Re: [Felvtalk] Cat claws

2011-03-26 Thread MaiMaiPG
Or they take in a small feral in order to keep her from being eaten by  
hawks then the person get older/go on meds/become more fragile etc.  
and runs out of viable options.  There are so many variables.
On Mar 25, 2011, at 9:59 PM, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net 
 wrote:


Many older people are on coumidin and that really makes it bad for  
them to get scratched.  Some cats get carried away with their play  
so you just need to not overstimulate them.  You play hard and they  
will too.  And then there are some that don't play much at all.   
They just want to be petted or sit on your lap all day.
Maybe older people should learn as much as possible about their  
future pets and only adopt gentle ones.  We just have to use  
common sense when dealing with any animal.  If they growl or flip  
their tail back and forth or lay back their ears, that is a sign  
that they have had enough.  Then back off and let them be.

 Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote:

On 03-23, Natalie wrote:


I don't understand why an old person can't have a cat with claws.
Dealing mostly with feral cats, I have never been bitten or
scratched - what's the danger, I am 70 yrs old.  And as I said,
bites are a natural defense for declawed cats!


I'm 78 and when you're old your skin is very fragile and thin
and you bleed easily... That said - I would NEVER NEVER
declaw a cat.  We have 15 rescued cats at home and sure we get
scratched when they play or knead us, but so what!  Put some
iodine on the scratches.

Lorrie


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Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-26 Thread MaiMaiPG
Don't know about garlic but onions can cause an irreversible anemia in  
cats and dogs.
On Mar 25, 2011, at 10:04 PM, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net 
 wrote:


I had always been told that yeast along with garlic and onions were  
not good for cats.

 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

www.swansonvitamins.com - great source for great prices
Brewer's Yeast tablets:
http://www.swansonvitamins.com/Search?keyword=Brewers+Yeast+tabletsdoSearch
=truentt=n=0ntk=Level1x=44y=12
Nutritional yeast flakes are very nutritious - great in cooking and
flavoring!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie  
Hogue

Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 9:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

MMPG
I used to sprinkle brewer's yeast onto the dog and cat food years  
ago.  I
think it helped with fleas.  But lately (new cats) it isn't  
accepted as

well.
When we have movie night we make popcorn, put an olive oil/butter  
combo on


it (trying to reduce the butterfat) then put the brewer's yeast  
on.  Very
tasty.  This is for us humans, mind you.  The cats always try to  
lick out
the bowls, which I discourage because of the fat content.  So, if  
we can

find out who makes the tablet form, it might work better.
~Bonnie
- Original Message -
From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle


Please:  More information on Brewer's yeast on popcorn.  This is a  
new
one...type and amount?  Brewer's yeast worked wonders for Mai Mai  
and
Allie's (dogs) coats and I know it would be great for Copper and   
Thomas

Cougar and Bob the Dog.  Just figuring out how to present it is  the
issue.  I think it would be great for the ferals too.
On Mar 24, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:


Natalie
What kind of yeast tablets do you get?
My cats always try to lick the popcorn bowl when we're done...we  
put

brewer's yeast on our popcorn.
Thanks.
~Bonnie
- Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle


Yes, get some vitamin C crystals, and start with a small amount  
and

build up
so Amber doesn't get diarrhea.  Does she like yogurt?  If not,  
also  get



some
acidophilus/probiotic capsules, and mix powder into food. There  
are

also
some chewable vitamins for cats (ours aren't too keen on them)  
-  they

do,
however, love to chew on yeast tablets as treats!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of  
Jannes  Taylor

Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 5:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

I will ask about that when I take her back to the vet. In the   
meantime,



are

there any supplements you recommend that I can purchase? Thanks!
Jannes





From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 4:22:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

Vitamin C, B12 - my vet gives injections that we call the
cocktailworks wonders!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of  
Jannes  Taylor

Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

What vitamin supplement do you guys recommend?
Jannes





From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 2:56:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

There are blood tests that can be run tooexpensive though.  
I  took

Dixie

Louise Doodle Katt to be spayed. She had no scar. Apparently  
scars  are

becoming harder to see with self-absorbing stitches etc. I was
convinced
that
she had been spayed.not sure why but an angel sat on my   
shoulder

and
yelled
in my ear. My wonderful vets ran the blood test even though  
they  were

very
sure
I was wasting my money. A couple of weeks later, one called with  
the

results.
Either Dixie had been spayed or she was a male. My little  
darling  was

all
girl. Dixie was apparently a throw-away who came into my life  
by  was of



the

same pine thicket that brought most of the cats in my life. She  
was

FeLV+
which
led me to this wonderful group.

All of this is to say, follow your instincts and knowledge of cats
before
you
have her spayed. FYI: I like colostrum (health food stores or  
the  local

farm
store--cheaper) for those I know are going to have any surgery  
and  try

to
give
it for a good while before. Most of the cats in my life are  
feral  and

they
have
their own thoughts about what they will and will 

Re: [Felvtalk] Cat claws

2011-03-26 Thread Natalie
And some apartment buildings require tenants with cats to have them
declawed, too!  How sad!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:05 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat claws

Some nursing homes require cats to be declawed in order to stay with their
owners in the nursing home.

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 I UNDERSTAND WHAT SOME OF YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT OLD PEOPLE AND THEIR THIN
 SKINS NOT WANTING TO BE SCRTACHED, BUT WHY WOULD A CAT SCRATCH ANYONE,
 UNLESS ONE HAS A FERAL CAT THAT'S TERRIFIED WHEN CORNEREDIT'S LIKE
 PEOPLE DECLAWING THEIR CATS WHEN A BABY COMES ALONG.  If the cat hasn't
 scratched them, why would it scratch the baby - besides, it's better to be
 scratched than bitten anytime!  Years ago, neighbors adopted a baby and
had
 their two 4-yr old cats declawed, worrying about scratches, although the
 cats never scratched them.  When baby arrived, one of the cats bit the
baby
 in the hand - seriously (never, ever having attempted to bite the
 neighbors). The baby didn't even provoke the cat - it was just lying on
the
 floor.  Both cats were euthanized the next day.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
 dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:00 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat claws

 Many older people are on coumidin and that really makes it bad for them to
 get scratched.  Some cats get carried away with their play so you just
need
 to not overstimulate them.  You play hard and they will too.  And then
 there
 are some that don't play much at all.  They just want to be petted or sit
 on
 your lap all day.
 Maybe older people should learn as much as possible about their future
pets
 and only adopt gentle ones.  We just have to use common sense when
 dealing
 with any animal.  If they growl or flip their tail back and forth or lay
 back their ears, that is a sign that they have had enough.  Then back off
 and let them be.
  Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote:
  On 03-23, Natalie wrote:
 
   I don't understand why an old person can't have a cat with claws.
   Dealing mostly with feral cats, I have never been bitten or
   scratched - what's the danger, I am 70 yrs old.  And as I said,
   bites are a natural defense for declawed cats!
 
  I'm 78 and when you're old your skin is very fragile and thin
  and you bleed easily... That said - I would NEVER NEVER
  declaw a cat.  We have 15 rescued cats at home and sure we get
  scratched when they play or knead us, but so what!  Put some
  iodine on the scratches.
 
  Lorrie
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-26 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Yes, I've heard that onions and garlic are not good for the cat.  Yeast has 
been advised to reduce fleas.  Guess the fleas don't like the vit. B or 
smell of the yeast.  I've never had a cat try to eat onions/garlic, but I've 
had them try to eat the yeast.  And the popcorn, which I doubt is good for 
them.

~B.
- Original Message - 
From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle


Don't know about garlic but onions can cause an irreversible anemia in 
cats and dogs.
On Mar 25, 2011, at 10:04 PM, dlg...@windstream.net 
dlg...@windstream.net

 wrote:

I had always been told that yeast along with garlic and onions were  not 
good for cats.

 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

www.swansonvitamins.com - great source for great prices
Brewer's Yeast tablets:
http://www.swansonvitamins.com/Search?keyword=Brewers+Yeast+tabletsdoSearch
=truentt=n=0ntk=Level1x=44y=12
Nutritional yeast flakes are very nutritious - great in cooking and
flavoring!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie  Hogue
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 9:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

MMPG
I used to sprinkle brewer's yeast onto the dog and cat food years  ago. 
I

think it helped with fleas.  But lately (new cats) it isn't  accepted as
well.
When we have movie night we make popcorn, put an olive oil/butter 
combo on


it (trying to reduce the butterfat) then put the brewer's yeast  on. 
Very
tasty.  This is for us humans, mind you.  The cats always try to  lick 
out
the bowls, which I discourage because of the fat content.  So, if  we 
can

find out who makes the tablet form, it might work better.
~Bonnie
- Original Message -
From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle



Please:  More information on Brewer's yeast on popcorn.  This is a  new
one...type and amount?  Brewer's yeast worked wonders for Mai Mai  and
Allie's (dogs) coats and I know it would be great for Copper and 
Thomas

Cougar and Bob the Dog.  Just figuring out how to present it is  the
issue.  I think it would be great for the ferals too.
On Mar 24, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:


Natalie
What kind of yeast tablets do you get?
My cats always try to lick the popcorn bowl when we're done...we  put
brewer's yeast on our popcorn.
Thanks.
~Bonnie
- Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle



Yes, get some vitamin C crystals, and start with a small amount  and
build up
so Amber doesn't get diarrhea.  Does she like yogurt?  If not,  also 
get



some
acidophilus/probiotic capsules, and mix powder into food. There  are
also
some chewable vitamins for cats (ours aren't too keen on them)  - 
they

do,
however, love to chew on yeast tablets as treats!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of  Jannes 
Taylor

Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 5:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

I will ask about that when I take her back to the vet. In the 
meantime,



are

there any supplements you recommend that I can purchase? Thanks!
Jannes





From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 4:22:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

Vitamin C, B12 - my vet gives injections that we call the
cocktailworks wonders!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of  Jannes 
Taylor

Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

What vitamin supplement do you guys recommend?
Jannes





From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 2:56:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

There are blood tests that can be run tooexpensive though.  I 
took

Dixie

Louise Doodle Katt to be spayed. She had no scar. Apparently  scars 
are

becoming harder to see with self-absorbing stitches etc. I was
convinced
that
she had been spayed.not sure why but an angel sat on my 
shoulder

and
yelled
in my ear. My wonderful vets ran the blood test even though  they 
were

very
sure
I was wasting my money. A couple of weeks later, one called with  the
results.
Either Dixie had been spayed or she was a male. My little  darling 
was

all
girl. Dixie was apparently a throw-away who came into my life  by 
was of



the

same pine thicket that