Anakin is gone
When I took him to the vet he could not even stand.The vet said most of the medication won't help he's to for gone most take time to work he doesn't time.She said he was not getting enough blood to his heart he has a heart murmur.Shesaid his kidneys were alot smaller.She went totake abit of blood he didn't even move,but she said there was so little blood left in himshe couldn't.She said that the best thingwe could do for him is topts.So we all said it was time,We said our good bye's I stayed with him when she put the needle in he didn't even move.I stayed there patting him tell him how much we love him.It's so hard.Thank you all so much for everything.Anakin iswith all our fur babies thehave past. Love Anita
Re: Please Help! Anakin is very sick
Thank you for all your help everyone has been so great.I think last year sometime someone on the list had used a pet communicator or something.Does anyone know how to find one how much it might cost.Thanks Anita - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 12:13 PM Subject: Re: Please Help! Anakin is very sick 1. Kelp is a seaweed and spirulina is a single cell green food like algae. Both are available at health food stores, either in powder or in capsules that can be opened. 2. The only person I know of on this list who has had a cat recover from anemia long-term is someone (i can not remember who) whose cat was cured of anemia through 6 months of Depomedrol shots (a steroid). Her cat was killing his own red blood cells, which is an auto-immune problem that my cat Simon got also while he was on chemotherapy.In this woman's case, the steroids reversed it completely. My Simon got soanemic at one point during his cancer that he had trouble breathing and I thought he was dying. I loaded himup on steroids and his hematocrit went back upsome, to about20,for about a month.It then went down to 8 in less than 48 hours andwe could not bring it back up because he would not allow a transfusion and the steroids did not workquickly enough. Actually, someone else may have had a cat whose anemia was caused by Hemobartanella,the blood parasite, and reversed it with doxicycline. Oh, and also Belinda's Jean-Luc had anemia which was controlled for 2 years with Epogen shots. Nina thinks that Paolo's cat Micia (Paolo is no longer on the list) may also have had anemia. She recovered from being close to death with a 5 day dosing of Virbagen Omega feline interferon, available only from Europe and you have to get FDA approval. I would start that process right away if you are interested in trying that. There is an article on the group's web page by a vet who says he has reversed anemia, I think, with Immuno-regulin. I would definitely try that drug if I were you, along with a transfusion if his hematocrit is 13 or lower. Finally, if Anakin has lymphoma in his bone marrow or kidneys, that can cause anemia. That is what caused Simon's anemia. Chemotherapy can help. When the chemo was working for Simon initially, his hematocrit went up from 13 to 33 in just 2 weeks. Michelle In a message dated 3/8/05 3:03:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I got the recipe for the liver shake,but I have never herd of Kelp or Spirulina do you know if I can get that from any store or a special store? I am going to call my vet ask if she will try so of the antibiotics.I am going to change my appointment to tomorrow to see if he is ant better.But today I noticed his glands are swollen again I can feel his bones more.He was eating crunchy on Sunday not as much as normal,but he has not wanted his wet food for about 5 days.I don't know if anyone remembers me talking about Luke the one I lost in 2001 http://www.bemikitties.com/cls/luke.html But Anakin is Grey other then thatit's likethey are the same.My husband thinks it is Luke reincarnated.They were bothborn in March.My husband thinks it's time for Anakin to go he doesn't want him to suffer.It's so hard.Does anyone knowif anyfur babies have recovered from beingAnemic? Anita
Re: Liver shake
I asked at the health food store,he said they were out of kelp but the only spirulina they had in was a big jar of powder that was 48.00 I don't have much money.He asked what I wanted it for I hold him he was very surprised that you could use either in the shake.He said that they are totally different he asked why we use those because the spirulina was an Iron supplement. Anita - Original Message - From: "Sue Feldbusch" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 6:12 PM Subject: Re: Liver shake Spirulina also is called blue algae, I think. If you can't find it under spirulina, it could be under that. Our big grocer has it. Look in the vitamin section of your grocer. For sure, a helath place will have it. Ask if you can't find it. From: "Gloria B. Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Liver shakeDate: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 20:08:28 -0600You should be able to find it at the health food store. I've used kelp before with my cats, but not spirulina. Think they're both good nutrients. Maybe somebody else knows...!GloriaAt 07:22 PM 3/8/2005, you wrote:I got the stuff but I couldn't get the Kelp or spirulina.What is the for does anyone know? should I just go ahead give it to him anyway.Thanks Anita
Re: Please Help! Anakin is very sick
The vet said it costs all she thinks at this time, she can't see putting him through that when it probably won't do much.I went got a cat of KMR mothers supplement to give to him,because it has so many good vitamins stuff in it.He is drinking itI am hoping it might help.Thanks for all the emails of suggestions,love support. Anita - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 4:20 PM Subject: RE: Please Help! Anakin is very sick Does that mean the transfusion will not help either? Will immnogloublin not help?? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Monday, March 07, 2005 5:14 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Please Help! Anakin is very sick Anita, No ideas, but Anakin is in my thoughts and prayers. tonyacatstevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anakin is very sick.All he does is sleep.I checked his gums tong are white.I am taking him to the vet tomorrow,but they said his bone marrow is not producing blood cells.They said there was not much they can do.If there is anything I can try or if you have any suggestion please let me know.Thanks so much Anita
Re: New To This
I am sorry to here your little ones are positive.From all the people I have talked to I have not herd of any cat giving it another I do have 2 positive 4 negative.A cat can have FeLV but test negative,if it is not in there blood stream they will test negative.If a cat is not well or is under stress then it can then show.But there can also be false positives.I am not an expert but I have done alot of research talked to lots of people vets.I have lost cats have some that are positive 1 cat is now 6 years old.I have to brothers that are almost a year old That were about 7 days when they were left on my porch,1 tests negative 1 positive.I hope this helps,If you need anything just send an email.I have got alot of help support for this group they are great people with big hearts. Love Anita Kitties - Original Message - From: Mrs. Kulak To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 9:55 AM Subject: New To This I have just found out that my two kittens are positive for feline leukemia. I adopted a kitten from an animal shelter in Wisconsin that originally tested negative. But since then he has become positive and has infected one of my older cats, who in the meantime has become quite sick. It is devastating to me. BUT, I am trying to remain optimistic. Therefore, I am trying to find out all I can. First of all, I have three other cats, all of which tested negative. I have to keep them separated now from my two "sick" ones. Even though the little kitten I adopted in November has the virus, he acts totally normal. The older kitten which is actually a year old now, is sick. I've been giving the older one 3cc of Retrovir in the morning and in the evening. I don't know what the side effects are to cats. I only received the side effects for humans when I picked up the medicine at the pharmacy. Is there any place you can recommend to me to find out more about the side effects to cats? The side effects to humans don't look so good, so I'm a bit worried about this medicine. Second, as I have stated, I have to keep my cats all separated. This is EXTREMELY hard. We were one big happy family. All of my cats got along, cuddled, took care of the little ones, played together, cleaned each other, and now I've had to tear up the family. The older ones in the basement are wondering what's going on. I go down there to sit with them and they just stare at me. It's kind of creepy. But they do thrive on the attention oncewe get past the awkward moment. The kittens I keep upstairs so that I can monitor them. The littlest one is constantly crying at the door that separates them all. I've even caught the older one clawing at the door today. It's really hard. Therefore, I was wondering, if after the incubation period is over and the other older cats get retested and if they still prove to be negative, then get their shots, could I put the family back together again? Or is it better for me to find a new home for the ill cats? I will die if I have to lose them. They are my babies. This will be the third and fourth kittens I have lost in three years. But I need to do what's best. I'd rather take care of the ill kittens myself than have the cost burden and the stress go to someone else. I know I have a home for the three older cats providing they stay negative. I just really want to try to keep the family together. So, how effective are the shots? Third and final, the animal shelter that I received the kitten from is trying to deny that it was their kitten. In a sense, they told me that my vet tested incorrectly. Now I know that the shelter is trying to do a good thing, but I feel they have a responsibility to tell the other people who have adopted kittens or cats from the same group and time period. They aren't listening to me. I've researched about the incubation period and that maybe they should have held onto all the cats and kittens for a few more weeks because it could sit dormant. They kept insisting that the kitten tested negative; and I told them I know that, but..." We got no where. Now what do I do? All my other cats have been tested twice a year for everything. (I take them to the vet for even the slightest sniffle - I'm a little protective). I need to know what do I do to get them to contact the other people. I'm concerned that there are more Feline Leukemia cats out there, more than that, I am sure of it and I think those people have a right to know. So, what do I do? I was thinking about taking out a full page ad in the Milwaukee Journal or contacting the Better Business Bureau. I need to do something. Sorry I took so much time, but I have many issues and/or concerns. I don't know what to do. I've been reading a lot on the internet, but I can't find the answer to these few things. I
