Re: OT: on the subject of pee (long) - kitty condo
The problem with that company is that they really gouge you on shipping:( Unless you can order $500 worth, in which case it'd be a screaming deal as the shipping would be free. On 5/23/07, Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The pink is adorable! Great price, too! Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 23, 2007, at 12:49 PM, Nina wrote: Hi Pam, Here's the link to the kitty condo I got recently. It was actually $89 bucks plus shipping. I got it from Petedge.com. Phaewryn had posted the site to the ot list and MC commented on the condo, (so I figured it had to be a good one). I'm very pleased with it. It folds for easy storage too. I'm sorry I chickened out and got the black one instead of the pink one :-) . http://www.petedge.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=4851itemType=PRODUCTiMainCat=0iSubCat=0iSubSubCat=0iProductID=4851AS=1 Pam Norman wrote: Nina, where did you get the rollaway kitty condo? Pam -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Gandalf! http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
Re: Update on Kisa
Hi Cassandra, It isn't unusual for a cat with Fatty Liver disease to vomit after some meals, of course it isn't what we want and sometimes smaller, more frequent meals will keep that from happening. But I can tell you absolutely the ONLY thing that fixes fatty liver is food, and enough food. Without that the outcome is death period, not saying that to be mean or scare anyone, it's a fact plain and simple. Some cats will actually get worse before they get better. One girl on the Assist feeding list I used to belong to had a cat that was diagnosed with HL (hepatic lipidosis, otherwise known as Fatty Liver disease), she was assist feeding and came home for lunch to feed him and he had gone from his skin being slightly yellow to bright yellow. It was touch and go for days but he eventually started improving, he was so sick he couldn't hardly move for days, maybe even weeks, it's been a while since I was on the list. But I do know it took a month or more before he was feeling pretty decent and he is alive and well today 6 or so years later with no ill effects. Her vet was pretty sure he wasn't going to make it, but he did. SHe was feeding him every hour or two to make sure she got enough food into him once he was feeling better she could do bigger meals with more time in between. Buddie also hated the syringe feedings, I had to wrap her in a towel and after a week I decided a feeding tube would be less stressful and she loved getting fed through her feeding tube. She would run to the couch and wait for me when she heard me getting her syringes ready. She laid with all fours under her and purred when I fed her, then she would flop over and take a nap when we were done. She wasn't very happy when I was weaning her off it. She was suppose to get 4 IV chemo treatments along with prednisolone and then after the IV chemo, leukeran (chemo pill given at home) and prednisolone until she passed which could be as little as 6 months or as long as years. I did 3 of the 4 IV chmos and then stopped them, she wasn't eating and I freaked out (I would not stop it if I had it to do over again), we continued the prednisolone and she lived a total of 1 year and 1 month after diagnosis. I really believe if I hadn't of freaked out because of her not eating and continued the chemo she would still be alive today (she passed in July of 2004). If I ever have another cat with cancer I will get a feeding tube to help with eating and continue the chemo, I know so many cats that have gone into remission with chemo treatment, some have no side effects, some don't eat well for the first few treatments until the chemo is kicking some cancer butt and then they are like they always were, I can't tell you how many cat parents say that after a few weeks of chemo!! Some cats on the lymphoma list I'm on are 3, 4, 5 and even more years into remission and still going strong. Sambe a FeLV+ has been in remission about 3 years he got cancer around the same time as Buddie a few months later I believe. Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Update on Kisa
Here are a couple of sites with info on Hepatic Lipidosis: http://www.gcvs.com/imaging/ultrasound/lipidosis.htm http://www.thecatsite.com/Health/85/Feline-Hepatic-Lipidosis.html http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=1cat=1327articleid=217 I disagree with the statement on their site shown below, most of the cats on the assist feeding list with this are *NOT* overweight: *Most cats with feline hepatic lipidosis are older, overweight, and have gone through some stress which has caused a decrease or lack of appetite. *http://www.vet.uga.edu/vpp/clerk/turner/index.php* * -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Update on Kisa
You can get pepcid as an injection and then her liver wouldn't have to deal with it. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Update on Kisa
Does it look like her eyesight may be failing? Has her blood pressure been checked, high BP can cause blindness. It's reversible in some cases if caught and treated right away. The vet said she wasn't dehydrated, and she is drinking some on her own (though she's acting odd when she drinks, she sticks her paw in the water, digs at it, then licks off her paw). I've never seen her drink that way before. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Update on Kisa
Cassandra, Please join the AssistedFeeding list on y ahoogroups. Also you may have to consider a feeding tube for Kisa. It is essential that she get food if she is throwing it up, the only thing left may be tube feeding. It is not the bugaboo that many think. I tube fed Otto for 6 weeks it was a piece of cake. He had a PEG tube that went directly into his stomach. Kisa needs food. She is only going to go downhill if she doesn't get it keep it down. Pam C J wrote: Ugh, Kisa vomited again about 3 hours after I syringe fed her and gave her the pills. There seemed to be quite a bit of food vomited up. I hoping that a few hours is enough to absorb the pills and get some nutrition? I syringe fed her some more, and am hoping she can keep that down. It seems like I have the most luck with her keeping things down if I give them right after she vomits. This syringe feeding is sure an awful process. She hates it so much, and the food gets all over her and me. Cassandra - Original Message - *From:* C J mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:20 PM *Subject:* Update on Kisa Well, after going to the vet today, it's not looking good for Kisa. She has elevated bilirubin in her blood/urine, and elevated number of lymphocytes. Therefore they believe she has a liver disease, possibly lymphosarcoma. The only way they can tell for sure what the problem is with her liver is to do a biopsy which means surgery.They didn't suggest doing this though because of the FeLV and her immune system being compromised. They gave me prednisone and baytril for her, though i'm really not sure how she'll handle keeping those down when she is vomiting so easily. They're hoping the steroid will make her feel a little better and maybe regain some appetite. I've really got to try and get her to eat something, she hasn't eaten since Saturday night now. I don't understand why this is all happening at once. First I watched Tomi get sicker and sicker for nearly 2 months. As soon as he started getting better, Koda got sick with kidney and liver failure, and died. Now, barely a week later Kisa goes from being a super healthy and active cat to death's door. I haven't even had enough time to get used to Koda being gone, now its another crisis situation. This is all after having nothing but healthy, happy, and active cats for 12 years. I used to think how awful it would be if my house burned down while I was away and my 5 cats were inside. What is happening now is almost worse than that since it is so prolonged and i'm beginning to wonder if something I am doing is causing all this (like feeding raw food). I've always kept my cats indoors because I didn't want them to get run over by a car, etcbut they seem to be no safer indoors. Sorry for venting on you all, its just really starting to affect me, both emotionally and financially. Cassandra No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM
Re: ot - Ever ubiquitous pee
You Win Sally On 5/22/07, Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Sunset had a great way of letting me know she was displeased when I was gone one time. She peed in the toaster oven I had no idea until I put in an English muffin. Godawful smell! That toaster oven was history the one that replaced it always had its door shut when not in use. Didn't stop her from peeing on top tho, but I was wise to her by then. The take the cake story tho is a kitty named Fluffy (yes, really!) who belonged to friends of mine who adored her (had to!). She had a thinig about pooping in odd places she was deadly accurate in getting her leavings exactly where she wanted them to be. Her piece de resistance was the well of the windshield wipers on their car! Totally undiscovered until they backed out of the garage into a rainstorm. Turned on the wipers oh m'god instant liquid poop smeared all over the windshields!!! You can't beat that! Pam Sally Davis wrote: My Spike was banned from the old trailer for a couple years after peeing on the stove top. Yeah that bakes the smell as well. It was horrible. Not that I cooked that much. I finally had to build a new house on the same land due to hurricane Isabel. The cats all lived outside while we stayed in a motel. She was still not allowed in the house. She has since redeemed herself and stays in my room, But if she ever pulls a stunt like that she will be outside kitty again. The heat vent is another spot she hit in the trailer. I am not sure how you can get rid of the odor though. Sally On 5/21/07, *Nina* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember the thread where everyone was trying to figure out where the urine odor was coming from? (Kelley, I'm sure you do). Well, someone has contaminated my dryer. I'm not sure how they did it. I'm assuming they backed up, aimed and fired into the crevices around the opening of the door, but I guess it could be in the air filter. All I know is that I've scrubbed and sprayed and scrubbed some more. Every time I think it's safe to dry a load of clothes they come out of the dryer smelling not springtime fresh, but of fresh kitty. Whoever marked the dryer must be thrilled, everything smells of their scent now. Any suggestions? Do I have to get a new dryer and house it behind chain link? Nina
