing is, Ember is, for the most part, asymptomatic. She did have an odd spell of anemia (down to 19 last October and subsequently back to 35 for the last few vet visits, starting in November). She also had especially low wbc at the same time, which is now back to low- normal. She seems to have developed a food allergy to Innova EVO dry, though she tolerates EVO canned (and now Felidae) just fine. Ember will have another ELISA to verify her status. If she is still positive, do you think we should go ahead with the VO, even though she seems to be doing pretty well? Thanks, Lance
Fwd: [feline-hyperT] OT:Blue Buffalo Spa Select Kitten Dry Food-Recalled
Never heard of this brand, but it is legit. See website if it applies to your furbabies. :) Wendy Note: forwarded message attached. Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ---BeginMessage--- http://www.bluebuff.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ---End Message---
Fwd: [feline-hyperT] OT:Royal Canin Feline Hypoallergenic HP23 Dry Cat Food Dry Dog Foods Recall
Note: forwarded message attached. Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ---BeginMessage--- * Dry Cat Food - Feline Hypoallergenic HP23 Royal Canin is recalling several formulationshttp://www.royalcanin.us/additional.htmldue to contaminated rice protein concentrate. No illnesses are confirmed in relation to these items. Royal Canin also recently recalled pet food in South Africahttp://www.itchmo.com/read/melamine-in-corn-gluten-linked-to-south-african-illnesses_20070419due to melamine found in corn gluten. Recalled items: * *ROYAL CANIN SENSIBLE CHOICE* (available in pet specialty stores nationwide) Dry Dog Food - Chicken Meal Rice Formula Senior - Lamb Meal Rice Formula Puppy - Lamb Meal Rice Formula Adult - Lamb Meal Rice Formula Senior - Rice Catfish Meal Formula Adult *ROYAL CANIN VETERINARY DIET* (available only in veterinary clinics) Dry Dog Food - Canine Early Cardiac EC 22 - Canine Skin Support SS21 Dry Cat Food - Feline Hypoallergenic HP23 http://www.royalcanin.us/ http://www.royalcanin.us/additional.html http://www.itchmo.com/read/royal-canin-recalls-us-foods_20070420 http://www.howl911.com/#headlines Candace [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] The opinions expressed are the author's own and should not be taken as a substitute for professional veterinary advice. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-hyperT/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-hyperT/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---End Message---
Re: new to the group
Mary, Welcome. You've come to the right place. You'll get a lot of great advice - and support too. I'm glad you're here. elizabeth On 4/20/07, MarieG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, My male cat who is three years old has just been dx with leukemia. The vet said all we can do at this point is try to make him feel better. He apparently has been born with it even though he tested negative. My other cat tested negative. They are indoor cats. He's eating a little. I'm new to all of this and don't know what to expect. I hope he has a chance of getting better. His gums are just starting to get paler. The good thing is he has been coming out of the cabinents. Mary *wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: -- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM-
Re: OT: Roombie-the new Roomba - for those of you considering purchasing one
Tonya - this is was the info I needed. I know most of you know how it is to live in a multi-cat household...and yes, I'm crazy...but I have (now) seven cats am frightfully allergic to them! LOL! My story is that my quality of life would diminish so much if I was allergy-free but without cats that it simply wouldn't be worth it. Therefore...besides 180mg of Allegra plus popping benedryl like candy several times a day and any homeopathic that works...I use the vacuum cleaner so much that I never put it away (for anyone else in my condition -- allergist says -- do not use ceiling fan over the bed -- stirs up the dander -- and wash everything in very hot water several times a week. I put throws over the couches, etc so I can frequently wash and I brush the babies as often as I can). They are precious dear babies and I wouldn't go a single day without any one of them! The purple dyson has been an absolute god-send. I can't recommend it enough...it is one of the most cleverly engineer pieces of equipment I have ever seen. I have very long hair myself and so I used to burn out a motor at least once a year in spite of constantly cleaning the beater bar, changing bags, etc. When I got the dyson...I used it right after I used the old vaccum...and just in my den section alone it removed over a quart of cat hair in one use. Holy cat dander batman!!! It's worth every penny and more! That being said...I'm still considering a roomba for in-between Thanks Tonya...this info doesn't discourage me in the slightest...just lets me know what's involved in the maintenance. And everything with moving parts requires maintenance (or you won't be keeping it very long). elizabeth On 4/21/07, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wendy, You need to dump the cup EVERY timed you use your roomba. You also need to pull the filter part out of the cup and dump any cat hair stuck on the white paper filter. I bang them against the trash can a few times to get as much hair/litter out as possible. Then I do a filter change and clean the brushes every week or two. (I use mine basically every day.) I wash the white paper filters with soap and a toothbrush, let them dry, and reuse them instead of buying new ones. tonya *wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: It's performed great, but as far as how much it holds, I haven't opened it yet to clean it out. I need to remember to do that tonight. It's a small thing, but bigger than I thought it would be-at least 1 ft. in diamter. I will try to remember to let you know after I take a look. Mine are shedding like crazy too! :) Wendy --- elizabeth trent wrote: I'm curious -- how much does it hold? I love my purple dyson for animal hair but so help me - we're such a shedding bunch I have to empty it frequently. how does it perform? elizabeth On 4/15/07, wendy wrote: Hey guys, Just wanted to let you guys know that Roombie (our new Roomba Sage for pet owners) went on it's maiden voyage this morning. The kitties were somewhat alarmed at first, but by the time it cleaned for 45 minutes and docked itself, they weren't too concerned with it. Smookie ran over to it when it stopped and has been trying to get the brushes out from underneath it. It's too cute. So far, Roombie did a bang-up job of vacuuming my tile floors-the living room, kitchen, and eating area along with the front entry way and hallway leading from that. That's as far as it could go since all the doors were shut along the hallway. I was very surprised with how well it patterned itself while cleaning. It got in and out of tight spaces. It even tried to eat Smookie's feather toy, but I rescued it. We paid $219 for it at the irobot website, which is the company that makes Roomba. A better deal than at Linens and Things or Bed, Bath, and Beyond. They have a pretty decent special, which includes free shipping, and a free home dock (normally $60); fairly cheap for a Roomba. Normally, I am a very frugal person, but I have bought three vacuum-cleaners in the past few years at about $50 each at Walmart, and all have died. Plus, I don't actually have to do the vacuuming myself, so that itself was worth the extra money. With the tile, as opposed to the carpet we had that hid a lot of dirt, every speck of dirt shows up, and I'm having to sweep every day as it is. So all in all, I'm happy as of day one. We'll see after a month or so if Roombie was worth it. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~
Re: View my photos on Yahoo! Photos
Wow Sherry! Does Genevieve look kinda like Maizee Grace or is that my imagination??? She's a beautiful girl! :) Wendy --- Sherry W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Sherry Whas invited you to view photos on Yahoo! Photos (20 photos). Sherry W has sent some photos to you! If you can't see the button above, use this link:http://new.photos.yahoo.com/album?c=sherrydj88aid=576460762398716137pid=wtok=wP6MxXP.iTy4PLq4gIM_1A--ts=1177115036.src=ph Note: This email invitation will expire after 90 days. Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Genevieve on Yahoo! Photos
She is a beauty! She looks like my late Effie. Effie was an independent torti stinker. We loved her dearly and will forever miss her. Del - Original Message - From: Sherry W To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 7:23 PM Subject: View my photos on Yahoo! Photos Sherry W has invited you to view photos on Yahoo! Photos (20 photos). Sherry W has sent some photos to you! If you can't see the button above, use this link: http://new.photos.yahoo.com/album?c=sherrydj88aid=576460762398716137pid=wtok=wP6MxXP.iTy4PLq4gIM_1A--ts=1177115036.src=ph Note: This email invitation will expire after 90 days. gifLJpwmensGZ.gif Description: GIF image jpg5pZLemxLza.jpg Description: JPEG image gifIpI3KL5wlV.gif Description: GIF image
Re: View my photos on Yahoo! Photos
You know I never thought she looked like her.Only in the beauty part!! :) - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: View my photos on Yahoo! Photos
Wendy, I thought the same thing. Glad I'm not crazy. She's a very pretty cat. Lance On Apr 21, 2007, at 12:30 PM, wendy wrote: Wow Sherry! Does Genevieve look kinda like Maizee Grace or is that my imagination??? She's a beautiful girl! :) Wendy --- Sherry W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Sherry Whas invited you to view photos on Yahoo! Photos (20 photos). Sherry W has sent some photos to you! If you can't see the button above, use this link:http://new.photos.yahoo.com/album? c=sherrydj88aid=576460762398716137pid=wtok=wP6MxXP.iTy4PLq4gIM_1A-- ts=1177115036.src=ph Note: This email invitation will expire after 90 days. Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT: Roombie-the new Roomba - for those of you considering purchasing one
I love the idea of a Roomba! I've always wanted to attach a big feather to the top and watch the kitties THEN! I have to clean out this house first so we can actually SEE the floor! Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Apr 21, 2007, at 12:28 PM, elizabeth trent wrote: Tonya - this is was the info I needed. I know most of you know how it is to live in a multi-cat household...and yes, I'm crazy...but I have (now) seven cats am frightfully allergic to them! LOL! My story is that my quality of life would diminish so much if I was allergy-free but without cats that it simply wouldn't be worth it. Therefore...besides 180mg of Allegra plus popping benedryl like candy several times a day and any homeopathic that works...I use the vacuum cleaner so much that I never put it away (for anyone else in my condition -- allergist says -- do not use ceiling fan over the bed -- stirs up the dander -- and wash everything in very hot water several times a week. I put throws over the couches, etc so I can frequently wash and I brush the babies as often as I can). They are precious dear babies and I wouldn't go a single day without any one of them! The purple dyson has been an absolute god-send. I can't recommend it enough...it is one of the most cleverly engineer pieces of equipment I have ever seen. I have very long hair myself and so I used to burn out a motor at least once a year in spite of constantly cleaning the beater bar, changing bags, etc. When I got the dyson...I used it right after I used the old vaccum...and just in my den section alone it removed over a quart of cat hair in one use. Holy cat dander batman!!! It's worth every penny and more! That being said...I'm still considering a roomba for in-between Thanks Tonya...this info doesn't discourage me in the slightest...just lets me know what's involved in the maintenance. And everything with moving parts requires maintenance (or you won't be keeping it very long). elizabeth On 4/21/07, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wendy, You need to dump the cup EVERY timed you use your roomba. You also need to pull the filter part out of the cup and dump any cat hair stuck on the white paper filter. I bang them against the trash can a few times to get as much hair/litter out as possible. Then I do a filter change and clean the brushes every week or two. (I use mine basically every day.) I wash the white paper filters with soap and a toothbrush, let them dry, and reuse them instead of buying new ones. tonya wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's performed great, but as far as how much it holds, I haven't opened it yet to clean it out. I need to remember to do that tonight. It's a small thing, but bigger than I thought it would be-at least 1 ft. in diamter. I will try to remember to let you know after I take a look. Mine are shedding like crazy too! :) Wendy --- elizabeth trent wrote: I'm curious -- how much does it hold? I love my purple dyson for animal hair but so help me - we're such a shedding bunch I have to empty it frequently. how does it perform? elizabeth On 4/15/07, wendy wrote: Hey guys, Just wanted to let you guys know that Roombie (our new Roomba Sage for pet owners) went on it's maiden voyage this morning. The kitties were somewhat alarmed at first, but by the time it cleaned for 45 minutes and docked itself, they weren't too concerned with it. Smookie ran over to it when it stopped and has been trying to get the brushes out from underneath it. It's too cute. So far, Roombie did a bang-up job of vacuuming my tile floors-the living room, kitchen, and eating area along with the front entry way and hallway leading from that. That's as far as it could go since all the doors were shut along the hallway. I was very surprised with how well it patterned itself while cleaning. It got in and out of tight spaces. It even tried to eat Smookie's feather toy, but I rescued it. We paid $219 for it at the irobot website, which is the company that makes Roomba. A better deal than at Linens and Things or Bed, Bath, and Beyond. They have a pretty decent special, which includes free shipping, and a free home dock (normally $60); fairly cheap for a Roomba. Normally, I am a very frugal person, but I have bought three vacuum-cleaners in the past few years at about $50 each at Walmart, and all have died. Plus, I don't actually have to do the vacuuming myself, so that itself was worth the extra money. With the tile, as opposed to the carpet we had that hid a lot of dirt, every speck of dirt shows up, and I'm having to sweep every day as it is. So all in all, I'm happy as of day one. We'll see after a month or so if Roombie was worth it. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that
Re: follow-up point! thanks belinda! Re: an important reminder - sorry, kinda long:)
No apologies necessary, dearie. You and your furkids are so lucky to have such great resources. Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Apr 19, 2007, at 3:04 PM, Barb Moermond wrote: My sincerest apologies my dear friends!!! I keep forgetting that not everyone is as lucky as I am. I am incredibly spoiled by the vets I have and their dedication to continuing education and openness to the information I’ve given them from the list. I was speaking from the ideal in my head that all vets are like mine and that vets, having the lengthy education they have, are (supposed to be) equipped to evaluate different therapies and treatments and studies and then be able to make an educated, informed decision WITH the owner as to treatment. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous - Original Message From: Moermond, Barb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 2:32:12 PM Subject: an important reminder - sorry, kinda long:) Hey gang, I've noticed some potentially disturbing trends in how information is being presented to the list as a whole; both with various treatments and external resources. I think that the first thing we need to remember is that we are here to help each other and share experiences with the possibility of our past experiences providing more information for a new FeLV+ parent to have in their decision-making arsenal. With the high emotions that come with the territory, sometimes the words that appear on the screen aren't read with the spirit they were written - we're all human and should try not to be condemning of a person dealing with these difficult issues who makes decisions that WE, in all our vast knowledge and skill, would NOT have made. Ultimately, we have to remember that it is each of us individually who has responsibility for his/her own furkid - we're not raising horses (camels!) by committee here ya know. The asking for additional information (experience etc) and advice is NOT a request for the list to make the decision (not that every/anyone posts that way as a rule, but you know what I mean)!! I think that the most important thing this list has done over the years is create this amazing e-family. My Ninja passed in 1998 and my boys are negative and I am still here because I love you guys! AND to share if anything Ninja and I lived through could help someone else. We need to SAY that X is what we tried and it worked for us as opposed to saying X WORKS! We all know that every kit is different and what works for one won't for another and, as with mixing, it has to work for the whole family. For those of us who have dealt withFeLV in the past or have been living with it for a time, we may forget how terrifying the diagnosis can be and how poorly we were initially filtering information. If it isn't said in as many words, personal opinion and experience can be read as FACT and that's not fair to thenewbies. Especially considering that WE ARE NOT VETERINARIANS!!! I remember when I first found out Ninja's positive status and I was DEVASTATED. But I found this list. I found a vet whose own cat was positive. I did a TON of research, but not everybody thinks to do that or can filter through the panic. Because we have experience, we can let newbies know, hey, this is a possible treatment oh, you live in X, I've heard great things about this clinic there etc. But we should also remind everyone (especially new people) that they need to do their own research outside this list and figure out what makes the most sense to them - regardless of what everyone's OPINIONS on here are. Many topics come up that have been covered in great detail in the archives!! Searching the archives for additional information on any number of topics related to our FeLV+ kits should be one of the first things we do - newbies and oldies both. There is a wealth of experience and information available through this group and its members. Also, knowing what an amazing medium of communication the internet is, we have to be particularly careful in what we are saying about external resources, be they shelters or hospitals or clinics or rescue organizations or specific vets etc etc. Negative comments especially need to be framed in the this is MY experience with WXY as opposed to OMG DID YOU HEAR WHAT THEY DO AT WXY AND IT'S THEIR POLICY. So let's all remember to share personal opinion and experience as such. e.g. we tried X and... y didn't work for us, but z did wxy was really helpful (or not) to me when I called for info Further, deponent sayeth not. We now return to your regularly scheduled list-serve.
Please add Simms to the Candlelighting Ceremony on Monday
Simms was 4 years old and feline leukemia positive. I had hopes that he was just a carrier as he did so well for the first three years I had him with me but he became very ill a couple of months ago, with sneezing and lots of congestion. He was very special. Such a big sweet guy. He had this tender, kind of puzzled but curious, look about him and he never fought with anyone. He was very friendly with the other cats, such a sweetheart. This list's dear Tamara found him at a beautiful waterfront park there in Maryland, along with his brother, Tambours. She posted on this very list about his needing a home and that he was feline leukemia positive. I was lucky enough to be chosen by Tamara. As I told her today on the phone, I thanked her for giving him to me because he gave me just pure joy and sunshine every single day. Tamara loved him so much that she drove 18 hours (wasn't it, T?), straight, to deliver him to me in Michigan from Maryland. (She also brought me Sophie that day, to those of you who are familiar with Sophie). He was a pretty peachy shade of color with that lovely target-shaped swirl on his sides and big creamy white feet and some white on his chest and face, too. He had big, tall elegant ears that I loved to stroke when he let me, finally. He was pretty big but when he meowed, it was so soft and high pitched, it was adorable. He didn't meow often as he was very uncomplaining. When Tamara left him with me, she told me I would find that he was a very special cat and she was right, indeed. :-) He must have died overnight, although he still felt a bit warm when I lifted him. I woke up and thought he was not breathing so I let the dogs out and had a better look and yes, my sweet darling boy is gone. His eyes were half open but he did not look scared or in pain. He was stretched out like he was having a good nap and his whiskers were pointing forward. I'm not sure what that meant but I am consoling myself by thinking he did go peacefully and unafraid. I got a package from Tamara yesterday. She had sent two kitty pop-up tents for Simms and the other cats, to cheer Simms up. They are so cool! He was not interested in the tent but he did want to sleep on the crinkly soft pad. I am kind of in shock and grief-torn because I thought he was doing a bit better after seeming like he would die earlier this week. He was diagnosed with either pneumonia or cancer last month and had been on two antibiotics at a time for a while and single antibiotics constantly, along with pain meds towards the end. He wouldn't eat during his last week or so but he would let me force-feed him A/D and chicken baby food along with squirts of water all day long. He was a bit interested in the window and the birdies outside yesterday and he let me stroke his soft head over and over which he never trusted me to do much, previously, so I had thought maybe he was a bit better and would continue to heal. I buried him earlier today with his Christmas stocking and his little mouse and this cute stuffed animal that Tamara sent with him, a purple beanbag bear. It was a beautiful day and that just made it even harder. He was such a dear polite gentle sweet funny gentleman of a cat, a very special, loving boy and I loved him mightily. Here is a link to a few of my favorite photos of him that I uploaded online in case someone would like to see what he looked like: http://tinyurl.com/38skop Well, sorry for this being so long but I know you guys, if anyone, would understand. Anne and angels Simms, Jimi Too Cool and Bugsy along with Sophie and my other living cats and dogs in Michigan
Re: Please add Simms to the Candlelighting Ceremony on Monday
He was a boofoo (beautiful) boy, Anne. Love from Tee, Billi Bi, Lilibet and the 3 Orange Boyz (Sammy, Charlie and Teddy) Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Apr 21, 2007, at 11:36 PM, Annieb wrote: Simms was 4 years old and feline leukemia positive. I had hopes that he was just a carrier as he did so well for the first three years I had him with me but he became very ill a couple of months ago, with sneezing and lots of congestion. He was very special. Such a big sweet guy. He had this tender, kind of puzzled but curious, look about him and he never fought with anyone. He was very friendly with the other cats, such a sweetheart. This list's dear Tamara found him at a beautiful waterfront park there in Maryland, along with his brother, Tambours. She posted on this very list about his needing a home and that he was feline leukemia positive. I was lucky enough to be chosen by Tamara. As I told her today on the phone, I thanked her for giving him to me because he gave me just pure joy and sunshine every single day. Tamara loved him so much that she drove 18 hours (wasn't it, T?), straight, to deliver him to me in Michigan from Maryland. (She also brought me Sophie that day, to those of you who are familiar with Sophie). He was a pretty peachy shade of color with that lovely target-shaped swirl on his sides and big creamy white feet and some white on his chest and face, too. He had big, tall elegant ears that I loved to stroke when he let me, finally. He was pretty big but when he meowed, it was so soft and high pitched, it was adorable. He didn't meow often as he was very uncomplaining. When Tamara left him with me, she told me I would find that he was a very special cat and she was right, indeed. :-) He must have died overnight, although he still felt a bit warm when I lifted him. I woke up and thought he was not breathing so I let the dogs out and had a better look and yes, my sweet darling boy is gone. His eyes were half open but he did not look scared or in pain. He was stretched out like he was having a good nap and his whiskers were pointing forward. I'm not sure what that meant but I am consoling myself by thinking he did go peacefully and unafraid. I got a package from Tamara yesterday. She had sent two kitty pop-up tents for Simms and the other cats, to cheer Simms up. They are so cool! He was not interested in the tent but he did want to sleep on the crinkly soft pad. I am kind of in shock and grief-torn because I thought he was doing a bit better after seeming like he would die earlier this week. He was diagnosed with either pneumonia or cancer last month and had been on two antibiotics at a time for a while and single antibiotics constantly, along with pain meds towards the end. He wouldn't eat during his last week or so but he would let me force-feed him A/D and chicken baby food along with squirts of water all day long. He was a bit interested in the window and the birdies outside yesterday and he let me stroke his soft head over and over which he never trusted me to do much, previously, so I had thought maybe he was a bit better and would continue to heal. I buried him earlier today with his Christmas stocking and his little mouse and this cute stuffed animal that Tamara sent with him, a purple beanbag bear. It was a beautiful day and that just made it even harder. He was such a dear polite gentle sweet funny gentleman of a cat, a very special, loving boy and I loved him mightily. Here is a link to a few of my favorite photos of him that I uploaded online in case someone would like to see what he looked like: http://tinyurl.com/38skop Well, sorry for this being so long but I know you guys, if anyone, would understand. Anne and angels Simms, Jimi Too Cool and Bugsy along with Sophie and my other living cats and dogs in Michigan
Re: OT: Roombie-the new Roomba - for those of you considering purchasing one
Hey Tonya, Thanks for the tips! I will definitely be doing everything you suggested. I love the tip on washing the filters and reusing them! :) Wendy --- catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wendy, You need to dump the cup EVERY timed you use your roomba. You also need to pull the filter part out of the cup and dump any cat hair stuck on the white paper filter. I bang them against the trash can a few times to get as much hair/litter out as possible. Then I do a filter change and clean the brushes every week or two. (I use mine basically every day.) I wash the white paper filters with soap and a toothbrush, let them dry, and reuse them instead of buying new ones. tonya wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's performed great, but as far as how much it holds, I haven't opened it yet to clean it out. I need to remember to do that tonight. It's a small thing, but bigger than I thought it would be-at least 1 ft. in diamter. I will try to remember to let you know after I take a look. Mine are shedding like crazy too! :) Wendy --- elizabeth trent wrote: I'm curious -- how much does it hold? I love my purple dyson for animal hair but so help me - we're such a shedding bunch I have to empty it frequently. how does it perform? elizabeth On 4/15/07, wendy wrote: Hey guys, Just wanted to let you guys know that Roombie (our new Roomba Sage for pet owners) went on it's maiden voyage this morning. The kitties were somewhat alarmed at first, but by the time it cleaned for 45 minutes and docked itself, they weren't too concerned with it. Smookie ran over to it when it stopped and has been trying to get the brushes out from underneath it. It's too cute. So far, Roombie did a bang-up job of vacuuming my tile floors-the living room, kitchen, and eating area along with the front entry way and hallway leading from that. That's as far as it could go since all the doors were shut along the hallway. I was very surprised with how well it patterned itself while cleaning. It got in and out of tight spaces. It even tried to eat Smookie's feather toy, but I rescued it. We paid $219 for it at the irobot website, which is the company that makes Roomba. A better deal than at Linens and Things or Bed, Bath, and Beyond. They have a pretty decent special, which includes free shipping, and a free home dock (normally $60); fairly cheap for a Roomba. Normally, I am a very frugal person, but I have bought three vacuum-cleaners in the past few years at about $50 each at Walmart, and all have died. Plus, I don't actually have to do the vacuuming myself, so that itself was worth the extra money. With the tile, as opposed to the carpet we had that hid a lot of dirt, every speck of dirt shows up, and I'm having to sweep every day as it is. So all in all, I'm happy as of day one. We'll see after a month or so if Roombie was worth it. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT: Roombie-the new Roomba - for those of you considering purchasing one
For anyone in a multi-cat household, I highly recomment my Ridgid 5 hp wet/dry shop vac from Home Depot. Cost me less than $70. Sucks the fixtures off the wall if you're not careful. The only issue that I have with it is storage space -- I need a four legged table with enough spread that I can put the vaccuum underneath and throw a tablecloth over the top. This vaccuum is amazing. No bags -- I dump the canister and can bleach clean the inside of the canister. It has cut my vaccuuming time to 1/3 what it used to be.. With an extension cord and just the hoses and attachments that came with it I can do almost my entire house without stopping. The hose is extra thick and can suck up the contents of a litterbox, if you are so inclined. The edger attachment is great for getting barf (and worse) off a rug. Best $70 I ever spent. Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love the idea of a Roomba! I've always wanted to attach a big feather to the top and watch the kitties THEN! I have to clean out this house first so we can actually SEE the floor! Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Apr 21, 2007, at 12:28 PM, elizabeth trent wrote: Tonya - this is was the info I needed. I know most of you know how it is to live in a multi-cat household...and yes, I'm crazy...but I have (now) seven cats am frightfully allergic to them! LOL! My story is that my quality of life would diminish so much if I was allergy-free but without cats that it simply wouldn't be worth it. Therefore...besides 180mg of Allegra plus popping benedryl like candy several times a day and any homeopathic that works...I use the vacuum cleaner so much that I never put it away (for anyone else in my condition -- allergist says -- do not use ceiling fan over the bed -- stirs up the dander -- and wash everything in very hot water several times a week. I put throws over the couches, etc so I can frequently wash and I brush the babies as often as I can). They are precious dear babies and I wouldn't go a single day without any one of them! The purple dyson has been an absolute god-send. I can't recommend it enough...it is one of the most cleverly engineer pieces of equipment I have ever seen. I have very long hair myself and so I used to burn out a motor at least once a year in spite of constantly cleaning the beater bar, changing bags, etc. When I got the dyson...I used it right after I used the old vaccum...and just in my den section alone it removed over a quart of cat hair in one use. Holy cat dander batman!!! It's worth every penny and more! That being said...I'm still considering a roomba for in-between Thanks Tonya...this info doesn't discourage me in the slightest...just lets me know what's involved in the maintenance. And everything with moving parts requires maintenance (or you won't be keeping it very long). elizabeth On 4/21/07, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wendy, You need to dump the cup EVERY timed you use your roomba. You also need to pull the filter part out of the cup and dump any cat hair stuck on the white paper filter. I bang them against the trash can a few times to get as much hair/litter out as possible. Then I do a filter change and clean the brushes every week or two. (I use mine basically every day.) I wash the white paper filters with soap and a toothbrush, let them dry, and reuse them instead of buying new ones. tonya wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's performed great, but as far as how much it holds, I haven't opened it yet to clean it out. I need to remember to do that tonight. It's a small thing, but bigger than I thought it would be-at least 1 ft. in diamter. I will try to remember to let you know after I take a look. Mine are shedding like crazy too! :) Wendy --- elizabeth trent wrote: I'm curious -- how much does it hold? I love my purple dyson for animal hair but so help me - we're such a shedding bunch I have to empty it frequently. how does it perform? elizabeth On 4/15/07, wendy wrote: Hey guys, Just wanted to let you guys know that Roombie (our new Roomba Sage for pet owners) went on it's maiden voyage this morning. The kitties were somewhat alarmed at first, but by the time it cleaned for 45 minutes and docked itself, they weren't too concerned with it. Smookie ran over to it when it stopped and has been trying to get the brushes out from underneath it. It's too cute. So far, Roombie did a bang-up job of vacuuming my tile floors-the living room, kitchen, and eating area along with the front entry way and hallway leading from that. That's as far as it could go since all the doors were shut along the hallway. I was very surprised with how well it patterned itself while cleaning. It got in and out of tight spaces. It even tried to eat Smookie's feather toy, but I rescued
Fwd: [feline-hyperT] OT:FDA Opens Criminal Investigation
Note: forwarded message attached. Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ---BeginMessage--- The Food and Drug Administrationhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/related-topics.html?subject=U.S.+Food+and+Drug+Administrationhas opened a criminal investigation in the widening pet food contamination scandal, officials said yesterday, as it was confirmed that tainted pork might have made its way onto human dinner plates in California. More than 100 hogs that ate contaminated food at a custom slaughterhouse in Californiahttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/related-topics.html?subject=California's Central Valley were sold to private individuals and to an unnamed licensed facility in Northern California during the past 2 1/2 weeks. The hogs consumed feed that contained rice protein tainted with melamine, the industrial chemical that has sickened and killed dogs and cats around the world. Almost a dozen companies have found that they have used melamine-contaminated ingredients from Chinahttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/related-topics.html?subject=Chinain their animal foods, either wheat gluten, corn gluten or rice protein concentrate. In the United Stateshttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/related-topics.html?subject=United+States, more than 60 million containers of cat and dog food have been pulled from the market in the past five weeks. Late Thursday, Royal Canin USAhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/related-topics.html?subject=Royal+Canin+SAbecame the most recent company to recall pet foods. Some of its brands were contaminated with rice protein concentrate. Its South Africanhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/related-topics.html?subject=South+Africasubsidiary said contaminated corn gluten had been linked to the deaths of 30 pets there. Five companies received the contaminated Chinese rice protein concentrate. Three firms have identified themselves by announcing recalls; the other two are not publicly known because the FDA will not name them until the companies say they used contaminants in their products. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/20/AR2007042002016.html?referrer=emailarticle Candace [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ---End Message---
Re: sigh. don't forget to keep checking for recall news.
Ha ha, Susan, those scientists are probably Dog People! Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Apr 19, 2007, at 5:14 PM, Susan Hoffman wrote: I am certain that cats can taste sweets and that some cats actually have a sweet tooth. I've had a few who had a definite preference for sugary things. The scientists who claim otherwise should live with more cats. Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Tigger likes donuts. He gets a small taste every now and again. I was very surprised when he took a bite right out of the mini-donut I had in my hand! Gina Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 3 Orange Boyz will try anything! Muffins are a great favorite and since they are not supposed to like sweet things I assume it's the texture. And doughnut holes! Although, I have to say, I don't think those scientists know everything. Maybe some kitties DO enjoy sweet things! Also, my cat Jack used to gaze at himself in the mirror--it was just so neat! And one evening I was snacking on prunes and that's when I discovered that Billi Bi my tuxedo boy runs off with the plastic lid. He looks so funny going down the hall with that big yellow lid in his mouth! The first time he walked around with it he misjudged it's width and bumped into the doorframe! Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Apr 18, 2007, at 1:55 PM, Belinda wrote: That seems to be true for the most part because those I've had since kittenhood have had a greater variety in their diet, including human food and Joey being one will eat just about anything, he is not picky at all. My others I got as strays with unknown past histories, some will eat a variety and some will not, they will eat one or two things and that is it!! i was just fascinated by the part about cats, as a species, imprinting on food and non-food when very young. makes so much sense in terms of those who will kill for human food while others couldn't care less, and how difficult it is to change their diets. i'm hoping that one of the books will go into that aspect more fully.. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com Visit my Tigger Tales site! Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: new addition to the family
Jeni, Wow! You are a saint welcoming another FeLV+ baby into your loving home. I hope that he's with you for years to come. I can't help with the kittens, except to wish you good luck in finding them homes quickly. :) Wendy --- JENI RECA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I just wanted to write and thank everyone for thier kind words about Hillman's passing and also wanted to say sorry to anyone that has lost a baby in the last few weeks. After we lost Hillman a few weeks ago, I wasn't on the search to find another feluk, but what do you know I just brought another one home. His name is Meer (means chief in hindu (i think hindu)) and he is a beautiful big black and white male. He was pulled from a city shelter and we found out he was feluk positive and now he is home with me. He is on a few meds, for his cold and eye discharge...fun fun fun. Hopefully the girls, will like him when they get a formally introduction. Poor guy has to live in my bathroom right now. And now on to a plea I might have to find homes for possibly 4 kittens, right now they are only three weeks old but only one tested positive on the snap and IFA and needs a home. I am willing to foster until 8 weeks old, but can not keep...she is really really cute...tabby and white. The other three her litter mates did not test positive on the snap and so are going to be re-tested in july and hopefully they do not test positive, but if they do then they will need homes too. Anyone out there want to help...willing to travel and will supply food and liter box and carrier. If need a longer fostering then I can do that, but not too long. My husband has been a saint, but I think the cat I just brought in, will be the cat that broke the camels back (my husband's back) and I can not keep another one. Please help, I know it's easier to adopt out babies then adults. In the new york area...please email me with any questions or suggestions! Thank you Jeni Nookie, Cree and Meer _ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
