Re: to Kelly L

[Kelly L]

At 07:24 PM 7/5/2007, you wrote:

Hi, Kelly, could you forward me the study done by italian group on 
Alferon again?  Someone needs it and I don't have a copy as I 
changed my email address.. thank you!


Sure Hideyo, but please give me your email address as I cannot send 
it to the group as a pdf file,,,I won't go through.

Kelly




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Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations

[Susan Dubose]

Hi Laura!

You might also try the "Missing Link" food supplement powder.

You can purchase it through Drs. Foster & Smith, and soem other animal supply 
websites.

OR, the veterinary formula is even better, which I believe, you have to get 
through a vet.


Susan J. DuBose  >^..^<
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  "As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws."
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 9:19 PM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations


  Isabella is doing well on the prednisone. She is again purring and kneading 
and following Lisa around. 
  The hemobartonella test came back negative. Here is an email from a 
homeopathic vet/friend. I hope others can find some helpful suggestions here
  Laurie

  Hi Laurie.  This little girl is very sick.  I know you probably know this but 
as a general rule once a FeLV-positive cat gets sick they generally do not 
return to a "normal" state of health again.  And this cat is sick - her 
bloodwork is horrible. It looks like your vet is doing everything possible to 
boost her immune system and get her fever to abate.   Prednisone will possibly 
keep her comfortable for awhile - (which probably should become the primary 
goal).  If Isabella feels better on the prednisone then I would keep her on it. 
 I think doxycycline is probably worth trying - it can cause anorexia but my 
experience with it has been good (if the medicine is given with water and dosed 
correctly).  It would not hurt to start giving her some supplements in her food 
- antioxidants and such.  A good supplement would be Vitamin C (250mg daily in 
food).  I would also start adding a little plain yoghurt & nutritional (torula) 
yeast (great source of Vitamin B) to the food.  Vitamin B helps stimulate 
appetite in addition to many other great things.If Isabella is not already 
on a home-made or high quality food (Wellness, Solid Gold, Newman's Own, etc) I 
would immediately put her on such a diet.  I would recommend feeding her the 
canned form instead of dry food.  And I would do whatever is possible to keep 
her life stress-free. 

to Kelly L

[HIDEYO YAMAMOTO]

Hi, Kelly, could you forward me the study done by italian group on Alferon 
again?  Someone needs it and I don't have a copy as I changed my email 
address.. thank you!

Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations

[laurieskatz]

Isabella is doing well on the prednisone. She is again purring and kneading and 
following Lisa around. 
The hemobartonella test came back negative. Here is an email from a homeopathic 
vet/friend. I hope others can find some helpful suggestions here
Laurie

Hi Laurie.  This little girl is very sick.  I know you probably know this but 
as a general rule once a FeLV-positive cat gets sick they generally do not 
return to a "normal" state of health again.  And this cat is sick - her 
bloodwork is horrible. It looks like your vet is doing everything possible to 
boost her immune system and get her fever to abate.   Prednisone will possibly 
keep her comfortable for awhile - (which probably should become the primary 
goal).  If Isabella feels better on the prednisone then I would keep her on it. 
 I think doxycycline is probably worth trying - it can cause anorexia but my 
experience with it has been good (if the medicine is given with water and dosed 
correctly).  It would not hurt to start giving her some supplements in her food 
- antioxidants and such.  A good supplement would be Vitamin C (250mg daily in 
food).  I would also start adding a little plain yoghurt & nutritional (torula) 
yeast (great source of Vitamin B) to the food.  Vitamin B helps stimulate 
appetite in addition to many other great things.If Isabella is not already 
on a home-made or high quality food (Wellness, Solid Gold, Newman's Own, etc) I 
would immediately put her on such a diet.  I would recommend feeding her the 
canned form instead of dry food.  And I would do whatever is possible to keep 
her life stress-free. 

Re: OT Monkee

[Sally Davis]

Marylyn

Thanks and Yes I know.

Sally


On 7/4/07, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Life is a terminal disease.  We start dying the minute we take a
breathe.  Don't feel sorry for Junior.  He is a very loved and cared for
beingand he loves you too.

Re: Lucky Lady

[Kelley Saveika]

Thanks so much...Dr. Samon had adopted her from me in April...so I know she
was getting the best care...and she had a few happy months before she got
sick..too few.

On 7/5/07, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'm so sorry, Kelly.  I hope you find out what is going on (if there's
anything besides a run of horrible luck).
tonya

*Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:

Well, he euthanized Lucky Lady at noon and sent a sample of her liver off
for testing.  So she's gone too...

On 6/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  In a message dated 6/28/07 2:49:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> When a vet says a cat is positive for FIP he is wrong, he may be
> positive and with high titers for the corona viruses that are suspected to
> cause FIP but that doesn't in most cases mean he has FIP.
>
>  *THANK YOU, BELINDA*
> *MY FEELINGS EXACTLY!*
> (And, I strongly believe w/ *all my heart*, that my Puma does *not* have
> FIP. ) Also, I believe he *does* have high titers for
> corona.  He!!, I rescued him from a nasty [putting it *mildly* ]
> high kill shelter  And, the poor 'ole boy didn't even stand a chance!!!
> He was *immediately* put on "Death Row" - *only because of his
> seniority! *  G.  I'm just so happy I had "connections" with
> the rescue community! [Just wish I still could be able to "save" more
> like my boy.  I have nightmares about all the poor babies that face that
> horrific dilemma..]
> The toxo diagnosis I do believe.  And, he recovered 101%.  But when I
> "questioned" my vet on the FIP, well, let's just say, deep down, he *
> knew* I was right about the only accurate diagnosis *is thru
> necropsy*
> Oh, and MC, I am with you...
> So *[too]* much misinformation floating around And, I too am at
> *that point* - Seems like people want to believe all that
> garbage. (At a point, even me Having had an FIP epidemic
> w/ my fosters! )
> Much thanks & hugs,
> Patti & her gang [*INCLUDING PUMA  A "MIRACULOUS RECOVERY" *Wasn't *
> aware* that FIP could last this long - on a very, very senior boy!!!
> Now I can stop kicking myself in a$$ *}*
>
>
>
>  --
> See what's free at AOL.com.
>
>



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Lucky Lady

[catatonya]

I'm so sorry, Kelly.  I hope you find out what is going on (if there's anything 
besides a run of horrible luck).
  tonya

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Well, he euthanized Lucky Lady at noon and sent a sample of her liver off for 
testing.  So she's gone too...

  On 6/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In a message 
dated 6/28/07 2:49:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  When a vet says a cat is positive for FIP he is wrong, he may be positive and 
with high titers for the corona viruses that are suspected to cause FIP but 
that doesn't in most cases mean he has FIP. 


  
  THANK YOU, BELINDA
  MY FEELINGS EXACTLY!
  (And, I strongly believe w/ all my heart, that my Puma does not have 
FIP. ) Also, I believe he does have high titers for corona.  He!!, 
I rescued him from a nasty [putting it mildly ] high kill shelter  And, the 
poor 'ole boy didn't even stand a chance!!!  He was immediately put on "Death 
Row" - only because of his seniority!   G.  I'm just so happy I had 
"connections" with the rescue community! [Just wish I still could be able 
to "save" more like my boy.  I have nightmares about all the poor babies that 
face that horrific dilemma..] 
  The toxo diagnosis I do believe.  And, he recovered 101%.  But when I 
"questioned" my vet on the FIP, well, let's just say, deep down, he knew I was 
right about the only accurate diagnosis is thru necropsy
  Oh, and MC, I am with you...
  So [too] much misinformation floating around And, I too am at that 
point - Seems like people want to believe all that garbage. (At 
a point, even me Having had an FIP epidemic w/ my fosters! ) 
  Much thanks & hugs,
  Patti & her gang [INCLUDING PUMA  A "MIRACULOUS RECOVERY" Wasn't aware 
that FIP could last this long - on a very, very senior boy!!!  Now I can stop 
kicking myself in a$$ }
  




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http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! 

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Please help Caroline!

http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline 

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Re: multiple transfusion and steroid

[HIDEYO YAMAMOTO]

  - Original Message - 
  From: HIDEYO YAMAMOTO 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 10:55 PM
  Subject: Fw: multiple transfusion and steroid 






  Hi, when giving multiple transfusions to a cat, is it common to give steroid 
( Injection of dex) and benedryl (sp) prior to transfusion to minize any 
reaction?

Re: Ki is an Angel

[dede hicken]

Thank you Cindy.  It means a lot.

Dede



--- cindy reasoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dede,
> 
> I am so so sorry to hear about Ki.  You are in my
> thoughts.
> 
> Cindy Reasoner
> 
> --- dede hicken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I wish I could say I deliberately did this.  I
> swore
> > I
> > never would.  When these 4 kitens came into foster
> > care, they neded a home for 2 of them...I got to
> > choose.  I picked the 2 tabbies.After I had them 2
> > weeks, I noticed Ki had 2 huge nodes in his neck. 
> > We
> > treated that, and tested him...Surprise.  I was
> > shocked and frightened. I'm not sure I would have
> > volontarity done this.  I have 3 FIV cats.  One of
> > them is diabetic, one has stomatitis.  I have
> > another
> > with severe stomatitis, and one asthmatic.
> > 
> > I go from day to day. Life is a gift.  When I take
> a
> > furkid, it is a commitment for better or worse, in
> > sickness and in health so to speak.  You cn't
> throw
> > them away because they are not pefect.
> > 
> > I have been truly blessed by my fur-family
> > 
> > Dede  (who is sorry for the chit chat)   
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- Susan Dubose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > And thank you.
> > > 
> > > When I lost Serenity, I felt like the floor
> opened
> > > me up and swallowed me.
> > > 
> > > Like I said, I had only had her 5 months, and my
> > vet
> > > and his wife (who have 
> > > several felv+ cats, and Dr. Smith is constantly
> > > doing research, even @ 73 
> > > yrs.) warned me that when she becomes
> symptomatic,
> > > she could go very fast, 
> > > it just depends.
> > > 
> > > I was s glad they were there for me.
> > > 
> > > Felv+, I have been told, can kill a cat so many
> > > different ways...
> > > 
> > > Or, their body can go, but the mind is sharp as
> a
> > > tack.
> > > 
> > > I have a good client that has only had felv+
> cats,
> > > his limit is 3.
> > > 
> > > The reason being, 4 is an unlucky number for
> him,
> > if
> > > he has 3 and gets a 
> > > 4th, one dies really soon afterwards.
> > > 
> > > He is an international pilot for UPS, and has
> been
> > > for 25+ yrs.  (cha 
> > > ching$)
> > > 
> > > He is down to one felv+ cat, and he has "sworn
> > off".
> > > 
> > > Ever seen a very big, macho Texas man cry like a
> > > baby while holding his cat 
> > > @ the vet's?
> > > 
> > > Not pretty.
> > > 
> > > The good thing is, he only has been working 10
> > days
> > > per month (10 days on, 
> > > 20 days off), and when Chairman Meow leaves him,
> > he
> > > plans to work more and 
> > > donate a lot more money.
> > > 
> > > In otherwords, he has been just working his
> > minimum
> > > to be w/ his cats, but 
> > > once they are all gone, he will fly more and of
> > > course, have more money.
> > > 
> > > Right now he is a very big donor, always there
> for
> > > my "project kitties".
> > > 
> > > When he retires in a few years, he really hopes
> to
> > > start a sanctuary, and he 
> > > will have a lot of people to help him.
> > > 
> > > I don't know, I have always said that, it takes
> a
> > > very special purrson to 
> > > have a felv+ cat, unconditional love, also..
> > > 
> > > LOTS of people are even "afraid" of them.
> > > 
> > > I recently had 2 people over on separate
> occasions
> > > that would not even enter 
> > > my felv+ room, they just looked through the
> door.
> > > 
> > > They were really afraid of taking it home to
> their
> > > cats.
> > > 
> > > I understand that it is a very "delicate"
> > > virus
> > > 
> > > I just call them my little "bubble
> > kitties".
> > >  :)...
> > > Susan J. DuBose  >^..^<
> > > www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
> > > www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
> > > www.shadowcats.net
> > >   "As Cleopatra
> > lay
> > > in state,
> > >Faithful Bast
> > at
> > > her side did wait,
> > >Purring
> > welcomes
> > > of soft applause,
> > >Ever guarding
> > > with sharpened claws."
> > > 
> > Trajan
> > > Tennent
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > - Original Message - 
> > > From: "dede hicken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 3:53 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Ki is an Angel
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks Susan.  I know you are right.  One can
> only
> > > take so much exposure to Corona when your immune
> > > system is not so great.  I just don't get why
> some
> > > get
> > > it and some don't.  I suppose if I could answer
> > > that,
> > > I'd get the Pulitzer.
> > > 
> > > I will always wonder, though, if I had isolated
> > him
> > > with a smaller number of catsOh well, I will
> > > never
> > > know.  And here i was worried that he'd infect
> > > someone.  They are so fragile.
> > > 
> > > Sorry about your little one, too.  Ki came to me
> > in
> > > July, too.  He was only 12 wks old.  It just
> t

RE: SNAP test and IFAs

[Melissa Lind]

Hi Laura, 

 

Well, I just had the SNAP test done before I read your post-it was negative.
Ashley was tested in April with ELIZA (neg) and now in July neg. with SNAP,
so I hope these are good signs. I may have an IFA done when she goes back in
10 days for a checkup, but it's $50, and I'm not sure I can afford that
right now. Ashley is just under a year old, we're guessing.

 

The disease I couldn't think of the name before is Feline odontoclastic
resorptive lesions (FORLs). I haven't had much time to research it, but
here's the wikipedia entry if anyone is interested:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feline_odontoclastic_resorptive_lesion

 

If anyone has info or experience with this, would you please send me some
advice? Ashley's disease can't be confirmed without dental x-rays, and my
vet's office doesn't have the right x-ray machines yet, so we're going to
keep an eye on it. If I have to drive further for an x-ray, I will. If you
know of any lists that deal with this specifically, please let me know. I
don't want to add too much OT stuff since it's been such an issue lately. I
know I know, I should move this to the OT list. Maybe I'll just start
checking both lists at work.

 

Melissa

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura Welp
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 4:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: SNAP test and IFAs

 

Hi Melissa,

At the sanctuary where I work, all Felv cats are tested with both SNAP and
IFA tests.  And because of that, we occasionally get a few cats that test
faint positive in the SNAP and negative for the IFA.  Then they go home with
me, because they're kind of in limbo.  That's why I joined this list:  I'd
like to know if anyone else has a bipolar cat, as they call them, and what
to expect regarding life expectancy, etc.  

Anyway, with regard to your cat, I'd go for the IFA test, just to be sure.
It would be good to know your cat is completely negative (and cause for
major congratulations).  Is she a young cat?  Sometimes they seroconvert in
the first 18 months.  It's supposed to be rare, but I've seen it happen.

Laura








  _  

See   what you're getting
into.before you go there 

Re: Birds, also, feliway....

[Susan Dubose]

Hobbs is an orangish tabby, probably more "buff" colored.

Orange tabbies are the best

I did see him 3 times on the 4th.

Maybe he was Liberating himself form under the couch in the cat room.

All I saw was his butt, though, scampering back under the couch when he saw 
me...  :(

He is living under there w/ Foxy Brown (she's the foxiest brown in town).

She is a long furred tortie that was thrown out of a car onto a busy highway 
here in Austin a few years back.

She was rescued by a policeman, but was injured pretty bad.

She has never quite gotten over her fear.

Susan J. DuBose  >^..^<
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  "As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws."
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: Taylor Scobie Humphrey 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 12:15 AM
  Subject: Re: Birds, also, feliway


  Dear Susan:


  What color is your little Hobbs?  He'll probably come around with all the 
love in your house!  He sounds like a really tough little guy!


  "Consciousness is Causal 
   and Physicality is its
   Manifestation."

Re: Birds

[Susan Dubose]

Actaully, my cats write them.

I sare wash dey wod u spillchec dou.


Susan J. DuBose  >^..^<
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  "As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws."
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: Taylor Scobie Humphrey 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 11:22 PM
  Subject: Re: Birds


  Susan, you write absolutely the BEST letters!  So fun!




  "Consciousness is Causal 
   and Physicality is its
   Manifestation."

Re: goodbye.

[Taylor Scobie Humphrey]

Ya know what?  I don't mind repeating things!

"Consciousness is Causal
 and Physicality is its
 Manifestation."


On Jul 1, 2007, at 3:34 PM, Jane Lyons wrote:

I'm not sure what is going on here, but for a new person (me) it is  
very
sad since I've come to rely on this list as a lifeline for my Felv  
positive cat.


I use two vets, one of them well known nationally, and neither of  
them have the
knowledge and experience that you guys (collectively) have of  
Feline Leukemia.
This is a priceless resource, especially for people like myself,  
who come here shell
shocked and need to hear the reality from the "frontline", not  
theory nor statistics.


My little cat, who came from an over burdened colony situation,  
having been thrown
on their porch from a moving car, is so much better and it is  
largely the result of the
information that I got here. Also, I was so grateful to be able to  
express the grief and
fear I initially felt, knowing I was with people who really loved  
their cats, and who would

(hopefully) understand.

It must be difficult repeating the same information over and over  
again, and having to
adjust to a lot of personalities and dysfunction, but if the bottom  
line is helping cats,

your time is not in vain.

I came here four weeks ago with a kitten suffering from giardia,  
stomatitis, very badly
swollen glands, constant sneezing, runny nose, diarrhea  and very  
poor appetite.


I am happy to report we now have formed stools, no swollen glands,  
an occasional sneeze
and wet nose and a ravenous appetite. The stomatitis seems to be  
healed on the bottom
of her mouth, although the top is still red, but not as inflamed as  
it had been. For the first

time in her little life she seems comfortable and very content.

I hope things here can be worked out.  We are very grateful to all  
of you.


Jane (and a much improved MeMe)









On Jul 1, 2007, at 3:36 PM, elizabeth trent wrote:

Maybe when you stop being an air head and an @$$ you will come  
back.  Love ya M.C.


elizabeth in alabama, phelix, antonio, tiffany, lexie, tori,  
shakiti, othello



On 7/1/07, MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: enough.


if you want to talk with me, you know where i am.

MC

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