[Felvtalk] FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

[Amani Oakley]

Sherri

The yellow discolouration takes a bit of time to ebb away. The more important 
indicator of how she is doing is that she is more steady on her feet and has an 
interest in eating. She has clearly improved, so don’t let the yellow colour 
concern you. It should fade away on its own.

After tonight, if she is as good as you saw her today, I would take her home. 
She needs to eat, and needs to be nudged to eat as much as possible. That will 
help get rid of some of the bilirubin as some of it is excreted in feces. It 
will also improve her outlook on life if she is eating again.

Later on, you can follow up on the glucose. Glucose doesn’t just rise above the 
normal reference range with diabetes. Animals and people will have an elevated 
glucose when the body is in crisis or in pain. Retest her at a time when she is 
feeling better. For the potassium (which is the “K” number) it is just barely 
low. I would not leave her at the vet’s or give her more fluids just for that.

However, I would ask for her bloodwork to be retested after the fluids. 
Ideally, you should start to see the bilirubin, GGT and ALT dropping. The 
potassium may also now be in the reference range, and let’s see what the 
glucose looks like.

One key thing I was taught was that you treat the patient, not the numbers. I 
follow the lab numbers closely, but the more important thing, is how is she 
doing. She is improving and hopefully will continue to do so. I think that a 
retest of her blood work should confirm that.

Take her home as soon as possible and give her some TLC!

Was the can of salmon a can of catfood salmon or human food salmon? If catfood, 
I understand that there have been incidents of liver failure because of an 
additive/preservative called ethoxyquin which is added to fish or fish meal. 
(Fish meal can also sometimes be contaminated with mycotoxins which might also 
have a deleterious effect on the liver.) That might also explain why the 
jaundice seemed to come on so suddenly after ingestion. Do a Google search on 
the brand name and see if others have reported a problem.

Amani


From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherri 
Godschalk
Sent: December-13-16 8:26 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

Amani,
I noticed the glucose right away. I had a diabetic dog that required insulin 
twice a day and so that number stuck out. I believe these tests were before the 
IV. I didn’t look at the bag closely that they were giving her but I think it 
was Dextrose. I will ask him about that tomorrow.  With this jaundice…is the 
fact that it really hasn’t gotten any better an indicator that she isn’t any 
better? Or does that take a while to return to normal? I will also ask him 
about the potassium. Is that the K number?

She had an interest in a can of salmon that I opened on Saturday. So I sat 
aside a little for her and fed it to her bits at a time for a couple of days 
before this all happened. I told the vet about it. She never had salmon before. 
He didn’t think that was anything.

The doxy clearly made a huge difference. Around the house here, she just came 
alive after the first week of being on it. That tip, and the doc finally 
agreeing to prescribe it…saved her life I believe. Thank you so much.

I don’t think they are giving her one other than that bag of fluid. He really 
didn’t want to do anything and I actually begged him to hospitalize her and 
give her a chance. I am sure he thought her blood tests would show the very 
worst.

Thanks for the feedback on these test results Amani. I feel a little hopeful 
tonight. She is never very comfortable at the Vet’s office. She is looking for 
a way to escape normally or someplace to hide. Once she gets home she is fine. 
She hates her cage. But when I sat her on the floor to let her try to walk a 
little she headed straight for it. I think she would like to come home.

From: Felvtalk 
>
 on behalf of Amani Oakley 
>
Reply-To: >
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 7:47 PM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

Sherri

The results aren’t that bad at all. I have seen Total Billirubins (TBili) in 
the thousands and the babies/humans and animals survived. The liver enzymes are 
barely budged. They are  wee bit up but again, I have seen them in the 
thousands with no effect on the cats. There may have been a gallbladder 
blockage or something like that, (though I don’t know if cats get these). This 
may have been washed out by the fluids she is getting.

Your explanation regarding adding the Doxycycline 

Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

[Sherri Godschalk]

Amani,
I noticed the glucose right away. I had a diabetic dog that required insulin
twice a day and so that number stuck out. I believe these tests were before
the IV. I didn’t look at the bag closely that they were giving her but I
think it was Dextrose. I will ask him about that tomorrow.  With this
jaundice…is the fact that it really hasn’t gotten any better an indicator
that she isn’t any better? Or does that take a while to return to normal? I
will also ask him about the potassium. Is that the K number?

She had an interest in a can of salmon that I opened on Saturday. So I sat
aside a little for her and fed it to her bits at a time for a couple of days
before this all happened. I told the vet about it. She never had salmon
before. He didn’t think that was anything.

The doxy clearly made a huge difference. Around the house here, she just
came alive after the first week of being on it. That tip, and the doc
finally agreeing to prescribe it…saved her life I believe. Thank you so
much.

I don’t think they are giving her one other than that bag of fluid. He
really didn’t want to do anything and I actually begged him to hospitalize
her and give her a chance. I am sure he thought her blood tests would show
the very worst.

Thanks for the feedback on these test results Amani. I feel a little hopeful
tonight. She is never very comfortable at the Vet’s office. She is looking
for a way to escape normally or someplace to hide. Once she gets home she is
fine. She hates her cage. But when I sat her on the floor to let her try to
walk a little she headed straight for it. I think she would like to come
home.

From:  Felvtalk  on behalf of Amani
Oakley 
Reply-To:  
Date:  Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 7:47 PM
To:  "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Subject:  Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

Sherri
 
The results aren’t that bad at all. I have seen Total Billirubins (TBili) in
the thousands and the babies/humans and animals survived. The liver enzymes
are barely budged. They are  wee bit up but again, I have seen them in the
thousands with no effect on the cats. There may have been a gallbladder
blockage or something like that, (though I don’t know if cats get these).
This may have been washed out by the fluids she is getting.
 
Your explanation regarding adding the Doxycycline explains everything. What
I have repeatedly said in this forum is that you need the combination of
Winstrol to up the cell production and Doxycycline to retard the
reproduction of the viruses. You can see the difference in the results once
the Doxycycline was added at the end of October.
 
I am hoping that Bogey is out of the woods now. I don’t think that either
the Doxy or the Winstrol are the culprit here. The Winstrol is likely
getting the liver enzymes to increase a bit but only a very small bit. The
ALT and GGT are the only ones a bit elevated, but again, I have seen these
in the thousands – especially the ALT.
 
I do notice however that her potassium is a bit low (I hope they were giving
her some potassium in the fluids) and her glucose is a bit high. Did they
give her dextrose?
 
Amani
 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Sherri Godschalk
Sent: December-13-16 7:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat
 

She was really out of it earlier today. Couldn’t stand on her own. Very
confused. Dr told me once a cat goes yellow like that they don’t normally
survive. The tech that was in there with me today said she couldn’t believe
the test results weren’t worse than the were. Said the TBIL was the bad
thing. I haven’t looked it up yet.

 

We added Doxy on 10/24. Two weeks on and then a month off. So she was in to
her second round of it. No other changes. Feeding her anything and
everything she would eat. The doc didn’t want to see her again until after
the second round of Doxy. We were just about done with it.

 

I have bounced a lot of email here too. Might be copying and pasting from
Excel that is making the emails run big.

 

Anyway…here ya go.

 
Scale12-Dec
GLU74-159178
BUN16-3623
CREA08-2.41.3
BUN/CREA18
PHOS3.1-7.54.5
CA7.8-11.39.8
TP5.7-8.98.7
ALB2.2-4.03.1
GLOB2.8-5.15.6
ALB/GLB0.6
ALT12-130237
ALKP14-11139
GGT0-48
TBIL.0-.927.9
CHOL65-225170
AMYL500-1500842
LIPA100-1400255
NA150-165158
K3.5-5.83.4
NA/K46
CL112-129114
OSM CALC318
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

[Amani Oakley]

Sherri

The results aren’t that bad at all. I have seen Total Billirubins (TBili) in 
the thousands and the babies/humans and animals survived. The liver enzymes are 
barely budged. They are  wee bit up but again, I have seen them in the 
thousands with no effect on the cats. There may have been a gallbladder 
blockage or something like that, (though I don’t know if cats get these). This 
may have been washed out by the fluids she is getting.

Your explanation regarding adding the Doxycycline explains everything. What I 
have repeatedly said in this forum is that you need the combination of Winstrol 
to up the cell production and Doxycycline to retard the reproduction of the 
viruses. You can see the difference in the results once the Doxycycline was 
added at the end of October.

I am hoping that Bogey is out of the woods now. I don’t think that either the 
Doxy or the Winstrol are the culprit here. The Winstrol is likely getting the 
liver enzymes to increase a bit but only a very small bit. The ALT and GGT are 
the only ones a bit elevated, but again, I have seen these in the thousands – 
especially the ALT.

I do notice however that her potassium is a bit low (I hope they were giving 
her some potassium in the fluids) and her glucose is a bit high. Did they give 
her dextrose?

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherri 
Godschalk
Sent: December-13-16 7:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

She was really out of it earlier today. Couldn’t stand on her own. Very 
confused. Dr told me once a cat goes yellow like that they don’t normally 
survive. The tech that was in there with me today said she couldn’t believe the 
test results weren’t worse than the were. Said the TBIL was the bad thing. I 
haven’t looked it up yet.

We added Doxy on 10/24. Two weeks on and then a month off. So she was in to her 
second round of it. No other changes. Feeding her anything and everything she 
would eat. The doc didn’t want to see her again until after the second round of 
Doxy. We were just about done with it.

I have bounced a lot of email here too. Might be copying and pasting from Excel 
that is making the emails run big.

Anyway…here ya go.


Scale

12-Dec

GLU

74-159

178

BUN

16-36

23

CREA

08-2.4

1.3

BUN/CREA

18

PHOS

3.1-7.5

4.5

CA

7.8-11.3

9.8

TP

5.7-8.9

8.7

ALB

2.2-4.0

3.1

GLOB

2.8-5.1

5.6

ALB/GLB

0.6

ALT

12-130

237

ALKP

14-111

39

GGT

0-4

8

TBIL

.0-.9

27.9

CHOL

65-225

170

AMYL

500-1500

842

LIPA

100-1400

255

NA

150-165

158

K

3.5-5.8

3.4

NA/K

46

CL

112-129

114

OSM CALC

318


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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

[Sherri Godschalk]

She was really out of it earlier today. Couldn’t stand on her own. Very
confused. Dr told me once a cat goes yellow like that they don’t normally
survive. The tech that was in there with me today said she couldn’t believe
the test results weren’t worse than the were. Said the TBIL was the bad
thing. I haven’t looked it up yet.

We added Doxy on 10/24. Two weeks on and then a month off. So she was in to
her second round of it. No other changes. Feeding her anything and
everything she would eat. The doc didn’t want to see her again until after
the second round of Doxy. We were just about done with it.

I have bounced a lot of email here too. Might be copying and pasting from
Excel that is making the emails run big.

Anyway…here ya go.

  
  Scale 12-Dec  
 GLU 74-159 178  
 BUN 16-36 23  
 CREA 08-2.4 1.3  
 BUN/CREA  18  
 PHOS 3.1-7.5 4.5  
 CA 7.8-11.3 9.8  
 TP 5.7-8.9 8.7  
 ALB 2.2-4.0 3.1  
 GLOB 2.8-5.1 5.6  
 ALB/GLB  0.6  
 ALT 12-130 237  
 ALKP 14-111 39  
 GGT 0-4 8  
 TBIL .0-.9 27.9  
 CHOL 65-225 170  
 AMYL 500-1500 842 
 LIPA 100-1400 255 
 NA 150-165 158  
 K 3.5-5.8 3.4  
 NA/K  46  
 CL 112-129 114  
 OSM CALC  318 

From:  Felvtalk  on behalf of Amani
Oakley 
Reply-To:  
Date:  Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 7:11 PM
To:  "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Subject:  Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

Sherri
 
Good to hear there has been an improvement. I wanted to say that to you in
my previous email, because I was surprised you were saying you thought she
wouldn’t recover. Usually, there is a pretty rapid turn-around as the
bilirubin and enzymes drop. It is very good news that she is eating a bit as
well. However, I am of course not there, and you can see her and I can’t. My
feeling though is that her since her underlying results were showing such an
improvement in haematocrit, red cells, haemoglobin, and platelets, then I
felt she would come through the jaundice okay.
 
The lab results you have sent me are pretty puzzling though. There seems to
have been a trend between August 24 to October 26 and then some real changes
in virtually all cell parameters seen in the December 12th blood work. Any
other medication changes during the end of October to December 12th?
 
Amani
 
P.S. – sorry but I had to chop off your email to get this one to go through.
I had it returned to me THREE TIMES as being to big, even though the last
time I sent it, it was just my email and your previous one, with the rest
chopped off. I keep asking if the moderators can address this limited size
thing, but there’s been no change.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

[Amani Oakley]

Sherri

Good to hear there has been an improvement. I wanted to say that to you in my 
previous email, because I was surprised you were saying you thought she 
wouldn’t recover. Usually, there is a pretty rapid turn-around as the bilirubin 
and enzymes drop. It is very good news that she is eating a bit as well. 
However, I am of course not there, and you can see her and I can’t. My feeling 
though is that her since her underlying results were showing such an 
improvement in haematocrit, red cells, haemoglobin, and platelets, then I felt 
she would come through the jaundice okay.

The lab results you have sent me are pretty puzzling though. There seems to 
have been a trend between August 24 to October 26 and then some real changes in 
virtually all cell parameters seen in the December 12th blood work. Any other 
medication changes during the end of October to December 12th?

Amani

P.S. – sorry but I had to chop off your email to get this one to go through. I 
had it returned to me THREE TIMES as being to big, even though the last time I 
sent it, it was just my email and your previous one, with the rest chopped off. 
I keep asking if the moderators can address this limited size thing, but 
there’s been no change.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

[Sherri Godschalk]

Yes…here are her comparison results. I just visited with her and she appears
better this evening. She seemed less out of it. Walking better. Ate a
little. Even the guy who cleans the ICU there said he saw much improvement.
Hoping and praying. Amani they gave me two sheets of test results this time.
It’s the one that shows the enzyme levels and such. I will post that in a
bit.

  
  Range 12-Dec 26-Oct 30-Sep 16-Sep 24-Aug
 RBC 6.54 12.2 4.99 2.54 2.9 2.57 2.43
 HCT 30.3 52.3 35.1 14.8 17.9 15.3 15.3
 HGB 9.8 16.2 10.4 5.2 6.2 5.5 5.3
 MCV 35.9 53.1 70.3 58.3 61.7 59.1 62.6
 MCH 11.8 17.3 20.8 20.5 21.4 21.4 21.8
 MCHC 28.1 35.8 29.6 35.1 34.6 36.2 34.9
 RDW 15 27 22.2 24.5 25.2 23.7 23.9
 RETIC 3 50 27.4 89.9 82.1 78.1 61.5
 WBC 2.87 17.02 8.59 13.05 12.01 14.47 13.46
 NEU 1.48 10.29 5.42 3.97 3.96 4.07 4.03
 LYM 0.92 6.88 2.21 7.8 6.81 8.83 7.75
 MONO 0.05 0.67 0.87 1.16 1.17 1.52 1.58
 EOS 0.17 1.57 0.08 0.11 0.06 0.004 0.01
 BASO 0.01 0.26 0.01 0.01 0.01 0.01 0
 PLT 151 800 122 28 53 88 50



From:  Felvtalk  on behalf of Amani
Oakley 
Reply-To:  
Date:  Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 4:46 PM
To:  "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Subject:  Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

That is very strange indeed. Usually, any jaundice develops rather slowly.
Your description leaves me confused. Have they tested her again to see what
the current values are?
 
I don’t understand the numbers you have posted, by the way. Perhaps they are
in different units than what I am familiar with. I also don’t recognize the
abbreviation you used. If you want more information, please post the results
exactly as you have received them, along with full titles of the tests and
the reference ranges.
 
Amani
 
 
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Sherri Godschalk
Sent: December-13-16 4:38 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat
 

Hi Amani. She is hospitalized. I am going up to see her again as soon as I
get out of here. She hasn't had the Winstrol now since Sunday at noon. The
jaundice was sudden. She was wobbly Sunday night but still eating. I made an
appointment for her right away but I couldn't get in for 5 hours. I gave her
a little tuna water and I swear within 15 minutes her ears had turned
yellow. So I took her right in. She is very sick. I can't imagine her
pulling through this.

 

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Amani Oakley 
wrote:

The jaundice is probably a side effect of the Winstrol. Is she still on it?
If so, discontinue. You don’t need it right now anyway with her blood counts
doing so well. From what I saw in my cats, any of them whose liver enzymes
increased, would show a quick and steady drop of the enzymes once the
Winstrol was continued. After a rest period, I could start them on it again.
However, my cats didn’t actually show any jaundice, though their liver
enzymes (ALT, ALP, AST, Total Bilirubin, Direct Bilirubin) might increase.
 
Amani
 
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Sherri Godschalk
Sent: December-13-16 4:27 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

 

I just wanted you all to know that my cat Bogey made an unbelievable
recovery in her counts in the last 6 weeks, only to become jaundice suddenly
yesterday and is not doing well at all.

 

Her platelets had jumped to 112 from the lower 20s. Her RBC was up to 4.9
and it had been half of that. The amazing jump had been in her hematocrit
was al the way up to 38 from 15. She had been feeling so good and then
everything went south in less than a day.

 

Her enzymes are at 29. And the scale at the DR says the high end of the
scale is .9. She turned yellow and I got her to the vet within the hour. She
has been on IV trying to flush things out for about 28 hours. She is eating.
But is very disoriented. I believe she is less wobbly today but they are not
retesting her blood until tomorrow. I have had 2 visits with her and she
knows my voice.

 

My doctor isn't willing to do anything else for her if she does't improve
tonight. With her normalized blood test now, I am wondering if maybe they
should look for a bile obstruction or something. She has no fever, normal
bowel movements. Her urine is dark.

 

I was just wondering if I should be trying to find another vet if this one
will not even ultrasound her. Suggestions?

 

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

[Amani Oakley]

That is very strange indeed. Usually, any jaundice develops rather slowly. Your 
description leaves me confused. Have they tested her again to see what the 
current values are?

I don’t understand the numbers you have posted, by the way. Perhaps they are in 
different units than what I am familiar with. I also don’t recognize the 
abbreviation you used. If you want more information, please post the results 
exactly as you have received them, along with full titles of the tests and the 
reference ranges.

Amani


From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherri 
Godschalk
Sent: December-13-16 4:38 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

Hi Amani. She is hospitalized. I am going up to see her again as soon as I get 
out of here. She hasn't had the Winstrol now since Sunday at noon. The jaundice 
was sudden. She was wobbly Sunday night but still eating. I made an appointment 
for her right away but I couldn't get in for 5 hours. I gave her a little tuna 
water and I swear within 15 minutes her ears had turned yellow. So I took her 
right in. She is very sick. I can't imagine her pulling through this.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Amani Oakley 
> wrote:
The jaundice is probably a side effect of the Winstrol. Is she still on it? If 
so, discontinue. You don’t need it right now anyway with her blood counts doing 
so well. From what I saw in my cats, any of them whose liver enzymes increased, 
would show a quick and steady drop of the enzymes once the Winstrol was 
continued. After a rest period, I could start them on it again. However, my 
cats didn’t actually show any jaundice, though their liver enzymes (ALT, ALP, 
AST, Total Bilirubin, Direct Bilirubin) might increase.

Amani

From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Sherri Godschalk
Sent: December-13-16 4:27 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

I just wanted you all to know that my cat Bogey made an unbelievable recovery 
in her counts in the last 6 weeks, only to become jaundice suddenly yesterday 
and is not doing well at all.

Her platelets had jumped to 112 from the lower 20s. Her RBC was up to 4.9 and 
it had been half of that. The amazing jump had been in her hematocrit was al 
the way up to 38 from 15. She had been feeling so good and then everything went 
south in less than a day.

Her enzymes are at 29. And the scale at the DR says the high end of the scale 
is .9. She turned yellow and I got her to the vet within the hour. She has been 
on IV trying to flush things out for about 28 hours. She is eating. But is very 
disoriented. I believe she is less wobbly today but they are not retesting her 
blood until tomorrow. I have had 2 visits with her and she knows my voice.

My doctor isn't willing to do anything else for her if she does't improve 
tonight. With her normalized blood test now, I am wondering if maybe they 
should look for a bile obstruction or something. She has no fever, normal bowel 
movements. Her urine is dark.

I was just wondering if I should be trying to find another vet if this one will 
not even ultrasound her. Suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

[Sherri Godschalk]

Hi Amani. She is hospitalized. I am going up to see her again as soon as I
get out of here. She hasn't had the Winstrol now since Sunday at noon. The
jaundice was sudden. She was wobbly Sunday night but still eating. I made
an appointment for her right away but I couldn't get in for 5 hours. I gave
her a little tuna water and I swear within 15 minutes her ears had turned
yellow. So I took her right in. She is very sick. I can't imagine her
pulling through this.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Amani Oakley 
wrote:

> The jaundice is probably a side effect of the Winstrol. Is she still on
> it? If so, discontinue. You don’t need it right now anyway with her blood
> counts doing so well. From what I saw in my cats, any of them whose liver
> enzymes increased, would show a quick and steady drop of the enzymes once
> the Winstrol was continued. After a rest period, I could start them on it
> again. However, my cats didn’t actually show any jaundice, though their
> liver enzymes (ALT, ALP, AST, Total Bilirubin, Direct Bilirubin) might
> increase.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Sherri Godschalk
> *Sent:* December-13-16 4:27 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat
>
>
>
> I just wanted you all to know that my cat Bogey made an unbelievable
> recovery in her counts in the last 6 weeks, only to become jaundice
> suddenly yesterday and is not doing well at all.
>
>
>
> Her platelets had jumped to 112 from the lower 20s. Her RBC was up to 4.9
> and it had been half of that. The amazing jump had been in her hematocrit
> was al the way up to 38 from 15. She had been feeling so good and then
> everything went south in less than a day.
>
>
>
> Her enzymes are at 29. And the scale at the DR says the high end of the
> scale is .9. She turned yellow and I got her to the vet within the hour.
> She has been on IV trying to flush things out for about 28 hours. She is
> eating. But is very disoriented. I believe she is less wobbly today but
> they are not retesting her blood until tomorrow. I have had 2 visits with
> her and she knows my voice.
>
>
>
> My doctor isn't willing to do anything else for her if she does't improve
> tonight. With her normalized blood test now, I am wondering if maybe they
> should look for a bile obstruction or something. She has no fever, normal
> bowel movements. Her urine is dark.
>
>
>
> I was just wondering if I should be trying to find another vet if this one
> will not even ultrasound her. Suggestions?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

[Amani Oakley]

The jaundice is probably a side effect of the Winstrol. Is she still on it? If 
so, discontinue. You don’t need it right now anyway with her blood counts doing 
so well. From what I saw in my cats, any of them whose liver enzymes increased, 
would show a quick and steady drop of the enzymes once the Winstrol was 
continued. After a rest period, I could start them on it again. However, my 
cats didn’t actually show any jaundice, though their liver enzymes (ALT, ALP, 
AST, Total Bilirubin, Direct Bilirubin) might increase.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherri 
Godschalk
Sent: December-13-16 4:27 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

I just wanted you all to know that my cat Bogey made an unbelievable recovery 
in her counts in the last 6 weeks, only to become jaundice suddenly yesterday 
and is not doing well at all.

Her platelets had jumped to 112 from the lower 20s. Her RBC was up to 4.9 and 
it had been half of that. The amazing jump had been in her hematocrit was al 
the way up to 38 from 15. She had been feeling so good and then everything went 
south in less than a day.

Her enzymes are at 29. And the scale at the DR says the high end of the scale 
is .9. She turned yellow and I got her to the vet within the hour. She has been 
on IV trying to flush things out for about 28 hours. She is eating. But is very 
disoriented. I believe she is less wobbly today but they are not retesting her 
blood until tomorrow. I have had 2 visits with her and she knows my voice.

My doctor isn't willing to do anything else for her if she does't improve 
tonight. With her normalized blood test now, I am wondering if maybe they 
should look for a bile obstruction or something. She has no fever, normal bowel 
movements. Her urine is dark.

I was just wondering if I should be trying to find another vet if this one will 
not even ultrasound her. Suggestions?

Thanks in advance.
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[Felvtalk] Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

[Sherri Godschalk]

I just wanted you all to know that my cat Bogey made an unbelievable
recovery in her counts in the last 6 weeks, only to become jaundice
suddenly yesterday and is not doing well at all.

Her platelets had jumped to 112 from the lower 20s. Her RBC was up to 4.9
and it had been half of that. The amazing jump had been in her hematocrit
was al the way up to 38 from 15. She had been feeling so good and then
everything went south in less than a day.

Her enzymes are at 29. And the scale at the DR says the high end of the
scale is .9. She turned yellow and I got her to the vet within the hour.
She has been on IV trying to flush things out for about 28 hours. She is
eating. But is very disoriented. I believe she is less wobbly today but
they are not retesting her blood until tomorrow. I have had 2 visits with
her and she knows my voice.

My doctor isn't willing to do anything else for her if she does't improve
tonight. With her normalized blood test now, I am wondering if maybe they
should look for a bile obstruction or something. She has no fever, normal
bowel movements. Her urine is dark.

I was just wondering if I should be trying to find another vet if this one
will not even ultrasound her. Suggestions?

Thanks in advance.
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