Re: [Felvtalk] Cat claws
Or they take in a small feral in order to keep her from being eaten by hawks then the person get older/go on meds/become more fragile etc. and runs out of viable options. There are so many variables. On Mar 25, 2011, at 9:59 PM, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: Many older people are on coumidin and that really makes it bad for them to get scratched. Some cats get carried away with their play so you just need to not overstimulate them. You play hard and they will too. And then there are some that don't play much at all. They just want to be petted or sit on your lap all day. Maybe older people should learn as much as possible about their future pets and only adopt gentle ones. We just have to use common sense when dealing with any animal. If they growl or flip their tail back and forth or lay back their ears, that is a sign that they have had enough. Then back off and let them be. Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: On 03-23, Natalie wrote: I don't understand why an old person can't have a cat with claws. Dealing mostly with feral cats, I have never been bitten or scratched - what's the danger, I am 70 yrs old. And as I said, bites are a natural defense for declawed cats! I'm 78 and when you're old your skin is very fragile and thin and you bleed easily... That said - I would NEVER NEVER declaw a cat. We have 15 rescued cats at home and sure we get scratched when they play or knead us, but so what! Put some iodine on the scratches. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle
Don't know about garlic but onions can cause an irreversible anemia in cats and dogs. On Mar 25, 2011, at 10:04 PM, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: I had always been told that yeast along with garlic and onions were not good for cats. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: www.swansonvitamins.com - great source for great prices Brewer's Yeast tablets: http://www.swansonvitamins.com/Search?keyword=Brewers+Yeast+tabletsdoSearch =truentt=n=0ntk=Level1x=44y=12 Nutritional yeast flakes are very nutritious - great in cooking and flavoring! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 9:30 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle MMPG I used to sprinkle brewer's yeast onto the dog and cat food years ago. I think it helped with fleas. But lately (new cats) it isn't accepted as well. When we have movie night we make popcorn, put an olive oil/butter combo on it (trying to reduce the butterfat) then put the brewer's yeast on. Very tasty. This is for us humans, mind you. The cats always try to lick out the bowls, which I discourage because of the fat content. So, if we can find out who makes the tablet form, it might work better. ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle Please: More information on Brewer's yeast on popcorn. This is a new one...type and amount? Brewer's yeast worked wonders for Mai Mai and Allie's (dogs) coats and I know it would be great for Copper and Thomas Cougar and Bob the Dog. Just figuring out how to present it is the issue. I think it would be great for the ferals too. On Mar 24, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Natalie What kind of yeast tablets do you get? My cats always try to lick the popcorn bowl when we're done...we put brewer's yeast on our popcorn. Thanks. ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle Yes, get some vitamin C crystals, and start with a small amount and build up so Amber doesn't get diarrhea. Does she like yogurt? If not, also get some acidophilus/probiotic capsules, and mix powder into food. There are also some chewable vitamins for cats (ours aren't too keen on them) - they do, however, love to chew on yeast tablets as treats! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 5:28 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle I will ask about that when I take her back to the vet. In the meantime, are there any supplements you recommend that I can purchase? Thanks! Jannes From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 4:22:22 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle Vitamin C, B12 - my vet gives injections that we call the cocktailworks wonders! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle What vitamin supplement do you guys recommend? Jannes From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 2:56:44 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle There are blood tests that can be run tooexpensive though. I took Dixie Louise Doodle Katt to be spayed. She had no scar. Apparently scars are becoming harder to see with self-absorbing stitches etc. I was convinced that she had been spayed.not sure why but an angel sat on my shoulder and yelled in my ear. My wonderful vets ran the blood test even though they were very sure I was wasting my money. A couple of weeks later, one called with the results. Either Dixie had been spayed or she was a male. My little darling was all girl. Dixie was apparently a throw-away who came into my life by was of the same pine thicket that brought most of the cats in my life. She was FeLV+ which led me to this wonderful group. All of this is to say, follow your instincts and knowledge of cats before you have her spayed. FYI: I like colostrum (health food stores or the local farm store--cheaper) for those I know are going to have any surgery and try to give it for a good while before. Most of the cats in my life are feral and they have their own thoughts about what they will and will
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat claws
And some apartment buildings require tenants with cats to have them declawed, too! How sad! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:05 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat claws Some nursing homes require cats to be declawed in order to stay with their owners in the nursing home. On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I UNDERSTAND WHAT SOME OF YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT OLD PEOPLE AND THEIR THIN SKINS NOT WANTING TO BE SCRTACHED, BUT WHY WOULD A CAT SCRATCH ANYONE, UNLESS ONE HAS A FERAL CAT THAT'S TERRIFIED WHEN CORNEREDIT'S LIKE PEOPLE DECLAWING THEIR CATS WHEN A BABY COMES ALONG. If the cat hasn't scratched them, why would it scratch the baby - besides, it's better to be scratched than bitten anytime! Years ago, neighbors adopted a baby and had their two 4-yr old cats declawed, worrying about scratches, although the cats never scratched them. When baby arrived, one of the cats bit the baby in the hand - seriously (never, ever having attempted to bite the neighbors). The baby didn't even provoke the cat - it was just lying on the floor. Both cats were euthanized the next day. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:00 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat claws Many older people are on coumidin and that really makes it bad for them to get scratched. Some cats get carried away with their play so you just need to not overstimulate them. You play hard and they will too. And then there are some that don't play much at all. They just want to be petted or sit on your lap all day. Maybe older people should learn as much as possible about their future pets and only adopt gentle ones. We just have to use common sense when dealing with any animal. If they growl or flip their tail back and forth or lay back their ears, that is a sign that they have had enough. Then back off and let them be. Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: On 03-23, Natalie wrote: I don't understand why an old person can't have a cat with claws. Dealing mostly with feral cats, I have never been bitten or scratched - what's the danger, I am 70 yrs old. And as I said, bites are a natural defense for declawed cats! I'm 78 and when you're old your skin is very fragile and thin and you bleed easily... That said - I would NEVER NEVER declaw a cat. We have 15 rescued cats at home and sure we get scratched when they play or knead us, but so what! Put some iodine on the scratches. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can't complain about it, that they can't fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle
Yes, I've heard that onions and garlic are not good for the cat. Yeast has been advised to reduce fleas. Guess the fleas don't like the vit. B or smell of the yeast. I've never had a cat try to eat onions/garlic, but I've had them try to eat the yeast. And the popcorn, which I doubt is good for them. ~B. - Original Message - From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle Don't know about garlic but onions can cause an irreversible anemia in cats and dogs. On Mar 25, 2011, at 10:04 PM, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: I had always been told that yeast along with garlic and onions were not good for cats. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: www.swansonvitamins.com - great source for great prices Brewer's Yeast tablets: http://www.swansonvitamins.com/Search?keyword=Brewers+Yeast+tabletsdoSearch =truentt=n=0ntk=Level1x=44y=12 Nutritional yeast flakes are very nutritious - great in cooking and flavoring! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 9:30 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle MMPG I used to sprinkle brewer's yeast onto the dog and cat food years ago. I think it helped with fleas. But lately (new cats) it isn't accepted as well. When we have movie night we make popcorn, put an olive oil/butter combo on it (trying to reduce the butterfat) then put the brewer's yeast on. Very tasty. This is for us humans, mind you. The cats always try to lick out the bowls, which I discourage because of the fat content. So, if we can find out who makes the tablet form, it might work better. ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle Please: More information on Brewer's yeast on popcorn. This is a new one...type and amount? Brewer's yeast worked wonders for Mai Mai and Allie's (dogs) coats and I know it would be great for Copper and Thomas Cougar and Bob the Dog. Just figuring out how to present it is the issue. I think it would be great for the ferals too. On Mar 24, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Natalie What kind of yeast tablets do you get? My cats always try to lick the popcorn bowl when we're done...we put brewer's yeast on our popcorn. Thanks. ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle Yes, get some vitamin C crystals, and start with a small amount and build up so Amber doesn't get diarrhea. Does she like yogurt? If not, also get some acidophilus/probiotic capsules, and mix powder into food. There are also some chewable vitamins for cats (ours aren't too keen on them) - they do, however, love to chew on yeast tablets as treats! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 5:28 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle I will ask about that when I take her back to the vet. In the meantime, are there any supplements you recommend that I can purchase? Thanks! Jannes From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 4:22:22 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle Vitamin C, B12 - my vet gives injections that we call the cocktailworks wonders! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle What vitamin supplement do you guys recommend? Jannes From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 2:56:44 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle There are blood tests that can be run tooexpensive though. I took Dixie Louise Doodle Katt to be spayed. She had no scar. Apparently scars are becoming harder to see with self-absorbing stitches etc. I was convinced that she had been spayed.not sure why but an angel sat on my shoulder and yelled in my ear. My wonderful vets ran the blood test even though they were very sure I was wasting my money. A couple of weeks later, one called with the results. Either Dixie had been spayed or she was a male. My little darling was all girl. Dixie was apparently a throw-away who came into my life by was of the same pine thicket that